Roy Morgan has become the second pollster to emerge from the summer break, maintaining its recent form in crediting Labor with a 56-44 two-party lead, out from 55.5-44.5 in the previous poll. As before, this is souped up by a much stronger flow of respondent-allocated preferences than Labor managed at the 2019 election. Both the Coalition and Labor are steady on the primary vote, at 34.5% and 37% respectively, with the Greens up half a point to 12% (strong support for the Greens being another feature of the Morgan series). One Nation is down a point to 3% and Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party is steady on all of half of a point, whereas it managed 3.4% in 2019.
The “previous poll” used for the basis of comparison here wasn’t actually published at the time, as noted by a keen-eyed observer on Twitter. Morgan’s last published poll from last year was from the last weekend in November and the first weekend in December, whereas the results tables on the website include a further result for the two weeks subsequently.
The state two-party breakdowns credit Labor with leads of 58-42 in New South Wales, a swing of around 10%; 59-41 in Victoria, a swing of around 6%; 51-49 in Western Australia, a swing of around 6.5%; 60.5-39.5 in South Australia, a swing of around 10%; and 60.5-39.5 in Tasmania, a swing of around 4.5%. However, the poll has the Coalition ahead 51.5-48.5 in Queensland, which is still a swing to Labor of around 7%. Whereas Morgan’s past polling combined results from two weekends, here we are told that polling was conducted between January 4 and 16.
That flag is a bit contradictory- is it a full-sun day, or a night time sky….or both at once?
And the federation star is a nothing that should be tossed.
The 555 carat “Enigma” carbonado was clearly marketed at someone else – and would have been impractical for a ring. Trolling the media? Priceless.
I’ve now got a 7 in front of my age. I do not expect to see a new flag or the Republic.
Making them the issue is just another excuse to do nothing, it is just a deflection. But the reality is they are not the issue, whether they exist or not, it is and has always been an issue for those with the power to actually do something.
Like if a horrific fire event or flood happens, those who want to deny climate change will always say “now is not the time to talk about climate change” as it is always their game to deflect, or blame something else like the non existent “green” stopping burn offs. They will always find an excuses.
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The idea of Nation was advanced in order to weaken and then supplant the Imperialist order. Nationalist revolutions in Italy and Germany, for example, were aimed at unifications of nations and their separation from the Empire.
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There’s nations and nations. You are going arse about.
The nation state, e.g. France, Spain or the one you support “the United kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” are nations that have resulted from the domination of one local state over surrounding states… it is an example of imperialism.
Undertaken to increase the power and wealth of the dominant state. It invariably results in (often violent) suppression of local languages and culture and often with a stifling local economic and political development.
Where are the once nations of Burgundy, Breizh, Languedoc, Scotland, Cymru, Euskal Herria, Catalunya etc.
When Morrison introduced the poem he simply referred to its having been written by a pupil from a school in the Sutherland Shire. I wonder whether originally he had agreed with the daughter to quote it but arranged to leave its writer unidentified, but parental pride (hubris?)got the better of him.
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EVERYTHING that man does has a political and image angle!
Flags serve no constructive function. They attract scoundrels like Morrison. They become a substitute for rational thought. They become a sort of symbolic shorthand for shed loads of bullshit. Get rid of them, I say.
Thanks for the lecture briefly. Of course, the post you quote-mined there to make me look naive and stupid expressed plenty of caution, as have many of my other posts on the topic.
And this is not the first time you’ve quote-mined a post of mine to make it look like I made a different point you can easily tear down either.
I have been mildly irritated all day by all the talk of cere-moanies. Ah well.
I like the Aboriginal flag with the Southern Cross. I agree that we can ditch the Federal Star. We’d need the permission of the First Peoples (through their Voice if we ever get that set up) to use their flag in this way.
Probably easier just to get rid of Morrison and keep the flag.
The very best thing about the ACT flag is that there are few in the ACT who can think of what is on the flag and even fewer who care.
”Probably easier just to get rid of Morrison and keep the flag.”
That will definitely do for starters.
BW,
Do you hear the people shrug…….
Flags were once functional. They kept armies concentrated. They enabled ships in muddled fleets to identify sides. And so on and so forth.
Battles and wars are now mainly fought at a distance which makes flags redundant.
Rakali says:
Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 6:09 pm
1. You suggested that the idea of “nation” had imperialist undertones. I disagreed. The idea of “Nation” was promoted in order to weaken Empires. The object of the nationalists was to weaken supra-national institutions. It still is.
2. I’m not a supporter of English dominions anywhere, either in the British Isles or elsewhere.
3. But I’m not a nationalist. Too many lives have been sacrificed to the puerile notion that the differences between people are worth fighting over. This idea does little more than create enmity where none should exist.
GG
I bet that if asked the next 1000 ACT adults what was on the ACT flag, not one of them would be able to itemize the symbols or what they mean.
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Have you noticed in the official Australia Day celebrations in Canberra, Scott Morrison has pushed the Governor General aside, taking the official salute that normally the Head of State (or her representative) would take. Same at the Aust of the Year awards – all Morrison, no GG.
It is obvious that the Australian flag should have a cat on it (Trim) and the southern cross.
There are dozens of states which have a legitimate geographic claim on the Crux constellation.
SK,
If nath was in charge it would be a chicken on a yellow flag.
Ch 7 news split the Australia/Invasion Day activities. First the happy BBQers and RAAF then some time later in the bulletin the “protest march”. Stokes obviously doesn’t want his reporters any closer to Indigenous people than pointing a camera at them from a distance.
Morrison also scored some video footage, thankfully without the poetry but showing Albo not shaking hands.
BW,
Are we just a crux in search of a problem?
Wat Tyler says:
Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 6:12 pm
Thanks for the lecture briefly. Of course, the post you quote-mined there to make me look naive and stupid expressed plenty of caution, as have many of my other posts on the topic.
I was not concerned with whether you look naive and stupid. I think it’s a good idea to look at the numbers.
FFS, Labor’s record of wins from Opposition since 1949 is less than 1/6. We have won from Opposition since 1917 just 4 times, having started from behind the Tories well more than two dozen times.
Elections are not a running race, in which each team starts at the same line , at the same time and runs according to the same rules. There is an implicit handicap/advantage each time.
My point really is very simple: we are not winning. The race has not yet started. When it does start, we will be behind from the outset. We will have to catch up and over-take the LNP in a mad sprint if we are to win.
Greensborough Growler @ #2918 Wednesday, January 26th, 2022 – 6:20 pm
The GG is probably still recovering from COVID-19 at Admiralty House, Sydney.
There are dozens of states which have a legitimate geographic claim on the Crux constellation.
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Not if you make the flag out of sandpaper.
And put Trim on it.
You could have Trim chasing a dunnart to make it really Aussie.
Boerwar @ #2890 Wednesday, January 26th, 2022 – 4:50 pm
There’s no dilemma. Not on the Grace/Greta side. The people demanding meek deference are ethically in the wrong. For putting that demand, and for the entirely childish way they react when they don’t get it.
Rewarding them by giving in only encourages them to keep doing the same stupid shit and legitimizes their tactics. Grace and Greta’s only prudent option is to do what they’ve done. Proceed with honesty, keep their integrity, and let the instigators instigate.
The only way to win the game is not to play. Eventually the culture warriors get bored. They lack sustain because they don’t actually care about their culture war or attaining any particular outcome. They’re just out to stir shit for the sake of stirring shit. They go away as soon as it stops being fun.
Anyone with real issues to fight for will easily outlast them.
The Australian flag could have a bar for every useless war fought since 1901. It could have a star for every species rendered extinct since 1901. It could have a cumulative CO2 emissions graph. It could have a pool of red blood to symbolize the invasion. It should have two patches of white: one for salinization and the other the GBR. It should have a stump to symbolize the tens of millions of hectares cleared since the invasion. It should have a hole to represent the cumulative impact of mines that have not been rehabilitated. It should have a symbol for 80 cents in the dollar to represent two hundred years of wage inequity for women.
And so on and so forth. The problem with flags is that they are short hand for complexity and that they are routinely cleansed.
The bastards wrecking the joint always wrap themselves in the flag.
Get rid of the flag, I say. It is a barrier to the truth. Nothing more, nothing less.
SK
A flag made of sandpaper?
Now THAT is creative.
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Nationalism = the puerile notion that the differences between people are worth fighting over?
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Talk about a straw man.
Self-determination is not “nationalism”. It is a pre-requisite for personal dignity and freedom.
As a Sydney lad I am really enjoying thanking all the local South Australians for celebrating NSW day.
(yes yes, I know – that is officially the 7th of February but it is also Mass Orgy Day so lets not complicate matters).
ar
I appreciate your post. I put it to you that the vast majority of Australians have long since lost track of the public policy changes that Thunberg supports.
Her public pronouncements are, IMO, simplistic.
Climate policy is not simple. It is complex.
I was heartened by Albanese’s explication of Labor’s climate policies during his Press Club Speech the other day.
Simon Katich @ #2931 Wednesday, January 26th, 2022 – 6:02 pm
And I am grateful to NSW for holding a public holiday on SA’s day last year 😉
Flags were a big thing during Hitler’s Berlin Olympics.
They are a big thing for the reprise: Xi’s Beijing Olympics.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202201/1246928.shtml
The ACT flag – a Southern Cross on the Left third (white on blue) with the remainder being a yellow background with what looks like a pair of dodos (blue and white) holding up a shield with a heraldic device – crossed swords, a crown, a castle and a flower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Australian_Capital_Territory#/media/File:Flag_of_the_Australian_Capital_Territory.svg
Rakali says:
Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 6:30 pm
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Nationalism = the puerile notion that the differences between people are worth fighting over?
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Talk about a straw man.
Not at all. I’m not the nationalist here. I have cosmopolitan inclinations. I don’t subscribe to the elitism that’s been implicit in so much nationalist drumming and marching.
I suspect the differences between us are more real than imagined.
For mine, however, the reflex has always been to bring people together rather than to see them go separately. This is simply my own personality at work. It’s not a political thing. It’s not a considered position. It’s just a reflex. Some enjoy the idea of distinct difference. For me, it’s not as important as the ways in which we are the same.
Of course a nonsensical flag is never enough. There always has to be some text to go with it:
Stand up! Those who refuse to be slaves!
With our flesh and blood, let’s build our newest Great Wall!
The Chinese Nation is at its greatest peril,
Each one is forced to let out one last roar.
Stand up! Stand up! Stand up!
We are billions of one heart,
Braving the enemies’ fire, March on!
Braving the enemies’ fire, March on!
March on! March on! On!
Jaeger,
Morrison is not the Deputy GG last time I looked.
It’s basically a grab for a photo opportunity.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-young-women-aren-t-smiling-for-you-any-more-20220126-p59rd2.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR10E4_cqybb2kcN_nhFbU6mK1i6OiermsS_n69L93Rd1srxLkbOcL-TmGs#Echobox=1643168965
Clearly women don’t speak their mind in the Liberal partyroom. And if they do they aren’t listened to.
Team Liberal obviously aren’t used to women who don’t play by their rules.
S777
The pride of a nation died when you described our noble swans as dodos!
Personally, I don’t care what the Australian flag looks like, as long as the Union Jack is removed from it. Also, change the state flags. They’re ugly. Make them each unique looking.
The Federation Flag has a distinctively Australian southern cross.
I don’t suppose Morrison considers this important enough to say a few words and get all teary eyed?
Boerwar says:
Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 6:38 pm
Of course a nonsensical flag is never enough. There always has to be some text to go with it:
Stand up! Those who refuse to be slaves!
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And look where that got 600,000 Tibetans!
We do need a flag to identify us in sport.
I’m glad Briefly is here to explain how many times Labor has managed to win from opposition. Due to my retrograde amnesia I had already forgotten all the previous times he has enlightened us about that.
Splitter. 😛
Asha @ #2946 Wednesday, January 26th, 2022 – 6:16 pm
Fun fact: Despite being the party’s most successful leader, Hawke only once managed to lead Labor to a win from opposition.
If we want a bird on the flag it would have to be the battery hen. It is by far and away the most common bird in Australia.
If we want an animal then most probably the most common species is the House Mouse.
If want to add a serpent to the flag you could not go past popping in a Morrison.
If you want to add a flower then there would be room for debate. Most years the most common flower would the ones in wheat crops. Of course you would have the Greens wanting to put some ganja flowers on the flag. The Liberals would undoubtedly join this particular culture war battle by demanding that another feral flower – the poppy – cover the flag field.