Possible (or possibly not) federal by-election news:
• The Australian Electoral Commission has petitioned the Federal Court to reject challenges against the federal election results in Chisholm and Kooyong. The challenges relate to Chinese-language Liberal Party signage that appeared to mimic the AEC’s branding, and advised voters that giving a first preference to the Liberal candidates was “the correct voting method”. As reported by The Guardian, the AEC argues that “the petition fails to set out at all, let alone with sufficient particularity, any facts or matters on the basis of which it might be concluded that it was likely that on polling day, electors able to read Chinese characters, upon seeing and reading the corflute, cast their vote in a manner different from what they had previously intended”. This seems rather puzzling to my mind, unless it should be taken to mean that no individuals have been identified who are ready to confirm that they were indeed so deceived. Academic electoral law expert Graeme Orr argued on Twitter that the AEC had “no need to intervene on the substance of a case where partisan litigants are well represented”.
• Talk of a by-election elsewhere in Melbourne was stimulated by Monday’s column ($) from acerbic Financial Review columnist Joe Aston, which related “positively feverish speculation” that Labor’s Shadow Attorney-General, Mark Dreyfus, would shortly quit his Melbourne bayside seat of Isaacs with an eye to a position on Victoria’s Court of Appeal. Aston further reported that Dreyfus hoped to be succeeded by Fiona McLeod, the prominent barrister who gained a 6.1% swing as Labor’s candidate for Higgins in May. Dreyfus emphatically rejected such “ridiculous suggestions” in late August, saying he was “absolutely committed to serving out this term of parliament”, and again took to Twitter on Monday to say he would be “staying and fighting the next election”. Aston remains unconvinced, writing in Tuesday’s column ($) that the suggestions derived from “high-level discussions Dreyfus has held on Spring Street with everyone from Premier Daniel Andrews, former Attorney-General Martin Pakula, his successor Jill Hennessy and his caucus colleagues”, along with his “indiscreet utterances around the traps”.
Federal preselection news:
• Jim Molan has won the endorsement of both Scott Morrison and the conservative faction of the New South Wales Liberal Party to fill the Senate vacancy created by Arthur Sinodinos’s departure to become ambassador to the United States. However, the Sydney Morning Herald reports this is not dissuading rival nominee Richard Shields, former deputy state party director and Insurance Council of Australia manager, and the runner-up to Dave Sharma in last year’s keenly fought Wentworth preselection. Shields’ backers are said to include Helen Coonan, former Senator and Howard government minister, and Mark Neeham, a former state party director. Earlier reports suggested the moderate faction had been reconciled to Molan’s ascendancy by a pledge that he would only serve out the remainder of Sinodinos’s two-year term, and would not seek re-election in 2022.
• Rob Harris of The Age reports the Victorian Liberals are considering a plan to complete their preselections for the 2022 election much earlier than usual – and especially soon for Liberal-held seats. The idea in the latter case is for challengers to incumbents to declare their hands by January 15, with the matter to be wrapped up by late February or early March. This comes after the party’s administrative committee warded off threats to members ahead of the last election, most notably factional conservative Kevin Andrews in Menzies, by rubber-stamping the preselections of all incumbents, much to the displeasure of party members. Other preselections are to be held from April through to October. Also proposed is a toughening of candidate vetting procedures, after no fewer than seven candidates in Labor-held seats were disendorsed during the period of the campaign.
Self-promotion corner:
• I had a paywalled piece in Crikey yesterday which noted the stances adopted of late by James McGrath, ideological warror extraordinaire and scourge of the cockatoo, in his capacity as chair of the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters, which is presently conducting its broad-ranging inquiry into the May federal election. These include the end of proportional representation in the Senate, the notion that parliamentarians who quit their parties should be required to forfeit their seats, and — more plausibly — the need to curtail pre-poll voting.
HR McMaster finally speaks out against Donald Trump on Ukraine scandal and Kurd betrayal
When it came to Syria and Trump’s decision to betray America’s Kurdish allies, McMaster explained that Kurds control 65 to 70 percent of Syria’s oil reserves.
“Our forces there served as a useful means of preventing what we see now, which is a Turkish-Kurdish civil war that has profound political as well as humanitarian consequences,” McMaster said. “What we have in the Middle East right now is the potential for four simultaneous crises.”
He went on to say that the reason Russian President Vladimir Putin is inserting himself in the fight is for the Syrian resources.
“Guess who wants that really badly?” McMaster asked. “Vladimir Putin and the Assad regime. Once you cede control there, you cede influence over what does a post-civil war Syria look like.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/hr-mcmaster-finally-speaks-out-against-donald-trump-on-ukraine-scandal-and-kurd-betrayal/
Thanks for that C@t. I still say the Democrats need to play hard ball with these guys.
frednk @ #515 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 5:28 am
Because of his damned fence-sitting on Brexit. Labor/Labour doesn’t have a leftist issue, it has a fence-sitting issue.
“I have osteoarthritis in my shoulders quite badly and painfully but am resisting going down the opiates route, due to the fact you have to keep increasing the dose to get the same effect.”
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319796.php
Should definitely be available as a treatment option. There’s no good reason to deny someone in pain what could be an effective treatment.
“Because of his damned fence-sitting on Brexit. Labor/Labour doesn’t have a leftist issue, it has a fence-sitting issue.”
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Truth.
frednk @ #516 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 5:53 am
Thanks! A few thoughts on the video.
* Hungary? Why not Australia?
* Human fingers, hand-eye coordination, and general usefulness is amazing.
* The motors are the complex part.
* The motors are small.
* Why aren’t the humans wearing hair nets?
* What happens if one crucial bit fails (like the gluing or stitching), and no human sees it?
* Who built the machines, and maintains them?
* Power of hydraulics is pretty cool.
But I take your point. These are not simple factories. I wonder how much infrastructure you need to set one up? Hungary…
GG
I did not eat that man.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/disability-carer-steals-40-000-worth-of-cash-and-jewellery-from-clients-20191011-p52zou.html
What a woman. I had a quick search for commandments (thou shalt not get caught) and found —
Boerwar @ #607 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 9:18 am
I suppose that is where the word “Prime Rib” came from.
Nooooo! Not two of them. That’s cruel.
Lenore Taylor must be wondering what she did to deserve that!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/11/coalmine-would-take-33bn-litres-of-water-a-year-from-sydney-catchment-agency-warns?CMP=share_btn_tw
The Far Left and the Far Right in Britain both supported the Brexit Referendum.
One lot wanted a dictatorship of the capitalist cronies. They were/ARE going to gut the British people and the British environment. Anarcho capitalists don’t care about traditions. They don’t care about truth. They have no morals. They have no ethics. They debase debate and they debase words. They don’t care about social cohesion. They don’t care about people. They hate anything that compromises what they want. They hate multi-lateralism solutions to multi-lateral problems because they are THE multi-lateral problem. They hate global solutions to global problems because they are THE global problem. They are happy to grow and harness racial hatred, xenophobia and know nothingism. If the Irish and the Scots get in the way the Irish and the Scots can GAFG. Their one rule is that there are no rules for them.
They DO care about one thing: abusing power to enrich themselves. Johnson is perfect for this crew. Absolutely perfect.
The other lot of extremists thought that Brexit would improve their chances of some form of top down dictatorship of the intellectuals. This is Corbyn’s country. Direct election of The Leader has handed the Labour Party to the extremists as direct election of party leaders tends to do. This lot of extremists are excellent haters as well. They hate compromise, they hate multi-lateralism. They hate anyone who is not with the Program. Their Program. Following the Brexit Referendum the first and most important task of the latter was to rid the Labor Party of anybody and everybody who was not with the Program. Talent has nothing to do with it. Out They Must Go. This is being pursued with a personal viciousness that is hard to describe. They have gutted the Labour Party of many a person who has dedicated their lives to the Party. They have nothing but contempt for ‘Blairites’ whoever and whatever they were, or are. They have a visceral hatred for Israel which spills over into occasional bursts anti-semitism. Like their fellow travellers on the extreme Left in the Australian Greens, they are not all that interested in the environment. Corbyn is perfect for this mob. Absolutely perfect.
‘Greensborough Growler says:
Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:22 am
Boerwar @ #607 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 9:18 am
GG
I did not eat that man.
I suppose that is where the word “Prime Rib” came from.’
As far as I am concerned, it was a Wittwash.
“I have osteoarthritis in my shoulders quite badly and painfully but am resisting going down the opiates route, due to the fact you have to keep increasing the dose to get the same effect.”
Thanks to ACT Labor and Greens, the most effective and safe natural pain medication will finally be legally available for people in Canberra from January 2020. Unfortunately Federal Labor is to the Right of the Texan Republican Party on this issue, which is what happens when your orient your platform around whatever dinosaurs still read the Daily Telegraph.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/robert-reich-centrists-simply-cannot-win-the-2020-election/
Has anyone told Scott & Josh and Angus and…
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-will-miss-paris-goals-even-with-a-us75-a-tonne-carbon-tax-imf-20191010-p52zct.html
W
At the last Federal election the Party that ran with that particular idea as part of its core drugs policy managed to convince just 10% of the voters.
90% of voters disagreed with the Greens.
Most of that 90% does not read the Telly.
Labor might one day clean up the NSW division.
It might one day move far enough to the centre to capture 51% of the 2PP.
It might one day pick up more than 4 of the 34 large state regional seats.
It might one day find a climate policy that does not frighten the horse but does move us forward in terms of emissions reduction.
But, if copies all of the Greens policies 100% it might just as well stop bothering altogether because it will be fighting with the Greens for 10% of the vote.
Boerwar @ #616 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 9:35 am
Nobody’s nose is in the truffles I made………….
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/10/thinktank-climate-science-institute-economic-affairs?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX01vcm5pbmdNYWlsQVVTLTE5MTAxMA%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=MorningMailAUS&CMP=morningmailau_email
Watermelon @ #617 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 9:36 am
Not so quickly, Watermelon. Maybe you need to read this first:
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/916216?src=wnl_edit_tpal&uac=175234MK&impID=2119070&faf=1
Legalized Cannabis in Colorado Emergency Departments
A Cautionary Review of Negative Health and Safety Effects
Brad A. Roberts, MD
DISCLOSURES Western J Emerg Med. 2019;20(4):557-572.
It goes on. Extensively.
But you probably can’t get access to it because you’re not a medical professional with access to Medscape. 😐
Suffice to say, a dose of caution is needed.
GG and BW furiously telling us why only being on the right side of politics can win elections.
That factional fight must not be going well for the right.
Boer, you write some utter drivel…yeah the left are great haters and it must be their program that is followed. Of course none of these criticisms can be aimed at the Grouperists. Right wing labourites are the worst haters of the lot. Plus, we have been following their Tory lite group think since the late 70’s. It’s working wonderfully well isn’t it? Only a right winger could bemoan party democracy. Awful isn’t it, Boer, you know when the membership fail to adopt the group think of the right and elect someone who they actually support.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/10/thinktank-climate-science-institute-economic-affairs?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX01vcm5pbmdNYWlsQVVTLTE5MTAxMA%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=MorningMailAUS&CMP=morningmailau_email
Sorry about duplicated post. The first disappeared for a while!
clem
Rudd’s legacy. To win factional fights you have to win the leadership. To win the leadership you have to persuade the members.
Very hard to convince Labor members voting with the Liberals for right wing policies is what Labor is about.
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NEW — Norway, a NATO ally, suspends all arms exports to Turkey over the Syria incursion.
Finland did the same yesterday
Spain may withdraw its Patriots missile systems, deployed in Turkey as part of a NATO mission, in response to Turkey’s Syria incursion — Sources to El Pais newspaper
‘clem Attlee says:
Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:49 am
Boer, you write some utter drivel…yeah the left are great haters and it must be their program that is followed. Of course none of these criticisms can be aimed at the Grouperists. Right wing labourites are the worst haters of the lot. Plus, we have been following their Tory lite group think since the late 70’s. It’s working wonderfully well isn’t it? Only a right winger could bemoan party democracy. Awful isn’t it, Boer, you know when the membership fail to adopt the group think of the right and elect someone who they actually support.’
Whatever. The Extreme Left has got the British Labour Party down to what? Low to mid twenties in the polling? The Extreme Left’s pandering to Little England populism has lost it Scotland – once its intellectual and emotional heartland. The Extreme Left’s adoption of populist xenophobia is a disgrace. Whatever happened to Workers of the World Unite? Replaced with workers of the world can just GAGF.
Greensborough Growler, great pic 🙂
Perhaps the ABC doesn’t even realise it’s being gaslighted. But if they did a little more research…
It’s very funny how BW attacks UK Labour for wanting the same as the Tories. Then tells us how Labor can only win by voting for LNP policies. The local Tories.
Very Trump style talking points.
“Suffice to say, a dose of caution is needed.”
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It needs to be pointed out that the article you have referenced seems to be talking about the legalisation of cannabis for recreational use. The medical treatment discussed in that link I shared earlier is completely different to that. We aren’t talking about you lighting up a joint and blowing smoke rings to cure your arthritis here.
Have a read of this article so you understand the difference between THC and CBD…
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THC – YOU KNOW ME
Most people, even non-cannabis consumers have heard of the THC cannabinoid from either direct experience or in the media, such as on film or via Google. Tetrahydrocannabinol, know as THC for short is the cannabis chemical that’s responsible for giving users the psychoactive effects we commonly refer to as getting “high” or being “stoned”. It’s not all about getting lit with THC though; THC has been proven to push medical boundaries by helping patients reduce pain and shrink tumours, amongst many other benefits.
CBD – SET ME FREE
CBD (cannabidiol) is perhaps the most exciting cannabinoid due to its vast medical benefits. CBD has been studied and researched the most extensively and was one of the first breakthrough discoveries around the cannabis plant. When you hear people discussing cannabis products for therapeutic benefits they are usually referring to this cannabinoid. Currently, many studies exist on CBD, and many companies are actively researching its uses in a clinical setting.
KEY DIFFERENCES
CBD will not get you high. THC will get you high as a kite!
The majority of medical benefits associated with cannabis come from CBD and other non-THC molecules.
CBD has the same chemical formula as THC, but the atoms are arranged differently. This slight variance causes THC to create a psychoactive effect while CBD lacks such an influence.
In other words, CBD dominates Hemp and THC dominates marijuana but remember – they are both from the Cannabis plant!
https://cannabiscompany.com.au/blogs/news/the-difference-between-cbd-thc
clem Attlee @ #625 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 9:49 am
It’s The Greens DLP now. Do keep up.
And wasn’t anyone responding to your ravings anymore under your old nom, clem? So now you have the capital ‘A’. Lol.
Cat
When Labor is voting for LNP legislation and it’s policies it’s Labor that has been taken over not the Greens
guytaur
You’re making me cross. Just because one MP (Marles) says something stupid, you are building it up into a policy statement for the whole party. Settle down.
Did a quick skim of the post did we, Firefox. It was actually your old mucker in the Socialist Alternative faction of The Greens, Watermelon, who suggested marijuana, containing both THC and CBD, for my osteoarthritis, as he big upped the ACT government. So, I replied with the Medscape article about the medical effects of legalised cannabis…and suggested a dose of caution therefore.
And, I think I already know the difference between THC and CBD, thanks for asking, being a Pharmacist and participant in one of Australia’s first pharmacological studies of the effects of THC and CBD, in 1980 at Sydney University. 🙂
Lizzie
Labor has not made voting for LNP legislation it’s official policy yet. It does seem to have learnt from the backlash last time the MP’s tried that.
So it’s a true statement. When Labor starts voting for LNP legislation and policies it’s Labor that’s been taken over.
lizzie @ #637 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 10:13 am
I don’t think he knows how to, lizzie.
My earlier transmission sank without a trace. Here goes again.
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Canada may not have the toxic presence of the Murdochs in its newspaper culture. But the the owners of Postmedia which control a number of the shrinking metropolitan dailies have moved in that direction.
https://www.canadalandshow.com/the-conservative-transformation-of-postmedia/
Today, just 10 days out from the federal election, Postmedia’s flagship daily, National Post was wrapped in a fullpage ad asking readers to throw out the Trudeau government.
https://www.pressreader.com/canada/national-post-latest-edition/20191010
The ad, just large text saying: ITS TIME FOR A NEW PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU THE ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE was sponsored by an outfit called the Canada Growth Council and spruiked lapel badges with the image of Trudeau and the label “Ultimate Hypocrite.”
The broadsheet National Post and its junior tabloid sidekick Toronto Sun provide the daily catechism for Canada’s radio shock-jocks, right-wing nutjobs and social media rumor-mongers. The Australian, anyone? Fortunately, it is outsold by the Toronto Globe and Mail which has a conservative bent but does it responsibly, and the left of center Toronto Star.
Today’s Post, reminds us of the Armageddon-sized font of front-page anti-Labor headlines of the Murdoch tabloids that litter airport lounges and convenience stores across Australia.
It also smells of desperation by the Tories as their polling numbers have not moved since the campaign began and in fact they fell behind Trudeau’s Liberals this week for the first time in six months. In the past 24 hours they dropped a full percentage point.
This despite Justin Trudeau’s “blackfacegate” and the spreading of social media lies such as the charge that the Liberals would remove the current capital gains exemption on family homes (“death tax” anyone?). All of this came on top of an unrelenting right-wing attack on Trudeau over the last year.
Blackfacegate had almost vanished from the radar until Trudeau was interviewed yesterday by a couple of 5-year-olds. One of them, strangely enough, was so well versed in public affairs, or briefed by someone, that she asked the Prime Minister whether he had in fact worn blackface.
So much for the Liberals attempt to put the so-called “scandal” behind them. This wasn’t helped by the media zeroing in on comments a Toronto-area Liberal candidate made in trying to put Trudeau’s actions into some perspective a couple of weeks ago.
And last week they came up with another one: rumours that Trudeau was fired from his teaching job a couple of decades ago because of sexual improprieties. This raged on Twitter and Facebook for several days despite intensive media investigations that showed that the charge was baseless and that he left the position on honourable terms, as stated by the former headmaster. This didn’t stop the Conservatives and their leader Andrew Scheer from continuing to argue that Trudeau still “has questions to answer.”
It had all the earmarks of the Australian Tories and their attempt periodically to bring up rape allegations against Bill Shorten. These clowns operate on their first rule of politics: demonize your opponent.
The depraved Conservative community will sink to any slimy depth to eliminate progressive ideas. We can only wonder where they will go next.
Brilliant piece by Aaron Blake analysing Mike Pence’s efforts to ‘Deflect, Deny, and Deflate’ his own and Trump’s actions wrt Ukraine, the Bidens and Zelensky:
And also to be noted is the lady with Pence in the footage appears to be wearing an Australia lapel pin, again highlighting the increasing closeness between the two countries at the highest levels.
You reckon the Libs might have hired Scott Cam because, with glasses, he looks very much like Morrison and that might enable cam to be a sort of cut out cardboard version of Morrison out in the community?
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/11/coalition-refuses-to-say-how-much-scott-cam-is-being-paid-as-national-careers-ambassador
beguiled again,
The Canadian Conservatives are using the Morrison Conservative playbook almost word for word and imagery for imagery:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/09/the-bland-conservative-dad-who-could-take-down-the-trudeau-dynasty-229667
Great thread by Rick Wilson. Republicans expected to remain firmly in their vegetative state.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1182430961427996673
Greensborough Growler @ #644 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 10:31 am
Cam should be doing it for free. His net worth is ~$78 Million. But grifters gotta grift. 😐
This is happening now in Las Vegas. Could cause a stir in the US.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1181987508202041344
lizzie @ #626 Friday, October 11th, 2019 – 9:50 am
Well spotted. Sounds eerily familiar, doesn’t it?
“And, I think I already know the difference between THC and CBD, thanks for asking, being a Pharmacist and participant in one of Australia’s first pharmacological studies of the effects of THC and CBD, in 1980 at Sydney University. ”
Its a complex business. Did a bit of reading a couple of years ago about:
https://www.charlottesweb.com/
Focused on CBD, but also coma across references where people presenting with the same symptoms get nothing from CBD, but do get relief from a combination of THC and CBD.
If anyone interested there are a mob in Perth called:
https://www.emeraldclinics.com.au/
You can download a referral form from their website that you take ot your doctor to discuss referral.
Have heard interesting things about them and apparently they look at combination therapies with cannabis preps AND other painkillers. Anecdotally…heard a story from one of their tech that they had a client in her 90’s. Taking enough opioids for pain relief that it was getting dubious if she would wake up in the mornings. They put her on a combination therapy of cannabinoids and opioid. Controls the pain and opioid use down 90%.
For full disclosure i actually know some of the people involved in the science and business side of this from wayback but have no personal $ interest Good people.
Anyhow, legal, professional way into this area for those in W.A. and could be a mob to talk to if you are outside W.A. as they will likely know who is doing what elsewhere.