With the only poll this week being Essential Research’s best result for the Coalition in 18 months, the BludgerTrack poll aggregate maintains its slow and steady trend this week in shifting 0.2% to the Coalition on two-party preferred. The only change on the seat projection is a gain for the Coalition in Victoria. No new leadership ratings this week, so that’s your lot. Full results as always through the link below.
That was an ‘old-fashioned’ stump speech from Shorten if ever I heard one.
citizen @ #629 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 1:57 pm
How do they become taxpayers losses?
Business Sector Average Annual Wage(2016)
Accommodation, Cafes and Restaurants $56,113
Retail Trade $58,640
Other Services $64,704
Administrative and Support Services $67,642
Manufacturing $72,332
Rental, Hiring and Real Estate Services $72,394
Arts and Recreation Services $73,148
Wholesale Trade $77,241
Construction $78,957
Transport, Postal, Warehousing $82,805
Health Care and Social Assistance $84,183
Public Administration and Safety $85,202
Education and Training $89,950
Professional, Scientific and Technical Services $92,482
Electricity, Gas, Water and Waste Services $94,396
Information Media and Telecommunications $96,652
Financial and Insurance Services $97,235
Mining $139,303
“David Gordo at Blog for Arizona writes—Evolution, Climate Change, and The Big Bang Theory to be Eliminated From Arizona K-12:
Later this year, the Arizona State Board of Education will consider adopting new K-12 standards in both Science and History/Social Studies.
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The consideration of standards for these core subjects has nearly always met increased scrutiny and controversial consideration from segments of the population with different perspectives because these disciplines touch on topics that can potentially challenge a person’s or group’s belief system.
This year is no exception as the new proposed Arizona K-12 Science Standards have invited negative reactions from members of the mainstream education and science community because of the terms and concepts it has attempted to strike away and the closed-door process Superintendent Diane Douglas’s unknown internal reviewers adopted after being presented with the original draft version of the standards.
Forbidden terms, reworded behind closed doors.
Evolution is the most prominent term altered in the proposed new Arizona K-12 Science Standards. Stricken mostly wherever it is mentioned and redefined as the Theory of Evolution, the word is not even included among the many key terms the reviewers added.
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For teachers of this blog
Rex Douglas @ #624 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 1:45 pm
I’d like Santa Claus to give me a Tesla Roadster for Christmas.
Both are just about as likely 🙂
citizen:
Yes, if MPs have to declare spouses’ assets then it makes sense that they have to declare their kids’ assets as well.
Peter Hamby at Vanity Fair writes—“That Is What Power Looks Like”: As Trump Prepares for 2020, Democrats Are Losing the Only Fight That Matters:
On the same day this week that President Donald Trump was tweeting about the F.B.I.’s fictional SPYGATE “scandal” and the special counsel’s WITCH HUNT into the Trump campaign’s relationship with Russia—lies that were splashed across the country’s television and mobile screens in short order—Senate Democrats held a photo-op at the most expensive Exxon station on Capitol Hill. Chuck Schumer, the Senate Minority Leader, was joined by three other suit-wearing Democrats to make the case that Trump’s decision to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal would drive up gas prices. […]
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“Senate Democrats look for traction on gas prices,” was the headline of The Hill’s perfunctory write-up of the event. Did you hear anything about it? Most likely you didn’t. Traction, in the Trump era, is a mighty difficult thing to obtain.
This is always true for the party out of power, forced to reckon with its ideological cleavages, personality conflicts, and the lack of a singular leader who can compete head-to-head with the bully pulpit of a president. But Trump, our first celebrity president, has made the challenge even more difficult for his foes. We are supposed to be living in a time of historic media fragmentation, when the competition for fickle eyeballs is the chief priority for businesses, media companies and politicians. Only Trump, an old-school media hound who still cares about things like magazine covers and leathery-faced 90s-era TV personalities, has figured it out. He dominates our attention universe to the point where he blocks out the sun. It is as depressing as it is remarkable. And it’s no wonder people don’t quite know what Democrats stand for. […]
As Columbia Law Professor Tim Wu writes in his book The Attention Merchants, Trump “cannot be avoided or ignored and his ideas are never hard to understand. He offers simple slogans, repeated a thousandfold, and he always speaks as a commander rather than a petitioner, satisfying those who dislike nuance. With his continuous access to the minds of the public, the president has made almost all political thought either a reflection, rejection, or at least a reaction to his ideas. That is what power looks like.” […]
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The above article describes just how difficult it will be for Democrats
RHWombat, I am glad my reference wasn’t completely wasted, lovely but I always slight preferred, and prepared essays for:
Strange Meeting
It seemed that out of the battle I escaped
Down some profound dull tunnel, long since scooped
Through granites which Titanic wars had groined.
Yet also there encumbered sleepers groaned,
Too fast in thought or death to be bestirred.
Then, as I probed them, one sprang up, and stared
With piteous recognition in fixed eyes,
Lifting distressful hands as if to bless.
And by his smile, I knew that sullen hall;
With a thousand fears that vision’s face was grained;
Yet no blood reached there from the upper ground,
And no guns thumped, or down the flues made moan.
“Strange, friend,” I said, “Here is no cause to mourn.”
“None,” said the other, “Save the undone years,
The hopelessness. Whatever hope is yours,
Was my life also; I went hunting wild
After the wildest beauty in the world,
Which lies not calm in eyes, or braided hair,
But mocks the steady running of the hour,
And if it grieves, grieves richlier than here.
For by my glee might many men have laughed,
And of my weeping something has been left,
Which must die now. I mean the truth untold,
The pity of war, the pity war distilled.
Now men will go content with what we spoiled.
Or, discontent, boil bloody, and be spilled.
They will be swift with swiftness of the tigress,
None will break ranks, though nations trek from progress.
Courage was mine, and I had mystery;
Wisdom was mine, and I had mastery;
To miss the march of this retreating world
Into vain citadels that are not walled.
Then, when much blood had clogged their chariot-wheels
I would go up and wash them from sweet wells,
Even with truths that lie too deep for taint.
I would have poured my spirit without stint
But not through wounds; not on the cess of war.
Foreheads of men have bled where no wounds were.
I am the enemy you killed, my friend.
I knew you in this dark; for so you frowned
Yesterday through me as you jabbed and killed.
I parried; but my hands were loath and cold.
Let us sleep now…”
“bemused says:
Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 2:28 pm
citizen @ #629 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 1:57 pm
Ordinary taxpayers ultimately pay for very bad business judgement. Two related examples:
Bunnings (Wesfarmers) has just opened a new store in a nice new building vacated by Masters in the Canberra airport precinct when Woolworths abandoned the Masters business due to massive miscalculation of the marketplace. Woolworths’ loss ultimately becomes a taxpayers’ loss.
Wesfarmers has just abandoned its UK Bunnings operations at a massive loss due to massive miscalculation of the marketplace. Wesfarmers’ loss ultimately becomes a taxpayers’ loss.
How do they become taxpayers losses?
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Citizen may be alluding to GFC when Big business was bailed out by tax payer money in US. I cannot recall happening in Australia
Average wage for workers in the UK is the equivalent of $50,000 per annum.
To illustrate mean and median, I’ll play with some made up numbers. If the Treasure can do it, so can I.
A company has 20 unskilled workers each earning $1000 per week.
It has 10 tradesmen each earning $2000 each per week.
It has four department managers each earning $4000 per week.
A CEO who is paid $10,000 per week.
The median weekly income at the company (half above, half below) is $1,000.
The average is just below $1,886.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/bill-shorten-labor-will-stop-the-boats/news-story/00a065da9ba2b71d2f79a2acad3641ac
I see that Hastie has been dividing opinion on Bludger in the past 24hrs:
One ‘camp’ seems to think that as a former special forces officer who has seen advice service he deserves respect and his former service record has weight when consisting his actions last week. Notwithstanding his social conservatism.
The other camp seem to see him as little better than a war criminal and a cat’s paw for the Americans.
In my view I think both camps are missing a fundamental point. Namely, that for right or wrong, Hastie unilaterally blew a concentered Government effort to mend a critical bilateral relationship out of the water. Off his own bat. Without warning and for little purpose. Maybe Chauk Wing should have been ‘exposed’, but if so – given his alleged position of influence with the Chinese Goverment – that was a call for the executive government to make. At the very least Hastie – who owes his very political existence to the party of goverment – had an obligation to raise this issue first with his foreign minister and Prime Minister and if he didn’t get satisfaction from that process take it to the Liberal Party room. I’d expect nothing less from an ALP backbencher, especially someone who chaired an important Parliament committee as Hastie does.
Of course, although the above point has been ‘mentioned in dispatches’ by some in the CPG, the significance has been largely missed. Even though there is actual evidence that this relevantion has already damaged Australian businesses and further unravelled the relationship. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and it was a Mike Kelly or even Graham Edwards who made the disclosure and thus undid 6 months diplomatic work of his own government, the CPG would have a field day. Nah, this story would squeeze the life out of every other issue in Canberra for weeks or even months.
Of course, the CPG point is itself a side issue.
For mine the real problem is that both sides of politics are all at sea over China. For once I actually agree with the ‘lib lab. Same. Same’ mem. Of course the conservatives are much worse by an order of magnitude: I.e. Sam Dastyari? I’ll see you and raise you a Andrew Rob.
Both sides think they can walk both sides of the street simultaneously. For 20 years now, both have been prepared to take the coin of Chinese Businesses, pretending that they were just another corporate donor. This was truly epic cognative dissonance. I have always assumed that mainland Chinese business people were asssets of the Chinese Communist Party, whether directly or indirectly.
Whether I am right in all cases in that assumption is besides the point: applying the cautionary principle should have seen both sides act with far more circumspection than they have until now.
That doesn’t make me a chinaphobe or China hawk. It does however make me a china skeptic.
In my view the starting point and still the definitive opinion on China and our relationship with her is take of Stephen Fitzgerald, our first Ambassador to communist China. I particularly recommend his Whitlam Oration from last year.
https://theconversation.com/stephen-fitzgerald-managing-australian-foreign-policy-in-a-chinese-world-74607
That’s one side of the problem – our willful bilateral naivety about China.
The other side of the problem is an equally naive unquestioning coupling to America. As bad as Australia has been on maintaining a proper perspective on China, America has been far worse. Successive Administrations have variously seem China as a (1) a foil to the Russians, (2) a place for American companies to source cheap labour, and lately (3) a threat to American pre-emminance. Handled properly the American-China relationship could have faciliated a soft landing for the Americans at the end of the American Century. It seems amazing to remember now in 2018, that as late as 2011 China was prepared to let and in fact urged America to take the lead in writing the international rules for the 21st century. That attitude effectively ended with Obama’s ‘Asian Pivot’ and, inter alia, the establishment of the US Marine Base in Darwin. However, right up until Trump withdrew from the Asia-Pacific Free Trade Agrement and the Paris Climate Accord China was prepared to write the international rules in partnership with America. No more, however. America has blown it and China has made it increasing clear that the 21 Century rules will be written on its terms. If ‘we’ don’t like it, then the bitter truth is that the Americans and – to a lesser extent as enablers, Australia – is to blame. The answer to the seemingly absurd ‘9 dash line’ isn’t an equally absurd and belecose ‘freedom of navigation’ malarkey. That just underscores the west’s impotence. However, nor is simply rolling over alla Dastyari and saying ‘whatever you want’.
So, where to from here? Well, and I don’t think for a moment this will happen anytime soon,we need to uncouple ourselves from the Donkey that is American policy with respect to China. Our interests are not the same as America’s. Not even close. Moreover, they are an unreliable and increasingly inconsistent partner.
Which brings me back to Hastie. Forget the little problem that he had in the last federal election with some of his campaign material having pictures of of him in uniform. Kelly and Labor’s candidate for Brisbane had the same issue. Frankly none of them should have been treated like they were by the PC warrior faction in the ADF. But I digress. Hastie is the pin up boy for the America First ADF lobby. This lobby is ascendant within the ADF and is 100% China Hawks. This underscores just how imbedded the ADF is with the pentagon – from top to bottom – the ADF operates these days as effectively the ‘4th branch’ of the US Military, with thousands of personnel from both our military and the Americans on permanent rotation with each other. The ADF is in fact an existential threat to Australia ever uncoupling itself from America over China.
However, as difficult as it now seems, inevitably we will have to chose: America, China or dare I say it ‘Australia’. In my view an Australian First policy would prohibit foreign political donations from all countries and foreign companies. It would similarly prohibit strategic assets, like our ports (hello Darwin), electricity or telecommunications being owned by foreigners.
An Australia First foreign policy on the South China Sea would see us point out to the Chinese what the present international rules say, but would urge South East Asian Counties to negotiate an outcome (this in my view is what China really wants. It doesn’t want to enforce the 9 dash line. It wants affected countries to acknowledge that China has eclipsed America and to do a eal with them directly).
We would welcome folk like Chak Wing making large donations to our universities, but not our political parties. We would also do so in the knowledge that his loyalties may be divided.
Ultimately an Australian First China policy would need to be bipartisan. However there is little point talking about the merits of a bipartisan position until the major parties get their own houses in order. Hastie’s intervention simply illustrates, once again, the distance that will need to be traversed before we arrive at that point.
Sorry- had to go out …
If anyone wants to watch Shorten … best to watch all the way to the end …. it is on his Facebook page (scroll down a bit)
Ven
I recently read an article about research into the post “dinosaur killer” meteorite period. The headline findings were that global warming is going to be even worse than we thought. Your link chimes with that.
And YES Rex … I am buying what Shorten is selling … if he achoieves even a quarter of what he intends, it is a helluva lot better than the garbage the current govt has dished up as policy achievement.
Unless you belong to the top 10% you cannot say you’ve had it better since Abbott won.
Rex is just a personality/presidential voter and hes not alone,there are thousands of them.
A couple of you have fallen foul of a hyperactive spam filter over the past few days. Now I’ve cleared your posts through, hopefully it will get the message.
Re my comments on company tax writeoffs and general taxpayers losing out – I could have expressed this better in more detail – blame Sunday afternoon tiredness/laziness.
For “taxpayers” I should have said “the population at large”, both taxpayers themselves and all who rely on government services in one form or another.
It gets back to the impossibility of government providing services unless it collects sufficient taxation revenue or goes into debt. Within that framework it also relates to the taxation mix, which is the subject of much political tussle at the moment. Essentially, one sector paying less tax means an increased taxation burden on other sectors.
It’s not as if Wesfarmers/Bunnings were just unlucky in the UK or Woolworths/Masters were just unlucky in Australia. They both made bad business decisions in the hardware marketplace and, as a direct result, their contribution to government taxation revenue will be down, with consequences for the rest of the population.
poroti @ #657 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 2:43 pm
Want to know what “4 degrees” warming is going to be like? Watch this brief video where experts from NASA etc discuss it …
https://youtu.be/Q3dOT-QySQE
The planet will be unrecognizable, and large parts of it will be uninhabitable. And this could happen in under 50 years 🙁
Andrew_Earlwood, well said. Though they were unmentioned by you, I would be interested in your perspective as regards the Labor elders, Bob Hawke, Paul Keating and Bob Carr, not to mention the resident Sinophile, Kevin Rudd, and their very intimate relations with the Chinese. Do you reckon it’s a good thing, have they done the right thing, or have they gone too far down the rabbit hole with China?
Andrew_Earlwood says:
Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 2:40 pm
Very Good post Andrew.
C@t – those party elders were on the right track during their public careers, but each have been taking Chinese coin since then. What have have to say is generally worth listening too, but … with caveats …
P1:
Thanks for that video. I also doubt that an earth that is on average 4 degrees warmer would actually be habitable, most esp those countries close to the equator.
Not at all.
Governments should be sanctioning the fuck out of Russia for 1) not bothering to identify a commercial airliner before firing on it, 2) shooting down a commercial airliner, and 3) trying to blame Ukraine for it.
“C@tmomma says:
Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 3:16 pm
Andrew_Earlwood, well said. Though they were unmentioned by you, I would be interested in your perspective as regards the Labor elders, Bob Hawke, Paul Keating and Bob Carr, not to mention the resident Sinophile, Kevin Rudd, and their very intimate relations with the Chinese. Do you reckon it’s a good thing, have they done the right thing, or have they gone too far down the rabbit hole with China?
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I was never in a position they were & never will be. It is not just them. It includes people like Howard, Abbott & MT. But IMO, they have gone too far down the rabbit hole with China. So much of our assets are loaned to Chinese long term usually by LNP and also most of our manufacturing sector has moved to China for cheap labour & cheap goods.
More colleagues distance themselves from Barnaby Joyce as the fallout continues from his paid TV tell-all with Vikki Campion.
Doesn’t seem like his mates are impressed.
Police surround Malcolm Turnbull’s Sydney mansion as anti-mining protesters converge, chanting, waving and throwing balls.
A quiet Sunday afternoon for the residents ruined.Ha Ha.
Confessions @ #674 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 3:24 pm
Indeed. The most important thing to note is that this is an average of 4 degrees warmer, including the poles and the oceans. During extreme weather events, some land masses would actually be much more than 4 degrees warmer – perhaps 8 or 10 degrees 🙁
This could happen within the lifetime of some PB posters. It will certainly happen in the lifetime of our children unless we start taking action NOW to prevent it.
A R
Damn right just like we did re USS Vincennes ………………..oh wait.
@ Paroti
The Americans never denied shooting down the airliner. Vincennes was engaged in a gun battle with Iranian Gunboat raiders at the time. The dispute was whether they did so knowing it was a civilian A300 Airbus or an Iranian F14 as claimed.
That’s a huge difference from the Malaysian Airlines issue in my books.
From Wikipaedia:
“On 3 July 1988, Vincennes, under the command of Captain Will Rogers III, was on patrol when it was reported that Iranian Revolutionary Guard gun boats had attacked a Pakistani merchant vessel. Vincennes deployed one of her helicopters to investigate. Shortly thereafter Rogers ordered his ship to move off station 50 miles (80 km) to the north.[3] The destroyer flotilla commander ordered Vincennes to return to her original station. Vincennes’s helicopter had followed the Revolutionary Guard gunboats into Iranian waters, and while maintaining contact with the boats, came under gunfire from the Iranians.[4]
The helicopter crew reported that they had come under fire and with that report, Rogers turned his ship around and, with the frigate Elmer Montgomery, moved to intercept the gunboats. By doing so, Vincennes crossed into Iranian waters herself. As the US ships approached, the Iranian gunboats maneuvered, in what Rogers claimed was a threatening fashion. Rogers requested permission to fire and permission was granted by command, without knowing that Vincennes had crossed into Iranian waters.[4] Vincennes and Elmer Montgomery commenced fire upon the gunboats at 9:43 a.m., scoring several hits on the gunboats, sinking two and damaging another.[5]
While Vincennes was firing on the Iranian gunboats, confusion reigned aboard the ship as the tracking of aircraft in the area had become muddled, between Vincennes and other U.S. ships, and on Vincennes itself.[5][6] Crucially, Vincennes misidentified an Iran Air Airbus A300 civilian airliner, Iran Air Flight 655, as an attacking F-14 Tomcat fighter aircraft. The Iran Air Flight 655 was climbing at the time, and her IFF transponder was on the Mode III civilian code rather than on the purely military Mode II, as recorded by Vincennes’s own shipboard Aegis Combat System. Vincennes fired two radar-guided missiles and shot down the Iranian civilian airliner over Iranian airspace in the Strait of Hormuz, killing all 290 passengers and crew on board.[6]
The Iranian government has maintained that Vincennes knowingly shot down the civilian aircraft.[7] Iran Air Flight IR655 flew every day out of Bandar Abbas—a civil as well as military airport—on a scheduled passenger flight to Dubai using established air lanes. The Italian navy and another U.S. warship, the frigate Sides, confirmed that the plane was climbing—not diving to attack—at the time of the missile strike. The U.S. radio warnings were only broadcast on 121.5 MHz, not air traffic control frequencies and mistakenly identified the altitude and position of the plane, so the Airbus crew, if they were monitoring “guard,” could have misinterpreted the warnings as referring to another aircraft.”
Player One @ #679 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 3:38 pm
Yep! Gotta burn more gas!
poroti @ #680 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 3:39 pm
Good point there.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #681 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 3:46 pm
WOW! Didn’t those yanks make a whole lot of errors.
Of course they have zero tolerance for anyone else’s errors.
P1:
Surely an earth that is an average 4 degrees warmer, today’s extreme weather events would be the new normal? Which would make the ‘extreme weather’ events in a +4 degree world severely catastrophic events. As one of those in the video said, (wtte) we barely have sufficient management systems in place currently to deal with extreme weather events, let alone if those events became even more extreme. Or simply the new normal.
“That’s a huge difference from the Malaysian Airlines issue in my books.”
How do you attribute ‘accidental’ to the US and not extend the same attribution to Russia? Or were some of the reports I ignored during the week suggesting it was deliberate on strong grounds?
Christ! You I really need to spell it out. Russia denied, and continues to deny any involvement or responsibility for what happened.
America never denied doing it. It never denied that is was grievous mistake. It only took issue with the allegation that the action was deliberate.
Obviously, the ‘rights’ and ‘wrongs’ are contesible, but … FFS people. Get you act together.
https://bangordailynews.com/2018/05/23/politics/maine-republicans-make-their-legal-case-against-ranked-choice-voting/
I’ve been following the attempt in Maine to become the first state in the US to use ranked choice (preferential) voting. They’re getting there! In the US they often get ten or more candidates for governor. That makes first past the post absolutely insane.
Confessions @ #685 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 3:57 pm
My last one on this subject for today – it starts to get too depressing!
The following article is a few years old, but still relevant – most of Australia would be uninhabitable at 3 – 4 degrees warming. No-one knows exactly how many people Australia will be able to support, but it won’t be very many. The whole world may only be able to support 0.5 – 1 billion people:
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/too-hot-to-handle-can-we-afford-a-4-degree-rise-20110709-1h7hh.html
And, of course, we are not meeting our target. Neither are most other countries, which is why climate scientists are now talking about 50 years rather than a century to see these kind of impacts.
If climate policy is not the biggest issue in the forthcoming election – and every election after that – then I think we must all be certifiably insane 🙁
WeWantPaul @ #686 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 3:59 pm
The rebel forces had previously downed a few Ukranian war planes.
If I was booked on a plane to fly over an active war zone I would change my booking – if I knew and I am guessing the poor passengers didn’t know.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #687 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 4:08 pm
Settle down.
Yes, it was a Russian missile, but who commanded it? Russian regulars or the rebels?
Who gave the order to deploy it? Who gave the order to fire?
Yes, it is now fairly conclusive that it came from that side.
Why would the Russians want to do it, particularly knowing how the US and others would react?
I don’t think we know the full story yet.
Bemused@3:54pm
Indeed.
Ven @ #692 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 4:35 pm
None of which reduces my sense of outrage at what happened.
P1@4:15pm
“certifiably insane”
Unfortunately we are because look at MT, who is supposed to be our greenest PM. Instead of supporting renewables, is spruiking coal.
Why?
Abbott was trying to please the moderates in the LNP, where as MT is trying to appease the climate change deniars in LNP.
Follow-up post on the Irish referendum result from Adrian Beaumont:
https://www.pollbludger.net/2018/05/27/ireland-abortion-repeal-referendum-66-4-yes-33-6-no/
How will Labor ever counter the media bias?
steve davis @ #670 Sunday, May 27th, 2018 – 3:34 pm
This could have been a very, very serious matter, depending, of course, on whose balls they were.
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For Anyone Interested – Bill Shorten MP Speach At 2018 Victorian State Conferrance 27 May 2018 https://youtu.be/ljjDgAo7F8s via @YouTube
Nasty!
There has been some rubbish talked here about the Beetrooter baby interview.
The $150k payment will be taxable in the hands of Mr Joyce and Ms Campion. I can’t speak to the split of income between Joyce and Campion as I’m not across the detail of tax law in instances such as this one and I’m not inclined to look it up. My professional opinion is that the ATO would take a view that the split of income be heavily skewed to Mr Joyce as the only reason there has been any interest in, or payment for this interview is who Mr Joyce is, used to be and/or might be in the future.
In no meaningful sense is the money income of the infant, nor will the money become his property by some magical process. If, after having paid tax in accordance with the relevant tax laws Joyce and/or Campion choose to put the funds into a discretionary trust for Baby Beetrooter then any income from that trust, and distributions of such will be taxed in accordance with the tax laws that apply at the time the funds are distributed.