In through the out door

Sarah Henderson returns to parliament via a Senate vacancy and a hotly contested preselection, as Coalition MPs blow bubbles on electoral “reform”.

Two brief news items to relate on Australian matters, as well as which we have the latest of Adrian Beaumont’s increasingly regular updates on the constitutional mess that is Brexit.

Sarah Henderson, who held the seat of Corangamite for the Liberals from 2013 until her defeat in May, will return to parliament today after winning preselection to fill Mitch Fifield’s Victorian Senate vacancy. This follows her 234-197 win in a party vote held on Saturday over Greg Mirabella, a Wangaratta farmer and the husband of former Indi MP Sophie Mirabella. After initial expectations that Henderson was all but assured of the spot, Mirabella’s campaign reportedly gathered steam in the lead-up to Saturday’s vote, resulting in a late flurry of public backing for Henderson from Scott Morrison, Josh Frydenberg, Jeff Kennett, Michael Kroger and Michael Sukkar.

Also, The Australian reports Queensland Liberal Senator James McGrath will push for the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters, of which he is the chair, to consider abolishing proportional representation in the Senate and replacing it with a system in which each state is broken down into six provinces, each returning a single member at each half-Senate election – very much like the systems that prevailed in the state upper houses of Victoria, Western Australia and South Australia in the bad old days before the advent of proportional representation.

Ostensibly motivated by a desire to better represent the regions, such a system would result in a Senate dominated as much as the House of Representatives by the major parties, at a time of ongoing erosion in public support for them. The Australian’s report further quotes Nationals Senator Perin Davey advocating the equally appalling idea of rural vote weighting for the House. The kindest thing that can be said about both proposals is that they are not going to happen, although the latter would at least give the High Court an opportunity to take a stand for democracy by striking it down.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. The High Court surely wouldn’t annul the result in Chisholm, and order a by election? Surely?

    ‘A challenge against the election of embattled Liberal MP Gladys Liu and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg will go to the High Court next week.

    Ms Liu and Mr Frydenberg, who hold federal seats in Victoria, are being challenged in the Court of Disputed Returns over alleged illegal conduct.

    The Liberals authorised controversial signs displayed at Kooyong and Chisholm polling booths on election day this year.’

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/09/12/liu-frydenberg-high-court/

  2. Lars had gone slightly spare with the deflection balls he’s trying to keep up in the air.

    Guandong Gladys is (according to Lars) innocent, because BB’s wife won a shitfight with NSW Health, and C@tmomna met Bob Hawke. Anyway old, white ex-Catholics can’t have an opinion because ScoMo finds it all so offensive.

    So there (in LarsWorld at least).

    If they’re playing the race card so early, it’s starting to look like Gladys doesn’t have answers to the questions she has to front, and pronto.

    We have a Pentecostal Happy Clapper PM, defending a compromised Chinese MP (that he foolishly, and publicly embraced, and then doubled-down on the embrace) over a lay-down misere foreign influence caper that the MP claims is a big frame-up.

    Now WHY would the Chinese set up Guandong Gladys to look like a Communist agent of influence?

    Think about it.

    If you wanted to infiltrate your gal into the Liberal Party as a mole, you’d create a legend that indicated she was a <
    staunch critic of Beijing, not one that indicated she was a fully paid-up apparatchik on the board of the official foreign influence Party outfit back home in Guandong.

    Wouldn’t you?

    The rest us so much pfaff. Accusing Labor of running an old fashioned racist Yellow Peril agenda is as old as the hills, and about as impressive.

    Lars is proving to be a very mediocre little troll.

  3. Bushfire Bill
    says:
    We have a Pentecostal Happy Clapper PM
    _______________________
    Hang on, I thought it was a no go to disparage a person’s religious denomination here?

  4. Correction: I think Boerwar and the Octopus tune was “cows and guns” not “We will fight for bovine freedom” which was in fact part of the lyrics.

  5. It seems that there is a slow drip of information about Liu to both the ABC and Newscorp.

    The detail that is being released would appear to be information that could only be originating from the Victorian liberal party branch which is very interesting in itself.

    Could it be factional ?

    Anyway, given past experience it would be a pretty good bet that more will be on the way.

    At what point will the hunt for the “ exclusive “ take hold in the MSM and blood lust start bubbling ?

  6. sprocket_ @ #402 Thursday, September 12th, 2019 – 6:57 pm

    The High Court surely wouldn’t annul the result in Chisholm, and order a by election? Surely?

    ‘A challenge against the election of embattled Liberal MP Gladys Liu and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg will go to the High Court next week.

    Ms Liu and Mr Frydenberg, who hold federal seats in Victoria, are being challenged in the Court of Disputed Returns over alleged illegal conduct.

    The Liberals authorised controversial signs displayed at Kooyong and Chisholm polling booths on election day this year.’

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/09/12/liu-frydenberg-high-court/

    This is the AEC scandal I’d recalled Liu being embroiled in during the campaign. Glad to see it’s progressing, although it isn’t going to mean anything in respect to Josh or Liu, just provide direction for future election campaigns.

  7. I must say C@t that Lars and Nath make a refreshing break from the wearisome greens vs Labor argument that this blog has descended into since the Great Expectations of the Labor partisans were turned into ordure on May 18

  8. So what does Labor actually believe in:

    1) Progressive taxation – no, they waved through the ScoMo regressive tax cuts?
    2) Protecting the environment – n0, they waved through Adani
    3) Pro Trade unions – will Labor wave through the anti-union legislation?
    4) Welfare Cuts – ???

    Hmmm. Objectively only the Greens will stand on principle!

  9. Steve777 says:
    Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:14 pm
    May 18 was a black day and will be henceforth struck from the calendar…
    ___________________________________________
    It was the third Labor day of fundamental injustice in Australian politics. Anybody remember the first 2?

  10. Nath wrote:

    Hang on, I thought it was a no go to disparage a person’s religious denomination here?

    Not when the person in question makes their religion a central plank if their pitch to the public.

    Religious affiliation, in an adult, is a conscious decision to follow a certain path. Many confuse religion with a sort-of racism, in that once born to a faith, you have no choice but to follow it.

    Not true.

    Morrison was neither born to, nor forced to follow his faith. He was not forced to allow cameras into his church so we could all see his dedication to the liturgy if his faith. He submitted his faith to public scrutiny, quite deliberately. These were conscious decisions on his behalf, used to advance his political cause. He must therefore be judged by them, good or bad.

  11. Lars – so you are Edward / Edwina St John. I do know that you both have never been seen together.

    Are you going to make the movie about the supehero and the octopus against the ravenous green monster, according to Dogma 95 rules?

  12. Bushfire Bill says:
    Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:18 pm
    Nath wrote:

    Hang on, I thought it was a no go to disparage a person’s religious denomination here?

    Not when the person in question makes their religion a central plank if their pitch to the public.

    Religious affiliation, in an adult, is a conscious decision to follow a certain path. Many confuse religion with a sort-of racism, in that once born to a faith, you have no choice but to follow it.

    Not true.

    Morrison was neither born to, nor forced to follow his faith. He was not forced to allow cameras into his church so we could all see his dedication to the liturgy if his faith. He submitted his faith to public scrutiny, quite deliberately. These were conscious decisions on his behalf, used to advance his political cause. He must therefore be judged by them, good or bad.
    __________________________________
    Whatever, more boring bollocks.

    What I really want to know why where the Tamil protestors holding up cockatoo images – are you affiliated with them in some way?

  13. Oakeshott Country @ #413 Thursday, September 12th, 2019 – 9:07 pm

    I must say C@t that Lars and Nath make a refreshing break from the wearisome greens vs Labor argument that this blog has descended into since the Great Expectations of the Labor partisans were turned into ordure on May 18

    Whatever floats your boat, OC. 😐

    I find it at the level of toilet humour. Not my cup of tea, I’m afraid.

  14. Steve777 – dogma95 rules make sense for Das LuftSchloss. The dialogue between say Hawkie and c@t will be more powerful by being real and unvarnished.

  15. Doyley wrote:

    It seems that there is a slow drip of information about Liu to both the ABC and Newscorp.

    The detail that is being released would appear to be information that could only be originating from the Victorian liberal party branch which is very interesting in itself.

    EXCELLENT point.

    There may be some in the Victorian Liberals who’d rather risk minority government (through the potential loss of Chisholn) than see the lady prosper.

    They could be…

    ○ Patriots
    ○ Blind factionalists
    ○ Labor moles bent on causing mischief.

  16. I was thinking of maybe doing the script for Das Luftschloss – with some improv – I can provide the opening line and others can improv the next line and so on and so forth.

    Opening:

    c@t walked excitedly with her marked up copy of the draft ALP local government policy in her left hand towards Hawkie’s door and knocked…

  17. So in future the calendar will go May 17-> February 30 -> May 19.

    No good praying. God, or at least the one worshipped in churches, votes Liberal.

  18. Bushfire Bill @ #429 Thursday, September 12th, 2019 – 9:25 pm

    Doyley wrote:

    It seems that there is a slow drip of information about Liu to both the ABC and Newscorp.

    The detail that is being released would appear to be information that could only be originating from the Victorian liberal party branch which is very interesting in itself.

    EXCELLENT point.

    There may be some in the Victorian Liberals who’d rather risk minority government (through the potential loss of Chisholn) than see the lady prosper.

    They could be…

    ○ Patriots
    ○ Blind factionalists
    ○ Labor moles bent on causing mischief.

    Or Bemused so that he can finally get Jennifer Yang elected to Chisholm!

  19. And so it continues – the HeraldScum has a Guangdong Gladys drop…

    Gladys Liu fails to declare donation to the Liberal Party

    September 12, 2019 8:50pm
    Anthony Galloway, James Campbell and Tom MinearHerald Sun

    Embattled Liberal MP Gladys Liu has failed to declare a $39,675 donation to the Liberal Party’s Victorian division three years ago.

    Embattled Liberal MP Gladys Liu has failed to declare a $39,675 donation to the Liberal Party’s Victorian division three years ago.

    The omission, which is a breach of disclosure laws, follows an earlier failure to declare a $25,000 donation for almost three years.

    The Herald Sun can reveal Ms Liu, renowned in party circles for her fundraising efforts, never filed a return to the Australian Electoral Commission for the $39,675 donation made in 2015-16.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison headed off an attempt by Labor and the crossbench to force the Victorian MP to explain herself in parliament, dismissing questions over her prior links to the Chinese Communist Party as a “smear” with a “very grubby undertone”.

    The Herald Sun can now reveal Ms Liu belonged to yet another Communist Party-linked organisation which helped lead a pro-Beijing rally on the streets of Melbourne about the South China Sea in 2016.

  20. And a link to Crown Casino whale junkets…

    In 2016, Federation of Chinese Associations Victorian president Su Junxi spoke to a 3000-strong rally against The Hague’s decision to block China’s territorial claims in the South China Sea, reportedly saying: “All of the islands of the South China Sea are inherently China’s territory.”

    Last month, the group released a statement on behalf of about 100 Chinese community groups in Victoria which said they were “extremely concerned about a series of recent incidents in Hong Kong”.

    Ms Liu did not comment on the link to the group before deadline, but she mentioned her position in an interview with the Whitehorse Leader in July.

    Another senior figure in the group is Ji Jianmin, who was recently pictured with Mr Morrison and Ms Liu in Melbourne, and is closely linked to Tom Zhou — otherwise known as “Mr Chinatown” — who has been embroiled in the Crown casino junket scandal.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/gladys-liu-fails-to-declare-donation-to-the-liberal-party/news-story/c72ff6da4c00cf1beb461691f91f7d08?nk=aa052ac2220837f23012d56b35f7a733-1568287759

  21. Bushfire Bill says:

    Morrison was neither born to, nor forced to follow his faith. He was not forced to allow cameras into his church so we could all see his dedication to the liturgy if his faith. He submitted his faith to public scrutiny, quite deliberately. These were conscious decisions on his behalf, used to advance his political cause. He must therefore be judged by them, good or bad.
    ____________________________________
    I see. If you could post a more detailed guideline of when it is and isn’t appropriate to attack a persons religious denomination that would be very helpful. Me? I could attack them all mercilessly, so it would be good to know the rules. cheers.

  22. And Murdoch’s Melbourne gutter franchise is milking the Reds Under the Beds line with G-Glad. Will Morrison accuse Murdoch of racism?

    “The Herald Sun can now reveal Ms Liu belonged to yet another Communist Party-linked organisation which helped lead a pro-Beijing rally on the streets of Melbourne about the South China Sea in 2016.

    The Hong Kong-born MP has been a delegate of the Federation of Chinese Associations in Victoria, which describes itself as protecting “the Ancestral Nation’s dignity and interests” and striking back against “anti-China groups and behaviours”.

    Chinese interference expert Professor Clive Hamilton said the group was a “very suspect organisation and has been very active in (Chinese Community Party) influence work in Melbourne”.

  23. The nath-thing wrote:

    I see. If you could post a more detailed guideline of when it is and isn’t appropriate to attack a persons religious denomination that would be very helpful. Me? I could attack them all mercilessly, so it would be good to know the rules. cheers.

    Why do you embarrass yourself so?

  24. Bushfire Bill
    says:
    Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:42 pm
    The nath-thing wrote:
    I see. If you could post a more detailed guideline of when it is and isn’t appropriate to attack a persons religious denomination that would be very helpful. Me? I could attack them all mercilessly, so it would be good to know the rules. cheers.
    Why do you embarrass yourself so?
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    I’m just trying to determine the approved discourses. I understand what you are saying. If a person is born into a faith, then you may not attack them for their religious beliefs. If however, a person converts to a faith, then it is open slather. I just wonder if there are any other caveats or exemptions.

  25. Dropping a guy who bowls 155kmh left handed, with the ball being released close to 10’ high, who has a test strike rate of 49, and an average of 27 runs per wicket, and has taken 214 test wickets … for two flogs who both average over 30 runs per wicket with strike rates of 63 and 76 between them and then sending the opposition into bat on an absolute road … when your test spinner has an injured spinning finger and your otherwise excellent two frontline pave bowlers are fatigued … is somewhat … audacious.

    Either that, or you’ve bet your house with some Indian bookmaker on some kind of extreme event against the odds betting scandal …

    Or you’ve taken up consuming a cocktail of crack cocaine, LSD and benzos in some wild middle aged crisis that suddenly hit you after being on the road for 3 months. Did Langer and Hohns take a side trip across the North Sea to Amsterdam in the last few days?

  26. Nah. Definite betting plunge, with Siddle in on it. Not content with bowling absolute crap he drops a sitter.

    Looks like the bookie has incriminating photos of Trevor, Justin, Pete and a Alpaca in an Amsterdam brothel on Tuesday night. With enough blow to fell a rather large horse.

  27. Steve777
    says:
    Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:34 pm
    I see that Ms Liu has been promoted to “embattled” status.
    ___________________
    Now she must ‘break her silence’.

  28. This Monday night – with NSW Labor facing the Independent Commission Against Corruption, and Liberal backbencher Gladys Liu under pressure over her ties to Beijing, Q&A delves into the murky world of political donations and how influence operates behind the scenes.

    Joining Tony Jones on the panel at our ABC Sydney studios:
    NSW Liberal MP Craig Kelly
    Shadow Minister for Trade Madeleine King
    Author and social analyst Eva Cox
    Former Labor Senator Sam Dastyari

    QandA might actually be worth watching. Though not if the Mouth from the South of Sydney, Craig Kelly gets the lion’s share of the TV time.

  29. The fact remains that Gladys Liu belongs to an organization whose main aim is to infiltrate foreign governments in order to advance the cause of Communist Chinese regional hegemony.

    Now, it seems, she also belongs to yet another organization, with similar aims.

    She has the Prime Minister of Australia pitching her case, openly. He has put his political judgement directly on the line. Even if Liu was merely a past member of such an organization, the utter undefensibility of his position must gradually be seeping into Morrison’s ad-man mentality. Liu is a lemon. Best to send her to the pulping department.

    He is forced into this corner because the legitimacy of his position as leader of a majority government is on the line. Morrison MUST defend Liu, or lose his majority, and his authority.

    But to defend her is to defend Chinese government influence in our political process as a somehow legitimate point if view.

    Can’t be sustained for long.

    Then there is the media myth that his election win made him invincible, and that – at last – we can all get back to being bored with politics. ScoMo is hated. Those who hate him are just waiting for their opportunity.

    All at stake now.

    Crude “Racist!” taunts will not cut it.

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