Not a whole lot to report from within what this site regards as its wheelhouse, but past time for a new post nonetheless. Here’s what I’ve got:
• Roy Morgan continues to eke out polling information in an unpredictable fashion on its weekly update videos, the latest of which features a full set of voting intention numbers from polling conducted August 1 to 7. This has Labor’s two-party lead narrowing, apparently from a week previously, from 54-46 to 52.5-47.5, from primary votes of Labor 37% (up one), Coalition 38.5% (up two-and-a-half), Greens 11.5% (down one) and One Nation 3.5% (steady). They also had a second SMS poll of Victorian voting intention which I’ll cover in a state-specific poll later this week.
• US pollster Morning Consult’s tracking poll of global leaders’ domestic approval records little change in Anthony Albanese’s numbers – his approval rating of 58% is unchanged on a month ago and his disapproval is up three to 29%.
• The membership of the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters is now settled, with Labor’s Kate Thwaites as chair joined by party colleagues Karen Grogan, Shayne Neumann, Sam Rae and Marielle Smith; former chair James McGrath now deputy chair, joined by Coalition colleagues Darren Chester, Marise Payne and James Stevens; and Larissa Waters continuing to represent the Greens.
My personal favourite Dumbledore quote is probably this one, while giving a pep-talk to Hagrid after the latter is dragged through the mud by the Wizarding World’s equivalent of the Daily Mail:
“My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practicing inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No, he did not! He held his head high and went about his business as usual!
“Of course, I’m not entirely sure he can read, so that may not have been bravery. . . .”
nathsays:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 3:27 pm
Not quite, the quote is about choices.
This is interesting:
Australia needs to catch this wave. And fast!
Barney in Cherating says:
Not quite, the quote is about choices.
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Different quote.
nath,
Do you have the quote, I can’t think of anything like it.
Barney in Cherating says:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 3:51 pm
nath,
Do you have the quote, I can’t think of anything like it.
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Just give me a day to watch all the movies.
Dr Jekyll went looking for the bad (I think with altruistic motives, initially) and then couldn’t escape from his Mr Hyde.
C@tmomma @ #1553 Thursday, August 18th, 2022 – 3:46 pm
$7,500 tax credit at point of purchase for EV buyers, conditions apply (posted yesterday sometime, can’t find now)
Australia needs to catch this wave. And fast!
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We could make EVs and batteries here. Of course it will have to be subsidised by the government/taxpayer. Perhaps some of the big auto makers would like some of our money to come here. Then we can buy Australian made EVs that are more expensive than imported cars. Probably need a tariff too to protect the Australian EV industry.
BREAKING: Remains of two children found in suitcases sold at an auction in New Zealand
So Morrison apologises to Karen and the rest of the Ministers whose portfolios he secretly took over without telling them.
Doesn’t then the parliament and the rest of Australia deserve an apology for this deception?
And if not why not?
This is report
https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/remains-of-two-young-children-in-nz-suitcase-could-have-been-deceased-for-a-number-of-years/news-story/6ac95089a8253293599185c4f6639dd7
EV recharging facilities are popping up in supermarket car parks around here.
nath @ #1557 Thursday, August 18th, 2022 – 4:08 pm
I’d prefer we subsidise more clean energy infrastructure and less football club vanity projects.
Context isn’t the same
In 2014 it was obvious Labor was going to win election as Liberals ran a minority government for previous 2 years. After much talk the contract for East West Link was signed days before the election with massive payout compensation if project was cancelled. Contract was cancelled as Dan Andrew’s said he would and contractors given choice of compensation as per contract or payment for work done already. Contractors didn’t choose compensation.
Dan Andrews has promised the suburban rail loop since forever which has massive appeal to Monash university alumni who had to navigate slow & expensive public transport or learn to hitch hike. Labor has a decisive lead in the opinion polls and Scott Morrison is the gift Matt Guy can do without
My hairiest efforts were hitch hiking in Argentina and Southern Africa, ballsiest was across the Nullarbor in 3 lifts in 3 days
Busselton to Northam
Northam to Ballarat
Ballarat to Beaumaris
shellbell @ #1542 Thursday, August 18th, 2022 – 3:23 pm
Lovely story, the whole ethos. Who knew? The waiter I presume.
Whoever it was (Upnorth?) who said earlier that PB desperately needs some new polling to discuss was on the money.
The PB trolls are beginning to eat their own.
‘Casino Car Park says:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 11:54 am
BW@ repeatedly
You seem ever willing to spew forth on a topic you appear to know fuck all about. You seek only to offend, proud of your ignorance just like a troll. Your continued use of racial slurs and sly insults is all the evidence needed to expose you as someone who enjoys causing offence to others.
You clearly do not wish to discuss or listen you just want to shout and froth, good luck with that. I am sure you will convince someone that hatred and it’s repetition is the path to understanding.
I have previously enjoyed your posts, you have a broad knowledge and we share some areas of interest on which you are very well informed, environmental science for example.
You also appear to have good knowledge of military matters of which I know almost nothing. I have read your posts with avid interest even scrolling back through a days posts to read yours. I have been a lurker here for many years. I was learning from you.
Please listen to me, calling me comrade, slyly implying that I am an advocate for the Chinese Communist Party or directing a post containing derogatory epithets at me is genuinely hurtful.
Of course if you do that in a post not directed at me I have no substantive objection, go right ahead. I previously requested a courtesy, that was denied and I am fine with that.’
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This does seem rather OTT.
CCP (strange coincidence!) reckons he is not a member of the CCP so I will desist from calling him a capital C Comrade. Apart from that this post is, IMO, a genuinely abusive rant at many levels.
Oddly enough, CCP has yet to engage on any of the substantive matters I have raised. For example, CCP has studiously avoided the fact of the CCP’s brutal role in generating China’s bizarre demographic pyramid. I am sure that CCP will enlighten us on that matter because we are, according to CCP, ignorant on the matter.
Over to you, CCP.
Tin Ear?
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2022/aug/18/scott-morrison-david-hurley-governor-general-anthony-albanese-indigenous-voice-australian-politics-climate-emissions-industry?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-62fdbbae8f083ef020e6fb85#block-62fdbbae8f083ef020e6fb85
It used to be fun engaging with Boerwar.
🙁
Rex Douglas @ #1570 Thursday, August 18th, 2022 – 4:35 pm
Do you also enjoy banging your head against the wall?
I’m pretty sure that the quote Barney uses is the one you’re thinking about, nath.
David Pope – oh no! And note the two-faced bust!
I see Rowe used a feature of a recent winner of ‘world’s ugliest dog’ in his SfM depiction.
Nice pickup, poroti!
I think I will ask Rowe on Twitter.
Boerwar at 4.31 pm
Were you referring to this item on the Guardian blog (long quote follows, from your link)?
“Voice to parliament may be ‘coercive’: John Howard
Paul Karp
The former prime minister, John Howard, has spoken at the Canberra writers festival about the voice to parliament, warning it may be “coercive” and criticising Anthony Albanese for a lack of detail.
Howard told the event at the National Press Club:
I haven’t got a completely settled view on this. I’m following the debate and I would like to have – horror of horrors – more information … but anything that I think has the potential for division, has the potential for establishing a body that is seen as exercising, coercive influence on the government.
Bear in mind that the prime minister has said some very contradictory things about this, although he’s got a lot of credit for what he said at the Garma festival. He said on the one hand, very simple language, you know, ‘nothing to see over here’. Then in one of the interviews he gave to David Spears … he made the comment that it would be a ‘very brave government that would ignore the recommendation from this body’. Now, if that’s his opinion, then he must deep down, see more to this than ‘nothing to see over there’. And I’m a little confused.
Howard suggested the voice could be “trialled in legislation” before constitutional entrenchment. He said the government is “hell-bent” on a referendum first.
Howard also made a version of the argument that somehow a Voice will harm practical action:
There are a lot of people who think that we if we expend all of our emotional energy and debate on the voice and when that’s over irrespective of what the outcome is, there’ll be a feeling in the community that ‘well, we’ve dealt with Indigenous affairs’, let’s get onto something else’. But as people like Jacinta Price has said the glaring challenge in Indigenous affairs, is to do something about the deprivation of Indigenous people in particularly, but not only the Northern Territory.
It’s hard to understand why people would conclude Indigenous affairs is done and dusted if the outcome of the referendum is a constitutionally entrenched body to advocate for Indigenous people. But that’s his logic.”
As a politician Howard was “tricky” (the Shane Stone dossier early in 2001), and obviously deceitful (Daryl Melham once nicknamed him “Mr Never Ever” due to the GST). His main characteristics were an aptitude for division and for thuggery, especially in Indigenous affairs. A few weeks before the 2007 election, when I happened to meet Pat Dodson in a departure lounge at Melbourne Airport, he said, very deliberately, that Howard was a “thug”, i.e. a politician who relied on coercive control.
So far, the two faces of the No campaign on the Voice are Hanson, who appeals at most to between 5 to 10 per cent of the electorate (depending on the seat and state), and Howard. As somebody noted, the Libs lost all bar one of the seats that Howard campaigned in at the May election. Fear him not. He will probably not now appeal to the ignorant young North Shore men who said, on a train in early 1995, that they would be voting for Howard because “he’s never lost an election”, oblivious of 1987. While Hawke was limping a bit in 1990, his tally was 4 – 0; Howard got 4 in a row, ending with 4 – 2.
Only corporate lobbyists and commercial news media are allowed to be ‘coercive’ influences on the Govt.
Dr Doolittle,
This is where Howard is being especially ‘tricky’:
Howard suggested the voice could be “trialled in legislation” before constitutional entrenchment.
And you know what is the difference between legislation and being put in the Constitution?
Legislation can be repealed by the next government of a different political stripe. If it’s in the Constitution there it stays until a referendum removes it.
Dr D
Abbott and Hanson have come out strongly against. Turnbull reasonably strongly for… although that may not be much help. Bandt and Thorpe muddied the waters but seem to have realized that they were playing the wrong game. Pearson is supportive. Howard has never forgiven Indigenous people for turning their backs on him and has a history of fucking them over. Dutton seems to be keeping his options open. Albanese, Dodson and Burney seem to be intent on keeping people inside the tent by being flexible. A lot of water to go under the bridge before it gets to taws…
Cat at 6.06 pm
Note Howard’s main argument is: “Albo is rushing things”. Some historical details will disprove that. Jacinta Price does not have the gravitas or celebrity status to lead the No campaign. ProMo would flop now if he tried to, so much so that any expression of interest from him in that role would be rejected. There’s nobody on the LNP front bench who could do it, except for Dutton, and of course for Barnaby.
Linda Burney got all state governments on board supporting the Voice the other day. Dutton would probably like to oppose it, given his public denigration of the Apology in 2008, but Pearson may yet convince him that doing so would involve a big risk for him, that of being labelled yesterday’s man.
Dr D
Littleproud is a sleeper. He has PHON, UA and the Shooters and Fishers on his right flank.
Dutton has probably noted that the majority of Australians, as polled, support the Voice.
Dr Doolittle
“Dutton would probably like to oppose it, given his public denigration of the Apology in 2008”
As I’ve noted before, this presents something of a conundrum for Dutton who says he now regrets the above. If that’s so, he should logically now support the Voice otherwise he risks being tarred as consistently anti-indigenous, at the very least in terms of recognition, thereby belying any claim to being a unifying leader.
I suspect Dutton will hold ground for as long as possible on the basis of wanting more detail thereby allowing him to test the waters before being forced into a decision.
Cronus -@ 6.28
Good post, IMO.
Dr Doolittle,
Note Howard’s main argument is: “Albo is rushing things”.
This is a common trope amongst those who wish to delay and derail. It worked for 10 years wrt dealing with Climate Change, actually since the 1970s if we are being strictly historical, though the Fossil Fuel Anti Action movement took time to gather momentum, but this ‘it’s being rushed’ trope absolutely is denying the over 200 years of history and abuse of Indigenous Australians that they are finally being given the opportunity to rectify by having their Voice included in the Constitution.
Dr Doolittle,
Did you see the footage of PM Albanese in the Torres Strait today? He’s just getting on with it. He’s not letting twerps and naysayers break his stride. 🙂
An earlier news segment on Ch9 about a rich guy arrested for robbing a servo had a lawyer named Robert Candelori. I wonder if that’s the same Robert Candelori who sometimes comments here as Generic Person?
Barney in Cherating:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 2:41 pm
Quite right. Albanese has directed solicitor-general Donaghue to inquire into the legality of the multiple ministries’ fiasco. Until it’s his inquiries are complete, Albanese should hold fire.
Mr Candelori was associated with a restaurant, I believe.
“So I made a mistake. Big deal. But you know what is a bigger deal? The creepy way you keep my posts in a file that you possess for the sole purpose of attempting to humiliate me.’
Has anyone else noticed that Crankmomma makes this claim about just everybody who criticizes her? Seriously unhinged!
It must be him.
https://mcgirrassoc.com/news-1/robert-candelori-named-one-of-sydneys-best-young-criminal-lawyers
Mavis says:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:38 pm
Barney in Cherating:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 2:41 pm
“Quite right. Albanese has directed solicitor-general Donaghue to inquire into the legality of the multiple ministries’ fiasco. Until it’s his inquiries are complete, Albanese should hold fire.”
Agreed Mavis, any time is still festering time for both Morrison and the Coalition so no need to unnecessarily rush things, due process will work just fine and will be difficult for opponents to criticise.
C@tmomma says:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:34 pm
Dr Doolittle,
“Did you see the footage of PM Albanese in the Torres Strait today? He’s just getting on with it. He’s not letting twerps and naysayers break his stride. ”
Agreed C@T, this has gone on for far too many years now, the time has come, enough with the excuses, just do it (attribution to Nike).
Cronus:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:28 pm
Initially, Dutton, at least implicitly, supported Morrison’s power grab until that is Bolt & Kenny criticised him. A day is a long time in politics. Now he’s changed his tune, the upshot of which is that Dutton’s very much guided by the opinions of Sky News After Dark. My guess is that he will not support the Voice.
clem attlee:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:42 pm
Your argument falls flat when you refer to cat as “Crankmomma”, analogous to referring to you as Winston.
clem attlee @ #1437 Thursday, August 18th, 2022 – 6:42 pm
You left out the bit where I acknowledged the way that nath found it out and moved on.
Oh, and have you noticed the way that you love to belittle me by not using my correct nom? Others have. And you’re a teacher!?!
Mavis says:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:52 pm
Cronus:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:28 pm
“Initially, Dutton, at least implicitly, supported Morrison’s power grab until that is Bolt & Kenny criticised him. A day is a long time in politics. Now he’s changed his tune, the upshot of which is that Dutton’s very much guided by the opinions of Sky News After Dark. My guess is that he will not support the Voice”
Interesting point Mavis, and I did make the mistake of assuming Dutton had a reputation to uphold (facepalm). He doesn’t, therefore ultimately he will be guided by expediency.
C@tmommasays:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:34 pm
Dr Doolittle,
Did you see the footage of PM Albanese in the Torres Strait today? He’s just getting on with it. He’s not letting twerps and naysayers break his stride.
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Had the akubra on again I see.
News from Ukraine:
Here’s a round-up of all the latest from the conflict.
The Ukrainian military said at least 12 Russian were killed in a strike on a base in the occupied city of Nova Kakhovka. Footage posted to Telegram by the State Border Guard Service showed numerous burnt-out trucks, collapsed buildings, and debris.
Also in occupied southern Ukraine, the mayor of the city of Melitopol said explosions were heard near a Russian command centre. Ivan Fedorov said that a “loud explosion rang out near the enemy’s lair” in the centre of the city.
The top official in Russian-annexed Crimea has claimed the FSB security service has broken up what he described as a six-person terrorist cell of a banned Islamist group. It followed a series of strikes on Russian bases and other infrastructure across the region which Russia has sought to blame on “sabotage”.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has told Ukrainians living in Crimea to avoid Russia military bases following the strikes. “Do not approach the military objects of the Russian army,” he said in his latest video address, adding that they might also explode because of “bungling”.
Ukrainian defence minister Oleksii Reznikov has said that, contrary to Russian claims, Ukraine has not lost any of the Himars rocket launchers provided to it by the US. Since the start of the conflict, Ukraine has received at least 20 of the US-made launchers, and has used them to attack Russian ammunition depots, command posts, and air defences. Russia has repeatedly claimed to have destroyed a number of the systems.
The mayor of the village of Verkhnyo Rogachytsk in the Kherson region has been kidnapped, according to the deputy chair of the regional council. Yuri Sobolevsky said Svitlana Ivanivna was taken from her home at around 11am on Tuesday.
A Russian soldier has become one of just a handful to speak out publicly against the war in Ukraine. Speaking to the Guardian, Pavel Filatyev, who fled Russia this week after publishing a 141-page account of his time fighting as part of a paratrooper unit, said: “I don’t see justice in this war. I don’t see truth here.”
Four more vessels carrying agricultural products have sailed from ports in Ukraine. Turkish state media said the ships departed Odesa and Chernomorsk on Wednesday morning carrying sunflower meal, sunflower oil and corn, it said. They are the latest vessels to leave Ukraine under the terms of a grain export deal agreed between the UN, Ukraine, Turkey and Russia last month.
UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres is in Lviv to review the deal in talks with the Ukrainian and Turkish presidents. The three will also discuss “the need for a political solution to this conflict” and the situation at the Russian-controlled Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, a UN spokesperson said.
Polish Deputy Foreign Minister Marcin Przydacz has criticised German Chancellor Olaf Scholz for his opposition to a proposal to ban all Russian nationals from the European Union. Asked about the comments, Przydacz said: “
did not read all those reports about the enormous support for Vladimir Putin’s policy among ordinary Russians, maybe he did not see all the videos in which people gather with the letter Z.”
Russia has appointed a new commander for its Black Sea fleet, according to Russian state media. Vice-Admiral Viktor Sokolov is said to have been presented to a meeting of the fleet’s most senior figures in the Sevastopol in Crimea. The previous commander of the fleet, Igor Osipov, is thought to have been removed following the sinking of its flagship, the Moskva, in April.
(Per The Guardian)
“ But while eschewing scrutiny, Morrison also wanted to have the story of his prime ministership told in a way that would put him in the best light. So he gave extensive co-operation for the book Plagued, written by Simon Benson and Geoff Chambers, journalists from The Australian. Morrison had a long and close relationship with Benson.”
Morrison had a long and close relationship with Benson, indeed. It’s not like that’s any revelation given what Benson has regularly dished up purporting to be journalism.
https://theconversation.com/view-from-the-hill-morrison-reverts-to-type-in-an-unconvincing-defence-188911
Taylormadesays:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 7:11 pm
C@tmommasays:
Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:34 pm
Dr Doolittle,
Did you see the footage of PM Albanese in the Torres Strait today? He’s just getting on with it. He’s not letting twerps and naysayers break his stride.
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Had the akubra on again I see.
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Finally an accurate observation (albeit non intellectual) by you.
Was the akubra taylored with rabbit fur?