The most interesting poll of the day is YouGov’s Queensland state poll, which you can read about here, but we do also have some results from the fortnightly Essential Research poll courtesy of The Guardian, focusing on expectations for the budget. Fifty-one per cent of respondents expected it would benefit the well off and 30% expected it would benefit those on low incomes, but only 25% thought it would benefit them personally. Thirty-five per cent expected it would be good for the economy compared with 31% for bad.
More interestingly, 78% signed on to the proposition that now was a good time to “explore new ways to run the economy”, with only 22% opposed. Sixty-nine per cent favoured “direct investment by government in job creation and in projects with the objective of improving living standards” when it was offered as an alternative to “deregulation to encourage employment and tax cuts for wealthy Australians”, which some may consider a false binary. The full report should be out later today.
In other poll news, The West Australian has been dealing out further results from the poll of 3500 respondents that recorded a 16% swing on state voting intention to Labor – remembering that this was a poll of five selected marginal seats, and not of the entire state. The poll found support for Western Australia’s hard border at 77% with 14% opposed, and support for secession at 28% and opposition at 55%, with 17% somehow unclear of their opinion.
UPDATE: Full results from Essential Research poll are available on the website, although there isn’t the usual PDF file at this point. Regular questions on COVID-19 suggest a softening of concern over the past fortnight, with very concerned down six to 30%, quite concerned up seven to 52%, not that concerned steady on 15% and not at all concerned down one to 4%. Perceptions of government performance in response are little changed, with the federal government on 60% good (down one) and 18% poor (steady), and good ratings for state governments on 65% in New South Wales (down two), 45% in Victoria (down two) 69% in Queensland (up one), 83% in Western Australia (down one) and 81% in South Australia (steady), with due regard to the small sub-sample sizes here.
UPDATE 2: PDF file here.
Albo missed a bit of an opportunity with Leigh tory Sales. This is the Morrison recession because he’s the PM. He may not be to blame, but he’s responsible for what has happened. He’s responsible for what happens now.
I suppose after the praise Sales got for attacking Scotty we can’t grumble but her attacks aren’t very logical.
Good example of Kerry Packer being treated in the Public Hospital, no matter how wealthy he was.
Lizzie @ #1450 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 8:26 pm
Labor ALWAYS have to outline how much their policies will cost, to the last cent.
Sales gave Albo a dream run there.
Albo.handled Sales’bitchiness very well.
I am sure sensitive Jim will do a better job delivering the budget reply speech next year.
‘ I suppose after the praise Sales got for attacking Scotty we can’t grumble but her attacks aren’t very logical.’
Leigh tory Sales is fine in a pair of jodhpurs trit-trotting a horsey at pony club, or talking about existential books with Annabel zany glasses Crabb on a pod cast, but logic? Come on. A bridge to far.
Lars Von Trier says:
Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 8:31 pm
You fail at trolling.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1451 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 8:25 pm
I think he got there in the end but it was a messy response.
I really wanted him to shut her down with a couple of well chosen memorable epithets.
She’s been like a dog with a bone over this for the last couple of nights.
Didn’t watch 7.30. I just emailed a mate saying the press will demand costings . So I’m right then?
I don’t really care that Albo wasn’t glib perfect with Leigh. He did ok. Being less than polished probably keeps him relatable with the punters in voter land.
The Morrison recession stings the narcissist mountebank. So keep it up, Albo.
It’s also true- when framed in terms of responsibly and not merely blame.
Next Monday…
“ So I’m right then?”
Yep. But coatings are so 2016. Espeivally when the government have just announced a 300 billion brain fart.
QandA a good opportunity for Albo to end the Green wedge that is killing him and his party.
This is about as animated as ScottyFromBunnings got tonight….
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1440 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 8:38 pm
The Libs are very uncomfortable with their spending spree. Doing stuff you don’t really believe in is always done begrudgingly. Albo, tonight, has simply highlighted their discomfiture and starts moving Labor towards victory.
There are probably two Budgets before the next election. Albo has made the Libs uncomfortable because they know their predictions are heroic, that there are no more tax cuts to offer the voters and
the debt explosion will not go down well down the track.
Plibersek’s blatant disregard for social distancing in the chamber just to get her mug on the telly was disgraceful. Very Trumpish behaviour.
Lol GG, it all comes back to mortgage serviceability in your game I guess!
“ There are probably two Budgets before the next election. Albo has made the Libs uncomfortable because they know their predictions are heroic, that there are no more tax cuts to offer the voters and
the debt explosion will not go down well down the track.”
I doubt there is more than one budget before the next election. In fact these pirates might just do a MYEFO next March and run to the polls.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1448 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 8:48 pm
Maybe. But that would be a mistake. Voters don’t like early elections and it would look like a government running away from responsibility and not up to the job of social and economic repair.
I am expecting the next election in the last quarter of 2021, so an election Budget next May, with savage cuts in May 2022 if the Coalition get back in.
The current Government will go early. Capitalises on the overall positive pandemic response (thanks for nothing Morrison) and minimises the economic fallout. Much larger issues than concern over public opinion towards an early election.
Another good discussion about the Carbon Club: How a network of influential climate sceptics, politicians and business leaders fought to control Australia’s climate policy
With author Marian Wilkinson, David Marr and the Climate Council’s Amanda McKenzie
All the names, events and memories you really wished you never ever needed to hear of again, the last twenty years of the coal and carbon club lobbying and manipulation in auspol. A moribund quarry mindset of old whitebread Australia still running the show, destroying the joint, with the collusion of major parties, apparently cheaper to buy than paying tax, and tax deductable.
Marian seems to think it’s crunch time for the carbon club, if sense and genuine public interest wins out. Despite all that bastardry, it’s clear that actually the public broadly want more action, a change to renewables is widely very popular and making ever more economic sense. The carbon club has lost the public debate mostly. Time to keep the pressure on.
More than ever the vested interests including Murdoch et al need to be driven out and their mercenary influence on politics removed.
Climate Council Online Book Club #6: The Carbon Club
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9w5BBr7gGI&ab_channel=TheClimateCouncil
The ‘Carbon Club’ is a brand new book from one of Australia’s most respected investigative journalists, Marian Wilkinson.
BSA Bob @ #1459 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 8:36 pm
You know it! Yet Frydebudget and Morrison can get away with Costings based upon heroic assumptions off the back of a vaccine!
There’s the essential inequity between how Labor and the Coalition are treated by the CPG, right there.
sprocket_ @ #1464 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 8:44 pm
Plum tuckered out from building the chook shed. 😐
Quoll just said:
Blah blah blah. Blah de blah blah blah.
You have a moral choice. Keep chasing clouds, or make common cause to put the pirates actually in charge into a political grave.
What say you?
Andrew_Earlwood says:
Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 9:03 pm
Quoll just said:
Blah blah blah. Blah de blah blah blah.
You have a moral choice. Keep chasing clouds, or make common cause to put the pirates actually in charge into a political grave.
What say you?
___________
I say you should get back to writing the judgements!
‘ I say you should get back to writing the judgements!’
As much as I’d love a $400K job for life (or at least statutory senility), I’m just a jobbing barrister. Have wig: will argue (for a modest consideration, gov’nor).
I know of whom you refer, but I ain’t he. I’m a mere shadow in his brilliant career.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1455 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 9:03 pm
She always makes the feral choice.
Surely somebody will photoshop a fly onto Morrison’s head?
By appeasing the fossil fuel unions, Albanese is essentially encouraging environmentalists to give first pref to the Greens.
Barilaro’s career surely in tatters: licence lost due to serial dangerous driving.
Not a law into himself after all, eh?
Jordan Shanks called Barilaro well.
What a Crash & Burn! How the mighty do always fall!
Whatevers pegarex. As long as the greens don’t make the whole progressive brand toxic to the centre – especially in the seats that the progressive plurality need to form government – then zero fucks are given.
Bushfire Bill @ #1480 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 6:19 pm
Shades of Troy Buswell.
A good set of policies to campaign on from Labor.
Now you have months to sell sell sell.
🙂
Do yourself a favour!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1314141900346023937
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1484 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 9:20 pm
It’s Labors choice to be Green wedged or not.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/10/08/morrison-budget-2020-women-minority-group/
I think the new policy on fixing the transmission lines is as close as Labor is going to get at shafting the LNP on climate until the media changes happen due to a Biden Presidency.
If Trump is re-elected we will be joining Extinction Rebellion if we are allowed to protest.
Edit: The NBN comparison is a big selling point.
The covita add was sung so well it left me asking, what is the best version of
“Don’t Cry For Me Argentina”, many version beautifully sung. Utube is a wonder.
I give it to Karen Carpenter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76ZKihNCWWE
It was exciting to see an Albo in the wild tonight.
Lets hope we see him again. and again, and again.
Every god damn day from now on talking about everything he said in the reply speech.
He needs to drive home just how much people are missing out.
Powermove of the night, talking about baby Phoneix. Lots of houses could be built helping out bushfire refugees.
It’s the faux left’s choice whether to wedge Labor or not.
Because they only care about positions (and to be seen and adored for those positions) and not achieving progress, they’ll wedge.
ScoMo loves them. Manila George loves them.
Of course, it would be different if they – or you Pegarex – could identify with logic and precision the 8 to 12 seats that could replace Hunter, Longman, Herbert, Capricornia, Forde, Lindsay, Pitrie, Robertson, Bass, Braddon, Boothby, Swan, Hasluck, Solomon, Lingiari that you’d have Labor tell to go and get totally fucked just so Labor wouldn’t be green wedged.
A sane person, one who actually cared about achieving actual progress by democratic means, would view our polity and decided PDQ that the good burghers of the seats I’ve listed have to be brought into the tent somehow, not spurned or told to go and sit in the naughty corner.
Over to you Pegarex, you great blowhard. Any real ideas about how to achieve that?
guytaur says:
Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 9:34 pm
I think the new policy on fixing the transmission lines is as close as Labor is going to get at shafting the LNP on climate until the media changes happen due to a Biden Presidency.
Agreed. Australia politics amounts to a hill of beans until the outcome of the US election is known. Is the Republic destroyed or is the republican party destroyed? Both outcomes have significant consequence.
From the ABC:
“The $20 billion, six-year plan would see a Labor government establish a Rewiring the Nation Corporation, which would be tasked with improving the current grid in line with plans developed by the Australian Energy Market Operator.”
The NEM trades about $20b of energy each year, and supports every sector of the economy and society. Transmission assets have 40 year lifetimes, or longer. $20b really is small beer, but it’s big enough to get some attention. Good move.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1493 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 9:40 pm
The great orators of Labor can articulate a pathway to sustainable family living based on science and economics.
I thought not. Pegarex. All piss and wind, signifying nothing.
Just like Propellor cap boy, firefly and Quoll.
Careful Andrew Earlwood. You might end up being accused of keeping Pegasus chased away.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #1497 Thursday, October 8th, 2020 – 9:51 pm
Labor can’t escape the Green wedge by denying their very real fossil fuel associations.
The truth will set them free…
I’m still upset about Pliberseks reckless arrogance.