Essential Research: 54-46 to Labor

Labor continues to dominate on voting intention, though few seem impressed by its stance on Adani.

The latest fortnightly Essential Research poll has Labor’s two-party lead at 54-46, up from 53-47 last time. Primary vote numbers will be with us later. Also featured are Essential’s monthly (I think) leadership ratings, and they find Malcolm Turnbull little changed at 41% approval (up two) and 41% disapproval (on one), but Bill Shorten improving to 37% approval (up four) and 44% disapproval (down two). Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister is 41-26, compared with 42-25 last time.

Other questions relate to Adani, on which 30% favour the Greens’ position, 26% favour the Coalition’s and 19% favour Labor’s, though it would be important to see the question wording on that one. Other findings related by The Guardian are that 42% support and 39% oppose company tax cuts; that regulating energy prices had 83% support, an “Accord-style partnership” 66% support and boosting Newstart 52% support; and that same-sex marriage is supported by 65% and opposed by 26%. Essential Research’s full report should be with us later in the day.

UPDATE: Full report here. Primary vote gains for the major parties at the expense of other/independent, with the Coalition up one to 36% and Labor up three to 38%, with the Greens down one to 9% and One Nation steady on 8%. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1025.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Europe is vastly more prosperous and more placid now than it was before the creation of the Union. The economy has started growing again and unemployment has fallen sharply. This appears set to continue or even accelerate. The EU economy is large enough and complex enough to drive its own growth; to expand under its own momentum. In as little as 6-7 years, the EU economy will be as large without the UK as it is now with the UK.

    Really, the EU will go on developing, despite the stupidities of the separatists, the nationalist-Rightists, the Putin-meddling, the Trump-o-madness.

  2. I see that GG (@10.26pm) still can’t restrain his instinct to bully and snark. Bemused makes a 100% reasonable comment in response to a Confession’s post about Hinch and Uber, and GG is quick to call him a stalker.

    I really would love to know who introduced the hyperbowl use of “stalker” here on PB. It is a totally inappropriate use of the word, and it is very much “wolf! wolf”. It’s popular but inappropriate use demeans what people who are actually being stalked have to endure.

    How an anonymous person can stalk an anonymous person on a blog is anyone’s guess. Even more so when the person “stalked” never reads what the “stalker” writes.

    In reference to cyberstalking, Victoria’s Crimes Act 1958 s 21A(2)describes it as follows: “The actus reus of stalking is engaging in a course of conduct that includes acting in a way that could reasonably be expected to arouse apprehension or fear in the victim for his safety or that of any other person …..”

    The corresponding US legislation states that stalking involves “ the intent to place that person in reasonable fear of death or serious bodily harm”

    Seriously GG! In the light of the above are you really saying by your repetitious “stalking” snarks at Bemused fit any accepted definition of stalking.

    It is a total misuse of the term, and it is egregious. There are three main accusations which if thrown around unfounded and carelessly or maliciously at a person, have the potential to cause actual distress ……. allegations of sexual abuse (especially of children), domestic violence, and stalking.

    Realising this, I am sure that you will now refrain from calling anyone here a stalker. Unless your intent in so doing is actually malice.

  3. The #PA18 Democrat, Conor Lamb, appears to be anything but a Sanders-style outsider. He’s a former legal prosecutor, an ex-Marine and a social conservative. The Republican base will swing a long way for a “moderate”.

  4. Psyclaw says:
    Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 12:41 am

    The bludgers you mention could do worse than to avoid engaging with each other – or in relation to their respective posts – at all. “confessions” has been avoiding “bemused” for a long time. That’s doubtless a very good idea. Forbearance is the bludger’s friend.

  5. poroti, what happened is I called you out and you lied and tried to squirm out of it. Sorry, but now everybody on PB knows your initial reaction to news of the Skripal poisoning was ‘that the West might have done it’. You didn’t deny that you said it, because we both know you did say it. Instead you opted to build a straw man and generally carried on like a smart arse. Very disingenuous of you.

  6. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Theresa May has pulled the trigger and expelled 23 Russian diplomats
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/uk-to-expel-russian-diplomats-in-response-to-ex-spy-s-attempted-murder-20180315-p4z4eo.html
    John Hewson bemoans the fact that the climate wars between political parties have cost Australia the chance to lead the world on renewables.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/climate-wars-have-cost-us-the-chance-to-lead-20180314-p4z4ck.html
    And the Minerals Council of Australia has released a new energy and climate change policy that refers to coal just once, and calls for “reliable and affordable energy at least cost” while Australia follows a pathway to meet its emissions reduction targets.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/minerals-council-goes-cold-on-coal-in-new-energy-policy-20180314-p4z4bj.html
    Counsel Assisting, Rowena Orr, at the banking royal commission is not one to be taken lightly.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/the-woman-asking-the-hard-questions-at-the-banking-royal-commission-20180314-p4z4ay.html
    And it wasn’t a good day at the commission for NAB yesterday.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/nab-board-aware-of-alleged-fraud-ring-for-months-commission-told-20180314-p4z4a0.html
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/nab-home-loan-applications-adjusted-to-get-them-approved-20180314-p4z4cw.html
    Karen Maley explains why bankers are getting sweaty over the Hayne royal commission. Google.
    /opinion/why-bankers-are-getting-sweaty-over-the-hayne-royal-commission-20180314-h0xfzw
    What the Royal Commission can do if the banks don’t play ball on evidence.
    https://theconversation.com/what-the-royal-commission-can-do-if-the-banks-dont-play-ball-on-evidence-93283
    Robert Gottliebsen writes that Labor is in danger of making a fundamental mistake on its franking credit calculations. Google.
    /business/opinion/robert-gottliebsen/franking-credit-scheme-underlines-alps-lack-of-business-acumen/news-story/d375133d5135d2ba2dc69b756895ed56
    Bill Shorten has pledged to compensate up to 250,000 pensioners for any dollar they lose under his $59 billion dividend imputation policy as the Coalition, retirees and seniors groups accuse Labor over a “brutal and cruel” threat to their finances. Easy, wasn’t it! Now he can get a clear run.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/shorten-promises-pensioners-they-will-get-their-money-back-from-59b-tax-take-20180314-p4z4bg.html
    The Conversation examines whether or not Labor’s proposed tax changes will make the system fairer.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/will-labors-proposed-tax-changes-make-the-system-fairer,11294
    Australia’s institutions are among the least trusted in the world — is there hope? Asks Bruce Keogh.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/cash-for-trash-and-the-joyce-affair-system-trust-bites-the-dust,11295
    This morning The High Court will rule on Katy Gallagher’s citizenship.
    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/high-court-decision-on-katy-gallagher-dual-citizenship-case-expected-on-thursday-20180313-h0xfrv.html
    Dan Andrews has really let fly at Turnbull over the decision to build the armoured vehicles in Queensland.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victorian-government-on-warpath-as-defence-manufacturing-bid-tanks-20180314-p4z4ag.html
    What’s Dutton up to now? He’s got involved with the gun lobby.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/15/peter-dutton-considering-request-for-gun-importers-to-review-rule-changes
    Eryk Bagshaw tells us that Exxon Mobil will not pay tax until 2021, a Senate inquiry has heard, the eighth year in a row it will not contribute to government revenue despite earning $7 billion last year. Never mind that we are virtually giving away our natural resources to companies like this.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/exxon-won-t-pay-tax-until-2021-hasn-t-paid-any-for-years-inquiry-hears-20180314-p4z4ba.html
    Greg Jericho explains that whoever wins the South Australian election will have to deal with a struggling economy and challenging demographics in a state that feels ignored.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/mar/15/south-australia-dragged-down-by-demographics
    Peter Martin examines the arguments about immigration.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/there-s-a-case-for-immigration-and-it-s-not-about-us-20180314-p4z4bk.html
    The Turnbull government has refused to take a position on whether the minimum wage should rise but has warned the workplace umpire an increase could pose “employment risks” for the young, low skilled and long-term jobless.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/government-fails-to-back-minimum-wage-increase-as-labor-calls-for-rise-20180314-p4z4az.html
    Peter Dutton invokes queuing rules.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/peter-dutton-looks-to-help-persecuted-white-south-african-farmers-20180314-p4z4el.html
    The Australian’s David Murray tells us that a former undercover cop has gone public about how Australian border chief Roman Quaedvlieg snuffed out his job prospects. Google.
    /news/border-chief-killed-my-career/news-story/8a204ee47163d472ded0b23c5cfefaf0
    The organisation behind a fledgling voluntary euthanasia campaign in Queensland says it believes private support among MPs is overwhelming, and expects a Victorian-style parliamentary inquiry to be under way by the end of the year.
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/15/voluntary-euthanasia-would-win-overwhelming-backing-in-queensland
    Tillerson was a dead man walking but his replacement may not make life easy for Australia.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/tillerson-was-a-dead-man-walking-but-his-replacement-may-not-make-life-easy-for-australia-20180314-p4z4dr.html
    The SMH editorial is about Trump’s continual churning of key cabinet members and staff.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/trumps-team-churns-over-again-20180314-h0xgy3.html
    Trump certainly knows how to pick them!
    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/world/a-torture-cloud-hangs-over-gina-haspel-trump-s-choice-for-cia-20180314-p4z4bh.html
    Noel Towell on the cage match to the political death inside The Greens.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/torn-to-pieces-the-rage-inside-the-greens-batman-machine-20180313-p4z43u.html
    The Australian’s technology reporter Chris Smith says that in the lead-up to the next election, it’s time for policymakers from all parties to put away the self-serving rhetoric and start developing sophisticated, tech-savvy NBN policies that address last-mile options and show we are the clever country once more. Google.
    /life/personal-technology/nbn-need-for-speed-drives-consumer-discontent/news-story/df6c84a332b1089db44934c2399fc293?from=htc_rss
    Yesterday at Pell’s court hearing his lawyers continued to make accusations.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/george-pell-s-lawyer-suggests-support-group-raised-cardinal-s-name-with-accuser-20180314-p4z4du.html
    US students in the US are taking matters into their own hands and protesting on the inaction on gun laws.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/students-stage-national-walkout-to-protest-gun-violence-in-us-20180315-p4z4ep.html
    Meanwhile . . .
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/teacher-accidentally-fires-gun-in-class-injures-student-20180315-p4z4eq.html

    Cartoon Corner

    David Rowe goes under the Oval Office.

    Mark David hits the spot with this one.

    Peter Broelman farewells Stephen Hawking and welcomes bankers to the royal commission.


    Zanetti does his employer’s bidding once again.

    The rats are deserting the sinking ship.

    Five more from Matt Golding.





    Mark Knight with a “tribute” to Robert Doyle.

    Goodbye Rex.

    Sean Leahy with Hawkins’ worst nightmare.

    Jon Kudelka at Hawkins’ graveside.
    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/8d45bc56d4059310e114d238f8e4cd05
    And you’ll see some more among this lot.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/best-of-fairfax-cartoons-march-15-2018-20180314-h0xhc8.html

  7. maybe Labor can subsidize the cost of PAL and beef bones to offset the dividend tax increase for pensioners? It could be a win win ?

  8. Hearing date set for Trump showdown with Stormy Daniels

    Porn star Stormy Daniels will go to court on July 12 in a bid to dissolve an agreement stopping her discussing an affair she says she had with President Donald Trump, according to court papers published Wednesday.

    Lawyer Michael Avenatti filed a lawsuit on behalf of Daniels last week seeking to toss out the confidential settlement she signed just days before the November 2016 election.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/hearing-date-set-trump-showdown-stormy-daniels/

  9. Conservative crushes Trump for loading his cabinet with suck-ups: ‘The dishonest court of an erratic monarch’

    Conservative author Eliot Cohen is taking stock of President Donald Trump’s most recent White House personnel moves — and he’s not liking what he’s seeing.

    With the ousters of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and top economic adviser Gary Cohn, Cohen believes that Trump is simply trying to oust anyone who will challenge his preconceived notions — and instead replace them with unrepentant brown nosers.

    “If you hope to influence Trump or gain access to his inner circle, you have to go full Mnuchin,” he writes in an essay published by The Atlantic. The Secretary of the Treasury is shameless in his flattery of the president. One suspects that his sycophancy is matched by his cynicism.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/conservative-crushes-trump-loading-cabinet-suck-ups-dishonest-court-erratic-monarch/

  10. Sam Nunberg drops a bomb on Roger Stone: ‘I warned him repeatedly’ about Assange

    During a Wednesday interview with CNN’s Alisyn Camerota, former aide to President Donald Trump Sam Nunberg refuted Roger Stone’s claim that his meeting with Julian Assange of Wikileaks was nothing more than “a joke.”

    “I warned Roger repeatedly during the 2016 summer, ‘do not associate yourself with Julian Assange,” he claimed. “For two reasons: one, at that point it seemed pretty obvious that Hillary Clinton was going to win and there was surely going to be a special counsel into these matters. If there was a Democratic majority in either body of Congress, then he was going to be called. Little did i know that Donald Trump would be elected and we still have a special counsel.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/watch-sam-nunberg-drops-bomb-roger-stone-warned-repeatedly-assange/

  11. Jeff Sessions might fire FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe — just days before he’s supposed to retire

    ven though outgoing FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe is set to retire next week, Attorney General Jeff Sessions might fire him anyway.

    The New York Times reports that an internal recommendation has been given to Sessions arguing that McCabe deserves to be fired.

    Firing McCabe, who has worked at the FBI for the past 22 years, before his retirement would cause him to lose his pension. President Donald Trump has urged Sessions to fire McCabe so he can’t collect.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/jeff-sessions-might-fire-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-just-days-hes-supposed-retire/

  12. Cameron @ #1603 Thursday, March 15th, 2018 – 2:20 am

    poroti, what happened is I called you out and you lied and tried to squirm out of it. Sorry, but now everybody on PB knows your initial reaction to news of the Skripal poisoning was ‘that the West might have done it’. You didn’t deny that you said it, because we both know you did say it. Instead you opted to build a straw man and generally carried on like a smart arse. Very disingenuous of you.

    Well Cameron
    Only an imbecile could seriously believe that Russia would poison their guy in such a manner.

    Honestly use your brains.

    Why in the name of dog should Russia want to kill a guy in such a clumsy heavy handed way. Sure they probably assassinate the odd person but to do it in such a stupid way makes NO SENSE. Not to anyone rational. Even if they wanted to “send a warning” to other spooks there are a thousand more efficient ways to achieve that result – starting from the car accident or home invasion or even the famous umbrella. You do not spray poison around a pub. That is maybe how the yanks or Brits do it but not very sophisticated.

    It is just a few months to the World Cup so there is NO RATIONAL reason for the Russians to undertake such a silly move. To assume that Russia or Putin would act so stupidly is well stupid.

    Now the only possibility that Russia or Russians were involved is:
    1. Russia did it deliberately to provoke the UK so that they could start a diplomatic row and expel some Brits from Russia – specially if some are getting too close to military secrets. If this is the case the Theresa May has been badly played. However I do not consider this highly likely was will not it as possible

    2. Rogue elements of the security services did it, without approval from the foreign service. Possible but in this case a more measured diplomatic response would be needed ie to assist the Russian government uncover and remove the culprits’

    3. Elements of the opposition did it to undermine Putin at the election. This is possible but in this case there was probably some Western government complicity.

    4. Some British based Russians did it for some personal or financial reasons

    So if not the Russians who else and why.

    Well firstly to undermine the Russian election,

    secondly to upset Russia in the lead up to the world cup,

    thirdly to inflame public opinion for the coming war with Russia

    fourthly to derail the Nordlimk project.

    Fifth to be an excuse to seize Russian assets

    These are all clear motives. Less clear are possible motives

    Sixthly to get rid of someone who was a triple agent.

    Seventh (alleged only) to remove someone with links to the Steele dossier

    Now remember the people making these allegations are the SAME guys who told us that Saddam Hussein could kill us all in 4 minutes and were shown to be liars. Moreover they are adept at assassination themselves. Recalll the strange death of David Kelly. If his death was really suicide then I will eat a hat.

  13. ESJ has been reading the SmearStralian – it is groaning with the ‘end of the world as we know it’, that being the proposed removal of cash back for franked dividends. 7 articles today, including those economic luminaries Planet Janet, 7 articles FFS!

    And they all start with “Bill Shorten’s…..”. Somehow, I keep hearing Matthias Cormann accented pronounciation…

  14. The Batman election.

    …On the national stage, the high-profile battle between leader Richard Di Natale, with his centrist approach, and the hard-left NSW Senator Lee Rhiannon looks like it will be fought to the political death.

    The stakes are sky-high for the Greens on Saturday.
    They must capture seats such as Batman, and the next-door electorate of Wills, if they are to bring their balance-of-power ambitions within reach.

    I’m asking myself, if the Greens win the balance of power, what effect will it have? Will they consolidate the power of the Coalition? Currently, it seems likely.

  15. Surely Labor can produce some retired union officials to talk about how wonderful the dividend tax is? maybe some oppo research about the elderly ingrates whinging about it too?

  16. I see the Black Wiggle has latched onto the franked dividends cash back rort.

    “We want to make sure that these proposed changes don’t accidentally end up hurting the very people Labor says they want to help,” Senator Di Natale said.

    “The Greens do have concerns about the possible unintended consequences these changes could have on struggling pensioners in particular and we’ll be looking at this proposal very closely to ensure that they are not worse off.

    “We will use our numbers in the Senate to fix it”

    Labor is furious at the Green’s approach to its policy given the Greens sided with the Abbott government in 2015 to reverse Howard government changes to the pension assets test. The Greens-Coalition deal saved the budget $2.5 billion but saw 100,000 people lose the pension and another 270,000 have their benefits reduced. Labor contends that in Batman, the deal left 1800 pensioners worse off.

    Mr Shorten’s policy announcement was, in part, designed to help Labor in Batman given the policy theme was to go after wealthy retirees and to redistribute the money as income tax cuts and better services. But it is unclear whether it has worked.

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/labors-franking-policy-a-threat-to-holding-batman-20180313-h0xfrf#ixzz59kuy7APr
    Follow us: @FinancialReview on Twitter | financialreview on Facebook

  17. Someone wrote last night that Pal was not the favourite food of the poor, it’s instant noodles.
    Got that right, I think. Pal actually contains nutriments. 🙂

  18. The Kill Bill article in the SMH has this chap. He wouldn’t be one of those vindictive ex’s who make themselves “poor” so as not to have to pay anything to the ##%$$#$#!!!! wife would he ? . If not then he has chosen this voluntarily and should be years from retirement.

    is in his “mid-50s”, came out of a divorce with a modest amount of money which he invested in Australian shares.
    He lives off about $150 per week after paying the rent on his home on the NSW Central Coast of $210 a week.
    He has some casual work, but not enough to have an income tax liability against which he can offset his tax credits.

    https://www.smh.com.au/money/super-and-retirement/labor-voter-fury-over-losing-30pc-of-income-under-shorten-plan-20180314-p4z4b1.html

  19. Donald Trump Jr. is getting divorced from wife: report ……. ( not sure how accurate this is – Grain of Salt for the moment )

    Donald Trump Jr. and his wife Vanessa will be getting divorced, reports Page Six.

    The report, sourced to “close friends” of the couple, says that the couple hoped to stay together while Donald Trump Sr. is in office. However, the younger Donald has been busy running the family business which created added strain.

    Donald Trump Jr.’s odd and confrontational tweets were also an issue and friends are worried about him, the report says.

    Vanessa is reportedly uncomfortable with the Trump family being in the public spotlight

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/donald-trump-jr-getting-divorced-wife-report/

  20. So a teacher carrying a gun ‘accidentally’ injures a student.
    It had to happen. Next we get a massacre by teachers. 🙁

    And back at home, Potatohead is having discussions with the gun lobby.

    Following a meeting with a pro-gun lobbyist in February, Dutton is weighing up whether to establish a so-called “firearms advisory council”, which the gun lobby says would give it “a seat at the table” to advise the government on firearms policy.

    We already *have* a firearms policy. Don’t we?

  21. A nerve agent made only by the Russian Government has been used to attempt the murder of a former Russian spy that Putin had threatened to kill. A Russian assassin or assassins, working for Putin, have carried out a terrorist act in the UK. This is very obvious. Putin holds Russia’s neighbours in contempt and is willing to use them for his own political purposes. This is also very obvious.

  22. Frednk ‘It’s pretty simple really; someone has to pay the company tax. If you get a refund of the company tax instead of the tax you would have paid on the money you got; no-one is paying the company tax. I’m sure all would like to pay no tax.’

    My point was it was unfair as some people get the benefit of the tax credit as they have a tax liability which they can pay with the tax credits.

    Others (say a pensioner with a small share portfolio – which Jenauthor is not a rort) do not get a benefit of the credits.

    So one group, like the pensioner above, is paying for the company the tax, while the other isn’t.

    This is unfair.

  23. Rod Moffatt‏ @Ozlandscapes · 18h18 hours ago

    LNP awards $5 billion contract to build 211 Boxer CRV armoured vehicles in Ipswich QLD for Defence.
    Estimated created jobs: 330 in QLD, 170 in VIC & 140 in NSW
    $23.7 million per vehicle…$7.8 million per job
    What planet is .@TurnbullMalcolm from! #auspol

  24. I really object to posters defining away bullying and stalking and by implication the right of posters here to challenge behaviours they find unacceptable.

    Both are things which can happen and do happen on line. (I have been victim of both, though not here).

    As for the legal definition of stalking, a quick google finds several definitions which are far broader than psyclaw’s examples and which easily fit behaviours exhibited here.

    Long time posters are aware of several posters who left here and cited bemused’s bullying as the reason. In the cases I’m aware of, the posters identified the behaviours they objected to and bemused ignored these requests. At the very least, that’s incredibly rude.

    In one case, bemused approached me privately, asked me why the poster had a problem with him, and we worked through the issue, with bemused finally saying that he understood what was happening and would change his behaviour. The next day it all started again. (That’s when I unfriended him on facebook…)

    I will acknowledge that bemused’s behaviour has improved recently (his reaction to being asked to remove ‘tard’ from his vocabulary, however, should indicate to anyone who is interested how hard it is to get him to change) and that that might mean that more recent or infrequent posters don’t understand the problem.

  25. ‘John Hewson bemoans the fact that the climate wars between political parties have cost Australia the chance to lead the world on renewables.’

    Climate ‘wars’ suggest that both parties were equally culpable.

    The fact is that one party keeps trying to do the right thing on climate change and renewables and the other keeps frustrating this.

    The true ‘climate war’ happened within the Liberal party.

  26. The findings are contained in a preliminary report from UTS Social Economics Professor Jock Collins, who is conducting a research project into how well the 12,000 refugees are faring in Australia.

    “You’ve got dentists, you’ve got engineers, you’ve got people who’ve worked as head of management departments with multinational corporations so they’re very, very successful,” he said.

    “But even when qualifications are recognised there’s a catch-22, they can’t get a job because they don’t have Australian experience and if they don’t have Australian experience they can’t get a job, so this is quite a cruel irony.”

    For the men sitting around all day on unemployment benefits, not doing anything is really very frustrating.

    “We’ve a number of people almost in tears about just demanding, wanting an opportunity,” Prof Collins said.

    The chair of the federal government’s Settlement Services Advisory Council, Paris Aristotle, said the system should be more creative and flexible in assisting qualified refugees.

    “That way people can become self-reliant, independent and contributing members of the community much more quickly,” he said.

    He suggests that could be done through allowing refugees to get additional training or internships and work experience in their industry of practice.

    But he also says refugees on welfare should be allowed to study while they are requalifying as a form (of) mutual obligation for Newstart.

    Shows how the Coalition devalues study but values ‘jobs’. Narrow thinking.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/refugees-in-tears-barriers-for-highly-qualified-syrians-in-australia

  27. Rossmcg says:
    Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    I really do wish people would stop talking about pensioners eating pet food.

    Apart from the fact that it is most likely unpalatable if not inedible ( and I have only ever sniffed it ) it ain’t cheap.

    Instant noodles are the go these days.

    It was on the Overland track in the high country of Tassie a few years ago.

    I was walking with a German bloke I’d met up with, and the subject of food came up. I had a variety of lightweight, nutritious foods. He asked me why, when instant noodles were available, it was all he carried.

    I said, ‘Don’t you get tired of eating the same stuff all the time?’

    His response was ‘No, of course not, don’t you know they come with different flavour sachets?’

    ___________

  28. zoomster @ #1634 Thursday, March 15th, 2018 – 6:46 am

    I really object to posters defining away bullying and stalking and by implication the right of posters here to challenge behaviours they find unacceptable.

    Both are things which can happen and do happen on line. (I have been victim of both, though not here).

    As for the legal definition of stalking, a quick google finds several definitions which are far broader than psyclaw’s examples and which easily fit behaviours exhibited here.

    Long time posters are aware of several posters who left here and cited bemused’s bullying as the reason. In the cases I’m aware of, the posters identified the behaviours they objected to and bemused ignored these requests. At the very least, that’s incredibly rude.

    In one case, bemused approached me privately, asked me why the poster had a problem with him, and we worked through the issue, with bemused finally saying that he understood what was happening and would change his behaviour. The next day it all started again. (That’s when I unfriended him on facebook…)

    I will acknowledge that bemused’s behaviour has improved recently (his reaction to being asked to remove ‘tard’ from his vocabulary, however, should indicate to anyone who is interested how hard it is to get him to change) and that that might mean that more recent or infrequent posters don’t understand the problem.

    Zoomster

    I think we are on the same page here.

    We have both met and talked with Bemused and I think appreciate he is not a bad person or even a nasty one. However he seems to be somewhere on the spectrum regards how his behaviour can affect others. He is stubborn and when pressed defensive.

  29. Pensioners eating dog food are extravagant – and Pal particularly is at the high end of the market.

    I eat cheaper than that.

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