The Guardian reports Essential Research’s latest weekly reading of concern about coronavirus finds satisfaction with the government’s handling of the crisis up two points to 65%, its best result yet out of the five such polls that have been published (no sign yet of the poor rating, which hit a new low of 17% – the full report later today should reveal all).
Last week’s question on state governments’ responses was repeated this week, and with due regard to sample sizes that run no higher than around 320 (and not even in triple figures in the case of South Australia), the good ratings have been 56% last week and 61% for New South Wales; 76% and 70% for Victoria; 52% and 63% for Queensland; 79% and 77% for Western Australia; and 72% and 66% for South Australia. Combining the results gives New South Wales 58.5% and Victoria 73% with error margins of about 3.7%; Queensland 57.5% from 4.6%; Western Australia 78% from 5.5%; and South Australia 69% from 6.9%.
Also included are Essential’s occasion question on trust in various institutions, which suggests that all of the above might be benefiting from a secular effect that has federal parliament up from 35% to 53% and the ABC up from 51% to 58%. The effect is more modest for the Australian Federal Police, up two points to 68%. In other coronavirus-related findings, the poll finds “half of all voters think it’s too soon to even consider easing restrictions“, with a further 14% saying they are prepared to wait until the end of May; that 38% said they would download the virus-tracing app, with 63% saying they had security concerns and 35% being confident the data would not be misused.
UPDATE: Full report here.
lizzie @ #734 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 10:19 am
Sorry, I should have edited that out.
I was more interested in the reference to Indonesia.
““I’ll never use movement tracking app!” posts man on app that tracks his every move”
https://chaser.com.au/national/ill-never-use-movement-tracking-app-posts-man-on-app-that-tracks-his-every-move/
” the premiers will as they battle for “Zero Day Honors” ”
Well, looks like parochialism has its uses 🙂
phoenixRED @ #741 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 12:18 pm
It’s beyond aggravating that Trump’s opponent can’t get over 50% support.
“Woof woof”
Moo
The truly excellent thing about ultra low oil prices is that, in general, traded food commodities will be cheaper and fewer people will go to bed hungry and/or die of famine related illnesses.
On that report that we almost all have the virus – it was put together by
“Douglas Isles
Douglas currently works as an Investment Specialist at Sydney-based Platinum Asset Management, where he has spent a total of 13 years in two spells. Born in Edinburgh, Scotland, he has a MA in Mathematics from Trinity College, Cambridge, graduating in 1996, and he qualified as a Fellow of the Faculty of Actuaries in 1999 and became a fellow of the Actuaries Institute of Australia in 2019. He has previously worked in Edinburgh and Singapore, and been in financial services for his entire career to date.”
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #741 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 12:17 pm
No. I think Barney mentioned it but I could be wrong about the source.
The Mote in God’s Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.
Frankenstein in Baghdad by Ahmed Saadawi
The Rise and Fall of D.O.D.O. by Neal Stephenson and Nicole Galland.
I Hate Fairyland by Skottie Young.
The Guns of August by Barbara Tuchman.
Oxford Time Travel Quartet by Connie Willis.
‘lizzie says:
http://humansforsurvival.org/sites/default/files/CHF_Roundtable_Report_March_2020.pdf‘
Goodness! The actually popped in ‘overpopulation’!
It is the common theme that makes all the other nine worse.
C@tmomma @ #748 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 10:33 am
I’m Barney and I’ve never said such a thing.
Steve777 @ #716 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 11:57 am
Sit.
Blobbit @ #756 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 12:31 pm
In other words he has no more credibility as an epidemiologist than any of us?
Boerwar
I was a very early convert to the over-population theme – way back in the seventies. I think I was justified.
On the winter thing – is there a reason why flus and Covid are thought to be worse in winter? It can’t be temperature, given that our winter is warmer than other places summer, but we don’t expect year round flu in those cold places.
I’ve not found a good explanation, and I’ve always wondered…
There was some television footage of Jakarta streets that involved an instance of a person collapsing from what was thought to be Covid.
There was some voice over stuff, wtte, this was happening more than once. No statistics. The implication was that the Virus was spreading more than either Jokowi or the Health Minister were letting the Indonesian peeps know.
There have been reports of Indians leaving the large cities and returning to their villages hundreds of km away who did die on the side of the roads following the Modi Closure announcement.
The Indian governments have since set up emergency food supplies to stop these incidental deaths.
“a rsays:
In other words he has no more credibility as an epidemiologist than any of us?”
His maths is probably way better than mine, but he’s way less an expert than a real epidemiologist. The age article describes him as an “expert” which is way over-selling it.
There was some reporting of it in this article :
Coronavirus: Indonesia bans foreigners, declares state of emergency after warning 140,000 could be dead by May
One nation could see a staggering 140,000 COVID-19 deaths by the end of this month as images emerge of bodies lying in its streets.
Over the past few days, disturbing images of bodies lying in the streets of Jakarta, some tended to by paramedics in hazmat suits and others left alone, have made their way around the world.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-indonesia-bans-foreigners-declares-state-of-emergency-after-warning-140000-could-be-dead-by-may/news-story/2dc917ba94e1e54d1ddfcae88f0c2fda
Meha – thanks for reminding me – Renault and Vidal are both great reads. I haven’t read all of their publications, but those I have have been excellent. Vidal’s ‘Julian’ is also a contender for best Roman novel I’ve read.
‘lizzie says:
Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 12:37 pm
Boerwar
I was a very early convert to the over-population theme – way back in the seventies. I think I was justified.’
Yep. Unfortunately the racism police find the word ‘overpopulation’ to be a stimulus response trigger for rather nasty personal attacks. This still renders a sane debate in Australia on whether or not it is overpopulated, almost impossible when it is quite clear from all measured natural and resource indicators that we are already heavily over-populated.
Social distancing advice Russian style
Canuck style
and more here
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-social-distancing-guidance-two-metres-siberia-montana-hugh-pym-a9476761.html
Boer @ 12.30pm
A very long string perhaps?
“The truly excellent thing about ultra low oil prices is that, in general, traded food commodities will be cheaper and fewer people will go to bed hungry and/or die of famine related illnesses.”
Just saying!
Well, you heard it first on Bludger!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-22/coronavirus-famines-of-biblical-proportions-united-nations/12171726
Drama Queen alert for nath to pusillanimously scoff at…
I’m going to ask my GP on Friday for a COVID-19 test. I believe I may have picked up a small dose of the disease (it seems this is possible), when I took my eldest son to the international airport on March 7.
Subsequent to that temporary contact with the outside world, my #2 son and I developed similar symptoms but to varying degrees. I had a persistent sinus headache which just wouldn’t quit, an on and off again earache, lethargy, slept excessively for me, no raised temperature, loss of sense of taste for a couple of weeks and diminution of sense of smell and a shortness of breath which quite suddenly came upon me. Not to mention the magnification of pain.
Not that I am worried about whether I have/have had, COVID-19, because I am slowly getting over the worst of it, I just want to know. And the other night when I collapsed in a heap feeling like death warmed up simply because I spent a day doing only a small amount of extra exertion only makes me more curious as to the cause of these symptoms.
Can’t wait to find out the result of the test, for better or worse.
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #760 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 12:35 pm
That’s why I qualified my answer, duh! Anyway, phoenixRED has kindly supplied the facts to Cud.
Blobbit
Earlier I posted an article re ventilation and the spread of the virus. Perhaps it relates to that. The winter months see people spending more time ‘sealed up’ in snug places.
‘Goll says:
Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 12:43 pm
Boer @ 12.30pm
A very long string perhaps?
“The truly excellent thing about ultra low oil prices is that, in general, traded food commodities will be cheaper and fewer people will go to bed hungry and/or die of famine related illnesses.”
Just saying!’
Not at all. The amount of global hunger is directly related to traded food commodity costs. This in turn depends on input costs, of which energy is an important component, and the global balance between supply and demand.
Those Australians (aka the Greens) who want to destroy Australian irrigation farming and who also want to micro manage all other farm inputs show zero understanding of the impact their policies would have on world hunger.
Put together, Greens policies would essentially remove Australia from being a major world food commodity exporter.
Malcolm Turnbull at the NPC at 1pm.
C@t @12:46
A regular PCR test will probably show negative if you were infected that long ago.
An antibody test might be useful – but the doc would also have to test you for various other viruses.
I’m interested to know if any docs do actually do the covid19 antibody test. C@t if you ask the doc that and find out I’d like to know.
Mundo
They are flying at a not so high altitude and can’t understand them being above and beyond.
Ryan StruykVerified account @ryanstruyk
Reported US coronavirus cases:
6 weeks ago: 1,000 cases
5 weeks ago: 6,135 cases
4 weeks ago: 52,976 cases
3 weeks ago: 185,499 cases
2 weeks ago: 398,809 cases
1 weeks ago: 609,240 cases
Right now: 824,438 cases
Reported US coronavirus deaths:
8 weeks ago: 0 deaths
7 weeks ago: 9 deaths
6 weeks ago: 31 deaths
5 weeks ago: 111 deaths
4 weeks ago: 704 deaths
3 weeks ago: 3,834 deaths
2 weeks ago: 12,895 deaths
1 week ago: 26,033 deaths
Right now: 45,039 deaths
Reported US coronavirus cases:
Feb. 21: 34 cases
Mar. 21: 25,740 cases
Apr. 21: 824,438 cases
Reported US coronavirus deaths:
Feb. 21: 0 deaths
Mar. 21: 323 deaths
Apr. 21: 45,039 deaths
Blobbit,
Another hypothesis is that vitamin D deficiency in Winter makes our immune systems more vulnerable.
Cud Chewer
It’s possible that C@t would be contributing to under-reporting, yes?
Edit: Not deliberately, but as an example.
Presumably they were put there at some point after they died, and didn’t suddenly fall over dead while walking down the street as suggested by the original claim.
I posted ”Woof woof” in mild mocking response to Mundo’s contention that this place had ”gone to the dogs”. But having posted, found that things had moved on a page or so.
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The Daily Telecrap is giving the NSW Treasurer a boost in its paper edition – ”Treasurers Plan to defy Virus Gloom”. Has Rupert decided that he needs to change his local sub-Viceroy? Gladys not right wing enough?
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #761 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 12:35 pm
I think someone posted a meme video of people in Wuhan falling over in the street dead. Looked as sus as.
lizzie
Its possible. I have a friend in QLD (and his wife) both have had possible covid19 symptoms but so far have been excluded from testing.
The Reason for the Season: why flu strikes in winter
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2014/the-reason-for-the-season-why-flu-strikes-in-winter/
Steve777
The Rupertarium probably took it as a sign of disloyalty when Gladys followed Andrew’s lead rather the BoJo-lite of Scrott at the time
GOP governors in the South are creating a ‘perfect storm’ for a new COVID-19 explosion: experts
On Tuesday, Politico reported that experts are fearful that Southern Republican governors following President Donald Trump’s urging to reopen their economies early, like Brian Kemp (R-GA), Henry McMaster (R-SC), and Ron DeSantis (R-FL), are creating a “perfect storm” that will allow COVID-19 to explode in the region and prolong the pandemic in America.
“Republican governors across the Southeast are teaming up to reopen the region’s economy, even as they lack the testing to know how rapidly the coronavirus is spreading,” reported Matt Dixon. “One health expert called the political decision a ‘perfect storm’ for the virus to reassert itself.”
“The newly formed coalition includes Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi, a part of the country that has underfunded health systems, as well as high rates of obesity, diabetes and other illnesses that amplify the deadliness of the coronavirus,” continued the report.
“And unlike their peers in New York, New Jersey and other Northeastern states that have been working cooperatively since last week to restart their economies, the six in the South have lagged on testing and social distancing measures.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/gop-governors-in-the-south-are-creating-a-perfect-storm-for-a-new-covid-19-explosion-experts/
Jaeger
Interesting.
Steve777 @ #784 Wednesday, April 22nd, 2020 – 1:00 pm
Oh deary me Steve.
Go back over the posts.
MUNDO DID NOT POST ‘this place had gone to the dogs.
It was Cud Chewer.
Please don’t verbal me in future.
(BTW Mundo was a Dalmation!)
“2 weeks ago: 12,895 deaths
1 week ago: 26,033 deaths
Right now: 45,039 deaths”
Tragically, with this trajectory, I can’t see how US deaths can be kept under 100,000.
Kakuru says: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 1:10 pm
“2 weeks ago: 12,895 deaths
1 week ago: 26,033 deaths
Right now: 45,039 deaths”
Tragically, with this trajectory, I can’t see how US deaths can be kept under 100,000.
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Especially if the South explodes in a ‘perfect storm ‘ as I posted just above …..
Thanks for the flu links. From the Harvard article
“Therefore, we can conclude that, at least in regions that have a winter season, the influenza virus survives longer in cold, dry air, so it has a greater chance of infecting another person.”
So it may be completely irrelevant for this virus – it’ll depend on how it behaves. Given the spread in countries with quite different temperatures, we’ll have to see if it applies. From that article, higher temperatures and humidity should reduce transmission. Does Singapore, for example, have a flu season?
Kakaru
Lucky Trump got in early and moved the goalposts. The sick joke is the rwnjs slagging off the modelers as being totally wRONg scaremongers will end up trying to use those same numbers to defend their performance.
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/30/21199586/us-coronavirus-deaths-trump-200000-good-job
“”Australia & the US are the best of mates & we’ll continue to align our efforts as we work towards the recovery on the other side of this virus.”
Morrison.
That rather worries me.
Bill Palmer – Saw that coming
A few weeks back, Donald Trump and his allies publicly flirted with a new plan that basically consisted of “kill Grandma to save the economy.” The premise was that we should reopen the country for business, let everyone catch the coronavirus, and whoever ends up dying from it, too bad. Of course the deaths would be disproportionately higher among those who are older and/or frail.
To the surprise of no one, senior citizens aren’t exactly thrilled with Trump’s plan to murder them. Over the past few weeks, Trump’s coronavirus crisis approval rating with senior citizens has dropped by a whopping twenty points over the past few weeks. It’s easy to draw a straight line from Trump’s “kill Grandma” plan to his drop in support among seniors.
The thing is, this is likely to only get worse for Donald Trump. Some Republican Governors are now prematurely reopening their states, with Trump’s blessing. It’s a given that within two weeks, the death tolls in those states will begin spiking. Senior citizens will rightly see this as an assault on their lives – and Trump’s approval numbers with seniors will likely drop even further accordingly.
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/saw-that-coming-2/27802/
The USA is the last place that we should be aligning with in the recovery phase.