Federal voting intention numbers from the latest fortnightly Essential Research poll have both parties down a point on the primary vote from a fortnight ago, with Labor at 33% and the Coalition at 30%, with the Greens enjoying a curiously timed three point surge to 17%, One Nation down two to 6% and undecided unchanged at 5%. Presumably reflecting the elevated result for the Greens, Labor is up two on the 2PP+ measure at 55% and the Coalition are down two to 40%, with undecided steady at 5%.
The poll also featured the pollster’s monthly “favourability ratings” for the two leaders, whom respondents rate on a scale of one to ten rather than provide straight approval and disapproval responses. Anthony Albanese’s results were little changed from late November, with 47% rating him seven or higher (up one), 27% from four to six (up one) and 22% from zero to three (down one), while Peter Dutton is respectively at 26% (down two), 31% (down one) and 35% (up two).
Support for an Indigenous voice increased two points to 65% with opposition down two to 35%, while 30% said they felt well informed about the proposal compared with 37% for poorly informed. Forty-three per cent rated that the country was headed in the right direction (down one), compared with 37% for the wrong direction (up one). The 300 respondents from New South Wales were again asked about approval of the state leaders, with Dominic Perrottet up four on approval to 51% and down three on disapproval to 33%, while Chris Minns at is steady at 38% and down two to 25%.
The poll was conducted Wednesday to Monday from a sample of 1000.
C@tmommasays:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 4:58 pm
Enough Already @ #777 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 4:48 pm
Rex Douglas @ Monday, February 13, 2023 at 4:46 pm:
“Who the fuck do these Russian occupiers think they are
I ask the same of the colonial occupiers here.”
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Not an unfair question.”
No, a false equivalence statement. As Alpo has pointed out.”
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C@tmomma, that’s technically true, but I think it is still true that there were historic injustices against the original inhabitants of this land which the rest of us are continuing to profit from (in all senses of the word). I am not inclined to try to quantitatively compare the magnitude of these injustices, nor their proximity to present day enjoyment of the spoils of them. I think the injustice being inflicted right now upon the people of Ukraine by Moscow is the immediate priority for the us in the Western world right now, but I also think the more local injustices should still be kept in mind.
That said, I agreed with Alpo’s point above that the correct conclusion to draw from this is to vigorously support Ukraine against Moscow, and to enthusiastically vote and campaign for “Yes” to the Voice. I cannot speak for the conclusion Rex draws from this…
Alpo @ Monday, February 13, 2023 at 5:12 pm:
“I am not sure whether you will be able to have Rex’s soul for the Ukrainian cause… But good luck anyway, it’s always worth trying.”
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Alpo, I read his response to my post as embracing Ukraine’s cause as much as he embraces our First Nations’ cause. I don’t think he would be so hypocritical or irrational to think otherwise, would he? 😉
its no suprise Sh4epod resigned from venues nsw i assume when minns becomes premier Shepod would be out of a job he was the chair of scg trust the group lobeying foor thenew stadiums maybi minns could clear out the bord which is stacked with liberals including the former nsw finance minister Gregg pearce close friend of lobeyist michael photios and alan jones
But I guess all this spit balling about ChatGPT ignores the very concerning underlying political questions.
What are the policy approaches for a population that has a 30% unemployment rate. When all the tier 1 contact centre, receptionist, form filler inner roles can be replaced by a competently programed chat bot, what do you do with your surplus labour force.
National service (non military), a living wage, mass homelessness?
This technology will move faster than our policy makers can keep up.
is it care taker can perrottitdo a jobs foor the boys to fill the role or will it be up to the new government morrison made many appointments of mates to government bodies prior to election particularly the admin tribunal what is happening to the tribunal now including the liberal appointments
Aaron newton @ #2804 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 5:28 pm
Legislative Assembly expires on 3 March.
Caretaker from there.
BOERWAR
The last assertion is false.
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Are you referring to :-although their ancestors lived here forever.
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Yes.
1. Nobody’s ancestors lived anywhere forever.
2. Apart from that, this continent has been without humans for around 99% of its existence.
3. The hard evidence is that the length of human presence in Australia is, compared with Eurasia and Africa, extremely short.
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Everything you’ve pointed out could be true.
When I was at school decades ago, we learnt that Aboriginals had been here for about 5,000 years.
Every few years scientists and archaeologists find more proof that they have been here a lot longer, at last estimate 65,000 years, give or take a year.
My own opinion is that the theory that humans originated in Africa is just that, a theory, and in a decade or ten it may be proved wrong and maybe it will be found that aboriginals have been here for 100,000 years.
However, when I wrote ‘although their ancestors lived here forever’, IMO, 65,000 years is forever.
So I stand with my original statement but I will defend to the death your right to have your difference of opinion.
Mostly Interested @ #792 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 5:27 pm
The Service Economy is expected to be able to absorb those low skilled, low education workers. Hospitality, Aged Care, Disability Care. Not to mention the jobs in manufacturing which will come back onshore as the West re-orientates itself away from countries which had set themselves up to use the supply chain and natural resources as choke points for geopolitical advantage, such as Russia and China. Also, I can see jobs in the installation and maintenance of our new Renewable Energy sources and building the new grid to accommodate them. And that’s just off the top of my head. 🙂
I am a very very long observer of politics in this country and how and why Governments change and fall out of favour. Why PMs come and go…how right swings to left and back again.
The change of government and sentiment from right to left happens slowly and almost imperceptably as the population gradually become aware of the intrinsic uncaring nature of right wing governments. But as long as you yourself and your immediate family are prospering or at least getting by, then this change is still further slowed….but eventually enough people become directly effected and the age of the government begins to weigh heavy….then after 3, or 4 or even 5 or more election cycles the electorate will give the left side of the political specrum a go (no discussion entertained on how left it is, just more left than went previously).
This newly elected left government will be sworn into office with a huge wave surge of optimism, and a desire to make changes for the better…. but is beset by detractors from all sides almost from the beginning. The new opposition, who feel its their right to hold the strings of power. The Media, their allies, provide a constant white anting of misinformation, distortion, and blantant lies of omission or exaggeration. The government is also attacked by elements of society and institutions for attemping to change anything of the status quo. These attacks are to be expected…..However, the government is also attacked from groups further to the left who feel it is not moving fast enough or far enough on issues, despite being elected upon certain platforms and promises. It is also attacked for not doing things which would be blatantly outside the scope and approval of the vast majority of the electorate and which issues and ideas sound preposterous to the central majority of the electorate….but these ideas are nevertheless pinned on the new left government by the media and the opposition….and so are tarred as overly “woke” in todays terminology. It is this attack from groups that should be allies which is the most destructive, and so this left government has 2 or at best 3 electoral cycle lifetime as it is dragged down by all sides.
Is this left government replaced by one even further to the left that will offer more change, more action?….No. It is replaced by the Right once again….who are further emboldened to think that being right or further to the right than ever before has inevitably brought them back to the halls of power once more. ….also they are more determined than ever not to lose again to the “left rabble” and have learned new tricks and schemes from other right parties overseas.
Reading PB is a microcosm of society and its various elements. Which are you? The right and its supporters? The left and its supporters? or the even further left who will never see the inside of a cabinet room?
Aqualung @ #794 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 5:36 pm
Not that it held back the federal Liberals, as we found out today wrt to appointments to the ABC board of fellow travellers.
Democracy is quite alien to Russia and Belarus, and even more so in 2022 than the year before:
“Belarus takes an unsurprising hit to its Democracy Index, published by The Economist Group, placing 153rd out of 167 countries….
… The Democracy Index dubbed Belarus one of 2022’s “worst performers,” giving it an average score of 1.99 out of 10.00.
Belarus received a staggering 0.00 for “electoral processes and pluralism.” Since the fraudulent presidential election in 2020, Belarusian dictator Lukashenko has violently clung to power and stifled opposition.
The publication has labeled Belarus an authoritarian regime since its first report in 2006.
Russia also took a hit, falling 22 places in the Democracy Index to 146th – the steepest decline in 2022.”
https://kyivindependent.com/regional/belarus-weekly-russian-jets-remain-in-belarus-after-completion-joint-exercises
Some results from this years’ list:
Australia # 15 – full democracy
New Zealand # 2 – full democracy
USA # 30 – flawed democracy
UK # 18 – full democracy
Ireland # 8 – full democracy
Canada # 12 – full democracy
Norway # 1 – full democracy
China # 156 – authoritarian
Ukraine # 87 – hybrid regime
Turkey # 115 – hybrid regime
Afghanistan # 167 (last) – authoritarian
Russia # 146 – authoritarian
Belarus # 153 – authoritarian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
“Russian front moves 2km west in four days – reports
Russia claims its troops have advanced 2km (1.24 miles) to the west in four days along the frontline in Ukraine.”
The Russians seem to be advertising that as a great achievement (if true).
2km in 4 days? Is that worth the cost in lives involved?… It looks that the Russians are truly desperate to produce something, anything that sounds like “good news”…..
Russians KIA Feb 13: 560
Total Russians KIA: 138,340
Daily average Russians KIA: 389.7
Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/02/13/7389066/
Maybe, not discounting this outcome.
But an entry level job in aged care doesn’t lead very far. One in a contact centre can. The skill sets a young first jober can get in a largeish contact centre is quite amazing (I spent 4 years in one).
It’s easy to map a career from a minimum wage job in that setting to something quote senior and scalable. I don’t see that so much in the care industry (I spent 7 years in that one).
So it can set up a low wage trap for people if that’s where we turn our economy towards.
Another win for Brexit:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/13/post-brexit-rules-leave-british-woman-with-alzheimers-facing-removal-from-sweden
98.6
‘Everything you’ve pointed out could be true.’
The one thing that cannot possibly be true is your original assertion.
“Boerwar says:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 5:54 pm
Another win for Brexit”
Unfortunately for the British people, Brexit was delivered and managed by a Neoliberal government, and Neoliberals are fully convinced that whatever they do, they will enjoy the benefits of it, but others will pay the costs… I wonder what that British woman and her family think about it.
‘Alpo says:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 5:58 pm
“Boerwar says:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 5:54 pm
Another win for Brexit”
Unfortunately for the British people, Brexit was delivered and managed by a Neoliberal government, and Neoliberals are fully convinced that whatever they do, they will enjoy the benefits of it, but others will pay the costs… I wonder what that British woman and her family think about it.’
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I doubt whether the woman with Alzheimer’s is thinking anything much about anything. Once the UK Brexited, UK citizens lost reciprocal rights of access to continental health systems.
It is what it is and it has nothing to do with neoliberal anything.
About time the conventions were hard coded into the various parliaments with serious penalties for breaches C@tmomma.
Require a joint sitting of both houses with a 2/3 majority to change or a referendum.
Watching Penny Wong as the Minister in PM&C Estimates – she certainly has a different demeanour than when she was inquisitor.
Folded arms have replaced the raised eyebrow…
Enough Already
“Could the Russian occupiers be draining out as much water as they can for Crimea and storing it up somewhere, just in case they lose the rest of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia and this canal is cut off?”
Regarding the water diversion from the Khakovka Reservoir, the volumes are huge, beyond the capacity of a supertanker to carry, never mind water trucks or trains. I doubt there would be enough trucks in the whole of Russia to store the water. Unless Russia has already built some very large storage dams in Crimea, the water diverted will be either used or wasted.
For that reason, I see this as merely another form of attack on Ukraine’s civilian infrastructure by Russian forces. One last abuse of power before expulsion. Sorry 🙁
On the plus side, if Russia really thought they had any chance of capturing the rest of Zaphorizia, they would not be doing this.
British farmers are getting smashed by Brexit.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/feb/12/farmers-post-brexit-payments
A fair bit of bullshit here on the Brit side. Witless.
The EU has already made up its mind. Britain is going it alone. That is what Brexit means. Inter alia, one result is that multinational corporations which were feeding off the huge EU science budget are shifting out of Britain and into the EU to keep the science feed going.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/12/eu-horizon-europe-research-michelle-donelan-uk-snub-brexit
I am sure that watermelon will be around to explain the diversions in terms of keeping the population of Caspian Seals healthy. Or something like that.
‘sprocket_ says:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:06 pm
Watching Penny Wong as the Minister in PM&C Estimates – she certainly has a different demeanour than when she was inquisitor.
Folded arms have replaced the raised eyebrow…’
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She could just do what the Coalition did at Estimates. Take the questions on notice and then spend years not answering them.
How does the U.K. with a primitive first past the post voting system, on top of voluntary voting, get rated as a full democracy? Surely it is a flawed democracy, like the U.S?
Apologies if already posted…
Also delivers Both Barilaros’…
‘Both Barilaros’ reason for the majority of black spot funding going to Labor-held seats: Albanese
By Angus Thompson
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has given Nationals leader David Littleproud “both Barilaros” in response to his question over the majority of mobile black-spot funding going to Labor-held seats.
Littleproud’s question comes off the back of the government repeatedly targeting the Nationals over their NSW counterparts’ decision to steer bushfire recovery funding away from Labor electorates.
The NSW auditor-general found the office of former NSW deputy premier John Barilaro intervened in the $100 million program and altered the guidelines, resulting in Labor electorates missing out on emergency funding despite being ravaged by the deadly Black Summer fires.
Littleproud asked: “I refer to Labor’s first round of the mobile phone black spots program, opened this month in 54 target locations. Why is it that 74 per cent of these target locations are in Labor Party-held electorates? How is this fair and accountable for bushfire-prone communities across regional Australia, desperate for better mobile coverage?”
Albanese: “I should give credit where credit is due to the Minister for Energy [Chris Bowen], who suggested I should give you both Barilaros on that question.”
He then accused Littleproud of “extraordinary gall”, referencing a Coalition decision to fund an upgrade to the North Sydney Pool, on the Sydney Harbour, under a regional scheme “because some people from the country might swim in it sometimes”.
Who could blame the EU for wanting nothing to do with the Blairites and Tories.
Antony Green – elections @AntonyGreenElec
Just a reminder. The Senate cannot block a referendum. It can delay by blocking the bill, but after 3 months, the government can put the bill to the House again and does not need Senate approval to hold the referendum. #auspol #TheVoice
Donelan decided to become a politician at the age of 6. Her entire career has been more or less entirely devoid of in-depth preparation for her current ministry: Science, Innovation and Technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Donelan
Dear old Integrity!
The old one line double bait: ‘Blairites’ and ‘Tories’.
‘Holdenhillbilly says:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:14 pm
Antony Green – elections @AntonyGreenElec
Just a reminder. The Senate cannot block a referendum. It can delay by blocking the bill, but after 3 months, the government can put the bill to the House again and does not need Senate approval to hold the referendum. #auspol #TheVoice’
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That is one thing the Greens will not be able to stop.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/12/the-return-of-fawlty-towers-cant-rival-the-truss-comeback-farce
John Cheese decries woke’ism on twitter, but he won’t be having any racist stereotypes on
his new faulty towers will he? How woke is that!
Boerwar @ #820 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 6:17 pm
Or the Coalition. If The Greens choose to not support it either.
98.6 says:
My own opinion is that the theory that humans originated in Africa is just that, a theory, and in a decade or ten it may be proved wrong and maybe it will be found that aboriginals have been here for 100,000 years.
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Your opinion is worth little. All fossil and DNA evidence shows that humans evolved in Africa. Only the details are in dispute. Aboriginal presence in Australia for 100k years does in no way prove the Out of Africa model wrong. Recent evidence shows the likelihood of several movements of Homo Sapiens out of Africa as far back as around 180k years.
Beyond that, we know that Homo Sapiens and our closest relative, the Chimpanzee have a direct common ancestor at least 4 million years ago. And that divergence most definitely took place in Africa.
davo says:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:20 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/12/the-return-of-fawlty-towers-cant-rival-the-truss-comeback-farce
John Cheese decries woke’ism on twitter, but he won’t be having any racist stereotypes on
his new faulty towers will he? How woke is that!
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I thought it was cancel culture that he decried.
Socrates @ Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:07 pm:
“For that reason, I see this as merely another form of attack on Ukraine’s civilian infrastructure by Russian forces. One last abuse of power before expulsion. Sorry ”
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Socrates, I know. So much for Russia’s “brotherly protection” for the “Little Russians” from the “Nazis”. 😡
Enough Already @ #2812 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 5:17 pm
I’ll be voting YES at the referendum, for whatever that’s worth. Treaty is far more important IMO.
We’re kindred spirits on the hostile invasion and occupation of Ukraine and Australia.
The world must continue to force Russia out of Ukraine and the colonial Govt of Australia must treaty with FN peoples.
The Age 13/02
Former Labor minister Greg Combet was awarded a lucrative contract advising the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet without an open tender process, taking the value of contracts won by Labor figures since the Albanese government’s election to nearly $160,000.
The Rudd/Gillard-era minister told this masthead he was bound by confidentiality and could not disclose the work he was doing for the government, which has committed to de-politicising the public service after the Morrison government was accused of fostering a “jobs for mates” culture.
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Fingers crossed, there might be a job for you yet C@t.
98.6 says:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 4:30 pm
It is hard to believe that in the public gallery in federal parliament today there were Aboriginal people who for a part of their lifetime were not accepted as Australians, although their ancestors lived here forever.
Sure beats anyone boasting about their ancestors coming here on the first fleet 235 years ago.
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What I find fascinating is the strong likelihood that Aboriginal people’s ancestors (most of them) were living in Australia before my ancestors were living in Europe. That really gives me a sense of how long our indigenous people have been in this country.
Mostly Interested @ #802 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 5:49 pm
I don’t know that you are 100% correct on that one. My son has had various friends and parents of friends who have worked at call centres. They gave 110% but it was just the same job, day in, day out. Some were so desperate for a job they stuck it out for as long as they could. The only way up and out of the job was to become a supervisor and they didn’t want to do that because that involved bullying the underlings to achieve their KPIs.
On the other hand, my son works in an NDIS job as a Carer and he has the opportunity to move up to become a House Manager or a District Manager, if he keeps studying. Aged Care may be different, unless you go on to study Nursing, which a lot do, so I have been told. Especially now that a Nurse will have to be on site 24/7 in all Aged Care facilities.
Rex Douglas @ Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:31 pm:
“I’ll be voting YES at the referendum, for whatever that’s worth. Treaty is far more important IMO.
We’re kindred spirits on the hostile invasion and occupation of Ukraine and Australia.
The world must continue to force Russia out of Ukraine and the colonial Govt of Australia must treaty with FN peoples.”
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Rex, I agree with all of that.
Taylormade @ #2849 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 6:32 pm
The fact that they go with ‘confidentiality’ is in itself a red flag.
It’s taxpayers money so tell us what you’re doing FFS and if it stacks up then no problemo.
Taylormade @ #827 Monday, February 13th, 2023 – 6:32 pm
I have a job. Looking after people’s pets. Thanks for asking.
But, now that you mention it, there is a difference between Labor appointing Greg Combet and the Coalition appointing their mates and donors. Competency.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-figures-awarded-contracts-without-open-tenders-20230213-p5ck1x.html
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I am shocked, shocked I tell you that this is going on.
We picked up our new puppy this morning. He’s really settled in.
And he already has full control of our daughter’s dog.
We’ve got Rowland’s massive COI and Labor mates getting Govt contracts without a tender.
Disappointing from Labor.
Same Same but different Rex.
That’s beautiful BK. 🙂
“Lars Von Trier says:
Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:39 pm
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-figures-awarded-contracts-without-open-tenders-20230213-p5ck1x.html
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I am shocked, shocked I tell you that this is going on.”
“Former Labor minister Greg Combet was awarded a lucrative contract advising the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet without an open tender process, taking the value of contracts won by Labor figures since the Albanese government’s election to nearly $160,000.”
First: We have to see whether each contract actually needed open tender given the amount of money involved.
Second: For you Liberals, $160,000 overall is less than peanuts. Your outrage is laughable.