BludgerTrack: 51.8-48.2 to Labor

Nothing doing on voting intention in the latest poll aggregate update, but Malcolm Turnbull’s leadership ratings are continuing to look up.

The only new poll result this week, from Newspoll, landed right on the existing results for BludgerTrack, which accordingly records only the slightest of movements in this week’s update. The biggest of these is a 0.4% increase for One Nation, who were up two points in Newspoll. The only changes on the seat projection result from the fact that my hypothetical election is now one conducted using mini-redistributions, giving Labor extra seats in Victoria and the Australian Capital Territory, and the Liberals losing one in South Australia.

The voting intention readings don’t offer much excitement, but Newspoll’s latest leadership numbers further contribute to an impression of rising popularity (or at least, falling unpopularity) for Malcolm Turnbull, which seemed to kick in two to three months ago. Turnbull’s net approval trend rating is now well clear of Bill Shorten’s for the first time since early 2016, and he has more than recovered from a slight dip in his preferred prime minister rating over New Year.

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Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. BK, I may as well share my own fun travel story.

    It was back in 2003 I found myself a cheap round the world package ticketed by Malaysian Airlines.

    It started off in late evening in Sydney having taken the train from Newcastle in the morning. Arrived around 6am in KL (no sleep). The next flight to Schipol wasn’t scheduled until about 11pm that night local time. So I took the airport train into the city. And I spent the day wandering around in the heat and humidity of KL. The place smells!

    So that evening I get back to KL airport and the aircraft sits there in front of the gate. No boarding. An hour later they tell us its there is a technical issue. We wait another hour. Then we board. The plane taxis off and then sits there for an hour. Then it goes back to the gate. And then we wait for a replacement aircraft. So we leave about 3am.

    Arriving in Schipol there is no time left to explore. Its off to the connecting flight to Copenhagen. Little did I know at this time that my luggage didn’t have the time to follow me. Fortunately I’d packed some shorts and a tee shirt in my cabin bag. Both of them covered with cow spots.

    Arriving in Copenhagen it took an hour to figure my luggage wouldn’t arrive. So the friend from Sweden who was there to pick me up took me into Copenhagen while I waited for my luggage. So here I am, no sleep for 30 something hours, wandering around Copenhagen dressed in shorts and tee shirt covered in black and white cow spots. The locals never batted an eyelid.

    Back to Copenhagen airport. Luggage would arrive the next day. So my friend drove me to his place in Sweden (about 3 hours drive) and finally.. sleep! Only took 50 odd hours. Best sleep I’d had in years!

  2. Guytaur- you still sprout utter bollocks.
    You have a strange twisted view of the IPA and LNP and their policy prescriptions – on the same level as saying the ALP want to impose communism.

    All regulation is called Red Tape – that doesn’t mean all regulation is opposed.

    Your claims that Reagan and Thatcher had anything to do with the conditions that resulted in the Great Depression and the GFC demonstrates a lack of knowledge of those leaders, economics or the specific causes of those events.

  3. Fair point CC, however there is probably a bit more benefit than just saving the admin costs.

    You will probably agree but most of the others on here will not, but I do think it would have to be introduced on a welfare card type basis, or it would end up in the pockets of the ice sellers and club owners. Not sure how this would work but since it could be largely electronic, the admin costs need not be high. If of course you ONLY put rent and utilities on a welfare type of card you can at least ensure people are not homeless and this could be achieved with a minimum of additional admin costs, given that home address is a pretty fundamental requirement for just about everything.

    It will be much harder for groceries unless you get just about every corner store to sign up. The big losers would of course be fresh food farmer’s markets, but again provided there was sufficient cash component then this should not be a major concern.

  4. Crank

    Your denial of evidence is painful.

    Thatcher and Reagan brought in trickle down economic theory alternatively know as neo liberal economics. Its precisely the IPA wish list.

    The whole concept of its all on the individual there must be small government.

    Thats the LNP philosophy and its a failed economics with as much credibility as communism much as you may hate the fact.

  5. Daretotread – so you think a couple, each employed as Police Officers, would be issued a restricted purchasing card? Why?

    The basic tenet of a UBI is everyone gets the same payment. No means testing or taking into account any other factors. Just a payment into an account. No cards. No admin. No social security staff. The ATO would probably be best to administer it. The only questions: are you an Australian Resident or Citizen over 15 and what’s your bank account?

  6. Compact Crank @ #651 Saturday, June 2nd, 2018 – 11:21 am

    Daretotread – so you think a couple, each employed as Police Officers, would be issued a restricted purchasing card? Why?

    The basic tenet of a UBI is everyone gets the same payment. No means testing or taking into account any other factors. Just a payment into an account. No cards. No admin. No social security staff. The ATO would probably be best to administer it. The only questions: are you an Australian Resident or Citizen over 15 and what’s your bank account?

    Fair point CC – again

    Needs some thought.

  7. Guytaur- once again zero evidence- where, ever in the history of LNP governments through out Australia has any ever campaigned for or ever enacted anything like the policies you claim that they want?

    FFS – the LNP are the biggest tax and spenders in our history.

  8. Crank

    A major reason the LNP is in trouble is that they politicised the public service and gutted it. Bringing in consultants instead.

    Why did they do that? They believe in small government. Thus no public service. Surprise they had to employ consultants instead to do the same job because it turns out there is a role for government and regulation.

    Without government and regulation you have anarchy. This is the heart of the problem the LNp is now facing. They are hoist on their own petard as anarchy takes over.

    We see this with the banking royal commission. The gutting of environmental regulations and monitoring services that tell us the impact on the environment.

    Its all the small government mantra as if individuals alone count and society does not exist.

  9. Guytaur- your claims about the public service would be valid but there is a massive public service, it has not been gutted, and if it was only the LNP you might have a point but the ALP uses the Public service and consultants in exactly the same way.

    There is massive amounts of government and regulation.

    The Banking Royal Commission isn’t uncovering behaviours occurring that require regulation- they are occurring despite the regulation.

    There is a huge amount of environmental regulation and monitoring. It may not be to a level you want but less than 10% of Australians vote Greens.

  10. @Zoomster-

    “The push from the far right to make us all individuals is a push to ultimately disempower us. If we’re all doing it for ourselves, fighting our own battles, etc then we are in fact powerless against the forces combined against us. “Union makes us strong’ is a fact, not a slogan.

    I’m beginning to see UBI as part of that pattern.

    It gives you money with no responsibility.

    For example, if you want to discourage women from engaging in the work place, and go back to being housewives, UBI helps.

    If you want to discourage engagement in society, UBI helps. Go off and do your own thing, there’s no responsibility put on you to connect.”

    This!!!

    The real risk of a UBI is not the mad economics. Rather the potential for mass social dislocation.

    I reckon it would be a cornucopia for Meth manufacturers and dealers for instance …

  11. Crank

    There is your problem. You think the public service has not been gutted and that its massive. This is because you have bought that at its heart government by nature is inefficient and is the source of problems not the solution to problems.

    Thus ignoring why we have governments in the first place. You use the very real outdated regulations atet are left on the books out of reducing and not being updated to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    Thats the whole ethos behind the whole “massive” public service claims. As if the public service is a waste of money and has nothing to do.

    This denial of evidence started with economics and is now into denial with the environment to the extent of denying scientific evidence collected. To the point that the right has been gutting the evidence collectors of scientiific fact to enable more denial.

    This all to justify the fact that with Climate Change being reality you cannot have there is no society. There i s only small government as a result thinking.

  12. Andrew Earlwood

    You have just outlined the fear campaign of the UBI.

    Its not a reality. UBI enables more community participation not less.

    Eg. The woman has equal income power as a base in a relationship.

    Therefore the woman is more independent to make choices on child rearing. Be that child care working at home and it also enable the man to make exactly the same choices.

    He does not have to go out to be the breadwinner and have no contact time with the children.

    UBI brings equality in choice it does not disempower people from the community.
    Not having money is a major disincentive to participate in society. That alone creates more dislocation and disempowment from being part of society.

  13. A good friend of mine sent me this :

    Malcolm Turnbull was asleep and dreamt he was visited by Menzies’ ghost. He said, “Bob, how can I make this country a better place?”
    Sir Robert said, “You could start by not letting the RWNJs in the party dictate your policies”.

    Turnbull went back to sleep and dreamed of John Howard.
    He asked in his sleep, “John, how can I convince the people I really want to make this country a better place?” Howard answered, “Try being honest with them, or at least appear to be, as I did”.

    Again Turnbull fell asleep and was visited by Harold Holt’s ghost.
    He said “Harold, what’s the best thing I can do to make this country a better place?”

    Holt replied, “Go for a swim!”

  14. Hi PCC , I can go pretty lose to that one…In Jan 2017 I checked into Emirates Counter at Sydney airport, Final destination Karaganda smack bang in the centre of Kazakhstan (KGF). Lady at the counter punched in KGF and said to me “you are literally the first person in 10 years working at Emirates that I have seen going to that destination code”…bit daunting?!

    So all went pretty well…Sydney to Bangkok, Bangkok to Dubai, Dubai to Almaty, clear customs, and evening 70 minute flight from Almaty to KGF…

    Waiting at luggage…no show for my luggage…Lady at lost luggage punched into computer, and computer said No…Luggage still in Dubai, please come back tomorrow and collect…

    Oh Well worst things can happen I thought…

    Went to hotel, had a nice sleep, and moped around Hotel OZZ (cute name for a hotel in Karaganda) for the day…Only one Air Astana flight each day from Almaty to Karaganda, so I head back out to the airport again at 8 PM…only to be informed that luggage had made it to Almaty, please come back tomorrow to collect…

    Went to work for the day, and went back to airport to finally retrieve my luggage…

    Now this all sounds quite innocuous, however Central Kazakhstan can get pretty cold in winter…My first trip there a couple of months prior, it was -35 C. But thankfully it had warmed up to -25 C by January. I had packed a couple of warm items in my carry on, but not enough to combat this type of cold. Thankfully you could dart pretty quickly between hotel and taxi etc without too much pain, but still a major issue from a risk handling perspective…

    When my luggage finally arrived I ceremoniously dumped my undies in the bin, after wearing same pair for 3 days…

  15. Guytaur- we have three levels of government- which is ridiculous.

    The Federal Government has a Health department with over 3,000 employees but doesn’t run one hospital or health care facilities.

    The Federal Education Department doesn’t run one educational facility but also employs over 3,000 people.

    Both these areas are State responsibility under the Constitution.

    I spent years employed in Government Compliance for one of the largest construction projects in Australia and the world (6th largest global energy project back then). The Red Tape gave me a good job for a few years. So much of what we dealt with was doubled and tripled up on and much was massive over-kill on minor issues or appeared to be “make work” type activity to justify the existence of public service positions. My team was responsible for all approvals outside of the EIS – which had its’ own massive team of Enviros.

  16. The failures that have been identified, documented and published in relation to the financial system are directly related to attempts to substitute regulation for the application of the criminal law.

    The serial, conscious, planned, deliberate and widespread misconduct by banks and their dependants is criminal in nature. Were their behaviours exhibited by private individuals, they would be dealt with criminally and those responsible would be convicted and in many cases imprisoned.

    Corporations – especially financial corporations – are exempt from the reach of the law in ways that really mean they have an immunity. We live in an order in which systemic inequality – legal preferment – is thoroughly entrenched. This is not accidental. It derives from choices made to protect the incomes, wealth and standing of the privileged. We have a baronial class in Australia. They are the owners of banks.

  17. Bernie Sanders: “the Democrat party needs to open its doors to people who work with their hands, who take showers at the end of the day not the beginning of the day.”

  18. Crank

    The LNP uses exactly the same ethos at sate and council level too.

    You see the government itself as part of the problem. You see regulation of markets as part of the problem.

    Exactly why the LNP is in trouble over the live sheep export trade. You don’t want regulations on it.
    You know that if this happens the market is uneconomic.

    Same with coal. Bring reality of the cost with climate change and coal is uneconomic. Bye Bye coal industry.

    The same with the banking industry. Have real regulation that is enforceable to stop the spins and crooks and bye bye to the LNP ethos of small government no regulation.

    The neo liberalism of Thatcher and Reagan has failed. Its discredited policy. Government is not the problem.

  19. “guytaur says: Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 9:58 am”

    I reckon many people below a certain age get their news from Fxyzbook, on to their devices.
    Though some might glance at in store magazines, or those around a coffee shop or McDos. Murdoch Entertainment/ News.com.au overestimate their importance [remember MySpace?] in terms of media compared to Fewfacts or state-owned broadcaster. When I am really bored on my iPad, or in transit, I occassionally see SkyNews till the ads put me off.
    Out of the bus drivers I see a few days a week, only one would have the likes of RWNJs on, the others have their own [music] or ABC. Then again, the NSW state gov seems to want to privatise the buses given how money from toll roads isn’t flooding in.
    And yes, polls can be gamed in terms of questions, channel, selection, etc. Though I like the nuances that PollBludger or Bonham and others have on them.
    Besides over the stupidity of section 44s, professing to be clean but not, Liebor deserved to take its hit to leadership scores.
    I note the bookies on this site seem to have fed Liebor at $1.40 or the fed LyingN(C)P at $2.50, and PHON at something like $81 …

  20. Briefly

    Yep. The problem is unchecked power. Be that corporations operating in a market. A government or even in a domestic situation as we see when people are asserting power through violence.

  21. Confessions says:
    Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    Bernie Sanders: “the Democrat party needs to open its doors

    The unstated presumption is that the doors of the Democratic Party are closed. This is just nonsense.

    Sanders is a crypto-Tory. He campaigns against the Democrats and effectively transfers support to the Republicans. He’s another damned G.

  22. Briefly

    You are mistaking comments by Russian Bots for Sanders.

    Sanders advocates votes for Democrats.

    He does not advocate votes for Republicans.

  23. Briefly,

    The Identity Politics riven hive mind of the DNC has almost zero connection to the old Unionised work force base. It is committed to the cultural destruction of them. That is why Trump won. And unless the DNC recognises this and changed then it’ll be Trump 2020 and likely an actual Republican in 2024.

  24. guytaur says:
    Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 12:26 pm
    Briefly

    Yep. The problem is unchecked power.

    I think the problem is also about the incredible inequality in the distribution and exercise of power. There are extraordinarily large monopolies. In many cases their sales eclipse the output of whole countries. Wealth is concentrated in specific hands in ways not seen since the feudal era. States have countervailing powers. They are politically, legislatively and judicially checked, and as a result they are used very sparingly against the powerful. The powers of States are applied to perpetuate and extend inequalities rather than to ameliorate them.

    In the classical/romantic economic/political/judicial models relied on by the IPA/Libs, inequality is not supposed to be possible. Equality is just assumed to apply at all times, in all places and between all agents. This is a fiction. It is, in fact, a deception. Inequality is determined by and reproduced by the order itself, even though it is destructive in many ways.

    The economy we have is in lots of ways quite inconsistent with democracy, which is why the owners of the economy have spent in the past and continue to spend such energies and fortunes on the subversion of democratic politics; on the defeat of egalitarian parties and programs.

    The autocrats, whether they are the Tories, the Republicans, The Liberals or the Putinistas and the Trumps, are beneficiaries of inequality. Their very existence is owed to the inequalities that are embedded in the system – inequalities that they also declare are theoretically impossible.

  25. guytaur says:
    Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    Briefly

    You are mistaking comments by Russian Bots for Sanders.

    Sanders is a G.

  26. Compact Crank

    “Culture Destruction” is the big lie being sold by the right wing, they love the politics of race and sex, because they use it to distract those poor suckers, whilst they steal from them, pollute their waters, make health care expensive, pay them poorly.

    Truth is other groups who were traditionally treated as second class citizens are starting to be treated more equally, and some just hate it, and is being bastardised into some sort of attack on white people, when the real problem is class warfare between those at the bottom and the top.

  27. briefly – your rant about inequality and Conservatives is a load of rubbish. Inequalities exist and are recognised. Equality of opportunity is a commendable goal. Equality of outcomes is not and is generally unachievable because none of us are the same.

    Nicko – you keep believing that – it just makes the GOP job easier.

  28. Ah Briefly, the voice of the Grouper speaks. So Sanders is a crypto Tory is he? Take a look in the mirror mate. BTW, I thought you had taken your bat and ball and gone home?

  29. Even if there is some sort of attack on white people, I’m inclined to allow it. Statistically white males account for the majority of assholes and/or people who vote for assholes. We’re fair game until more of us get with the program.

    Equality of opportunity is a commendable goal.

    Yes. The lie is that Conservatives are offering anything remotely along those lines.

  30. If Sanders is a Tory then I’m Stalin’s Great Grandson.

    The guy Honeymooned in Moscow during the Cold War FFS.

  31. Compact Crank
    You can keep believing that this “cultural destruction” matters much in reality when day to day living is more about trying to afford a basic living.

  32. The Tories recognise that inequalities of outcome exist. That’s undeniable and is a start. Their model of how the economy works however assumes that inequalities are not self-perpetuating. The claim of the big-C Capitalists is that the system creates mobility. But it doesn’t. Without intervention, the system entrenches immobility.

    The ideologues – the IPA and the Liberals – should be concerned about this. Their model says that systemic inequality cannot arise. Since systemic inequality is present and becoming worse – rapidly becoming worse – their model is necessarily wrong. You’d think they might question their model. But no. Instead, they point away from it and even set about to undermine the conditions which create equality of opportunity. They are apologists for privilege; essentially, they are the chorus of inherited wealth.

  33. briefly – what is this model that you claim says systemic inequalities cannot arise?

    Explain your evidence to support your claim that systemic inequality is getting worse?

    Real wages in Australia have increased significantly over time, absolute poverty on global and Australian measures has fallen markedly and continues to fall and we are a classless society where anyone can be successful.

  34. It’s obvious that if claimants like the Gs and Sanders did not arise spontaneously, the Right would invent them. They do not serve the egalitarian goals of Labor or social democrats in general. They serve the Tories and the kleptocrats.

  35. Sanders helped Trump win.

    Nothing else he has ever done or said matters by comparison.

    By his fruits ye shall know him.

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