The Eden-Monaro by-election has naturally consumed my energies of late, and I’m continuing to follow the late count through the post below, although the result is no longer in doubt. There appears to be no Essential Research poll this week, which leaves me with the following to hang a new open thread off:
• A local environmental concern has published results of a uComms robo-poll of the Darwin area ahead of the Northern Territory election, to be held on August 22. Including responses to the forced-response follow-up for the 13% who were initially undecided, the poll records Labor on 39.3% and the Country Liberal Party on 31.0%, compared with 47.9% and 33.6% respectively in Darwin seats last time. The new Territory Alliance party of former CLP Chief Minister Terry Mills is on 13.7% and the Greens, who only ran in three seats last time, were on 7.2%. The poll was conducted on June 29 from a sample of 699.
• The determination of state and territory seat entitlements for the next parliamentary term was reached on Friday, with a conclusion that was long known in advance and discussed here at length: namely, that Victoria will gain another new seat while Western Australia and the Northern Territory will each lose one, bringing the total number of House of Representatives back to a more typical 150 from its current 151.
• The Australian National University’s regular post-election review of the federal election, entitled Morrison’s Miracle: The 2019 Australian Federal Election, contains 24 chapters of analysis of every facet of the campaign and result, and is available as a free download.
Davidwh @ #2645 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 6:49 pm
I agree, better to stay closed and be safe. Once you reopen it’s hard to shut down again.
And I too hope Peg returns as well.
I missed this piece of merde from Meher:
“ You Labor die hards on PB cherish the “look over there” and “what about him” schools of argument, don’t you?
I quite clearly wasn’t talking about the NSW land clearing laws”
Well I clearly was from the get go. So was ‘the hashtag dude’.
‘Look over there’? ffs!
The Libs and the Greens have both perfected ‘look over there, Labor. Boo’ as a standard MO. With the 4 factions of our what passes for our media piling on for good measure as well.
The land leading laws, the cutting of the NSW public service, the protection laws for a feral invasive species, the debauchery over water in the MDB form a veritable Ring Cycle of corruption and nuclear level bad government. Worse still, if the Greens get their way with their ‘Stop Adani’ redux anti labor wedge in Queensland history will repeat itself in the sunshine state next year.
We are talking about objectively the worst of the worst and corrupt government decisions in living memory here.
But guess what? Eddie Obied tried time lift some of the State’s silverware back in 2009. Henry Tsang scammed the party at a Chinese dinner in 2015 and a few Labor branches were stacked in Melbourne’s western suburbs. Worst of all, a security guard had a dirty root whilst on quarantine duty.
So. Obviously the ‘Labor bad’ stuff is the only newsworthy stuff, and us ‘partisans’ are just engaging in ‘look over there’ and ‘what aboutism’ when trying to focus your feeble mind on the main game.
# Koala killer Has cut through.
# Koala killer is true
In the total absence of an independent media # Koala killer is about all we have to try to get the genuinely feckless to wake the fuck up and look at what is actually happening.
Quoll says:
Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:52 pm
Adam and Ellen posted a vid of themselves….
…in yet another fatuous Green stunt.
Barney in Tanjung Bunga says:
Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 7:59 pm
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You’ve obviously never haggled for a hotel in low season.
It’s a lot more than a hotel room. Security has to be paid for, and no longer can it be some dude from a private security firm.
It is now part of the cost of coming back and it will be for a while.
Did they really post a video of themselves doing good?
I suppose someone had to do it.
https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-USA/0100B5K8423/index.html
Spray @ #2633 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 8:34 pm
Mucho apologies. Watching TV and saw your request too late.
Weirdly the mask looks photoshopped…
Some previous Members for Werriwa reached high office. The current Member, Anne Stanley tweeted this tonight…
“Last week I had dinner at the Crossroads Hotel at Casula. I have followed today’s medical advice from NSW Health and I have been tested and am now in 14 days self-isolation.
If you also visited the Crossroads… instagram.com/p/“
frednk @ #2655 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 7:00 pm
A bit harsh on people who are already out of the Country.
I don’t disagree so much for people who choose to leave now.
Dotard doesn’t realise that the mask is meant to cover the nose…
It’s not a mask, silly.
It’s a gag.
No social distancing at all
Likes
Michael Rowland’s Tweets
Michael Rowland
@mjrowland68
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‘Are we all in this together?’: Police investigate as photos of packed out trial rugby game emerge https://smh.com.au/national/nsw/are-we-all-in-this-together-police-investigate-as-photos-of-packed-out-trial-rugby-game-emerge-20200712-p55bcv.html via
@smh
‘Are we all in this together?’: Police investigate as photos of packed out trial rugby game emerge
NSW Police say they are conducting inquiries around a trial rugby game in Bellevue Hill following resident concerns about social distancing.
smh.com.au
https://mobile.twitter.com/mjrowland68
When he first wore the mask he put it over his eyes and nose.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?cid=rrpromo
Barney in Tanjung Bunga says:
Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 9:13 pm
frednk @ #2655 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 7:00 pm
Barney in Tanjung Bunga says:
Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 7:59 pm
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You’ve obviously never haggled for a hotel in low season.
It’s a lot more than a hotel room. Security has to be paid for, and no longer can it be some dude from a private security firm.
It is now part of the cost of coming back and ti will be for a while.
A bit harsh on people who are already out of the Country.
I don’t disagree so much for people who choose to leave now.
Yes it is.
But I think it has been shown that trained resources are stretched and private security firms are not up to the task.
“Foreign policy will look drastically different if Joe Biden defeats President Trump in November, advisers tell Axios — starting with a Day One announcement that the U.S. is re-entering the Paris Climate Agreement and new global coordination of the coronavirus response.
The big picture: If Trump’s presidency started the “America First” era of withdrawal from global alliances, Biden’s team says his presidency would be the opposite: a re-engagement with the world and an effort to rebuild those alliances — fast.”
https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-doctrine-allies-matter-foreign-policy-d0d37753-6701-415b-bb69-ab60d0354662.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100
spr
The rest of the world might be happy about that, but they don’t vote.
IMO the general mood in the US is isolationist.
Quoll @ #2647 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 8:52 pm
Ah, so the old Good Cop, Bad Cop routine?
Trump is fucked on those figures. He wont be able to have his stupid rallies as the last one was a COVID petri dish. Their cases might not have even peaked by November. There will be 200,000 dead by then.
Taylormade @ #2618 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 8:20 pm
In your Liberal wet dreams.
#IStandWithDan
“ Trump is fucked on those figures.“
Why?
The 40% who still approve of him are mainly in red states or swing states. They also probably make up a majority of folk who will actually turn up and vote in said swing states. His base hasn’t slipped away. They will vote.
steve davis @ #2671 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:22 pm
And no one has even mentioned the wildfires in Arizona and Hurricanes in New Hampshire brought on by an acceleration in the effects of Climate Change on America.
Honestly, the way Putin, Xi, Trump, Erdogan, Orban, Bolsonaro and all the other minor authoritarian potentates are behaving with the world they want to possess, all they’ll have left by the time they get it is a smouldering wreck.
I’m 99.9999% sure there’s a Red under your bed, Taylormade.
Stop wasting time and go get him.
“I think QLD went too early on opening borders. Time will tell.”
Definitely and if the NSW outbreak gets materially bigger I expect the border will be closed pronto.
Because, judging from the pubs in my neck of the woods, a Qld cluster would be quite possible. Satutday night they were completely packed with no serious attempt ar social distancing at some of them.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #2673 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:28 pm
The Republican Voters Against Trump will bring him down. He lucked out last time, the Stephen Bradbury of American Presidential elections. Lightning doesn’t strike in the same place twice.
Not one mask.
Zero Social Distancing.
Obviously the Masters of the Universe think they are immune.
AE
The way it is going most of his base will be dead by November.
“ The Republican Voters Against Trump will bring him down.”
Bless you C@t. I thought a belief in magical creatures left the building when Pegasus departed.
Republican Voters Against Trump. Lols.
“ AE
The way it is going most of his base will be dead by November.”
Inshallah
Pegasus – if you’re reading, let me add my voice to the others who have requested you to continue posting. I don’t always see things exactly the way that you do, but I’m appalled at the egocentricity of some posters who apparently think that no opinion other than their own can be legitimately expressed. My suggestion would be to continue to post but resolutely don’t engage at all with the mini-Trumps. They’re not worth it.
C@t
Its just irresponsible ignorance.Then they blame Dan Andrews.
Victoria and BW – thank you that was very helpful.
It seems there is a national project – ColoSSoS (Collaboration on Sewage Surveillance of SARS-COV-2) run by “Water Research Australia”:
– https://www.waterra.com.au/research/communities-of-interest/covid-19/
ColoSSoS had a subscription phase that ended May 31, and presumably they met their subscription target (100k) so they’re underway. Most of the major water authorities appear to be involved. It would be a good idea to ask the Commonwealth CMO what progress has been made
C@t
GBerijiklian has been hinting for at least a week that things may change in NSW soon enough.
Max
We have a mini Trump. He is called Scott Morrison.
E G Theodore
It will be interesting to see what they report in due course.
steve davis @ #2683 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:41 pm
I would reply to you, stevedavis, but that seemingly condemns me to the norty corner. 😐
Victoria @ #2685 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:43 pm
As soon as the photo came out of the North Sydney Farmers Market, Ms Berejiklian should have acted. But she’s always reactive rather than pro-active.
C@t
Ive got my dunces hat on and am standing in the corner.
continuo @ #2666 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:19 pm
He’s amazingly resilient to dropping below 40% approval.
An interesting read:
Two words describe what the ALP machine politicians learn best in their version of student politics: using people.
https://redflag.org.au/node/7263
KayJay @ #2658 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:06 pm
Ah, no apology required KJ, was just having a little joke to myself. Your kindness is never in question. Thank you.
steve davis @ #2690 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:51 pm
I have to join you it seems. As long as we are social distancing though. We can practice our sneering as we move away from the schoolyard humour. 😉
C@t
When did that take place?
Andrew_Earlwood @ #2673 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:28 pm
Ooh, and let me guess, the 60% of people who hate his guts are all nonvoting hippies living on a commune in California, right?
C@t
I have to stay on PB longer tonight as I am in detention.
Dr. Dena Grayson
@DrDenaGrayson
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Police cars revolving lightBREAKING: Commissioner in #Florida who *voted against #masks* has tested positive for #COVID19 and is currently in the ICU the “most critical of conditions” with septic shock and multiorgan failure.
#WearAMask #coronavirus
@thespybrief
Florida county commissioner who voted against masks In hospital with COVID
Because of “complications from the virus, he went into septic shock and many organs are struggling,” his daughter wrote.
newsweek.com
Victoria @ #2695 Sunday, July 12th, 2020 – 9:55 pm
It was the weekend of the first easing of Lockdown here. sprocket_ posted a photo that looked something like this:
People just ignored precautionary measures.
I think the 2016 anti-Trump vote was largely neutralised by the vicious “Crooked Hillary” campaign. So many people were decieved into thinking they must each be as bad as the other.
After four years of Trump, that dog will no longer hunt. I suspect this time the anti-Trump sentiment is more visceral, and these people will be motivated to get out and vote.
Having tipped his re-election for most of the last four years, I now think he’ll lose comfortably.