Click here for full Aston by-election results updated live.
Sunday
7pm. More postal votes have been added, the later ones being weaker for the Liberals than the first, being only 1876-1839 to their advantage and leaving the Labor lead all but unchanged at 6342. The electronic assisted votes have also been added, of which there were a grand total of 22. That should leave us with about 4000 postals and a handful of provisionals, and there’s no reason to think either will change the size of Labor’s lead. I have now cleaned up the remaining bugs in my results, including the one that was preventing a swing on the preference flows from showing. Labor’s share has gone from 60% to 63.6%, reflecting the fact that the United Australia Party and One Nation were in the field last time. It may be noted that Pauline Hanson’s assertion that One Nation was sitting out the contest as a strategic move to harm Labor yielded no appreciable dividend.
11am. The first and biggest batch of postals have broken 3642-3065 to Liberal, and while this is a relatively modest swing of 1.0% to Labor, it only cuts the margin from 6466 to 6124.
Saturday
End of night. Election day and pre-poll booths ended up producing remarkably similar swings, at 6.3% and 6.5% on two-party preferred and barely less similar on the primary vote. We can seemingly still expect something approaching 20,000 postal votes, which will assuredly bite into the current margin of 6466, but not by nearly enough to overturn Labor’s remarkable win. The only other categories of outstanding vote are provisionals and electronic assisted votes, of which there will be barely more than a few hundred. It was a bit of a horror night for my election results page, partly because my system needs more work before it can handle two elections at the same time — work I haven’t had time to do over the past week. I’ve now patched it up to the extent that it’s more or less doing its job, providing booth results and swings neatly laid out in the table and on a map display you can view by clicking the link at the bottom of the page.
9.10pm. Three of the four pre-poll booths have reported their results in quick succession, and they have entirely dispelled the notion that the Liberals could hope for a late miracle.
8.40pm. All the ordinary booths have reported on both two-party and primary, which is pretty fast work. Presumably we’ll be getting big pre-poll results later in the evening. I notice that there aren’t raw two-candidate numbers on the AEC site, so perhaps it’s not just me. The “projections” shown on my results page are actually the raw results, and the zero swings shown for two-candidate preferred and preferences are fudges I’ve put in.
8.19pm. There are still a few issues with my display, notably the swings on the two-party preferred table, but after the insertion of a few fudges it’s mostly doing it’s job. So to finally comment on the actual numbers, what we have here is a grim night for the Liberal Party, who will need something extraordinary on pre-poll votes and postals to pull it out of the fire. It should be noted though that they just about did so in Wentworth after it was called for them quite early on the night, and that last week’s New South Wales election wasn’t as bad for them as it first appeared owing to a better dynamic for them on pre-polls.
8.11pm. I’ve finally ironed out the problem that was producing screwy primary vote swings and projections. Seemingly though there’s some other problem with the swings in the two-candidate preferred table.
7.32pm. It’s not a good night for my live results — bits of it are working but bits aren’t. Just use it for looking at booths results until I advise further.
7.15pm. My Boronia East two-party results aren’t adding up, but this was a booth where there appeared to be little swing on the primary vote.
7.11pm. The Wantirna South booth is now in, and it’s an intriguingly strong result for Labor, but there’s a 10% swing to Labor there, and the ABC TV coverage relates that Kos Samaras is hearing of consistent swings to Labor.
6.55pm. The first result is in from Rowville East, where both parties are up about 5% on the primary vote.
6pm. Polls have closed for the Aston by-election. Through the above link you will find live updated results, including full booth details in both tabular and map display and swing-based projections and probability estimates. This post will offer live commentary as the results come through, the first of which I imagine will be in about 45 minutes or so.
Albo knew well before last night that he had Aston in the bag, despite his protestations to the contrary. It’s not good to appear over-confident.
Facepalm!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/01/wipeout-beckons-for-liberals-after-aston-byelection-and-the-problem-is-not-just-peter-dutton
wranslide says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 2:47 pm
Out of curiosity, why have some bludgers chosen Labor as their team? A commitment to socialism? Unionism? Personality? A niche singular issue rather than broad ideology?
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98.6 says :
Fortunately, (or unfortunately) for me, my baptism of fire with the Labor party started with Whitlam’s first ‘double dissolution’ and was firmly entrenched by the events of 1975.
The liberals under Fraser showed me what to expect from a conservative government and I swore I would never ever vote for them for their actions.
I have heard many Labor political leaders quote the same reasons for them joining the party because of those events. Two of whom became state premiers.
When I said ‘unfortunately’ for me, I suppose I think that not being a swinging voter, my vote only cancels out the liberal voter so I don’t really see myself making or breaking a government.
The real winners are those who swing and the side they voted for wins on the day.
nath
I’m not having a go at him, no PM wants to be associated with losing, and once the win was certain, in he swoops to do some celebrating. I endorse his tactics.
What a champion bullshitter you are. Of course you are having a go at Albo. That is fine – do your worst.
But at least be upfront about it.
The Toorak Toff says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:08 pm
Albo knew well before last night that he had Aston in the bag, despite his protestations to the contrary. It’s not good to appear over-confident.
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98.6 agrees with you.
If someone like me knew Labor would win so did Albo and his Labor party.
As you said, “It’s not good to appear over-confident”.
Although Premier Joh Beljke-Petersen always bragged he would win any up-coming election and he was always right. Mind you he did have Jerry Mander on his team then.
That sort of thing doesn’t happen anymore as people don’t like ‘cocky’ politicians.
No one has been a bigger supporter of Albo on here than me. Back when Shorten was leader it was I who predicted that Albo would lead the ALP to victory and was the clear obvious leader.
At the time some current ALP partisans used to mock Albo, call him a ‘disaster’, a ‘crook’, and much else. That was not me.
Confessions
Voters are not repressed cultural warriors, agitating to break free and join the battle against wokeness.
This is excellently put. Quite often these RWNJs really do believe they speak for a majority (or at least a plurality) of the voting population. Consequently these same RWNJs regard themselves as occupying the cultural and political centre.
Albo toils ceaselessly for the masses, I have it on good authority that if you walk past kirribilli house you can see the light on in the PM’s study in the early hours of the morning.
When ordinary people are sleeping at 3am in the morning , Albo is thinking and planning about the needs and worries of Australian workers and peasants.
Paul Karp from the Guardian said this :
Over on Sky News, Tony Abbott’s former chief of staff Peta Credlin argued the result was driven by cranky conservatives not turning up to vote.
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Is Karp, and Peta Credlin accusing some ‘cranky conservatives’ of breaking the law by by not voting in the by-election.
Are they serious about that ?
I must admit I’ve heard that crap before !
Seems to me going by what we witnessed in federal parliament through the week that it seems a common thing to do among Tories when 7 (yes seven) coalition members bulldozed (as in Morrison) their way to the closing doors of the house of reps injuring a parliamentary woman staff member because they didn’t want to vote.
These are MPs whose average pay and entitlements are around $200,000 a year yet the LAZY ‘Inglourious Basterds’ can’t and won’t do what they are paid to do and that is to sit in parliament and vote when required.
HELLO !
Lars Von Trier says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 4:00 pm
Albo toils ceaselessly for the masses, I have it on good authority that if you walk past kirribilli house you can see the light on in the PM’s study in the early hours of the morning.
When ordinary people are sleeping at 3am in the morning , Albo is thinking and planning about the needs and worries of Australian workers and peasants.
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Not all studies are for the sole purpose of working, if you get my drift.
Wranslide – I’m on Team Labor as I see the party is easily the most likely route to seeing the policies I support put into practice by government. My views skew very much Left on most (though not all) issues, but I’m also a pragmatist. I recognise that my own ideological position is more Left than most of the general population, I know that in life one needs to compromise to get at least some of what you want. In policy terms, the ABC Vote Compass tends to place me somewhere the ALP and the Greens, but I tend to identify more with the former as it represents a broader base, and a base outside the Left intelligentsia in which I tend to reside. Real and lasting change comes from getting a critical mass of the population on board, and the Labor Party, for all its faults, remains by far the most plausible vehicle for such change.
Everyone within the Liberal party is claiming that nothing was a factor.
The candidate was a great candidate, Dutton’s leadership was not a factor, the Deeming affair had nothing to do with says Pesutto and Tudge had been such a great local member.
Yet they lost…..
I will file these under “Lies they tell themself”.
The slippery EEL said this!?! 🙄
‘I have it on good authority’ he’s probably lying. 😐
B.S. Fairman says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 4:30 pm
Everyone within the Liberal party is claiming that nothing was a factor.
The candidate was a great candidate, Dutton’s leadership was not a factor, the Deeming affair had nothing to do with says Pesutto and Tudge had been such a great local member.
Yet they lost…..
I will file these under “Lies they tell themself”.
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Pesutto will find himself quite lonely in publicly disconnecting the Deeming thing from Aston.
He is a Moderate. He will be blamed. The fact that he state leader is irrelevant: it must be shown that being in the thrall of Moderates leads to losing.
Under the bus he will go.
”Everyone within the Liberal party is claiming that nothing was a factor.
The candidate was a great candidate, Dutton’s leadership was not a factor, the Deeming affair had nothing to do with says Pesutto and Tudge had been such a great local member.
Yet they lost…..”
The punters foolishly failed to follow instructions, no doubt laid out clearly in the Herald Sun, The Age, The Australian, Channels 7 and 9 and radio 3AW, and voted wrong…
98.6 says:
Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:23 pm
While I’m not doing a poll it might be interesting to know who bludgers think will win on Saturday.
Different scenario from the state election though.
1 in a hundred years odds. That’s only approx 33 elections. (Not 100)
America’s Cup only contested every 4 years. Australia won after US not beaten for 126 years.
Former member bonking his media advisor. Costing us taxpayers $650,000.
Former member part of the illegal RoboDebt scheme.
Former member’s wife divorced him due to his bonking someone else.
Former member making voters go back to the polling booth not yet 12 months from last election.
Former member kicked his naked lover out of bed in a rage. Domestic violence ?
New Liberal candidate is from the same party as the former member was with.
Only 2.8% swing needed.
Dutton on the nose everywhere.
Dutton is completely bald.
Dutton is sorry he didn’t say SORRY with Kevvie.
Albo has some hair but thin and grey.
Albo riding high in the polls.
Dutton is an a**ehole.
Albo doesn’t need the extra seat.
Dutton will be a dead man walking if he loses.
Albo couldn’t care less if he loses.
Albo will be a legend if he wins.
I’m saying Labor will win, but I don’t care if they don’t.
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That was then this is now.
Were any of the above a reason or multiple reasons for Dutton and his motley crew being slaughtered on the altar of ASTON.
What I will also predict is that PM Anthony Albanese, who is now a legend within Australian politics, will be remembered in a hundred years from now as the PM whose government won an opposition seat in a by-election, something that hadn’t happened in over 100 years.
And as we all saw on the INSIDERS this morning, Dutton looked and talked like a DEAD MAN walking.
maybi duttons most damaging coment was when he made the very stupid claimthat if chinease australians voted for labor the ccp wants labor to winn impliying chinease australians cant make up there own minds i dont think he will ever be able to getover that with the local comunity thistudge him selfsiad perhals the anti china retorick was to over the top dutton was the most responsible forpoliticising not just china but is the most openly racist liberal leader in a long time he lead theattacks especialy on crime in victoria dutton is so unpopular no liberal wants to be sceen with him nsw liberals kept him as far away as posible during election
Campbell was a poor candidate. First there is her relationship with the K Mart Mussolini. Then there is the disconnect that results from her coming from a wealthy and entitled background, being a barrister. Yep earning $3000 a day makes her so relatable. Then there is the fact that Aston is probably a place she only ever flies over, when she is on her way to somewhere glamorous. She had no hope against a genuine candidate in the form of Doyle.
Let’s hope Dutton keeps taking advice from Peta Credlin, Paul Murray and the other idiots on Sky News.
And Dutton always has his mate on 2GB, Ray Hadley, to give him a reassuring pep talk every Thursday morning.
Postal votes being counted.
As far as I can tell, about 5,000 counted today and Campbell has gained 101 votes’ worth of ground.
So, if she wins the remainder by a similar margin AND we weight postals by a factor of about 17 (only fair, these are Tories, after all) – she might have a snowball’s-in-mid-Simpson-Desert chance!
I do wish NSW postals had broken this way…
Voters down in Victoria are far more enlightened, still too many rusted on Liberals in NSW, especially the over 50s, who just blindly vote Liberal or National, regardless of the quality of their local MP or candidate. And I’d assume Labor in Aston put a lot more effort into getting Labor voters to send in postal votes than their counterparts in NSW, hence the Liberal candidate in Aston really making up little ground on the lead Mary Ward had gained last night.
Yeah, it was disheartening in terms of the NSW election to see 5 or 6 seats where Labor had leads on election night trend back to the Liberals by the end of this week once postals and pre polls had been counted.
wranslide says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 2:47 pm
Out of curiosity, why have some bludgers chosen Labor as their team? A commitment to socialism? Unionism? Personality? A niche singular issue rather than broad ideology?
Children overboard convince me the Liberals were nonredeemable. That showed total disrespect for the navy and for people. To lie like that and be in public office is unacceptable. It is no surprise to me they have needed up where they are.
On the other hand, when change is needed who has implemented it? Labor shows more competence.
For Gina the Hutt’s spiritual children Ha!.
Evan
You needed to honest with regard Labor in NSW. Their last period in government was nothing to be proud of. If they behave like convicts again the voters will put the rum core back in charge.
Clem you’d earn less in a week (as a teacher) what you say Campbell earns in a day. Could this part of ur issue ?
Evansays:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 5:35 pm
Voters down in Victoria are far more enlightened, still too many rusted on Liberals in NSW, especially the over 50s, who just blindly vote Liberal or National, regardless of the quality of their local MP or candidate. And I’d assume Labor in Aston put a lot more effort into getting Labor voters to send in postal votes than their counterparts in NSW, hence the Liberal candidate in Aston really making up little ground on the lead Mary Ward had gained last night.
Yeah, it was disheartening in terms of the NSW election to see 5 or 6 seats where Labor had leads on election night trend back to the Liberals by the end of this week once postals and pre polls had been counted.
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Yep as a Sydney boy I totally agree with this. There are in fact still areas of Sydney that are trending towards the Liberal Party, such as the federal seat of Banks and the state seat of East Hills. I say East Hills because Labor only got a +1.4 swing towards them. Lots of materialistic wannabes in these areas. Also in much of the Sutherland Shire you could put a trained chimp as the Liberal candidate and they would be elected. But good to see Simon Earle get a massive swing towards him against the terrible Liberal MP in Miranda.
Lars wrote, “Clem you’d earn less in a week (as a teacher) what you say Campbell earns in a day. Could this part of ur issue ?”
Hit the nail on the head Lars. There is a class war going on and her class is winning it. I am resisting her classe’s efforts.
Over on Sky News, Tony Abbott’s former chief of staff Peta Credlin argued the result was driven by cranky conservatives not turning up to vote.
They are really not that bright, they import their campaigning and talking points from the USA.
Even before the day there were column inches being written that the problem was getting out the vote.
The really strange thing is they expect us to pay to read this crap.
Fair enough Clem.
Viva la revolucion
S. Simpsonsays:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 5:47 pm
Evansays:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 5:35 pm
Voters down in Victoria are far more enlightened, still too many rusted on Liberals in NSW, especially the over 50s, who just blindly vote Liberal or National, regardless of the quality of their local MP or candidate. And I’d assume Labor in Aston put a lot more effort into getting Labor voters to send in postal votes than their counterparts in NSW, hence the Liberal candidate in Aston really making up little ground on the lead Mary Ward had gained last night.
Yeah, it was disheartening in terms of the NSW election to see 5 or 6 seats where Labor had leads on election night trend back to the Liberals by the end of this week once postals and pre polls had been counted.
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Yep as a Sydney boy I totally agree with this. There are in fact still areas of Sydney that are trending towards the Liberal Party, such as the federal seat of Banks and the state seat of East Hills. I say East Hills because Labor only got a +1.4 swing towards them. Lots of materialistic wannabes in these areas. Also in much of the Sutherland Shire you could put a trained chimp as the Liberal candidate and they would be elected. But good to see Simon Earle get a massive swing towards him against the terrible Liberal MP in Miranda.
Can give some credence to Evan’s argument but it is ignoring the more obvious factor of OPV in the NSW election as against full preferential voting Federally. Might this have changed some of these outcomes ……. impossible to know but one cannot help thinking there is a defensible case for the proposition.
S.Simpson; I can agree with your view of parts of “the Shire”, southern half of Banks but there may also be a corresponding realignment “in the works” with the very evident levels of disenchantment seen what have historically been “blue ribbon” Liberal areas, particularly north of the Harbour.
The degree to which Lab may directly profit is open to speculation but as long as the Liberal party (particularly Federally) continue on their current course; these voters will be seeing few if any convincing reasons to return to the fold.
frednk says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 5:42 pm
Evan
You needed to honest with regard Labor in NSW. Their last period in government was nothing to be proud of. If they behave like convicts again the voters will put the rum core back in charge.
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Some in the Labor govt could be proud of their efforts. Others wound up in prison. I note ICAC seems to be moving much slower these days – Liberal under-funding? Darker reasons?
The number of Coalition MPs resigning over their period in govt due to ICAC is in double figures.
Bob Carr was a fine Premier – better than all the Libs.
The Libs also allegedly showed how to spread alleged corruption between levels of govt – Liberal donor sells land to Lib state/fed airport for 10 times its value…
Snappy Tom, a coupla pages back:
Wikipedia has the goods (across various pages). 15 LNP are Libs, 6 are Nats (Capricornia, Dawson, Flynn, Hinkler, Maranoa, Wide Bay – basically a big swathe of central Qld). All the Brisbane / Gold Coast / Sunshine Coast seats are Libs, as are Herbert, Leichhardt, Groom and Wright. In the senate there’s 3 Libs and 2 Nats – not sure how they figure out who’s who there.
Campbell actually losing ground in postals today (and barely winning them overall at this point), although she will no doubt be reassured by her thumping 107-93 win among the institutionalized. This is Krusty Burglar meme territory at this point.
Bird of paradox says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 6:18 pm
Snappy Tom, a coupla pages back:
(I have heard that Qld LNP members are, for party room purposes (like handing out portfolios) “classified” as either Nat or Lib, but I don’t know how to find out about this.)
Wikipedia has the goods (across various pages). 15 LNP are Libs, 6 are Nats (Capricornia, Dawson, Flynn, Hinkler, Maranoa, Wide Bay – basically a big swathe of central Qld). All the Brisbane / Gold Coast / Sunshine Coast seats are Libs, as are Herbert, Leichhardt, Groom and Wright. In the senate there’s 3 Libs and 2 Nats – not sure how they figure out who’s who there.
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Thanks BofP.
So, the nation has 41 Lib MHRs (15 in Qld) and 15 Nats. 56 of 151 or 37%.
In the 1943 mid-WW2 election, the then-Coalition was reduced to 23 of 74 seats, or 31%.
In 1946, the Liberals’ first election, the Coalition won 29 of 74 or 39%.
Another notable Coalition defeat was 1983, 50 of 125 seats, or 40%.
Things before WW2 are a too chaotic. Suffice to say, the Coalition we are seeing is the second-worst-performing in 80 years – and the worst since WW2.
Will the ACT Liberals learn anything from the result in Aston? Probably not. Unless something amazing happens, the hard-right clique will remain in control until the October 2024 election, in Australia’s most progressive electorate. Long may they remain in opposition.
Just caught up with Insiders. more Raf Epstien please.
God no – as I keep saying, if Liberals want to look anywhere for model – it’s Tasmania.
Leave people alone, cut the culture wars shit and go to your safe “full economic managers” bullshit.
Or wait, don’t do that.
The dominance of the Evangelicals and mouth-breathers in the PLP, supported by strategists who cut their teeth in US campaigns fixated on “the base” (completely counter to our voting system) means there’s next to no chance they listen.
Snappy Tom says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 6:15 pm
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The Libs also allegedly showed how to spread alleged corruption between levels of govt – Liberal donor sells land to Lib state/fed airport for 10 times its value…
Yep, and the voters gave Labor another chance. Lets hope for the country the convicts are all in prison. NSW’s has often pulled the federal Labor vote down and we all suffer.
Just looked at William’s map.
Anybody know the demographic at Lysterfield where Campbell got 56 percent 2PP?
frednk says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 6:52 pm
Snappy Tom says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 6:15 pm
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The Libs also allegedly showed how to spread alleged corruption between levels of govt – Liberal donor sells land to Lib state/fed airport for 10 times its value…
Yep, and the voters gave Labor another chance. Lets hope for the country the convicts are all in prison. NSW’s has often pulled the federal Labor vote down and we all suffer.
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Federal Labor does hold 26 of 47 NSW HoR seats. If that win rate was applied across the nation, Labor would hold 83 (not the current 78).
NSW (alleged) corruption/criminality isn’t the problem here, it’s Qld voters!
Snappy Tom says:
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NSW (alleged) corruption/criminality isn’t the problem here, it’s Qld voters!
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Numerous NSW ALP MPs have been allegedly found guilty of corruption. Allegedly.
nath says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:41 pm
No one has been a bigger supporter of Albo on here than me. Back when Shorten was leader it was I who predicted that Albo would lead the ALP to victory and was the clear obvious leader.
At the time some current ALP partisans used to mock Albo, call him a ‘disaster’, a ‘crook’, and much else. That was not me.
中华人民共和国
What label am I? Am I a stooge or a partisan?
I ike the idea of a partisan better. Living off the land – attacking Tories and Greenies when they least expect it then blending into the night. Perhaps a Beret on the head, hand crafted cigarette in mouth. Super fit and young female cadre by my side. Sorry it’s off thread topic but all these labels confuse me.
Upnorth – A Labor Stooge says:
What label am I? Am I a stooge or a partisan?
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There are many fine Labor partisans here. To be a stooge you have to demonstrate a certain amount of hysteria and ludicrousness. You know it when you see it.
At the moment you are simply classified as a partisan.
nath says:
Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 7:22 pm
Upnorth – A Labor Stooge says:
What label am I? Am I a stooge or a partisan?
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There are many fine Labor partisans here. To be a stooge you have to demonstrate a certain amount of hysteria and ludicrousness. You know it when you see it.
At the moment you are simply classified as a partisan.
中华人民共和国
Muchly appreciated. I have updated my “handle” to note.
Current coalition = 26 Lib, 9 Nat (in NSW and Vic), 21 LNP. Break the LNP down to what party room they sit in, and that’s 41 Lib, 15 Nat.
The AEC definition of “urban” isn’t the greatest yardstick. I’d call Flinders and La Trobe outer suburban, so that’s 5 Lib seats in Melbourne – still bad, but not quite so horrifying. It’s even more so in Brisbane: include the GC/SC seats in a big SE Qld metro area, and the Libs would have a majority of that – 11 Lib, 5 ALP, 3 Grn. The two coasts really skew things – there’s half a dozen seats which have pretty much never been won by Labor. Fisher for a while in the Hawke years, and I think that’s it.
The Lib seats I’d refer to as non-urban (basically, anything outside the built-up areas of the five big cities):
NSW: Farrer, Hume.
Vic: Monash, Wannon.
Qld: Leichhardt, Herbert, Groom, Wright.
WA: Durack, O’Connor, Forrest. (Not Canning – you can get to Mandurah on a Transperth train, it’s suburban.)
SA: Grey, Barker.
Tas: Bass, Braddon.
Breaking that down:
26 urban Libs
15 rural Libs / Lib-flavoured LNP
15 Nats / Nat-flavoured LNP
So the combined coalition has a slight rural majority (30/56), but the Liberal party room has an urban majority (26/41).
Rumour has it that the main qualification to be a stooge instead of a partisan is to call nath out on his bullshit.
well labors best performers currently is penny wong who ie the best would make a good pm and qlds murray watt jason clare is he was aloud a higher profile and burke is okay marles is starting to relax slightly albanese was never great butis not as comfortable being pm watt would make a good lower house qld mp labor has little tallint in that state in house its a bout time the uselis shain newman and graham perit retired next election maybi pliberseck and shortin
Rossmcg: Lysterfield swung 5.8% to Labor, roughly the seat average. A really conservative booth that became somewhat less so.
Kos Samaras sayeth:
“Across Australia, (Liberals) only hold 14 urban electorates.
Perth – 1
Adelaide – 1
Melbourne – 3
Sydney – 6
Brisbane – 3
Hobart – 0
Darwin – 0
ACT – 0
Just 2 more seats than the Greens/Teals/Ind who hold 12.
If we focus on established urban areas that don’t contain semi rural components, the Liberal Party’s capital city status drops to 8.
So in reality, the Greens/Teals and Independents hold more established urban seats than the Liberal Party. Think about that for a moment!”
Basically, the rest of the Coalition has been sacrificed to the Nationals and LNP who remain divinely convinced that what appeals to them should appeal to the entire country, even as city seats have now almost entirely rejected them.
bowen is a bit like turnbull smart but tends to over explain and can go in to to much detail so is dreyfuss clearly a barister there was a reason henderson targitid Watt and thats he was one of labors better performers he needs somthing more senyor then agriculture farell is the weakist performer