A track winding back

A look at leadership approval poll trends, and my new facility for tracking them.

BludgerTrack is back, sort of – you can find a permanent link on the sidebar along with a miniature version of its main attraction, namely polling trends for leader approval and preferred prime minister. These go back to the onset of Scott Morrison’s prime ministership in August last year, and thus encompass distinct Bill Shorten and Anthony Albanese epochs.

As you can see, Morrison has mostly gravitated around neutral on his net rating (i.e. approval minus disapproval), barring a post-election surge that has now run its course. Shorten’s position appeared to improve during the election campaign, which was also picked up in Labor’s internal polling, though clearly not far enough. Albanese has mostly been around neutral, but as a newcomer he has a high uncommitted rating, which doesn’t come through when you reduce it to a net measure. This is how he manages to do worse than Shorten on preferred prime minister (although a narrowing trend kicked in here a few months ago) despite doing better on net approval.

I haven’t included the most recent Newspoll result at this stage, as this is clearly a distinct new series for which I will require a few more results before I can standardise it against the other polls. On the basis of this limited evidence, the new-look Newspoll’s leader rating scores can be expected to behave somewhat differently from the old. As Kevin Bonham notes, the new poll has markedly worse net ratings for both leaders, as uncommitted rates are lower and disapproval higher.

Needless to say, what’s missing in all this is voting intention, for which I am going to need a good deal more data before I reckon it worth my while. If you’re really keen though, Mark the Ballot has gone to the trouble of running a trendline through all six of the Newspoll results post-election. If nothing else, my BludgerTrack page features a “poll data” tab on which voting intention polls will be catalogued, which for the time being is wall-to-wall Newspoll. And while I have your attention, please note as per the post above that I’ve got the begging bowl out – donations gratefully received through the link at the top of the page.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Too much solar – or rather, too much at the wrong time – threatens to create an unbalanced grid. Rooftop solar is now the “biggest generator” in Western Australia, and the government is worried.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-01/rise-of-rooftop-solar-power-jeopardising-wa-energy-grid/11731452

    Solutions need to be co-ordinated and “smart” or else solar electricity gluts due to sunny days in times of low demand (e.g. Spring and Autumn) can clobber baseload generation which is difficult and expensive to modulate.

    Solutions proposed include smarter battery networks, whether household or grid scale. I can think of another: desalination on a mass scale, for either irrigation or hydro storage, or both.

    It needs a mindset change, a new way of looking at sunshine as a natural resource.

    Western Australia is a unique case because of its isolation from the national energy grid.

  2. Simon Katich says:
    Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 10:38 am

    Interesting take on public health insurance in the US.
    https://www.politico.com/news/agenda/2019/11/25/is-medicare-for-all-right-answer-wrong-idea-072462

    -0-

    Extraordinary!! Washington state borders on Canada. It is a relatively short drive from Seattle to Vancouver. Nowhere in that article does Politico mention that Canada has had “medicare for all” for more than 50 years. Yes, and Canada still exists despite that fact.

    Canadians have never seen a hospital or doctor’s bill (that includes specialists) for more than half a century. That includes raising a family and covering the usual health issues for aging adults. And there is virtually no criticism of the system from the medical profession.

    Unlike Australia’s “crock” of a health system, in Canada there are no caps, no “gaps,” no co-payments and no private health insurance industry for hospital and standard G.P. and specialist treatment, in and outside of hospitals. Virtually all medical tests are bulk-billed.

    It baffles me why U.S. politicians are unable to resist the attacks from the medical, pharmaceutical and insurance industries which are wheeled out every time someone like Bernie Sanders suggests an alternative to the present dysfunctional system. It’s almost the same kind of reaction to gun control in that crazy democracy.

    It’s the same here. I’ve contacted Labor’s shadow health minister a couple times to ask why doesn’t Labor go for a medical for all campaign and I have received no reply.

    Yet instead there are continuing articles (SMH Saturday) in the media agonizing over the health of the ailing private health insurance industry in this country.

    In Canada in the 1960’s, it took a couple of outstanding politicians, Premier Tommy Douglas of Saskatchewan and Nobel Peace Prize-winner Prime Minister Lester Pearson in Ottawa to demonstrate courage and leadership to take on the vested interests. They crafted a feature of Canadian identity that has become iconic.

    When Canadians are asked what makes them different than their southern neighbours they almost unanimously cite Medicare (for “all”).

  3. Anyone who claims that Jeremy Corbyn, a staunch and consistent anti-racism campaigner, is an anti-Semite is engaging in Goebbels-like propaganda. Corbyn’s main sin is that he doesn’t regard the Palestinians as sub-human scum who can be oppressed without consequences. This position infuriates many people in the Israeli lobby.

  4. Lambie is far more real to most people than any cabal of Inner Urbs Hipsters could ever hope to be.

    She was from the OR in the ADF. Not the officer class.
    She has a child who has battled addiction.
    She can be earthy. Too tart for the wowsers?
    Her accent is instantly recognizable as ‘our’ accent to a lot of people and definitely not what ABC presenters elocute.
    So what if she is inconsistent, has occasional difficulties with complexity and stumbles instead of being yet another glib robopollie?
    She is rambuctious, somewhat unseemly for a woman for some?
    She has had a shit fight with DVA. So do lots of other vets. Par for the course.

    I can understand why the people who advocate Zero/2030 and who intend wrecking swathes of rural and regional Australia do not like Lambie. She is one of the ‘Other’.

  5. ‘Nicholas says:
    Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 11:20 am

    Anyone who claims that Jeremy Corbyn, a staunch and consistent anti-racism campaigner, is an anti-Semite is engaging in Goebbels-like propaganda. Corbyn’s main sin is that he doesn’t regard the Palestinians as sub-human scum who can be oppressed without consequences. This position infuriates many people in the Israeli lobby.’

    Yet another drive by rant by Nicholas who absolute refuses to engage in the details of the discussion.

  6. Just a minor point. NSW general security licences = Victorian ‘low security’ licences. These are different from high security water licences.
    I haven’t checked the latest advice but I believe that we will get part of our high security licence allocations this year and zero for our low security licences. We expect this because, in a drought, low security licences get hind tit.
    The Murray general security licencees who are screaming for allocations know what the game is. They avoided buying the high security licences they needed to ensure some continuity of water supply. But poor capital management means that they now have to buy on the spot market. And, predictably, paying spot price for a scarce commodity during an ongoing drought is going to be deadly.
    In these circumstances, blaming everyone else is a bit rich, IMO.

  7. ‘Nicholas says:
    Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 11:25 am

    Turgid fabrications are still fabrications. Calling Jeremy Corbyn is an anti-semite is a repugnant lie.’

    Yet another drive by swipe by Nicholas who once again resolutely avoids dealing with the specifics.

  8. BB
    Coal fired power has the same problem of cyclic oversupply, on a different timescale. We call it off peak.
    It is possible to fix both problems.

  9. “It needs a mindset change, a new way of looking at sunshine as a natural resource.“
    Extending it beyond WA – Mindset changes come hard in our current political climate where the narrative is so tightly controlled by conservative forces.

    Similarly the US wrt health. It will be a massive change to Medicare for all, both technically and culturally. That article outlines how Wash state has at least made public insurance available to all – a direct competitor to private health. I wonder if that is the only way to start…. then hope it snowballs.

  10. One wild card in the coming months is Barilaro.
    His general stance on the environment can be gleaned from his support for degazetting national parks.
    He believes that, as far as water is concerned, South Australia should GAGF.
    He believes that now is the time to divert remaining environment water holdings into irrigation.
    He has threatened to walk away from the Plan.

  11. Jeremy Corbyn has told MPs investigating accusations of antisemitism in the Labour party that he regrets once calling members of Hamas and Hezbollah “friends”.

    Giving evidence at the home affairs select committee on Monday, the Labour leader said that he had used the phrase to describe the militant groups during a meeting in parliament in 2009.

    “The language I used at that meeting was actually here in parliament and it was about encouraging the meeting to go ahead, encouraging there to be a discussion about the peace process,” he said.

    Asked whether he still regarded Hamas and Hezbollah as “friends”, the Labour leader said: “No. It was inclusive language I used which with hindsight I would rather not have used. I regret using those words, of course.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/04/jeremy-corbyn-says-he-regrets-calling-hamas-and-hezbollah-friends

  12. Seeing as we are discussing the UK election.

    The Tories must be panicked. They have stopped with the weaponisation of antisemitism and moved to blaming Labor for the terror attacks on London Bridge.

    Nine years in. Voters will be turned off by that. Just as they were during the May campaign.
    Its either desperation or they just don’t learn. The latest polls have Labour up by 2 and the Tories down by 1

    Given the narrow margins in the many seats the Tories are in the lead by that could be very bad news for the Tories. Remembering the polls don’t measure the additional voters who have registered or the ones that won’t turn out for many various reasons including death.

    The desperation is for clear reasons. BoJO needs a clear majority. A close win or a hung parliament is a loss for Johnson and his No Deal Brexit agenda. Likely to cause another election before the five years is up.

    This is why the antisemitism stuff is being run and we should not avoid this truth. The Tories are scumbags using race as a weapon.

  13. mundosays:
    Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 10:25 am

    Rex Douglas @ #375 Sunday, December 1st, 2019 – 10:23 am

    Warners innings has spoiled the whole summer of cricket for me. The commentators will be talking him up non-stop. Can’t stand him.

    100%

    These comments’ highlight the superficial nature of their owners.

  14. Jeremy Corbyn is not an anti-Semite, indeed Corbyn has been a consistent anti-racist for all of his political career. Also, I would argue that one can be anti-Zionist, while not being anti-Semitic. The only mistake Corbyn has done is not to combat anti-Semitic elements in the Labour Party.

    On the other hand, Boris Johnson has made numerous racist and Islamophobic statements. In addition many in the Conservative party hold at least Islamophobic sentiments and the party has not made an meaningful effort to combat Islamophobia.

    @guytaur

    I am now predicting another hung parliament, with the Scottish National Party and possibly the Liberal Democrats in the box seat. Also, some prominent Brexiters such as Dominc Rabb and even to a much lesser extent Boris Johnson could lose their seats.

  15. Re. an article from BK’s Dawn Patrol:

    [‘But it isn’t only saying the words aloud that has stopped; we avoid considering our own mortality. In the UK, a country with a 100% death rate, only 40% of adults have written a will. Worse, a mere 6% of us have nominated a lasting power of attorney…’]

    I reckon the death rate here might also be close to 100% and not having a will and an EPOA is pretty slack, with the potential to cause all manner of problems on death. If you’re tight, you can buy a will kit from a newsagency for around $20; these usually pass muster. You can also go to the A-G site in your state or territory to fill in an EPOA and an AHD. Here’s the Queensland link:

    https://www.publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/power-of-attorney-and-advance-health-directive/resource/94c27605-28ad-4e71-846b-04b0d66ef3b8

    Complex wills – say, with a testamentary trust – should be drawn by one of those damn money-hungry legal practitioners. It’s also handy to have a major asset such as real property in joint names, as it’ll pass to the surviving joint tenant by the survivorship rule, not by a will, which is cool if you don’t have a one. Attention is also drawn to family provision legislation, which can put a spanner in the works. Just ask
    Blanche d’Alpuget. (Shortest will that didn’t comply with legal formalities but was nonetheless approved: ‘All to mum’ – the intention of the testator being the paramount concern of the courts)

  16. The main problem with the MDB plan seems go be that it was not designed to cope with either drought or climate change.

    In a country like Australia, which has spent more of the last 20 years in drought than not, and which is one of the countries expected to be worst affected by climate change, just how dumb can you get?

    Now, we seem to be stuck with a plan that can neither be easily fixed nor unwound

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-12-01/canning-murray-barling-basin-plan-solves-none-of-the-problems/11734440

    🙁

  17. There is another possibility. It is possible to hold generally anti-racist positions in principle while also, from time-to-time, saying or thinking racist things or even letting racist language or racist behaviour slide right past you. Context is important here. For example, if you are leader of a political party.

    Looking back at my early struggles with my own anti-semitism there were times when I said things which were anti-semitic and which were at odds with my general attitude, which was to despise racism in principle.

  18. Tristo

    Yes. SNP look like a strong majority.

    We could see the break up of the union thanks to David Cameron’s political stupidity in opening up the Brexit box.

    So much denial over losing empire. Just like with Marriage Equality. Losing privilege seen as being oppressed being exploited by demagogues and populists.

  19. @guytaur

    I believe the Brexiters don’t care much for the Union, they are an essentially English nationalist movement. The collapse of the British empire, led to a questioning among the different nations of the United Kingdom, if they are really British or just say Scottish or English.

    Therefore their attitude is that if the Union is dissolved to achieve Brexit, so be it. Then I can seriously believe that a minority Conservative party dependent on SNP support, would agree to holding a second Scottish Independence referendum.

  20. As I said at the time, Warren was going to sustain political damage over her health care policy because she hasn’t been able to credibly explain how she plans to pay for it, nor what happens to the millions of Americans with private health insurance.

    Recent polling suggests Warren has sustained political damage from her health-care policy. After climbing to the top of the field by focusing on a message of overhauling Washington and Wall Street, Warren plateaued as her campaign became consumed with health care.

    Now, she is falling.

    Nationally, Warren has dropped from a high of about 27 percent in October’s RealClearPolitics’ average of polls to near 16 percent at the end of November. In Iowa, she has dropped about five points in that same period, and in New Hampshire, her support has been cut in half, according to the calculation. Warren’s decline has coincided with the rise of a new entrant into the top tier: South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who has backed a more moderate health-care agenda and accused Warren of failing to make clear how she would pay for her plan.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-a-fight-over-health-care-entangled-elizabeth-warren–and-reshaped-the-democratic-presidential-race/2019/11/29/40f4d30e-0bb0-11ea-97ac-a7ccc8dd1ebc_story.html

  21. Tristo

    The problem for the Brexiteers is that Labour has embraced its leavers not left them behind.

    By making the Labour party position clear that any deal has to be confirmed by the people Labour has knocked the ground out from under the Hard Brexit position of Johnson.

    This is what the pundits are missing. That then makes it a General Election on issues that Johnson is not fighting.

    So unless people are in the cult of listening to Fake News and will only vote on Brexit Labour wins the argument. Its getting that argument out that is Labour’s job. With its leave seats its Johnson is going to sell the NHS could just be doing it. That could see the few thousand votes needed to change in each of those marginal Tory seats and keep the Red Firewall up.

    Those leave voters voted Labour last election.

    Its like the narrative that Morrison won by a landslide. The voters were unengaged. By definition that means their vote is volatile and is up for the taking at the next election if Labor sells to them much better next campaign. Not what you hear from the pundits.

  22. Ditto, Boerwar. There are none so blind as those who will not see. I thought you were better than relying on the Daily Mail for your ‘proof’.

  23. Yet for all the headlines about “mounting antisemitism” in Labour, we are rarely given any sense of its scale. Data released by the party in February 2019 showed that it had received 1,106 specific complaints of antisemitism since April 2018, of which just 673 regarded actual Labour members. The party membership stands at over half a million: the allegations, even if they were true, concern around 0.1 percent of the total.

    Constant media talk of Labour’s “antisemitism crisis” has nonetheless warped all discussion of this issue. This is a key finding of Bad News for Labour, a new book on the party’s handling of antisemitism claims. The study is especially notable for its use of focus groups and polling to gauge public perceptions of the affair: when its authors commissioned Survation to ask 1,009 people how many Labour members faced antisemitism complaints, the average estimate — at 34 percent — was over three hundred times the published figures.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/10/labour-party-antisemitism-claims-jeremy-corbyn

  24. Cat

    I am glad you see it. I hope this means Labor sees it too. I hope Labor is watching the UK campaign closely. Agree with Corbyn’s policies or not the tactics he uses successfully against the Tory and media allies are good tactic lessons on campaigning Labor can take note of.

    The latest being the blame Labour for the terrorist attacks.
    The best thing Corbyn has done for Labour is change and challenge the Tory framing of events.
    By changing that framing it seems to me Labour has the ability to challenge the National Security bs for every issue the Tories can wedge it into.

    We see this here with Senator Lambie talking national security with New Zealand. As if we don’t trust NZ on terrorism. So I hope Labor is learning this ability to challenge this stop talking about something because the LNP say National Security. It seems so from Senator Wong’s interview this morning talking about China.

  25. The retired US Navy Adm. William McRaven, a Navy SEAL who oversaw the raid that took out al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in 2011, gave a bleak assessment of President Donald Trump and alleged the commander in chief was gutting the country of the “nation’s principles.”

    In his fiercest condemnation of the president yet, McRaven recounted in a New York Times opinion column, titled “Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President,” a military ceremony he recently attended at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, where he reflected upon the thousands of US service members who marched on the parade field before him.

    “For everyone who ever served in uniform, or in the intelligence community, for those diplomats who voice the nation’s principles, for the first responders, for the tellers of truth and the millions of American citizens who were raised believing in American values – you would have seen your reflection in the faces of those we honoured last week,” McRaven wrote.

    But “beneath the outward sense of hope and duty,” McRaven wrote that “there was an underlying current of frustration, humiliation, anger and fear.”

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/william-mcraven-navy-seal-us-is-under-attack-from-trump-2019-10?r=US&IR=T

    And still Republicans in congress sit on their hands through the impeachment inquiry, rather than taking all the mounting evidence as proof Trump deserves to be removed from office.

  26. Boerwar

    I couldn’t open your SMH link on (?)optimism, but found this under the same title, which suggests that we would be better served by trying to ameliorate the effects of global warming, rather than trying to colonise Mars.

    I think there is a likelihood that by the end of the century there will be a community of people living on Mars. I think they will be people who are thrill-seeking adventurers rather than normal people. I think they will go there, not through a NASA program, but through one of these private space endeavors, like Elon Musk’s SpaceX or Jeff Bezos’s Blue Origin. I don’t think they’ll be followed by large numbers.

    These people on Mars — I think they will be important for the far future of the 22nd century and beyond, because they will be in an environment to which they’re ill adapted. They will have every incentive to use bio-modification and maybe cyborg techniques — linking to electronic machines — to adapt to their alien environment. They will quite quickly become like a new species.

  27. S.V. DáteVerified account@svdate
    8h8 hours ago
    GOLF UPDATE — 30 NOV 2019:

    Trump is at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach.

    He has now spent 225 days on a golf course he owns in his 1,045 days in office.

    It is his 60th day at his course in West Palm Beach.

    Taxpayer-paid golf tab: $114.9 million.

    Emoluments clause?

    Even by Trump’s corrupt standards, this is quite something.

  28. after catching up on Insiders today I can report that the anti-Fran Kelly mob Who this morning unleashed upon her has maintained It’s reputation for being demented.

  29. In my opinion, the description of complaints of antisemitism as ‘weapons’ is in itself antisemitic. The ‘weaponisation’ tag insists that antisemitism is not real; that claims of antisemitism are confected in order to serve other, ulterior motives; that these motives include aiming for the defeat of Labour.

    In fact, UK Jewry is being blamed for defending their political rights and for resisting the anti-Israeli line of some in the Left. Jews will be blamed – they have already been blamed – by the Left for the defeat (if it occurs) of Corbyn’s Labour. This echoes the ‘stab in the back’ rhetoric used against Jews so many times in the past and which really requires that Jews be held to a higher standard of ‘loyalty’ than anyone else.

    There is no doubt at all that Jewish Labour MPs have been accused of disloyalty; have been physically and verbally threatened; denounced for speaking up; and face effective expulsion from Labour because they are seen practically by definition to be disloyal to Corbyn. Jews have every right to object to this. Every right. They have every right to speak against this without being required to prove exceptional loyalty to the ruling faction in UK Labour.

    The repeated characterisation of Jewish Labour as ‘Blairite’ – something we see rehearsed here at PB – is simply another way of describing Jews as ‘untrustworthy’. It is blame-making. This is the sine qua non of antisemitism. This characterisation is accompanied by demands for the political repression of Jewish MPs along with other ‘traitors’.

    This is just disgraceful. But it has happened. Labour is much the worse for wear as a result.

  30. @NPR tweets

    Economists say Bernie Sanders’ and Elizabeth Warren’s proposals to forgive millions of Americans of student debt could boost the economy in significant ways — and help combat income inequality. https://n.pr/34BFEDr

  31. RI

    Yes all legitimate criticisms against Israel are anti semitic according to you and the Tories.

    The Palestinians are not human. While you are at it you can tell Labour why they should not have talked with Sinn Fein to put the Good Friday Agreement in place.

  32. Confessions says:
    Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    As I said at the time, Warren was going to sustain political damage over her health care policy because she hasn’t been able to credibly explain how she plans to pay for it, nor what happens to the millions of Americans with private health insurance.

    -0-

    My goodness! The richest nation in the history of the planet can not afford to pay for the health of all of its citizens.

    And isn’t it a shame that those millions of Americans with private health insurance will have to switch to much cheaper public insurance.

  33. guytaursays:
    Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    @NPR tweets

    Economists say Bernie Sanders’ and Elizabeth Warren’s proposals to forgive millions of Americans of student debt could boost the economy in significant ways — and help combat income inequality. https://n.pr/34BFEDr

    I never understood why placing a debt like this on young people is a positive for the economy and Society in general.

    To me, it places a barrier in front of young people delaying their full participation in the economy and potential decisions like starting a family.

    It started half way through my university career and I certainly was in no position to consider entering the property market until I had extinguished it.

  34. Barney

    Yes. It has also prevented students from even considering entering the education system. Here we see the increase of this approach with the government attacking the last bastions of free education by gutting TAFE and public schools funding.

  35. My goodness! The richest nation in the history of the planet can not afford to pay for the health of all of its citizens.

    Yep. She can have all the logical policies in the world, but will always come unstuck if she can’t credibly explain how she intends to pay for it.

  36. Looks like the marriage of convenience has hit a rocky patch:

    Matt Canavan says Pauline Hanson is using the Westpac scandal to justify her union bill backflip.

    One Nation leader Pauline Hanson is taking Australians for “mugs” and can’t be trusted, a leading government minister says.

    (Canberra Times headline)

    Also, why doesn’t Lambie just introduce a private member’s bill to get rid of Setka (assuming that is constitutional)?

    Jacqui Lambie open to reconsidering support for union-busting laws

    Influential Tasmanian crossbench senator would vote for union integrity legislation if it ensured John Setka was removed as Victorian CFMMEU boss.

    50 minutes ago by Rob Harris (Nine/Fairfax headline)

  37. Frankly, I don’t understand what Corbyn was on about when he opined that the BBC supported ‘Israel’s right to exist’.

    Is this a bad ‘agenda’ to have? Surely the UN settled this nearly three quarters of a century ago? (Apart from various ME nations and organisations that held or hold the view that pushing the Jews into the sea is a desirable outcome.)

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