A weekend to forget for the Coalition has been compounded by Newspoll’s finding that its federal operation is down yet another point, putting Labor’s lead at 55-45. Its primary vote is down a point to 34%, the equal lowest since the 2016 election, while Labor is steady on 40%, the Greens are unchanged on 9% and One Nation are up two to 6%. Scott Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is down slightly, from 43-35 to 42-36. Nonetheless, Scott Morrison’s personal ratings have improved since a fortnight ago, with approval up four to 43% and disapproval down five to 42%, while Bill Shorten is up two to 37% and steady on 50%. The poll will have been conducted Thursday to Sunday and the sample around 1700, although it’s not specified in the online report.
UPDATE: The sample size was 1717.
IoM @ #2476 Wednesday, November 28th, 2018 – 6:27 pm
It didn’t say. Given it had 1000+ respondents, I’d guess it’d be ~3% either way.
I should also have added that the poll was conducted by ReachTel on behalf of the CFMMEU, if that means anything from a psephological perspective.
C@t that’s a high speed train crash in Spain that was caused by connecting a high speed track to a low speed track and then never worrying about the interface between the control systems on the older slower track and the control systems on the newer track. You create a section of track where the driver must be paying attention and this one wasn’t.
C@tmomma
https://www.thelocal.es/20151028/four-year-jail-sentence-sought-for-driver-in-spanish-train-disaster
Perhaps it’s more appropriate to compare observing the Liberal Party at the moment to watching a building implosion in slow motion.
This one from https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/01/06/lifeway-nashville-live-stream-implosion-draper-tower/997702001/
Well I think a century or so distance from the event does make a difference. Perhaps, ethically there is none, but it just feels like there is.
Mr Bowe,
Can you please delete the 9.25pm gif? Thank you.
If Lib MPs like Craig Kelly, that fat George guy from Qld (whose name escapes me), Abbott, Andrews and Abetz and co don’t believe the Liberal party fulfills the policy goals of so-called conservatives, they should put their money where their loud mouths are and join the Bernard party, which openly declares itself to be conservative.
But of course they won’t because they know once they leave the bosom of a mainstream party like the LP they lose their generous taxpayer-funded salaries.
Cud Chewer @ #2501 Wednesday, November 28th, 2018 – 9:52 pm
And the people that did that didn’t know what would be the outcome!?!
Cat
I’m thinking of a metaphoric video more like the road runner cartoons where Wile E ScumMo chases after the Prime Ministership, momentum takes him over the cliff in a cloud of hubris, and then he realises that there is no ground under him, and begins the long plummet to the election far below.
How’s your campaign to get Led Zeppelin I banned going Nath?
Gecko
It was thanks (? 🙂 ) to JTI’s blog that I found the Bludger Lounge. Someone posted a link to PB . He had a good crew following him and there were a lot of LOLs. Pay walled now though.
Cat
And as for the ethics of using such images, yes think of something classy for ScumMo, like when Alan Jones described a previous PM being put in a chaff bag and dumped at sea (like those Argentinian junta victims). So ethical.
citizen @ #2503 Wednesday, November 28th, 2018 – 9:52 pm
citizen, you are probably correct, according to this quote from John Ruddick:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/craig-kelly-planning-to-quit-the-liberal-party-as-government-braces-for-more-defections-20181128-p50iyk.html
nath
Given you joked that every fifth South Australian is a serial killer and one of our departed PBers son was murdered by a serial killer, it’s a bit hypocritical to get too upset about a GIF.
C@tmomma
Much more appropriate; the train is of the right vintage to represent the social views of the hard right.
ratsak
says:
Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:56 pm
How’s your campaign to get Led Zeppelin I banned going Nath?
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Why don’t you scour the newspapers for current tragedies, go to those towns and do a little comedy act? No? I didn’t think so.
Nicholas, in the vein hope that you listen and learn..
Sounds good Nicholas, but increasing the spending power of a group of people without actually creating jobs in the same process is, according to you, potentially inflationary. This was part of your flawed argument against a UBI.
Ditto and also notice that you don’t mention Newstart. Do you propose Newstart as 75 percent of the minimum wage? Because if you don’t you end up having people fall through the cracks. People who are unemployable but nonetheless stigmatised. Yes, even with JG.
But retain complex, invasive, expensive and stigmatising tests for DSP? And similarly keep people on Newstart on a lower income to the DSP and also hound those people with needless activity tests and the like? You’re not going to get everyone onto a JG job. There will always be exceptions.
Thank you for your historical perspective, Dio. 🙂
C@t the one that comes to my mind is this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjIRQ4O4WnE
Diogenes
says:
Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:57 pm
nath
Given you joked that every fifth South Australian is a serial killer and one of our departed PBers son was murdered by a serial killer, it’s a bit hypocritical to get too upset about a GIF.
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I have no idea what you are talking about. There is no comparison. It was obvious that the gif was a massive tragedy, even without knowing the details.
C@tmomma, I think it would be best if you apologised for posting that 2013 train fatality in the pursuit of laughs. We would all think better of you. Mistakes happen – even to the best of us!
🙂
nath
“It was obvious that the gif was a massive tragedy, even without knowing the details.”
It is obvious that serial killers have killed people, even without knowing the details.
I love people who rush to be offended. I’m a lazy bastard and they save me so much effort.
Julia Banks looks right at home on the crossbench. It’s amazing how a woman’s disposition can improve when she escapes the company of misogynistic homophobic AGW denialists. 🙂
It is obvious that serial killers have killed people, even without knowing the details.
It is obvious that nath is a shit bloke, even without knowing the details.
Cud
I guess that building lost touch with its base …
As for what is making the Liberal far right apologists quake in their jack-boots, I do recall predicting a few weeks ago that there would be a few departures and defections once the reality of their situation set in. A group of individuals united in their common belief in self interest, and little else, will not survive long when the group cannot advance their self interest any more.
Further, I have been thinking about ScumMo’s failure to deliver a Federal ICAC, as Turnbull was proposing. Was that one of the major reasons for Dutton knifing Turnbull? Sometimes we invent over complicated ideological arguments when simple greed explains everything. If a Federal ICAC had come in, who knows who would have been threatened by it? Perhaps the Reichspotato himself and the beetrooter have something to fear from a Federal ICAC, and so each has been spoiling for the leadership instead.
Diogenes.
If C@tmomma had made a general comment about the Liberal Party being a ‘train crash’ without the accompanying gif. It wouldn’t have been an issue. The same with me mentioning serial killers without mentioning any particular incident. So get back in your barrel and think about it some more.
Thank goodness nath isn’t in charge of stonings in the Public Square. I’d be a goner! No better way to get rid of your competition. 🙂
ratsak
says:
Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 10:11 pm
It is obvious that serial killers have killed people, even without knowing the details.
It is obvious that nath is a shit bloke, even without knowing the details.
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It’s obvious that ratsak is a shitty musician and we can all see the details.
nath,
https://youtu.be/DL4ZpgiKwq4
Socrates:
Someone this morning posted video footage of the Sky After Dark mob discussing a federal corruption body. The talking heads all agreed that there was too much public service meddling into people’s affairs, and if we introduce a federal ICAC where would it end etc etc.
LIstening to it I couldn’t help but draw the conclusion that those who are opposed are the ones with something to hide, or at least something that if it came out wouldn’t go down too well with the public.
Michael A @ #2520 Wednesday, November 28th, 2018 – 10:07 pm
I’m sorry if anyone was offended.
I guess that building lost touch with its base …
I’ll pay that one! 🙂
C@t:
I wasn’t offended. You illustrated a train wreck using……. a train wreck.
Now, carry on without me. In the real world I have to be up at 5.30am tomorrow to take my son into hospital for a major operation. Some of you whingers don’t know how lucky you are.
There is nothing so loathed by the true punks than ‘middle class punks’. I mean, it’s so sad. Look at the history of Punk to see how the working class punks regard them.
Confessions @ #2534 Wednesday, November 28th, 2018 – 10:19 pm
Lol, the way nath carried on like a prize pork chop, you would have thought I was the one driving the train! 😆
Look, he just lurks looking for opportunities to present themselves so he can take a swing. Meh.
C@t doing the transition into full victimisation.
I’m sorry C@tmomma, I am interested in trains and I knew what it was.
Using gifs and images like that for the purposes of humor is a pretty common practice online. Loathe as I may be to come to C@t’s defense, I can’t say I really see the big deal here. It’s pretty clear she wasn’t intending to mock the victims of the crash.
I see the troll is trying to transition into a concern troll. Won’t work, it will always be an a hole,
@Nath.
I think you overreaching with the GIF thing.
Not understanding Meme’s.
Joe Strummer went to an expensive public school in London. He didn’t seem to suffer too badly.
@Nath
I guess you will get angry at this one then?
Fred Smith (not a bot)

@actualfredsmith
2m2 minutes ago
Replying to @Vic_Rollison
Best wishes and good luck to you both Cat.
Fess
“LIstening to it I couldn’t help but draw the conclusion that those who are opposed are the ones with something to hide, or at least something that if it came out wouldn’t go down too well with the public.”
Exactly. The government is desperate to do something that would be popular (except resigning). Lots of polls show a Federal ICAC would be very popular with many voters on both sides. So why wouldn’t ScumMo create an ICAC? Presto, a popular decision at last. Turnbull was going to propose one, but got rolled. If ScumMo doesn’t create an ICAC it suggests he was one of those opposed to it. Why?
Night all.
In any case, the clip that perfectly encapsulates the Morrison Government for me is this one:
https://youtu.be/tcGQpjCztgA?t=6
And Strummer copped it too:
Mr Strummer said that fellow punks had accused him of hypocrisy because of his middle-class background
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/strummer-was-class-act-in-last-interview-hxdzz2bd36s
Lord Clyde Of HANSARD
@nobby15
53m53 minutes ago
Mr Kelly – a conservative MP from southern Sydney – has privately conceded he has no chance of retaining preselection in the face of a push by moderate Liberal members who have the numbers to remove him.
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C@t:
All the best for your son’s operation tomorrow.