The latest ReachTEL poll for Sky News is the Coalition’s worst result from that pollster this term, showing Labor with a two-party lead of 54-46, out from 52-48 at the previous poll on January 25. On the primary vote, the Coalition is down a point to 33%, Labor is up one to 37%, the Greens are up one to 11% and One Nation are down one to 7%. Malcolm Turnbull’s lead on the forced response preferred prime minister question is 53-47, down from 54-46. The poll was conducted on Thursday, the evening before Barnaby Joyce’s resignation: it found 57% thought he should indeed resign, against 32% who thought he should remain. A question on who should be Nationals leader had Joyce on 23%, Bridget McKenzie on 15%, Michael McCormack on 11%, Darren Chester on 6% and “don’t know” a formidable 40%.
UPDATE: As noted in comments, the Coalition have done well to make it to 54-46 on ReachTEL’s respondent-allocated two-party preferred result. If 2016 election preference flows are applied, the result is around 55.5-44.5.
Really Player 1, Boerwar – it wasn’t that long ago that the ALP including Wayne Swan, Mark Butler et al were wearing sprigs of wattle with Bob Brown and Christine Milne and signing the Alliance document. They were lovely photos.
Of course the ALP will only ever govern in majority or not at all until it decides to govern in minority when convenience suits.
“Logical extension” my arse.
Agree GG,
But the pundits and their repetitious hopes for reset annoy me. Regular polling at 55-45% might help focus them on the fact that the electorate has stopped listening.
one thing being bandied about is that the Libs and the Nats have been in coalition for 95 years. This is untrue because:
1. (As others have pointed out), the Libs were not formed until 1943.
2. The Libs and the Nats tend to split during times when they are not in Government.
Player One
Hey, I just want a person like Katherine Murphy to start analysing policies, like she claims she wants to do, but then spends her precious column inches justifying/defending herself.
Get over it, Katherine. Start reporting, stop deciding.
I don’t think its a case of the electorate stopping listening, its more a case that you won’t even get a hearing if you can’t be united.
There’s no enthusiasm for Shorten at all and he will be a terrible PM (and most likely declared anti-party by the end of his time too a la Rudd and Latham) but in the absence of a stable united show he wins by default.
I find it comical whoever said that the Gillard govt is indicative of how a Shorten govt will behave.
I suppose it might be true if you take away all the bullshit that passed for political commentary and outrage from the opposition and actually analyse what the Gillard govt did/tried to achieve during the years from 2010 – 13.
But the nightmare rubbish that surrounded the govt of that time will not occur unless we get Abbott back as opposition leader and the media play patsy yet again. One would think they’d be slightly immune – just as they are not reacting to, say, the current debt & deficit disaster … even though it is far worse than during the Rudd, Gillard years.
I was thinking that Turnbull handled Trump rather well, but that moment soon passed.
It occured to me that everyone knows you just have to suck up to Trump. And given getting on with POTUS is in everyone’s interest, most people will give you the benefit of the doubt, as long as you don’t suck too hard.
Meeting Trump isn’t really that difficult. The right tie and a few platitudes about mateship.
Trog
The Greens would be worth a book when they achieve something. (Talking about stuff does not count). Which means that the political book scribblers are safe for all time.
But still, your titles notion is attractive;
‘The Greens Party: A Quarter of a Century of Nothing Doing.’
‘Bob Brown: His Achievements in Government.’
‘Christine Milne: Her Achievements in Government.’
‘Di Natale: His Achievements in Government.’
‘The Greens Tragedy: From Effective Environmental Achievers to Trot-Ridden Polemicists.’
‘The Greens: A Study in the Fear of Success.’
‘Greens Policy Making Principles : Everything is the Enemy of Anything.’
‘The Greens: Where True Catholicism Went.’
‘The Greens: Apotheosis of the Knowledge Industry Exploiters’
‘The Thousand Year Greens Reich’
‘The Greens: The Never ending March’
‘The Greens: From Smashed Avocadoes to Pulled Pork’.
Edwina StJohn @ #51 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 4:44 pm
If Bob Browne or even Christine Milne were still around then you might have a point. The Greens were more of a true environmental party in those days, and even so it didn’t really work out well for anyone involved, did it?
At least the ALP learns from their mistakes. The Greens just seem destined to repeat them.
Whats left of the Gillard Government’s “achievements” ?
I think you could maybe say the NDIS but even that had to be funded properly by the Libs ( and was opposed by the lionhearts of the ALP).
Everything else washed away like sand at the beach.
“I think the issue is the Government doesn’t seem to be able to go 90 days without a problem blowing up. ”
Completed tosh ESJ. Experience shows they cant go more than 3-5 days without something blowing up that leads to them inflicting some ridiculous and disproportionate level of self harm.
Bill’s new hairstyle is a vote winner!
‘Question says:
Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 4:52 pm
I was thinking that Turnbull handled Trump rather well, but that moment soon passed.
It occured to me that everyone knows you just have to suck up to Trump.’
With narcissists you never win. You might survive a bit longer but that would be the optimum you could hope for. What I found staggering was that Turnbull was desperate enough to risk a trip to DC to try to restore his flaccid fortunes.
Video of analysis of Reachtel on Sky.
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_5739971623001
GG
As to Sir’s cut, our tastes differ.
I don’t think he did too badly considering that he’s got that inferiority thing going on, and that his and Trump’s relationship after Trump was elected didn’t get off to the best of starts.
GG
lol It’s a mullet!
He should have entered this competition; he would have been a winner:
https://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/winners-crowned-in-nsw-mullet-contest-ng-s-1832828
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/24/labour-alliance-piles-pressure-on-corbyn-brexit-stance
Rationalism is returning to UK politics….
From the Canberra Times website and taken by David Pope in the inner north suburb of O’Conner.
We have a similar duck & ducklings warning sign not far from us to protect the residents of a settling pond along a large drain carrying water from the surrounding hills.
Boerwar
I like that one.
What does it mean?
How come some Poll Bludgers have logical arse extensions ❓
❤❤❤ Think about it ❗
BW,
I think those meetings get arranged well ahead of events, but with Turnbull’s reverse-midas, it won’t surprise me if Trump has a bad week. 🙂
George Christensennhas lost a heap of weight and is finally showing signs of being in favour of changes. He should be in the ministry.
Interesting afternoon here on Poll Bludger. I’ve learnt a lot.
For example:
Criticizing Labor’s position on one particular issue apparently means you want to destroy them.
One party’s supporters are massively disproportionately represented on Poll Bludger… and that party is the Greens!
Disagreeing with C@tmomma on anything whatsoever apparently means you are attacking her personally*.
Boerwar, briefly, and C@tmomma are still really friendly and pleasant individuals, perfectly capable of engaging in polite, non-hysterical discussions with people they disagree with, and definitely don’t ever resort to hyperbole, ad hominem attacks, and accusations of being a “Menzies House troll” on those who support a particular political party that they don’t like. And they clearly do not warrant being called out for their behaviour by more reasonable posters of similar political stripes here.
Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go see Menzies House about all that back pay they owe me.
* Dropping the snark for a second: this in no way means I approve of ESJ’s pathetic needling and bullying of C@t. He is a far more unpleasant individual than C@t could ever be.
briefly
Oh yes “economic rationalists” now where have they got the great unwashed ?
Christensen has lost weight, so is therefore enlightened.
He now knows what a tool is.
Thanks Asha, cheers to you too!
Make sure you get the Sunday Loading paid at Menzies, Asha. They say they don’t pay it but if you insist they’ll cough up.
citizen:
We have the duck signs here, but during turtle hatchling season have these signs on a road around the nesting spots.
ESJ
Do you reckon Garrett will run for Melbourne Lord Mayor?
Greensborough Growler @ #63 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 4:54 pm
You can’t take the Moonee Ponds out of the boy. 🙂
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/wtf-barnaby?utm_term=.kkRZy4q10#.ixKNolQaL
Barnaby Joyce has announced he is resigning as leader of the National Party and deputy prime minister of Australia, so here are 17 of the most WTF moments from his career in politics.
Disagreeing with C@tmomma on anything whatsoever apparently means you are attacking her personally*.
As you wel know, I have agreed with you as many times as I have disagreed with you. And the times I have disagreed with you I have tried to put up evidence to support my position. It’s not my fault if you were wrong! 🙂
Don’t know Pegasus re Garrett.
Given the policy free zone of the ALP its very hard to discern the politics when it descends to being entirely about personalities.
Trog
Several commentators have noted the obvious: the Greens are riddled with wealthy inner burban knowledge economy people who can afford politically to play around. And they do. Another election defeat, another failure to form government is neither here nor there for these sporting folk.
They are nimbies, wealthy, mobile and have little or no real understanding of how poorer workers outside the knowledge economy struggle. They are the analogues of the Russian revolutionaries who went to live and work with the peasants in order to raise their consciousness: not a fucking clue about reality.
The inner-urban knowledge economy folk have wages that are rising far above the rate of inflation.
It does not matter to them if the Greens fail.
They are safe, cosy, insulated and cosseted. They will be able to buy their way out of any climate-induced personal stress. They include, of course, Di Natale who is spending the equivalent of the disposable income of 100,000 poor people to set himself up in a mansion in a Greens enclave.
And one other thing. When push comes to shove they will skip to the Coalition with barely a backwards look.
Edwina StJohn @ #61 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 4:54 pm
The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse is hopefully a lasting legacy.
But sadly the cartel of Rudd/Murdoch/Abbott have destructed the legislative reforms of the Gillard Govt.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ginarushton/politicians-are-trying-to-make-sure-staff-are-safe-from?utm_term=.raeopKPjV#.ct8xqr0Jk
The Department of Finance has drafted a new policy while the Labor Party is reviewing its own policies to make sure political staffers are protected from sexual harassment, deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek has revealed.
Asha Leu says:
Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:03 pm
Interesting afternoon here on Poll Bludger. I’ve learnt a lot.
For example:
Criticizing Labor’s position on one particular issue apparently means you want to destroy them.
ohhhh, Labor enjoys criticism, make no mistake. Every time the Gs attack Labor thy are declaring to the electorate that Labor do not equal the Greens. This is a way of campaigning for Labor. I welcome it.
The error the Gs make is to suppose that by assailing Labor they can improve their own ratings. In fact, the reverse applies. Every time the Gs play that old tune “Blame Labor”, they repel support.
Labor and its electoral base are well and truly aware that the Gs are not to be trusted…at all….ever….on anything. The Gs have become yet another anti-Labor gramophone. It is no wonder the Gs have turned to the privileged elements in a handful of urban centres for solutions to their existential problems. They have alienated everyone else.
ESJ
Ta.
True that Rex. I think JG can rightfully claim that one.
Beyond that it was a wasted 3 years and 3 days.
C@t:
I’m not saying you don’t provide evidence to back up your claims, or that you don’t try to thoroughly argue your case. Simply that you are much too quick to read insults (towards yourself or to the Labor party) into what is often just somebody refuting something you have said, and to turn what could have been a fairly polite discussion into something much more negative.
(I’ll note that I’m not including what I wrote above in that category. That admittedly was rather more insulting than good-natured.)
Edwina StJohn @ #85 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 5:12 pm
If Garrett ran for the Lord Mayoralty, there is no guarantee she would win and if she did win she would be leading a team of that was put together by ex Lord Mayor Doyle (who was previously the Leader of the Liberal Opposition in Victoria back in the “Naughties’). So, my view is it’s not a particularly good fit for her.
My mail is that she has been slotted to run for the new seat that is being created in the Western suburbs of Melbourne. However, this is not guaranteed because of the changes in factional alignments that is creating a disturbance in the force in the Victorian ALP. She might be using the possibility of running for lord mayor as leverage to get pre-selection and not causing a by-election.
briefly @ #69 Sunday, February 25th, 2018 – 4:59 pm
The trickle-downer blairites just can’t accept defeat
poroti says:
Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:04 pm
briefly
Oh yes “economic rationalists” now where have they got the great unwashed ?
The point being that Tory rebels, Lib-Dems, the SNP, Plain Cymru, members of the European Parliament, local government, business organisations, unionists and UK Labor are getting closer to preventing an unbelievable act of self-destruction that is otherwise about to be carried out by the neo-Imperialists, aristocrats, Putinists, authoritarians and opportunists that comprise the Romantic wing of the Tory party.
We certainly have had a breakout of hyperbolic literary flourishes this afternoon on PB.
Lib-Lab: pro torture of asylum seekers
Greens: anti torture of asylum seekers
A 2010 demographic analysis of Greens voters by Possum:
https://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2010/04/15/class-voting-and-broad-left-demography/
GG…surely it’s hyperbowl, as practised by the polemically-talented FPMJG….
Lib-Lab: pro celebration of Invasion Day
Greens: anti celebration of Invasion Day