Roy Morgan returned to the field this week with an eye-catching headline result of 53-47 in favour of the Coalition on two-party preferred, but this turned out to be entirely down to an unorthodox set of respondent-allocated preference flows, with the accompanying release relating that Labor’s share from the Greens was down from 85% to 55% from the previous poll. A previous election preferences measure was not provided on this occasion, but such a result assuredly have come in at 50-50. Labor were in fact up three-and-a-half points on the pre-Christmas poll to 31%, with the Coalition down half to 40.5%, the Greens down half to 12% and One Nation down one-and-a-half to 3.5%. The poll was conducted December 30 to January 5 from a sample of 1446.
Also out this week from RedBridge Group was a follow-up report from its recent MRP survey relating to ideological positioning on the customary left-to-right scale. On a ten-point left-to-right scale, 51% rated Labor at very points on the left, 18% had them in the centre and 20% on the right, whereas the Liberals were put on the right by 62%, in the centre by 14% and on the left by 13%. Thirty-one per cent placed themselves in the centre, 23% on the left and 33% on the right. Forty-two per cent either way felt the Liberal Party to be to their right and Labor to be to their left, with 43% rating the Liberal Party’s position similar to their own compared with 39% for Labor.
pied piper @ #2149 Wednesday, January 15th, 2025 – 11:14 pm
Giselle Kapterian, former STAFFER to Julie Bishop much? Sussan Ley would very much like Giselle to succeed over Warren. I guess that’s okay with you. 😐
I’ll be bringing you all a story about the internals at The Guardian Australia tomorrow. Will be wild! 🙂
pied pipersays:
Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 11:14 pm
Seat of thornlie in Perth for labor state gov has been given to a McGowan staffer.
Meta lifting fact checking is only on USA.
Unemployment stats tomorrow makes no difference interest rates are staying where they are.
Coconuts in the tennis is putting up a fight.
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So the Colleen Egan is just a staffer? I thought she was a Walkley Award winning journalist and former Assistant Editor at The West Australian newspaper. Though bit you want like PP is she is a women.
“Meta lifting fact checking is only on USA.”
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Was this a statement from Meta in the USA?
If so it was not fact checked, how can we believe it?
… and Walkey Award-winning journalist, of Noel Crichton-Browne “screw your tits off” fame.
To me the most important issue at the next Federal election will be schools and education
Because society is under attack and the only way to repel that attack is thru education
Noting Nuckleer Pete is attacking education in an attempt to influence what our children are taught
In the first instance they need to be taught to think – not to be blindly led by culture war protagonists with Australian flags behind them
“The hard right Liberal powerbroker was a deeply disliked, divisive figure in his own party. But he had been able to hold on to power through several challenges until Liberal party opponents obtained an apprehended violence order showing he had bashed his wife, Esther. The grim details surfaced in this newspaper and spread through the press.
At that time, Crichton-Browne’s reputation was also being battered by news that he’d told a journalist at the 1995 Liberal Party state conference in Perth that he planned to “screw her tits off”. Crichton-Browne’s ghost lingers on, but after that he was out of the party.”
https://www.smh.com.au/national/private-lives-public-scandal-20050903-gdlzzk.html
What happened to the chair sniffer?
Last seen truffle hunting?
You can’t contract out of your legal responsibilities under legislation. That’s why Rugby Australia ended up publicly apologising to Folau and settling with him for millions.
C@tmomma says:
Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 9:41 pm
For murder – yes.
Good on you Peter C and Queen c@t
Pair of snobs, both of you.
Birds of a feather.
So the overnight cash rate is 4.35%. Good-o.
I’ll also be sure to remind the homeless subjects that they need to understand the benefits of opportunity which all of us get. Obviously their fault they don’t take advantage of such opportunities. Yep, their fault. Makes it easier thinking that way Peter ‘C’, doesn’t it.
Snob.
pied pipersays:
Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 11:43 pm
What happened to the chair sniffer?
Last seen truffle hunting?
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He had been a LNP opposition leader. So hard to get a real job without life experience.
I think pigs are far more qualified to do that though.
Possibly he could be a deodorant product tester?
Queen Elizabeth II was unaware of Soviet spy in palace, show declassified files
Antony Blunt, who worked at Buckingham Palace as Surveyor of Queen’s pictures, had confessed in 1964 that, as he had passed a secret information to Soviet agents,
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/uk-news/story/queen-elizabeth-ii-unaware-soviet-spy-anthony-blunt-reveal-declassified-files-2665240-2025-01-15
“Blunt, who worked at Buckingham Palace as Surveyor of the Queens Pictures, was under suspicion for years before he finally confessed in 1964 that, as a senior MI5 officer during World War II, he had passed secret information to Soviet agents.
In one of the newly released files, an MI5 officer notes that Blunt said he felt profound relief at unburdening himself. In return for information he provided, Blunt was allowed to keep his job, his knighthood and his social standing and the queen was apparently kept in the dark.
In 1972, her private secretary, Martin Charteris, told MI5 chief Michael Hanley that the queen did not know and he saw no advantage in telling her about it now; it would only add to her worries and there was nothing that could done about him.
The government decided to tell the monarch in 1973, when Blunt was ill, fearing a media uproar once Blunt died and journalists were able to publish stories without fear of libel suits.
Charteris reported that she took it all very calmly and without surprise, and remembered that he had been under suspicion way back in the early 1950s. Historian Christopher Andrew says in the official history of MI5 that the queen had previously been told about Blunt in general terms.
Blunt was publicly unmasked as a spy by Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in the House of Commons in November 1979. He was finally stripped of his knighthood, but never prosecuted, and died in 1983 at the age of 75.”
Vensays:
Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 11:58 pm
Queen Elizabeth II was unaware of Soviet spy in palace, show declassified files
Antony Blunt, who worked at Buckingham Palace as Surveyor of Queen’s pictures, had confessed in 1964 that, as he had passed a secret information to Soviet agents,
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/uk-news/story/queen-elizabeth-ii-unaware-soviet-spy-anthony-blunt-reveal-declassified-files-2665240-2025-01-15
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According to this article from India. He was her art advisor. So what bolshoi art works did he get them to purchase, Red Poles?
Though i note Blue Poles is worth an estimated $500 million now. Instead of sacking Whitlam she should of made him her art advisor.
Rainman on Wed at 10.12 pm
“Russia warned them for some time not to do this. And then they crossed the border.”
NATO didn’t cross the border. They broke a historic promise given to Gorbachev in early 1990, then crossed Putin’s red-line, as enunciated with anger at a meeting after the NATO conference in Bucharest in April 2008. They did this without any plan for what to do when things went wrong.
Putin did not have a plan for what to do went his invasion went wrong. He didn’t listen to sceptics. But he improvised brutally, from a domestic position of structural strength and utter barbarism.
You are correct re the Korean war, but there was another key factor. Before MacArthur invaded the North, and thereby brought China into the war, with huge consequences for China-US relations, the Indians, as the leaders of the Non-Aligned Movement, tried to negotiate a cease-fire, only to be ignored by the US.
The best book on the Korean War is by Rosemary Foot, titled The Wrong War. See:
https://www.thenile.com.au/books/rosemary-foot/the-wrong-war/9781501772061?srsltid=AfmBOopfMocRYftpcnJLptDSpbtldFeeDaBOWLUbAH0khsY-ZMgEwq5W
Peter C,
Most homeless people usually have some sort of mental health or personality issues.
When they come up against some grubby real estate rental agent, they get fobbed off real quick.
Ie. They get denied a rental., & the real estate agents pick it real quick.
So they are left with gov’t housing, which is getting shut down year by year.
So the next step is they sleep in a car, and if they don’t have a car, they pitch a tent in a park.
And it’s a nightmare for them. Kids torment them, neighbours complain about them and the police shine fob lights at them at all hours of the night.
But yes, blame them for their plight. The overnight cash rate and accumulated superannuation balances are more important, to you.
Good for you, Mr Snob. Enjoy.
“ NATO didn’t cross the border”
I was actually referring to Russia crossing the border into Ukraine.
Jesus Christ, can you please grow up?
You want less bullying on here against views you don’t like? Good. A way to start that might be to revise your own behaviours because I’ve seen you both prodding people before and you aren’t innocent either.
Tired of people thinking that, if their views are opposite of the majority on here or opposite of a few notable posters, they can say whatever they want about other posters but, in return, should be shielded from any criticism or pushback.
Frankly, the whole discourse here sucks nowadays. There’s always someone just wanting to have an abusive argument and it goes both ways.
Same as China crossing the border into Korea.
“NATO didn’t cross the border. They broke a historic promise given to Gorbachev in early 1990, then crossed Putin’s red-line, as enunciated with anger at a meeting after the NATO conference in Bucharest in April 2008. They did this without any plan for what to do when things went wrong.”
While Russia clearly broke the Budapest Memorandum. This memorandum also says Russia must respect the sovereignty of Ukraine. The right to make any alliance, including joining NATO, is the right of a sovereign nation i would of thought.
Wat you have to try but I suspect you will be disappointed.
Entropy,
It’s obviously Russia’s fault that they have put their border so close to so many U.S. military/NATO bases.
FUBARsays:
Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 11:44 pm
Entropy says:
Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 9:39 pm
FUBARsays:
Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 8:37 pm
The treatment of Israel Folau by Rugby Australia was religious discrimination but you all supported it.
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Except he had signed a contract that set out a specific code of conduct.
You can’t contract out of your legal responsibilities under legislation. That’s why Rugby Australia ended up publicly apologising to Folau and settling with him for millions.
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Yet religious institutes are exempt from these laws and can discriminate against hiring gay people. Yet sporting codes can’t include in their contracts a code of conduct that sets out that gay hate speech is not acceptable. The whole system is just bias towards religious nutters and their vile hate filled beliefs.
Rainman at 12.22 and 12.24 am
OK, fine. What will be highlighted by historians about Putin’s war is how good the US intelligence was, and yet, by contrast, how bad the US strategic planning was. The US knew of Putin’s plans to invade, better than most of the Russian Generals, but they had no plan for how to respond.
That is astounding given the amount of public money in the US that is spent on war planning.
What has occurred is a catastrophe for Ukraine and a disaster for Russia but far from surprising.
Yet the US made two big errors of interpretation regarding Putin’s war. First, believing Ukraine would be over-run. Liberal analysts in Moscow, such as Andrei Kortunov, were on record as saying an attempt to occupy Kyiv would probably not succeed. It was a close run thing for a short time around Hostomel airport. See:
https://warontherocks.com/2023/08/the-battle-of-hostomel-airport-a-key-moment-in-russias-defeat-in-kyiv/
Second, in April 2022 the US (and the UK) presumed that more war would weaken Putin. Yet, at one point even Michael McFaul (US Ambassador to Moscow under Obama) said this was already Putin’s fifth war. The implication should have been that he would use the war to his advantage.
Zelenskyy gave the impression of not believing the US warnings about Putin’s invasion. However, he probably believing the warnings, while hoping they were wrong. To publicly agree with the warnings would have been to promote domestic chaos, which is what Putin expected to occur.
There is division in Germany on how to manage the Ukraine war after Trump withdraws. See:
https://quincyinst.org/research/the-risks-to-germany-and-europe-of-a-prolonged-war-in-ukraine/#
Dr Doolittlesays:
Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 12:41 am
Once it is confirmed the Russian murdered Oscar Jenkins. We should send the Russian ambassador home. Though more importantly, announced then and there that our old Abrams Tanks are all going to Ukraine. We could draw a picture of Tony Abbott on one and call it shirt front. Seeing the real one totally failed to deliver.
It’s awful how NATO has provoked Putin into starting five wars by causing Russia’s neighbours to all want to join a defensive alliance against it for some inexplicable reason.
I’d just like to return to this:
“ In pushing for a larger conflict, MacArthur downplayed the risk of inciting a massive war in Asia.”
https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/presidential-inquiries/firing-macarthur
I would propose that in pushing for a larger conflict, the U.S. and UK have downplayed the risk of inciting a massive war in Europe.
Entropysays:
Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 12:49 am
Dr Doolittlesays:
Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 12:41 am
Once it is confirmed the Russian murdered Oscar Jenkins. We should send the Russian ambassador home. Though more importantly, announced then and there that our old Abrams Tanks are all going to Ukraine. We could draw a picture of Tony Abbott on one and call it shirt front. Seeing the real one totally failed to deliver.
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Almost impressive that you can turn the death of Oscar Jenkins into a dig at Tony Abbott.
Rainmansays:
Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 12:33 am
Entropy,
It’s obviously Russia’s fault that they have put their border so close to so many U.S. military/NATO bases.
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It is Russia’s fault they are a murderous barbaric imperialistic nation. That installs so much fear into their neighbours. They all want to join defence pacts which protect them from Russian brutality.
davesays:
Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 12:54 am
Entropysays:
Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 12:49 am
Dr Doolittlesays:
Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 12:41 am
Once it is confirmed the Russian murdered Oscar Jenkins. We should send the Russian ambassador home. Though more importantly, announced then and there that our old Abrams Tanks are all going to Ukraine. We could draw a picture of Tony Abbott on one and call it shirt front. Seeing the real one totally failed to deliver.
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Almost impressive that you can turn the death of Oscar Jenkins into a dig at Tony Abbott.
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Oh the hypocrisy!
davesays:
Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 5:31 pm
Entropy, you obviously get something out of these encounters as you keep seeking them out. I don’t.
While we’re talking about “murderous barbaric imperialistic nations” –
“ The most significant death toll during the Cold War was amassed in Vietnam, claiming 3.8 million lives”
https://www.fairplanet.org/story/what-are-proxy-wars-and-where-are-they-happening/#:~:text=As%20many%20as%2020%20million,on%20battlefields%20of%20developing%20nations.
“The U.S. post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, and Somalia have taken a tremendous human toll. The total death toll in these war zones, including direct and indirect deaths, is at least 4.5-4.7 million and counting”
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians
“Since the start of the seven-month Israel-Hamas conflict, powerful US-supplied 2,000-pound bombs have been used in bombardments on Gaza’s heavily populated cities.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-09/us-2000-pound-bombs-to-israel-weapons-supply-gaza-hamas-war/103825348
“ Conservative figures show that more than 6,000 women and 11,000 children were killed in Gaza over the last 12 months”
https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/more-women-and-children-killed-gaza-israeli-military-any-other-recent-conflict
Who are the barbarians?
Rainmansays:
Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 1:29 am
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I never claimed Russia was the sole murderous barbaric imperialistic nation but they are certainly one of them.
Though i’m off now, not really that interested in this bit of whataboutism.
New thread.