This post delves into wonkish matters arising from last week’s report by the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters into last year’s federal election, and can thus be seen as a sequel to my earlier post on that subject. That post has a stimulating comments thread that I would like to see continue if anyone has anything to contribute specifically concerning the matters covered in this post. However, the comments thread below this post will serve as the usual open thread for general political discussion, it being past time for a new one.
On with the show. Among the more surprising recommendations of last week’s JSCEM report was the introduction of optional preferential voting. Whereas committee recommendations very often die on the vine, the chances of something becoming of this one shortened last week when both One Nation and the Centre Alliance indicated it would have their support, potentially giving it the numbers in the Senate over the opposition of Labor and the Greens. This prompted me to dig into data from last year’s state election in New South Wales, which offers the most proximate and generally useful pointer to how such a reform would play out at a federal election.
The New South Wales Electoral Commission is the only electoral authority that conducts full data entry of lower house ballot papers and publishes all the data, something the AEC only does for the Senate. The broader utility of this has been limited by the fact of New South Wales’ peculiarity of optional preferential voting, but as noted, there is a chance that may shortly change. I have aggregated this data to determine how each party and candidate’s preferences flowed between the Coalition and Labor, which no one else had done so far as I could see.
For those with a professional interest, this spreadsheet lays it all out seat by seat and party by party — for the lay person, the following table should suffice. It shows the aggregated statewide results from the state election, inclusive of the rate of exhaustion (i.e. voters who availed themselves of optional preferential’s opportunity to number neither Coalition nor Labor boxes), and the equivalent results from New South Wales from the federal election.
The reform’s attraction to the Coalition lies in the 40.0% exhaustion rate for the Greens vote, which split 82.2-17.8 in Labor’s favour federally. That alone would have sliced nearly 1% from Labor’s two-party preferred vote. However, the high exhaustion rate among all other minor parties, whose preferences in aggregate tend to favour the Coalition over Labor (think Hanson, Palmer and the religious parties) would have pared that back by around 0.3%. Such a change would probably have made a decisive difference in Macquarie (which Labor held by 0.2%) and Lilley (0.6%, and with an above-par Greens primary vote of 14.0%), and made life still more uncomfortable in Cowan (0.8%) and Eden-Monaro (0.8%, followed by 0.4% at the by-election).
lizzie @ #3199 Friday, December 25th, 2020 – 6:46 am
Merry Christmas, lizzie!
Light cool drizzle falling here. Perfect weather for cooking. It’s not snow but close enough for a jug band. ๐
Merry Christmas to all the Labor supporters out there! Have yourself some very merry red trees ๐
Good morning all.
Thanks BH I admire you from afar. Santa has been good to me. Just now patrolling in my slow speed walkabout, beneath a gorgeous bottle brush tree just outside my fence – where the lorikeets gather to raucous their way through breakfast – was an excellent collection of quality matials – including old wrapping paper, an almost destroyed handbag, some foam packaging and assorted rubbish.
Hot damn. Could Smoko have arranged this benevolence. Has the tide turned. Time will tell I guess.
I’m receptive to offers. Bid now, You know you want to โ
As to the Arsehole of the Year. I suggests that
also alleged human being, has got to be in with a show.
Thanks BK for the work you do producing the Dawn Patrol. 😍
Cud Chewer @ #3188 Thursday, December 24th, 2020 – 10:50 pm
Have yourself a Very Moo-ey Christmas, Cud!
That looks like a Kim Kardashian bag, KayJay. Lucky you! ๐
Merry Christmas. Again!
(Honestly, I just love the animated trees and you are giving me a very good reason to keep putting them up. To remind us how lucky we are to have you here for Xmas. ๐ )
Thanks C@tmomma. Be kind to yourself. 😻😻
What a ‘surprise’.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/fifty-years-of-tax-cuts-for-rich-didn-t-trickle-down-study-says
To the indefatigable, BK. Merry Christmas! The blog wouldn’t be the same without you.
And, of course, Merry Christmas to Mr Bowe, without whom the blog wouldn’t exist at all and we would have to spend our days shouting at the TV instead if it didn’t. ๐
Merry and Safe Christmas to all Bludgers and Lurkers.
Puffy.
Good to see you up and bushy-tailed, KayJay!!
Thanks for the sparkling trees, Cat. Lovely to wake up to .
Americans ‘steaming’ with rage as Trump golfs and the GOP leaves the country to die
The White House released the president’s schedule for Christmas Eve saying that he would be working “tirelessly for the American people.” But what that has actually turned into is something else.
After vetoing the defense spending bill, which included a raise for military service members, and threatening to veto the COVID-19 stimulus and 2021 budget, Trump fled to Florida to golf. For months, the White House has negotiated the stimulus bill and Trump’s budget, but at the last minute, the president decided he wanted to throw it all out the window.
Instead of doing his part to help get a bill that satisfied him, Trump flew to Florida and went golfing.
It led many on Twitter to call the president out for destroying the lives of Americans who need any stimulus money, service members counting on their raise, and government workers who may end up unemployed during another shutdown.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-golfs-while-amereica-dies/
Thanks, Quasar! Here, have another one ๐
About to collect the rubbish outside my fence – and – what’s that sound – dammit its pissing down. Well the BOM predicted 50% chance of rains so gawd knows what the other 50% will look like.
My lilies are showing nicely and one of the old time nurse friends from long ago is in town (from Melbourne) to help me admire them (tomorrow).
Pentagon officials holding ‘secret contingency’ meetings over fears Trump will incite violence: report
On Thursday, Newsweek reported that military officials are discussing their options in the event that outgoing President Donald Trump triggers civil unrest to try to prevent the peaceful transition of power.
“A half-dozen officers in similar positions agree that while there is zero chance that the uniformed leadership would involve itself in any scheme to create an election-related reversal, they worry that the military could get sucked into a crisis of Trump’s making, particularly if the president tries to rally private militias and pro-Trump paramilitaries in an effort to disrupt the transition and bring violence to the capital,” continued the report.
A retired judge advocate general said, “Right now, because of coronavirus, the president actually has unprecedented emergency powers, ones that might convince him โ particularly if he listens to certain of his supporters โ that he has unlimited powers and is above the law.”
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-martial-law-2649637802/
I believe Morrison has given his Christmas message. I haven’t seen it, but he quoted โlet us not grow weary of doing goodโ.
Such hypocrisy.
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
phoenixRED,
Did you hear why Trump vetoed the Bills?
1. Because the Republicans didn’t support his anti-democratic election-overturning efforts enough, and
2. Because Congress and especially the Democrats, refused to support Ivanka Trump’s desire to have her supported by the American taxpayers as she swans around the world building her profile:
https://www.rollcall.com/2020/12/23/congress-ditches-state-department-bill-after-fight-with-ivanka-trump/
And here we have the contrast – Ardern’s “politics of kindness”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/25/the-secret-of-jacinda-arderns-success-lies-in-her-conservatism?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=soc_568&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1608838189
Now.. back to bed…
lizzie @ #2444 Friday, December 25th, 2020 – 7:46 am
He does a lot of good. For rich Liberal voters. ๐
Here’s one for the dog lovers:
And here’s more:
https://www.treehugger.com/christmas-photos-cats-dogs-4862542
Chocolate fush from my kiwi mum!
He’s just taunting us now. – – I hope his chooks turn into emus and ……
Morning bludgers
Merry xmas to all
Are the MSM pointing out the ineffectiveness of our “Border Force”? Or don’t they count rich men’s yachts?
lizzie says: Friday, December 25, 2020 at 7:46 am
I believe Morrison has given his Christmas message. I havenโt seen it, but he quoted โlet us not grow weary of doing goodโ.
“And I want to pass my bestest Christmas wishes on to Rupert and Gina and Clive and Twiggy and Channel 9 and Kerry and all the terrific corporations and 1%’ers who have worked tirelessly to keep their favouritest political party in power. Kiss, kiss.”
Bah Humbug!
lizzie
And another quote from thd PM with 24/7 image consultant on hand
“resolve to share those blessing with others.”
American evangelism at its best!
And adds “we shall reap the benefits”
As ths PM puts another “log” on the China fire.
All we got for Christmas is more disingenuous bullshit.
But on a better note…. we got a mist for Christmas.
Misty Christmas all.
Goll
It seems a little strange (but obviously wonderful) not to hear of raging fires at Christmas. So much tragedy often happens at the turn of the year.
Morrison has cemented his position as Prime Wanker.
Ah, chocolate fush…now youโre talking!!
Have stashed Whittakerโs chocolate, Griffins Gingernuts, etc. for ron…
martini henry @ #2458 Friday, December 25th, 2020 – 8:27 am
Just for you ๐
lizzie @ #2461 Friday, December 25th, 2020 – 8:44 am
Or floods either!
Fascinating article about Tony Abbott’s mate, Viktor Orban in Hungary, with a killer opening paragraph that could apply equally here to Morrison and his Coalition government:
https://thebulwark.com/the-broad-coalition-uniting-to-try-to-take-down-viktor-orban/
Must be coolest Christmas day in Sydney for a long time
shellbell @ #3130 Friday, December 25th, 2020 – 9:10 am
Certainly the coolest in Melbourne for many years. Usually hot.
I am going to need a coat to walk my hearing assistance dog shortly.
Thanks c@tmomma.
Merry Christmas to all. And happy festivus to our friends of other creeds who are celebrating important occasions, religious and otherwise. Bondi Junction is decorated wit some lovely menorahs at the moment.
I have been only seeing the Dawn Patrol for the last few weeks, due to being a bit busy.
Kay Jay, it is so good that you are out of hospital, and your Lillies look lovely.
A big thank you to William and BK for the blog and the Dawn Patrol respectively, and many thanks to the regular posters who make it such and interesting place, and all the lurkers who come in occasionally not shake things up with new perspectives.
Off to finish making Christmas lunch.
OMG.
Douglas and Milko
๐
C@tmomma @ #3218 Friday, December 25th, 2020 – 4:49 am
So Ivanka to run as Trumps VP in 2024 and then for Pres in 2028, if daddy isn’t well enough to take his rightful third term?
Interesting rumour coming out of America that Donald Trump is also going to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden. ๐ฏ
I know Assange hasn’t been convicted in America yet but these things can be pre-emptive I believe.
NSW is again expected to announce single-digit COVID-19 case numbers today, with a new record number of tests carried out on Thursday, a source familiar with the figures said.
Test numbers for Thursday are expected to surpass the record 60,184 tests that were reported to 8pm on Wednesday.
Yesterday, Premier Gladys Berejiklian thanked those who got tested for coming forward but said the state was “far from out of the woods”.
“In fact, we have to be extra vigilant over the next few days,” she said.
The Premier will address the media at 11am (AEDT) so stay tuned
https://www.smh.com.au/national/coronavirus-updates-live-northern-beaches-covid-19-cluster-grows-amid-fears-of-new-cluster-in-cbd-20201225-p56q3o.html
http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2020/12/do-green-preferences-matter-at.html
Do Green Preferences Matter At Tasmanian State Elections?