All the news that’s fit to print

Poll news, electorate news, preference news and more. Twenty-three days to go …

No shortage of news around the place – starting with polling and the general state of the horse race:

Samantha Maiden at news.com.au reports on Redbridge Group seat polls conducted for Equality Australia showing independent candidate Allegra Spender leading Liberal member Dave Sharma by 53-47 in Wentworth, and Labor’s Andrew Charlton leading Liberal candidate Maria Kovicic by 55-45 in Parramatta, held by retiring Labor member Julie Owens on a 3.5% margin. Primary votes in Wentworth, after exclusion of 4.3% undecided, are Dave Sharma 38%, Allegra Spender 25%, Labor 17%, Greens 7% and United Australia Party 7% (the latter have been coming in a little high in some of these seat polls for mine); in Parramatta, after exclusion of 11.5% undecided, it’s Andrew Charlton 37%, Maria Kovacic 30%, Greens 12%, and the United Australia Party and Liberal Democrats on 8% apiece. Equality Australia is keep to emphasise findings that 67% in Wentworth strongly agree that “trans people deserve the same rights and protections as other Australians” and 62% in Parramatta strongly agree that schools should not be allowed to expel students for being transgender, although the former question especially rather soft-pedals the issue. LGBTIQ+ equality and transgender participation in women’s sports were ranked dead last in both electorates as “vote determining issues”. No indication is provided as to sample sizes or field work dates.

Further results from the Ipsos poll published in Tuesday’s Financial Review that previously escaped my notice: Scott Morrison and Anthony Albanese were both deemed competent by 42%, Morrison led on having a clear vision by 41% to 37% and a firm grasp of economic policy by 48% to 31%, and Albanese led on having the confidence of his party by 52% to 44% and being trustworthy by 41% to 30%. Forty-two per cent expected Labor to win the election compared with 34% for the Coalition.

• Two sophisticated new forecast models have been launched over the past week. That of Armarium Interreta “combines voting-intention polling with a sprinkle of leadership approval polling and economic fundamentals” and factors in extra uncertainty when the pollsters are herding, as they certainly did in 2019 but appear not to be this time. It currently rates Labor a 60% chance of a majority and the Coalition 13%. Australian Election Forecasts is entirely poll-based and features probability estimates for each electorate, including their chances of being won by independents or minor parties. It has a 67.2% chance of a Labor majority and 13.1% for the Coalition.

Kos Samaras of Redbridge Group observes that demographic trends raise concerns for Labor in Greenway, which combines established Labor-voting territory around Seven Hills in the south with newly developing suburbs in the north. The increase in the electorate’s enrolment from 110,343 to 119,941 since the 2019 election will have been concentrated in the latter area: Samaras notes the median house price here is around $800,000, which is around $250,000 higher than comparable houses in Melbourne growth corridors that have been strengthening for Labor.

• I had a piece in Crikey yesterday that looked booth deep and wide at the One Nation and United Australia Party vote, the conclusions of which I riffed off during an appearance on ABC TV’s Afternoon Briefing program yesterday, which also featured Ben Oquist of the Australia Institute.

Local-level brush fires and controversies:

Video has emerged of Simon Kennedy, the Liberal candidate for Bennelong, providing obliging responses to members of anti-vaxxer group A Stand in the Park when asked if he would cross the floor to oppose vaccination mandates and breaches of “your community’s individual freedoms”. Kennedy responded with a statement to the Age/Herald saying he was “a strong supporter of the COVID vaccination effort”.

• A candidates forum in Kooyong was held last night without the participation of incumbent Josh Frydenberg, who objected to it being staged by climate advocacy group Lighter Footprints. However, Frydenberg and independent candidate Monique Ryan eventually agreed to Ryan’s proposal for a one-on-one town hall-style debate on Sky News after Ryan turned down a proposal for a mid-afternoon debate broadcast live on the Nine Network, which had been pursued by both Frydenberg and Nine political reporter Chris Uhlmann.

• Writing in the Age/Herald, Chris Uhlmann of the Nine Network quotes a Labor strategist saying the Katherine Deves controversy is playing “90/10 in Deves’ favour” in “the suburbs and the regions”. Lanai Scarr of The West Australian goes further, reporting that Liberal internal polling defies conventional wisdom (and the Redbridge polling noted above) in showing the issue is even playing well in Warringah.

Preferences:

Matthew Denholm of The Australian reports that One Nation will retaliate against a Liberal decision to put the party behind the United Australia Party, the Liberal Democrats and the Jacqui Lambie Network on its Tasmanian Senate how-to-vote card, by directing preferences to Labor ahead of selected Liberals deemed not conservative enough. These are understood to include Bridget Archer in Bass and Warren Entsch in Leichhardt.

• In the Australian Capital Territory Senate race, Labor has announced it will put independent David Pocock second on its how-to-vote card. This is presumably based on a calculation that Liberal Senator Zed Seselja is more likely to lose if the last count comes down to him and Pocock rather than the Greens, since Pocock is likely to receive the larger share of preferences. Labor’s Katy Gallagher will be immediately elected in the likely event that she polls more than a third of the vote, having polled 39.3% in 2019 – direction of preferences to Pocock will maximise the share he receives of the surplus.

Campaign meat and potatoes:

• Nikki Savva writes in the Age/Herald today that “Labor insiders tracking Morrison’s movements are intrigued by his visits to seats they reckon he has no hope of winning”, although Savva retorts that “maybe he knows something they don’t, particularly around the Hunter in NSW”. A review of the leaders’ movements by David Tanner of The Australian notes both Scott Morrison and Anthony Albanese have spent slightly more time in the other side’s seats than their own, a fact more striking in Morrison’s case. Only Bass and Gilmore have been visited by both. Morrison has spread himself evenly across the country, but has been largely absent from the inner urban seats where the Liberals are threatened by teal independents, both personally and in party advertising. Nearly half the seats visited by Albanese have been in Queensland, but notably not central Queensland, where Labor appears pessimistic about recovering the competitiveness it lost in 2019. Jacob Greber of the Financial Review notes that Barnaby Joyce has twice visited the Victorian rural seat of Nicholls, where the retirement of Nationals member Damian Drum has the party fearing defeat at the hands of independent Rob Priestly.

• The Age/Herald calculates that the seats most comprehensively pork-barrelled by the Coalition have been Boothby, McEwen and Robertson, which have respectively been targeted with a $2.2 billion upgrade of Adelaide’s north-south road corridor, a $1.2 billion freight hub and $1 billion in rail and road upgrades. The biggest target of Labor’s more modest promises has been Longman, with Boothby in fourth place – the others in the top five are the Labor-held marginals of Corangamite, McEwen and Gilmore.

Nick Evershed of The Guardian has “written some code that takes the records of Google and YouTube advertising, then converts the geotargeting data into electorates based on the proportion of the electorate’s population covered”. This has yielded data and interactive maps on where the major parties are geo-targeting their ads, including a specific breakout for a Scott Morrison “why I love Australia” ad that presumably plays better in some areas than others.

• The Australian Electoral Commission will not be running voting stations at around three-quarters of the foreign missions where it been offered in the past due to COVID-19 restrictions, requiring those living there to cast postal votes. This leaves 17 overseas countries where in-person voting will be available, which are listed on the AEC website. The Financial Review reports the move “has infuriated some expatriates in cities that will be affected, including Singapore, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Toronto and Vancouver”.

State affairs:

• The result for the South Australian Legislative Council has been finalised, producing the anticipated result of five seats for Labor, four for the Liberals and one each for the Greens and One Nation. Including the seats carrying over from the last election, this puts Labor on nine, Liberal on eight, the Greens and SA-Best on two each and One Nation on one. The full distribution of preferences doesn’t seem to be on the Electoral Commission site, but Antony Green offers an analysis of it.

• In Tasmania, Peter Gutwein’s Liberal seat in the Bass electorate will be filled by Simon Wood, who won the recount of ballot papers that elected Gutwein ahead of party rival Greg Kieser by 6633 (61.0%) to 3132 (28.8%), with three non-Liberal candidates on 1116 between them.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. The Treasurer again looking faded and jaded. Defeat will come as some sweet relief.

    But for a moment, as the opportunity to engage in petty politicking arises, his eyes light up, his exhaustion lifts, despair banished as he relishes his chance to sink the slipper.

    Here is a man who has never risen to the office he’s attained, and who, like his boss, never will.

  2. Evan Parsons says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:05 pm
    Beagliboy and UpNorth – kindred spirits lads, the 3 of us must hit the grog one day in an epic way.
    中华人民共和国

    There was talk of a PB knees up the other day in Adelaide. Sort of neutral territory. Peter Gago from Penfolds doing the wines.

    The City of Churches would never be the same. Reckon if Albo wins William starts a new thread and we plan.

    Evan, Beagliboy and I will be the MC’s. William of course head of the Table as is his want.

    I do owe Nath two Crown Lagers as is his want.

    Mavis and GG sitting together. Reminiscing. Boerwar and Lars toasting. Fire-Fox in the corner with his Gunja.

    C@t and Jan-Simon our moral compass.

    Sprocket and dear BK with the latest news, polls totes and odds on which we thrive.

    Bushfire Bill with his quirky views safely ensconced from the main table.

    Aaron Newton can print the name badges.

    We will get Albo and Penny and Peter M. in as speakers. Antony Green will come but be embarrassed at the riches our Dear Leader, William has bestowed on his flock.

    Christopher Pyne and Alexander Downer can clean the vomit from the dunnies as we will rule the roost.

    Many more Bludgers that I don’t have space to add here will Grace us with their presence.

    But there will be three sad lonely empty chairs for Wayne, Bree and Freya.

  3. Rewi says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:35 pm
    The Treasurer again looking faded and jaded. Defeat will come as some sweet relief.

    But for a moment, as the opportunity to engage in petty politicking arises, his eyes light up, his exhaustion lifts, despair banished as he relishes his chance to sink the slipper.

    Here is a man who has never risen to the office he’s attained, and who, like his boss, never will.
    中华人民共和国

    To paraphrase Churchill “A sheep in sheeps’ clothing”.

  4. Dr Fumbles Mcstupidsays:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:16 pm

    Always thought Puberty Blues should have had a SfM character in, some big noting bulling asshole from school who takes credit for others but comes to a sticky end buried on Wanda beach with a chicko roll in his mouth

    SfM is not from the Shire. He grew up in Clovelly and got himself parachuted into the Shire once he got the NSW Liberal Party Executive to can Michael Towke’s preselection. He was also never a rugby league follower, let alone Sharks supporter; that was another of his inventions. Before being parachuted in to the Shire he was a rah rah.

  5. “I can’t really understand the love affair n re Hawke and Keating.

    Sure if you are motivated purely by tribal hate of the Tories the yes it was fun they were winners.

    But lets call a spade a spade, the inconvenient truth is it was a Thatcherite government which is why so many Tories give it the thumbs up.

    Lets have a look at the project in the cold hard light of day because as they say sunlight is the best disinfectant.The list of “achievments” includes but is not limited to

    Cutting real wages via the accord, the transfer of the profit share from labour to capital, using underemployment to control inflation, deindustrialising the economy, the growth of a huge parasitic financial sector, the collapse of the private sector unions , the architects of all of that were Hawke and especially Keating.

    In fact to some degree the Tories of today are Keating’s Frankenstein’s monster. He pushed the centre of gravity in our politics so far to the right that hard line neoliberals suddenly looked kinda mainstream.So boast about their “economic management” if you wish but they were not to my tastes..”

    I think this is pretty fair by any standard that was informed by the GFC or later data. Obviously there would be data and evidence before the GFC, I just don’t think anyone has any excuse in its wake.

    There is a really important question about whether or not the underlying economic reforms of Hawke / Keating / Clinton (I don’t know enough about the UK ) could have led to good outcomes if they had been accompanied by ongoing progressive overlays.

    As just one example if the ACCC had actually ensured we had competitive and fair markets (I’m not sure there is a single competitive market in Australia governed by rules that make it fair as between participants and consumers alike) where would we be?

    But otherwise a fair fair summary.

    In this day an age with all that is wrong you’d have to step back and wonder who decided it was a good and fair idea for all the retirement risk to be borne by individuals while Govts and Companies bear none. Superannuation stops working the second global markets stop working.

    But anyway this place is much to tribal and closed tiny mind to even open this door, I’ll get abuse for weeks for sticking my head in briefly.

  6. Evan Parsons @ #509 Thursday, April 28th, 2022 – 4:00 pm

    Michael Portillo’s margin in Enfield Southgate in 1997 was enormous, Labour winning that seat was a gigantic shock at the time. Remember it well, you can watch the BBC’s entire election night telecast from May 1997 on youtube, all ten parts of it if you’re that keen.

    Wow I didn’t realise his political career was so long ago. Enjoy his train docos though

  7. In the Australian Capital Territory Senate race, Labor has announced it will put independent David Pocock second on its how-to-vote card. This is presumably based on a calculation that Liberal Senator Zed Seselja is more likely to lose if the last count comes down to him and Pocock rather than the Greens, since Pocock is likely to receive the larger share of preferences. Labor’s Katy Gallagher will be immediately elected in the likely event that she polls more than a third of the vote, having polled 39.3% in 2019 – direction of preferences to Pocock will maximise the share he receives of the surplus.

    Excellent decision by Labor.

  8. Pi,

    “And lol at saying tesla just rebranded some other product. ”

    Panasonic shareholders thank you for your custom.

    But on policy, yes agree, mainly.

  9. Dr Fumbles Mcstupid @ #545 Thursday, April 28th, 2022 – 4:29 pm

    Grime says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    Jaeger @ #524 Thursday, April 28th, 2022 – 4:14 pm

    My 2 cents worth is Burleigh Big heads no carbs.Not cheap but you can persuade your diabetic mates to have a skinful without passing out.
    https://www.burleighbrewing.com.au/beer/
    _____________________

    It is expensive, but if you fancy an almost no carb at a decent price, the Brite Blonde at Coles comes in a 0.6g per stubby at about $12 a 6 pack, 36 a slab and the Steersman Blonde at wollies is slightly cheaper but around 1gm.

    I found something called Better Beer, very low carb but about $16 per 6

    Noted for testing purely for medicinal purposes 😉

  10. King OMalley says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:40 pm

    Dr Fumbles Mcstupidsays:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:16 pm

    SfM is not from the Shire. He grew up in Clovelly and got himself parachuted into the Shire once he got the NSW Liberal Party Executive to can Michael Towke’s preselection. He was also never a rugby league follower, let alone Sharks supporter; that was another of his inventions. Before being parachuted in to the Shire he was a rah rah.
    ________________

    You are right, I know a few who have been associated with the Sharks for ever and they now he is a blow in, guess who wont bother turning up to games after May 21

  11. Sportsbet odds on Goldstein: Tim Wilson and Zoe Daniels 1.87 each
    Wentworth:Allegra Spender 1.80, Dave Sharma 1.90
    North Sydney: Trent Zimmerman 1.50, Kyla Tink 2.45
    Kooyong: Frydenberg 1.60, Monique Ryan 2.22

  12. Upnorth says:
    “I always want an extended YouTube version of Goss’ 1989 election night …”

    A night to remember, for sure. The first words of Goss’s victory speech:

    “This is the end of the Bjelke-Petersen era in Queensland!”

    And so it was. Apart from the aberrations of a mid-term turnover following a court-ordered by-election, and the one-term Newman regime, 27 years of Labor governments over the subsequent 32 years.

  13. UpNorth: That is a plan old mate for a Poll Bludger style Labor victory pissup, epic style.
    Gotta invite Lars, Bree, Wayne, Taylormade and Nostradamus for the entertainment element of the evening

  14. The Liberal ad about Labor delivering higher interest rates, higher unemployment, and not a single balanced budget – it won’t be easy under Albanese – running in high rotation on commercial telly in Tasmania.

  15. Yeppoon is full of former QAL/Rio Tinto white collar workers from Gladstone.
    Big potential for Yeppoon if GinaR makes a success of resuscitating GKeppel Island resort

  16. But if the average wage for full time workers is $90,000- PA

    But the average wage overall in $67,000- PA

    What does that tell you?

    Liberals and their figures, hey?

    They walk into it time in memorial

    And that data they use to defend goes straight to the other fact now in the spotlight

    Not only wages but job security

    That Liberal Party defence tells you the overwhelming majority are in part time and casual employment – accepting what they can get as and when

    What did the Pandemic tell us about those employed in Aged Care?

    Remember?

  17. Sceptic,

    King OMalley @ #556 Thursday, April 28th, 2022 – 4:40 pm

    Dr Fumbles Mcstupidsays:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:16 pm

    Always thought Puberty Blues should have had a SfM character in, some big noting bulling asshole from school who takes credit for others but comes to a sticky end buried on Wanda beach with a chicko roll in his mouth

    SfM is not from the Shire. He grew up in Clovelly and got himself parachuted into the Shire once he got the NSW Liberal Party Executive to can Michael Towke’s preselection. He was also never a rugby league follower, let alone Sharks supporter; that was another of his inventions. Before being parachuted in to the Shire he was a rah rah.

    Who lived in The Hills District in Sydney before moving to The Shire.

  18. WeWantPaul @ #558 Thursday, April 28th, 2022 – 4:41 pm

    “I can’t really understand the love affair n re Hawke and Keating.

    Sure if you are motivated purely by tribal hate of the Tories the yes it was fun they were winners.

    But lets call a spade a spade, the inconvenient truth is it was a Thatcherite government which is why so many Tories give it the thumbs up.

    Lets have a look at the project in the cold hard light of day because as they say sunlight is the best disinfectant.The list of “achievments” includes but is not limited to

    Cutting real wages via the accord, the transfer of the profit share from labour to capital, using underemployment to control inflation, deindustrialising the economy, the growth of a huge parasitic financial sector, the collapse of the private sector unions , the architects of all of that were Hawke and especially Keating.

    In fact to some degree the Tories of today are Keating’s Frankenstein’s monster. He pushed the centre of gravity in our politics so far to the right that hard line neoliberals suddenly looked kinda mainstream.So boast about their “economic management” if you wish but they were not to my tastes..”

    I think this is pretty fair by any standard that was informed by the GFC or later data. Obviously there would be data and evidence before the GFC, I just don’t think anyone has any excuse in its wake.

    There is a really important question about whether or not the underlying economic reforms of Hawke / Keating / Clinton (I don’t know enough about the UK ) could have led to good outcomes if they had been accompanied by ongoing progressive overlays.

    As just one example if the ACCC had actually ensured we had competitive and fair markets (I’m not sure there is a single competitive market in Australia governed by rules that make it fair as between participants and consumers alike) where would we be?

    But otherwise a fair fair summary.

    In this day an age with all that is wrong you’d have to step back and wonder who decided it was a good and fair idea for all the retirement risk to be borne by individuals while Govts and Companies bear none. Superannuation stops working the second global markets stop working.

    But anyway this place is much to tribal and closed tiny mind to even open this door, I’ll get abuse for weeks for sticking my head in briefly.

    ‘tribal hate of the Tories’ will do me.

  19. Anyway comrades….had a wonderful afternoon chatting and planning our election night piss up…..gotta go do some deliveries. I dont often post in the evening, unless Newspoll is out. Family time and watching whatever we can find on Netflix….currently a Near future dystopian offering about a world totally frozen over after a climate change solution went horribly wrong in the other direction…..Last of Humanity is on a giant train circling the Earth….its got Sean Bean in it…its not bad its called Snowpiecer.

    Anyway, play nice while I’m gone…..none of that nasty green/alp war shit. 23 odd days till the Liar is gone

  20. “ Gotta invite Lars, Bree, Wayne, Taylormade and Nostradamus for the entertainment element of the evening”

    Steely dan can play guitar. Bree can wander about in his/her fishnets double dipping the condiments whilst repeating ‘Our family built South Australia’ …

  21. Day 23

    Bluey reckons humans are not focused on the important things in life. Some feller has just got into the Guiness Book of Records by stacking 7 M&Ms.

    Other than that, Bluey reckons that today was a drifter. Agendas all over the shop. No momentum. A nothingburger.

    Yet another in the lengthening conga line of ‘problematic’ Liberal candidates. This time Viresh Perera, Liberal candidate for Scullin, thinks there might just be something about a website of his possibly being… uh… illegal.

    Deves seems to have hinted that there some form of connection between Dutto and Voldemort. Bluey reckons she had better watch her back.

    Bluey reckons that the Business Council of Australia is pissed off at Morrison and Joyce. The BCA wants some investment certainty. Every time the BCA reckon they are getting close the Coalition Wackaloons start throwing sand in each others’ eyes. The BCA stepped in yesterday to point out that Morrison was criticizing Labor for what has ALREADY been a funded Coalition program for nine years.

    Bluey reckons that if there is one thing occies do know about, it is buoyancy. We can now add $45 billion worth of frigates that are no damn good, to the $3 billion Taipan Helicopters that were no damn good, to the $5.5 billion worth of subs that were no damn good to $1.3 billion worth of armed drones that were no damn good. With the frigates it seems that (a) the wrong strategic guess was made at the time and (b) any more scope creep and they will turn turtle in Beaufort Scale 3 weather. Bluey reckons he doesn’t care what anyone says. They are too bloody slow. Bluey reckons that having a retired senior members of the officer class peppering away at the Coalition can’t be helping.

    Wowie Zowie. Australians have borrowed $650 billion to buy houses in the past two years. Buey reckons there are bound to be some bad elebenties in that number.

    We all know that the Morrison veneer covers a significant Mr Nasty. Morrison’s personal attack on an ill Albanese is, in Bluey’s view, a sign that the Mr Nasty might not stay in his cage as ignominious defeat looms ever closer.

    If Bluey understand the Coalition, the budget returns on coal and iron ore, the employment figures, the growth rate are not due to international factors but the inflation rate and the interest rate, the national rental crisis, the national debt, and collapsing real wages are Covid’s fault and Putin’s fault. Right. Got it.

    Liu seems to have joined Deves in some form of self-imposed witness protection.

    Has Morrison stitched up a preference deal with Palmer? He said he wasn’t so it is almost certain to happen. Bluey reckons watch this space.

    Bluey reckons that the campaign generally has a sullen, resentful, fearful, and fretful feel to it. Except for the Teals, of course. All care and no responsibility is always the mostest fun.

    What’s the story with Morrison giving Forrest $45 million? For what? Bluey wants to know why he did not get $45 million. There are questions to be answered.

    Score for the day. No change.

    Cumulative score. Morrison 2; Albanese 4 and Joyce .5.

    Bluey notes a bit of over-optimism on the part of Laborites. Fat Lady! Stochastic events! Black Swans Ahoy! Debates!

    Bluey sticks with his occie psephie view that Labor will form government with a small majority.

  22. [mundo says: Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:53 pm
    The Liberal ad about Labor delivering higher interest rates, higher unemployment, and not a single balanced budget]
    Would that gain traction or bounce back onto the lnp?

  23. F*ck.

    Lars Ulrich is 3 years older than me.

    I definitely don’t look half as good…

    Follicles checked out long ago and more than a few extra pounds.

    Got him on height though.

  24. Pisshead Bloke aka Evan says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:52 pm

    UpNorth: That is a plan old mate for a Poll Bludger style Labor victory pissup, epic style.
    Gotta invite Lars, Bree, Wayne, Taylormade and Nostradamus for the entertainment element of the evening
    _________________________

    An excellent plan, and if it was a Liberal Victory you could probably claim it as as a regional development grant for a couple of $million

  25. mundo @ #567 Thursday, April 28th, 2022 – 4:53 pm

    The Liberal ad about Labor delivering higher interest rates, higher unemployment, and not a single balanced budget – it won’t be easy under Albanese – running in high rotation on commercial telly in Tasmania.

    Labor just need to run a short ad after it. ‘Thanks for nothing, Scott’.

    Though it’s a bit rich the Liberals attempting to blame Labor for having to deal with the mess the Coalition created, should Labor win.

  26. Pisshead Bloke aka Evan says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:52 pm
    UpNorth: That is a plan old mate for a Poll Bludger style Labor victory pissup, epic style.
    Gotta invite Lars, Bree, Wayne, Taylormade and Nostradamus for the entertainment element of the evening
    中华人民共和国
    Then I shall pursue post election! Now friends let’s gird our loins and spear some Tories.

  27. King OMalley says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:28 pm
    Bludgings:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:57 pm:

    In a Bayesian estimation, the odds would be adjusted to reflect the past data too.

    I would assume that the betting markets take past campaign performance into account when framing their markets. Typically, the major bookmakers like Sportsbet employ quantitative analysts to develop predictive models that produce probability forecasts. These are then adjusted by a qualitative expert in the relevant field.

    You could argue that the implied probabilities we are seeing here are the distillation of all market intelligence on the event (the efficient market hypothesis). But how efficient this market is we won’t know for sure until after the election!

    I’m not a big fan of that hypothesis. Pricing might be right or it might be wrong, but we have no way of knowing/testing it at any given time. In any case, since risk pricing is about the future, the often unstated factor is the discount rate. What rate/s of discount is/are applied to the probabilities of future results?

    Anyway, I think that means it’s not really a hypothesis. It’s a hunch.

    I guess it’s in the nature of predictions that can never know if they’re accurate until it’s too late to matter.

  28. WWP
    Cutting real wages via the accord, the transfer of the profit share from labour to capital, using underemployment to control inflation, deindustrialising the economy, the growth of a huge parasitic financial sector, the collapse of the private sector unions , the architects of all of that were Hawke and especially Keating.
    ———————————–
    The transfer of profit share from labour to capital has directly benefited millions of Australian workers and those finance sector jobs are well paying jobs and the old manufacturing you dream of so romantically wasn’t that good and was unsustainable.

    Hawke/Keating 3 WWP 0

  29. That Wilson is just a nasty, spiteful, childish, arrogant, entitled, spoiled, devious, arrogant piece of work.

    The best thing the teals have done is make the lazy little entitled liberals in safe seats get out and campaign locally – or in the case of Tim chuck a hissy fit, behave like a dickhead and panic

    At least Labor MPs faced with the green challenge had a bit more dignity.

  30. Tim Wilson preferencing One Nation – well, he used to run the IPA after all, a moderate he is not.
    Him losing on election night would be worth 2 beers at least, he is what I call an irritating tool.

  31. Voodoo Blues says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:26 pm
    ………..
    You clearly don’t know what ‘Thatcherite’ means.
    It’s not a synonym for ‘I don’t like it’, anymore than the word ‘purple’ or ‘aardvark’.
    If you want to mount a successful argument, words have to have more than emotional resonance.

  32. Hey, where’s the edit button gone?

    I reckon if Tim Wison doesnt turn up to community events they should just bring out a volley ball with a face on for his seat

  33. D says:
    “Yeppoon is full of former QAL/Rio Tinto white collar workers from Gladstone.”

    … and my 96 year old uncle, Labor life member.

  34. “The transfer of profit share from labour to capital has directly benefited millions of Australian workers and those finance sector jobs are well paying jobs and the old manufacturing you dream of so romantically wasn’t that good and was unsustainable.

    Hawke/Keating 3 WWP 0”

    You cite about the only stat that could back you up on your ridiculous claim, one you just made up. How very LNP of you.

    Why don’t you list some areas where things are better. I’ll list some of the disasters.

    Education: moved effectively from a fairly fair merit based system that was taxpayer funded upfront and recovered later in taxes, to a wallet based systems, education is incredibly expensive and increasingly for the wealthy rather than the smart.

    Housing affordability: even in your insane fantasy the reality of this must have leaked through to you.

    I’ll hand over to you for a bit.

  35. ltep

    Preferences are, by definition, an indication of whose policies you prefer.

    Wilson and Frydenburg prefer the ‘It’s OK to be white’ policies of One Nation to the Federal ICAC, climate change action policies of their independent challengers.

  36. Pisshead Bloke aka Evan says:
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 5:06 pm
    Tim Wilson preferencing One Nation – well, he used to run the IPA after all, a moderate he is not.
    Him losing on election night would be worth 2 beers at least, he is what I call an irritating tool.

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    I had a look at his how to vote. He certainly shows his preferences but it’s all over the place from a simplicity point of view. The ridiculous thing is that if his preferences were required to be distributed he would be cactus anyway.

  37. Rewi
    Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:35 pm
    The Treasurer again looking faded and jaded. Defeat will come as some sweet relief….
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    Any time I see Lil Joshy pop his head up on t.v my brain automatically is registering his face as Richard Nixon.

    I can’t be blamed surely…Sweaty, teary, facial hair shadow and that’s just his look. Then he starts speaking…

  38. “You clearly don’t know what ‘Thatcherite’ means.
    It’s not a synonym for ‘I don’t like it’, anymore than the word ‘purple’ or ‘aardvark’.
    If you want to mount a successful argument, words have to have more than emotional resonance.’

    To summarise: you are comfortable with raging tribal hate without logic or thought as well.

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