The Australian reports the latest Newspoll has Labor returning to a 51-49 lead on two-party preferred after a tied result last time, from primary votes of Coalition 41% (steady), Labor 37% (up one), Greens 11% (steady) and One Nation 3% (steady). Changes on leadership ratings are likewise very modest, with Scott Morrison up a point on approval to 55% and down two on disapproval to 41%, while Anthony Albanese is up two to 40% and down two to 45%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is barely changed at 53-33, compared with 53-32 last time. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1513.
UPDATE (29/6): The Australian has published further results from the poll relating to COVID-19, including a fourth go at the question of how the Prime Minister has handled the situation. This series records a pattern of decline since his debut result of 85% good and 14% poor in April last year, to a current showing of 61% good (down nine over the last two months) and 36% bad (up nine points). Satisfaction with the government’s handling of the vaccine rollout is down three to 50% compared with two months ago, with dissatisfied up three to 46%. A new question on whether Labor would have done better turns up a neutral result, with 25% saying better, 36% no difference and 27% worse.
Ay Zee or not Ay Zee, that is the question.
ajm @ #2274 Wednesday, June 30th, 2021 – 6:48 pm
The thing is, that the risk is not uniform across the population. If you work in an exposed profession, your risk may be much higher of contracting Covid than someone who is able to isolate and work from home.
Spare me the bullshit.
Morrison is the one who is facing an Election soon.
Anna and Miles can pile it on as much as they like.
BW,
Alas poor Bollocks, we knew him well!
I have been in three different states/territories this year, and I don’t recall seeing anyone check out using an app (and nor did I on most occasions, I’m embarrassed to confess). Checking out just doesn’t seem to be a thing.
But I would have thought the information gleaned from the records of people checking in would be useful enough for contact tracers in most instances. For most businesses, the records of the till would provide a pointer to when someone left the premises. Sure, that’s a bit more work for contact tracers, but far better than no information whatsoever.
Player One @ #2302 Wednesday, June 30th, 2021 – 7:19 pm
And you can go to a doctor and talk about it. People at elevated risk have access as determined by a doctor. Dr Young specifically addressed that issue this morning
C@t: “Ella Haddad seemed nice when I watched the Tassie election coverage.”
Nice to meet in person too. I reckon Tas Labor could do a lot worse.
Industry experts have previously likened the prospect of receiving the underperformer label as a “death sentence” for affected funds, since they will be required to communicate this fact to their members and direct them to the YourSuper tool.
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OK, let’s say the bottom 20% all die. After that there will ALWAYS be a bottom 20%.
My avatar, if he were still alive, would lose his shit over this.
They say in other states WA stands for wait awhile.
I’ve been using the Safe WA app seamlessly since whenever.
I check in at the supermarket or shop or wherever , I don’t check out.
https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/covid-communications/covid-19-coronavirus-safewa-guide-patrons
Scott
The way this statement was delivered it doesn’t constitute advice..
“I don’t want an 18-year-old in Queensland dying from a clotting illness who, if they got COVID, probably wouldn’t die.”
As I said Jeannette has ignored some obvious off setting factors, “advice ” wasn’t even slightly balanced.
Rossmcg:
The SafeWA app never asks me to check out.
BK @ #2308 Wednesday, June 30th, 2021 – 7:24 pm
It’s a ridiculous provision and will encourage short termism in investment decisions, which will likely depress long term earnings. The LNP really hate workers.
With the Services NSW app, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave
While the Feds have offered indemnity, why would a Doctor put his credibility on the line and provide treatment that he/she thinks is unsuitable.
I have never met a doctor that was interested in indemnity. All of them want to provide the best care possible to their patients.
The Hypocratic Oath is “First, do no harm”.
Morrison to his eternal shame has politicised this sacred vow!
”Ay Zee or not Ay Zee, that is the question.”
The answer depends upon, inter alia, whether or not you believe the PM when he says there’ll be lots of Pfizer available from October.
DN: “We’re both slow, but:
– They are currently delivering on what was promised and planned.
– Our government is not.
(and what is it with the Right and their fascination with New Zealand anyway?)”
I can’t be bothered looking up sources now, but I’m certain I’ve seen criticism of the NZ Government for having failed to meet its vaccination targets.
I’m not particularly on the Right, nor am I all that fascinated by NZ. A number of other posters praised NZ’s performance relative to ours and I just thought I’d put a bit of data on the table.
Baba
Praise is for countries like the US on vaccines.
After Trump they really showed how to get a vaccine out to a population
meter baba,
You are very funny!
Define “Particularly” 🙂
Establishing a nuclear energy industry in Australia will take careful long-term planning, training a highly skilled workforce, learning from international experience, and bucket loads of stakeholder management.
The LAST thing it needs is Barnaby fucking Joyce throwing his support behind it.
meher baba
Yes … they’re doing that because one of your fellow travellers constantly played the “what about NZ, they’re so slow”. And here you are, doing the same a week later.
Is there an instruction manual you all follow or something?
Btw, the sources I read say that on average they’re on or ahead of their target so far.
Sceptic says:
Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 7:27 pm
Scott
The way this statement was delivered it doesn’t constitute advice..
“I don’t want an 18-year-old in Queensland dying from a clotting illness who, if they got COVID, probably wouldn’t die.”
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Here is the advice which the QLD chief medical officer is going off
Age Estimated risk of TTS per 100,000
AstraZeneca vaccine doses (first dose)
<50 years
3.1
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Also Morrison goes on ATAGI advice hence why the age limit went from 40’s to 60’s to get Astra Zeneca
After Trump they really showed how to get a vaccine out to a population.
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They certainly did, but are now struggling to get it up to the desired overall level. The credulous and the ignorant are the problem.
Sceptic @ #2310 Wednesday, June 30th, 2021 – 7:27 pm
It’s perfectly logical. Introducing a whole lot of hypothetical assumptions is no more than a device to defeat the logic for some ulterior purpose. The strength of Australia’s public health response has been based on a laser like focus on the main game.
Dandy Murray,
A nascent Australian nuclear industry will put any question of whether Australia is the “Lucky Country” to rest.
Griff: “Define “Particularly””
I’m about as right wing as was Bob Hawke or Neville Wran. Four decades ago, I was mainstream ALP, but the party has moved away to the left of me.
So questions Morrison needs to answer are
1- Why did he lie about the National cabinet agreeing to under 40’s to receive Astra Zeneca
2- Was his decision to make it under 40’s a political one rather than medical one
“With the Services NSW app, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave”
Tell me about it! I still get texts from them, but haven’t lived in NSW since pre-covid times.
Barnaby does know that nuclear energy doesn’t use coal, doesn’t he?
Not to mention NZ was a favourite target of comparison for the Right back when the pandemic started and people were comparing responses (e.g. lockdown vs no lockdown).
You were, as I recall, one of those fascinated with NZ back then too.
Morrison, Hunt, Murphy and Kelly have all again avoided 7:30
Gutless – or worse!
So questions Morrison needs to answer are
1- Why did he lie about the National cabinet agreeing to under 40’s to receive Astra Zeneca
2- Was his decision to make it under 40’s a political one rather than medical one
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Scott
It was Morrison’s version of “Let them eat cake”.
meher baba,
Thank you for the reply. In contrast, I have changed as I have grown more conservative as I have grown older. GB Shaw eat your heart out. If the Liberal Party of the pre-Howard years was here today, I may even have voted for them. I admire the advance of multiculturalism under Fraser for instance. Of course, it may be the parties that have shifted in the alternate direction? But most likely it is I.
7.30 Report
Annastacia Palaszczuk trying to spin this mornings mess.. good luck
Edit.. if it weren’t a mess i doubt she would be on 7.30 now
BK @ #2328 Wednesday, June 30th, 2021 – 7:41 pm
The Qld Premier is giving Morrison and his govt a right roasting!
The Qld Check In App doesn’t have a check out function. It confused me at first, but I realised the value lay in keeping it simple. (Or the function is hidden.)
BK
Yeah. We are going to have the same problem too. We do suffer the same educative media as today shows.
BK says:
Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 7:43 pm
Scott
It was Morrison’s version of “Let them eat cake”.
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Yes ,Morrison and his cronies with the NSW lib/nats , rather economy over health
Age Estimated risk of TTS per 100,000
AstraZeneca vaccine doses (first dose)
<50 years
3.1
About the same as:
– being killed on the roads in the next 18 months
– winning a big prize in NSW Lotto (3rd division or better)
DN: “Yes … they’re doing that because one of your fellow travellers constantly played the “what about NZ, they’re so slow”. And here you are, doing the same a week later.
Is there an instruction manual you all follow or something?”
I wasn’t doing a “waddabout”. I’m also totally unimpressed by the Australian vaccine rollout. It has anything but a Gordon Ramsay-style effort. Too complex and too much red tape. Even the advertising campaign has been sub-optimal.
Unlike most on here, I’m not inclined to pile all of the blame on ScoMo and his gang (although they are ultimately responsible for what happens). I think the Federal health bureaucracy hasn’t performed especially well: they had months and months and months to get the rollout right, but then stumbled when it was game on. And ATAGI is part of the problem too: notwithstanding Jeannette Young’s defence today, the reasoning behind their decision to pull the rug out from under the vaccine rollout – not once but twice – is starting to look rather questionable: based as it seems to have been on their assumption of a continuing near-elimination scenario and with no consideration of the potential impact of the delta strain.
The situation is quite a mess, with perhaps the only saving grace being the seeming willingness of a lot of people under 60 to ignore the ATAGI advice and press on with AZ.
Regarding the AZ debate. This might shed some light.
meher baba
Apologies then. I was feeling a little cheeky.
You can be certain the media ,Morrison and his cronies will take no responsibility , if there are unfortunate complications to those who are under 40’s
the doctors and those who choose to have Astra Zeneca will be the scapegoats
Well Palaszczuk gave the feds both barrels. ‘The Feds are responsible for international quarantine and vaccination and they’ve let us down.’
Well said!
meher baba says:
Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 7:36 pm
Griff: “Define “Particularly””
I’m about as right wing as was Bob Hawke or Neville Wran. Four decades ago, I was mainstream ALP, but the party has moved away to the left of me.
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Just like the most conservative Southern Republicans justified leaving the Democrats – “I didn’t leave the party, the party left me!”
Douglas and Milko (Block)
Wednesday, June 30th, 2021 – 6:42 pm
Thanks. That sounds very like the situation when I was briefly involved in the USA’s Low Level Waste investigation, back in the 1990’s. We investigated the salt formations in Carlsbad, coincidentally close to the USA/Mexico border. The general idea was to mine down to the deep salt formations and place the waste in steel barrels and retreat. Over time (100 years or so) the salt would close back up (it creeps under pressure) to entomb the waste. Being salt the risk of groundwater contamination was also minimised, but never zero. We were tasked with proving safe storage over a time scale of 10,000 years. As expected the definition of “safe” became the political sticking point. Fun stuff though. Chemistry. Groundwater. Biology. Nuclear Physics. Society. History. (How do you write “Don’t Drill Here!!!” in a way that will survive and be understood by people in 10,000 years? Human skulls were a serious suggestion until it was pointed out archaeologists are curious.)
When we were asked us to prove safety for 100,000 years we said no-one can do that and walked away from the work.
Confessions
“The Qld Premier is giving Morrison and his govt a right roasting!”
I thought she did extremely well. And what’s more, she actually showed up for an interview.
Steve777 says:
Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 7:47 pm
About the same as:
– being killed on the roads in the next 18 months
– winning a big prize in NSW Lotto (3rd division or better)
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Fair point
It shows Morrison and his cronies made matters more confusing by changing it from 40’s, 50’s and to 60’s
and back to under 40’s
Douglas and Milko @ #2242 Wednesday, June 30th, 2021 – 5:28 pm
Poisson statistics – which don’t work well with single iterations,
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), which is fairly specific to the adenovirus-linked COVID vaccines (AZ & J&J) does have a distinct age (and population) dependent incidence, but the condition seems to be a variant of heparin-induced throbocytopenia (HIT) in which both the thombosis (clot) and the thrombocytopenia (low platelets) are mediated by antibodies to platelet factor 4 (PF4) – which does not have an age dependent incidence. There are several conditions that can look like TTS which also have a distinct age- (and sex-) based incidence, such as the lupus anticoagulant syndrome, but these are not associated with PF4 Abs. Bottom line: all are rare and not predictable in the individual, but given enough iterations (such as its use in millions) the proportions are going to be fairly accurate. It’s the old problem – we know that it’s going to happen, we just don’t know in whom. Welcome to clinical medicine. It doesn’t play well with politics.
Paul Bongiorno@PaulBongiorno · 3m
OMG Tge Morrison government’s tactic to avoid @abc730 just back fired spectacularly .. Queensland’s @AnnastaciaMP didn’t miss them on vaccine and international quarantine failure.
Scott
Not to mention earlier when AZ clots was becoming a bit of a topic of conversation Scotty and wee Greg came out and shouted “Good news everyone! We will be getting bazillions of Pfizer in a few months”. So helpful.