The Financial Review has the results of a large-sample poll from RedBridge Group, the second pollster to take the field post-election after Roy Morgan. The results are not far off Roy Morgan’s: Labor on 37%, compared with 34.6% at the election; the Coalition on 31%, compared with 31.8%; and the Greens on 11%, compared with 12.2%. Labor is credited with a 55.5-44.5 lead on two-party preferred, compared with an election result of 55.2-44.8 – lower than I might have expected based on preference flows from the recent election, but perhaps explicable by One Nation accounting for a larger share of “others”. Breakdowns are more balanced than you might expect with regard to gender, but results by age tell a familiar story of the Coalition vote descending from 44% among the 65+ cohort to 19% among 18-to-34, the Greens rising from 2% to 24%, and Labor fairly consistent across the board. The poll was conducted “late June” from a sample of 4036.
Another item of federally relating polling emerges from a report by Alexandra Smith of the Sydney Morning Herald on debate within the Liberal Party over whether to challenge independent Nicolette Boele’s 26-vote win in Bradfield in court. Local branch presidents are calling on the party to put up the money, but others consider this “a risk financially and politically”. The report cites polling conducted in mid-June for Climate 200 which suggests Boele would likely win a by-election resulting from a legal challenge, with her primary vote up from 27.0% at the election to 33.2%, with Gisele Kapterian’s 37.3% comparing with an election result of 38.0%.
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Beansays:
Saturday, July 5, 2025 at 4:51 pm
@Nick
Agreed. Absolutely bleak that the UK has arrived at Orbanism on its own. All because people are fed up with daily images of bodybags sized for children, and people lined up for food, aurrounded by barbed wire and the “guards” using it as a firing range. I am praying that the house of lords sees the dark precedent this is and quashes it.
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The reason, Western democracies are turning to banning protests, resorting to police brutality and labelling Protests groups as terrorist organisations, is because they are terrified on being labelled as ‘anti-semitic’ by Israeli government.
Netanyahu cannot believe his luck. Using that phrase he is bending Western democracies to his needs at will.
Not a single Western democracy applied sanctions on Israeli government for their actions in Gaza.
Although we can bang on about Western democracies as much as we can but the thing is Middle eastern countries did not raise a finger to the plight of Gazans. ME countries should be ashamed of themselves.
All Team Albo are trying to do is assuage the disgust many Australians have with the grotesque US regime in the context of our strategic alliance.
…and to use PM Curtin in his speech is tawdry and insulting.
It’s very different circumstances.
Cheers Nath
D&M
“The transition has to be fought through the demand side, by rapidly increasing renewables.”
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It is very hard concept for many to understand!
Rex Douglassays:
Saturday, July 5, 2025 at 5:10 pm
…and to use PM Curtin in his speech is tawdry and insulting.
It’s very different circumstances.
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I find a known Labor hater judging when a Labor PM should be allowed to reference a former Labor PM in his speech. Really over the top insulting behaviour.
Albo: Defends Australia’s interests
Whiney anti-labor shills: cope and seethe
https://sh.reddit.com/r/friendlyjordies/comments/1ls3vro/pm_albanese_fires_back_at_andrew_clennells_repeat/
One positive development Climate Action Tracker thought was worth highlighting is:
“Australia’s AUD 22.7bn (USD 14.9bn) Future Made in Australia plan sets out a vision for Australia to capitalise on its substantial renewable energy and critical mineral resources and to attract investment in clean industries. The updated 2024 National Hydrogen Strategy specifically focuses on renewable-based hydrogen production, rather than fossil fuel-derived hydrogen. If successfully implemented, these plans could provide a pathway out of reliance on coal and gas exports.”
https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/australia/
Information on Net Zero policies:
https://www.dcceew.gov.au/climate-change/emissions-reduction/net-zero
Albo defenders are as loyal and staunch as Trump’s MAGA army.
Rex Douglas, it is YOU who is ‘tawdry and disgusting’. Not that anyone cares what you think about the PM.
Rex Douglassays:
Saturday, July 5, 2025 at 5:27 pm
Albo defenders are as loyal and staunch as Trump’s MAGA army.
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Except you’re the one trying to protect your beneficial tax treatment of your multi-million nest egg. Which puts you in the same boat as MAGA millionaires and their Trump tax breaks. Also like MAGA you’re very weak on Putin’s imperialistic ambitions.
European sanctions against Israel?
After a tortuous 7 year journey, the Irish Government will finally take the Occupied Territories bill to the Dáil in the next few weeks.
The bill will make trade with illegal West Bank settlements criminal with a fine of 250k€
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupied_Territories_Bill
Yep, like I said, Rex Douglas, it is YOU who is ‘tawdry and disgusting’ with your likening of Labor supporters to MAGA supporters of Trump.
Gee it must be gnawing away at what passes for your soul to not only have had the politicians you have touted here for years,fail dismally at the last election, only to see Labor succeed and come after your $3 Million+ of Super.
Lol.
OC
Would that include indirect trade, similar to our trade of weapons components to Israel via the US …?
Integrity: he has none.
No better than Dutton, Littleproud and Canavan really. United Anti-Labor Party droogs the lot of them.
Rex
I don’t know but I suspect not. Criticism of the bill is that it is mainly for show and targets about 500k€ of goods. The original bill included the export of services- the biggest part of Ireland’s economy but that has disappeared in the current draft
The UK has put one more of its Astute class submarines in for a “mid life refit”, which will take it out of action for 18 months. The RN now only has one fully operational SSN able to go to sea.
https://www.navylookout.com/royal-navy-submarine-hms-astute-first-a-class-boat-to-undergo-mid-life-refit/
RN submarines have been chalking up a really terrible record for unreliability in recent years. They have regularly been down to one or two subs available. The promised deployment of an Astute to Perth by 2027 is now unlikely to happen.
Whilst I don’t think SSN AUKUS will ever happen, Australia building “five to eight(?)” of these logistical nightmares, combined with our limited maintenance facilities and staff, would be a disaster for the RAN. Despite all the money spent, we might end up with fewer subs at sea than with the Collins class.
Most political commentators focus on the political aspects of AUKUS but the technical aspects of AUKUS are still a mess. In warships and subs, as with cars, if you want reliability don’t buy from UK or USA.
Stoogey Lurker,
I actually see the federal government’s plan to not only mine the Rare Earth minerals that we have but to foster the refining and manufacturing industries associated with them as one of the best ways to counteract China’s plan to leverage its own RE industries against the rest of the world and especially the Western democracies. This policy from the 2022 election shows the PM’S foresight.
The guy is constantly underestimated.
Omar Comin’ @ #562 Saturday, July 5th, 2025 – 5:22 pm
This has been THE most enjoyable post-election period in my lifetime, precisely because the anti Labor stooges are not coping at all. It’s been 2 months since the election and still they seethe and whine with confected grievances.
Meanwhile Labor continues to enjoy high levels of voter support.
I agree C@t about the underestimation of Albo. Industry policy wrt rare earths is worthwhile but the processing and refining of minerals has never been our strength. To do it successfully, ironically, we need the Chinese to help us. The rest of the western world can’t; they like us outsourced it to the Chinese decades ago.
Fess, the Guardian just posted a buyers remorse article regarding voters who reinstalled Labor with record numbers. Labor haters really clutching at straws, parliament hasn’t even resumed.
Socrates, Saturday, July 5, 2025 at 1:11 pm:
Yep, with you 100% there. The US under Trump is taking a big huge dump on the UN charter, by colluding with Netanyahu and by giving Putin a free hand. They are proving they don’t give a toss about Article 2(4) of the UN Charter. They’ll give us as much help as they calculate it is in their interest to give us, no more. And that might very well be an “up yours”.
Whoever the dickhead was that set fire to the synagogue in East Melbourne last night needs to be locked up.
Rex
“ Albo defenders are as loyal and staunch as Trump’s MAGA army.”
Ridiculous. If that is true why do AE and myself argue with Cat about AUKUS all the time? Labor supporters have loyalty to a set of principles but not blind loyalty to an individual. They are not like MAGA.
Sorry my IT skills are lacking but here is a portrait of one of our chief political whingers.
https://x.com/TomRed43/status/1941266542442016987/photo/1
I dont bother reading any Rex BS……Blah blah blah bad Labor blah blah blah bad PM blah blah blah
Socrates
I consider you as a sensible independent.
Earlwood on the other hand… well best I say nothing about that.
Mostly Interested:
Oooh I missed that Guardian article.
This feels reminiscent of the unhinging among Coalition voters when Labor formed minority government in 2010.
Soc
@Douglas & Milko at 6:33pm
Aw gosh that’s a brilliant picture.
Re Douglas and Milko @5:01 PM.
” Trying to cut the supply side will just lead to changes in government to those who will not limit the supply side
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Exactly.
And yet certain posters claiming to be Greens come here day in day out condemning Labor for not doing just that.
The only result would be permanent Coalition Government. I susoect that this is the result they want.
Also agreed Ven, but I will note that it was Lebanon and Yemen that actually stood up for Palestine, two of the ‘weakest’ countries in the ME. Although Yemen managed to beat the US and still holds power over the red sea. Iran can’t really get involved even though they have weakened Israel’s defenses and proven that they can hit back, even if some analysts will say it was strategically ineffective. MBS in Saudi Arabia probably wants a deal with Israel but its too late for that. He may be a king at the head of an absolute monarchy but there are many powerful clans in Saudi Arabia. With the promise of a normalisation and the Abraham Accords it could have possibly happened but the political stain of the genocide is too offensive to allow that to happen now. The UAE couldn’t give less of a shit and they never will, they are content to just run their own slave state and peddle influence with the US, UK, Europe and Australia with their enormous wealth.
Douglas and Milko
Thanks you are a good man, using your skills for the common good 🙂
Rex
I was once a Labor party member and have an uncle who was a Labor party MP.
I couldn’t stand the factionalism when I was in so got out. I try to be balanced but am not independent. I still support Labor party principles and its goal of improving the lives or the working class.
Good evening all. Go Lions!
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sheep-do-not-judge-their-shepherd-sermon-after-child-abuse-conviction-shocks-victims-20250701-p5mbq3.html
Well, he’s certainly right about that. Just look at everything evangelicals in the US have excused Trump for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=191kow6kLUM&ab_channel=RealTimewithBillMaher
Soc:
D&M is a woman!
Steve777says:
Saturday, July 5, 2025 at 3:53 pm
While Australia should be phasing out the burning off fossil fuels here, replacing it with renewable sources, it makes no sense to unilaterally shut down major exports as our Green colleagues are urging.
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Is that you Andrew Bolt ?
You are like 2 peas in a pod.
So Albo “We defend Israel’s right to defend themselves”
Same Albo “We are cutting of every means for Israel to defend themselves”
This is the sort of moronic thinking you get when you let the Greens run things.
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Confessionssays:
Saturday, July 5, 2025 at 6:50 pm
A senior Sydney priest has warned his followers “sheep do not judge their shepherd” in a sermon about his divided church after a veteran cleric was found guilty of child sexual abuse days earlier – shocking victims and experts.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sheep-do-not-judge-their-shepherd-sermon-after-child-abuse-conviction-shocks-victims-20250701-p5mbq3.html
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The reason “sheep do not judge their shepherd” is because they are in fear of wolf and shepherd will protect them.
Since the shepherd knows that “sheep do not judge their shepherd” , he will ate them in end like it is happening in USA
Confession – Perhaps the lesson is one should not be a sheep. No wonder why the Catholic church is losing members by the droves.
Herald Sun 05/07
Former Victorian Labor minister Tim Holding has tied the knot with his fiance Felicity Selkirk in the chapel of the 237-year-old, 105-room, Louis XVI style chateau the couple has been painstakingly restoring in rural France.
The couple wed in a stunning, romantic and intimate ceremony at their Chateau de Purnon on June 21.
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Improving the lives of the working class can be very lucrative Socrates.
It’s all a con.
Taylormadesays:
Saturday, July 5, 2025 at 7:03 pm
Herald Sun 05/07
Former Victorian Labor minister Tim Holding has tied the knot with his fiance Felicity Selkirk in the chapel of the 237-year-old, 105-room, Louis XVI style chateau the couple has been painstakingly restoring in rural France.
The couple wed in a stunning, romantic and intimate ceremony at their Chateau de Purnon on June 21.
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Improving the lives of the working class can be very lucrative Socrates.
It’s all a con.
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Except his French Chateau cost around $1.19 million AUD. So around the cost of an average eastern suburb Melbourne house. Obviously lots of time and money goes into repairing them though.
Collingwood v Carlton what?
Dane Swan
@swandane
This just flat out isn’t a rivalry anymore and hasn’t been for years. What id call it is bullying
Steve777 @ #581 Saturday, July 5th, 2025 – 6:40 pm
Of course, it is just possible that what they really want is genuine climate action, and not the fossil-fueled nonsense that we currently get from both major parties.
Or is that beyond your comprehension?
Douglas and Milko
Doh! You are a good woman. (Looking for an embarrassed emoji).
Confessions thank you.
A senior Sydney priest has warned his followers “sheep do not judge their shepherd” in a sermon about his divided church after a veteran cleric was found guilty of child sexual abuse days earlier.
A senior Sydney priest has warned his followers “Shepherds should not f#@k their sheep” in a sermon about his divided church after a veteran cleric was found guilty of child sexual abuse days earlier.
There fixed it!
OC
In Rugby league
Canberra raiders are in no.1 position followed by Canterbury bulldogs, Melbourne storm and NZ Warriors
I am really surprised about the NRL top 4 positions. Any insight into why?
Jennifer Rubin of the Contrarian rereading The Declaration of Independence.
“Desperate for some inspiration, I decided to reread the entire Declaration of Independence. We know it as an aspirational document (“We hold these truths…”). We understand it as a repudiation of tyranny (“Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.”). It is both those things, but it is also a compendium of complaints, a description of an autocrat’s offenses against a free people. And that was the part I found strangely relevant to our times.
The signers railed about exclusionary immigration policies that hurt the colonies (“He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither”). They inveighed against barriers to trade (“cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world”). And they condemned imposing “Taxes on us without our Consent,” which, if we remember that unilaterally imposed tariffs are a consumer tax, also sounds familiar. Tyrants, then and now, seek to dominate and micromanage commerce to the detriment of ordinary people seeking a better life.
And notice the common problem, then and now, when a tyrant attempts to corrupt the rule of law by seeking to intimidate and threaten members of the judiciary (“He has obstructed the Administration of Justice…. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices”); seeks to impair due process (“depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury”); and even ships people out of the country for punishment (“Transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences”). The tyrant playbook has not changed much in nearly 250 years.”
https://contrarian.substack.com/p/check-out-the-declarations-list-of
Paul Krugman looks at some of the reasons why so-called “advanced countries” have had histories of incurring large amounts of debt without losing investor confidence.
“Look, for example, at the debt history of the UK, which ran up huge debts relative to GDP during the Napoleonic Wars and the two world wars without losing investor confidence…
Why are advanced countries normally able to pull this off?
First, they’re normally run by serious people, who don’t try to govern on the basis of crackpot economic doctrines and will take responsible action if necessary to stabilize their nations’ debt.
Second, they’re competent: They have strong administrative states that can collect a lot of tax revenue if necessary. The United States collects 25 percent of GDP in taxes, but could collect much more if it chose. Some European nations collect more than 40 percent.
These factors normally lead investors to give advanced countries the benefit of the doubt, even when they run big deficits. That is, investors assume that the people running these countries will take action to rein in debt once the emergency justifying deficits ends, and that they will be able to take effective action because they have effective governance.
Republicans are using transparently dishonest accounting to hide just how much they’re adding to debt — hey, we aren’t really cutting taxes, just extending tax cuts that were scheduled to expire. And they’re also claiming that the OBBBA’s tax cuts (the ones that they say aren’t really happening) will generate a miraculous surge in economic growth. I’ve had my differences with the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, but it’s an honest, highly competent think tank, and its (appropriately) incredulous analysis of Trump officials’ economic projections is titled “CEA’s fantastical economic assumptions”
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https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/trumps-big-beautiful-debt-bomb
Maybe the US under Trump isn’t a lost cause. Then again, Trump may just be “tapping Zelenskyy along”:
“Trump says Putin ‘wants to keep killing people,’ signals US may send Patriots to Ukraine”
https://kyivindependent.com/trump-says-putin-wants-to-keep-killing-people-signals-us-may-send-patriots-to-ukraine-06-2025/
Okay, so he’s publicly acknowledged that Putin doesn’t want peace, but just wants Ukrainians killed. Good start. Now, what will he do about it, in terms of supporting Ukrainians’ efforts to defend themselves?
This is where US allies such as ourselves need to exert some pressure in our meetings with our US counterparts. I hope that is what we are doing.
Anddrew_Earlwoodsays:
Thursday, July 3, 2025 at 9:42 am
I thought you had given up, T D’merde.
The good news is that Usman Khawaja is a lock for the home Ashes series.
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A_E I don’t know if I would call him a lock, but it’s worrying that he may still be in the mix because the cupboard is bare, which is a dilemma of Cricket Australia’s own making by subjugating Shield under white ball cricket (where there is less sideways movement and the pitches tend to be more batting friendly).
I like Usman. I thought he was hard done by being dropped by Langer (presumably because he had the guts to speak out against Langer’s ways in that fly on the wall doco on Amazon Prime). Plus, as an aside, Usman was coached and managed by a hero of mine; Bill Anderson, former topline bat in Sydney Grade cricket in the 1970s and South Sydney 1st Grade coach in the early 80s, plus my PE teacher at Gymea High School when he was coaching Souths (heaven for a Souths supporter).
But I think Usman’s time is up. He is seeing the ball later, which is why he spends most of his time playing shots with both feet off the ground getting squared up to a moving ball.
Finally, Bill Anderson topped the Sydney 1st Grade averages in 1973, facing the likes of Jeff Thomsen and Len Pascoe without a helmet! (he was considered unlucky not to be selected for NSW). But he never mentioned any of this to his students.