A ReachTEL poll for Sky News has Labor leading 53-47, unchanged from the last such poll on October 25. However, rounding would have had to have worked pretty hard to prevent Labor gaining a point: the primaries have the Coalition down one to 33%, Labor up one to 36%, the Greens up one to 10%, and One Nation steady on 9%. Malcolm Turnbull’s lead in the forced response two-party preferred question is 52-48, compared with 51-49 last time. Also featured: 69% support for a banking royal commission, with 12% opposed.
ratsak
Any failings of Senator Cameron are more than made up for by Senator McDonald.
Senator Hinch just did a good job asking his questions all but asking if said official was racist by raising the ethnic issue.
Gaven was never really in doubt.
Labor needed a lot of bad luck to not get a majority after the votes posted on Saturday night. They just got the standard sort of luck (some good, some bad), so they got to 47. No one should be surprised by that after Saturday midnight. The Premier certainly wouldn’t be.
SpaceKidette: Gladys B has just put out a statement declaring that Turnbull has her full support. There it is. The #kissofdeath
NSW Premier that is.
Precisely. Passion is great, and as a guy on the barricades to fire up the troops Doogie shines. Just the guy you’d want on the picket line.
But this job requires a different skillset and he doesn’t have it. Watt however is a natural.
@ Boerwar: “…Warrant issued for Clive Palmer’s arrest.”
I got excited there for a minute. Alas, there is a big difference between “warrant issued” and “warrant sought (by liquidators)”
and puh-lease, don’t mention McDonald in comparison to anything. That boofhead could make Trumble look talented.
All in all just another day in the office for Turnbull.
Ratsak
I agree. 🙂
Boerwar says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 10:47 am
briefly
If people want to send $3 per vote to loons like Hanson, fine by me.
That is far better than having a system where our democracy is for sale to the highest bidder.
I have donated to campaigns and helped sell tickets to fund-raisers for campaigns. I given my time and effort to campaigns and made my vehicle and store-room available for posters and other display material. I pay membership dues.
Of course, I’ve never given anything to a candidate or an MP and, apart from the fact that this is not permitted under the rules, never would.
I have to say that because of the rules – where everything is recorded, accounted, disclosed and available to the AEC – and because this support is offered to the Party itself rather than to any individual, none of these contributions could be considered to be “bribes”.
This is free speech as far as I’m concerned. I have a right to express myself politically and co-operate openly and fully with others in pursuit of political goals. The ally of free speech is disclosure of donations – full, timely disclosure – and the requirement that donations be made to accountable entities – to parties or their campaigning systems.
The protection of free speech is absolutely necessary if social organs such as GetUp, environmental groups or unions are to be able to exist and seek to influence events.
The ideal solution to corruptibility of donations to political parties is to ban all such donations, from both individuals and from organizations. If necessary, amend the Commonwealth Constitution to explicitly permit the Commonwealth Parliament to legislate this ban. Then have the federal government fund political candidates and groups based on how many members they have per financial quarter, to the amount of $25 per member per financial quarter. Index that amount to inflation. That way, all political party activity is funded by the federal government based on membership levels.
At the same time, legislate that it is a condition of having a broadcast license to grant all political parties and groups of independents reasonable and meaningful amounts of prime air time at zero or nominal cost. The broadcast spectrum is a public good; therefore it is reasonable to attach public interest conditions to how it is used. There is a compelling public interest in genuinely diverse and competitive political debate and electoral contests. We don’t get that now.
BOConnorMP: .@SenatorCash has immediately tried to shut down questions claiming it may prejudice the AFP’s ongoing investigation into the leak by her office to the media of the ROC raid on the AWU. She must stand down. #auspol pic.twitter.com/zgEGruTJXz
Honestly I don’t understand how even 10% of the population could vote for this mob. It’s really getting to the beyond a joke phase.
Good to see it also affecting the worst NSW government in living memory. And yes, that includes recent ALP governments who although bad were not in the same ballpark.
I sincerely hope that the police catch the guy who is sending bullets and making implied death threats against Joyce.
That, when they catch him, they charge him.
And that he is convicted.
And that, if he is convicted, he is jailed forever.
JoshBBornstein: Cash for No Comment pic.twitter.com/VJilyIxmYe
Dovey @ #1381 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 7:23 am
This might help! 🙂
https://mytuner-radio.com/podcasts/is-it-on-buzzfeed-australia-1205161986
Boerwar @ #1412 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 11:59 am
Over reaction to an idiot.
Nicholas says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:47 am
…Then have the federal government fund political candidates and groups based on how many members they have per financial quarter, to the amount of $25 per member per financial quarter.
It costs a whole lot more than $100 pa per capita to run a party let alone to mount effective electoral campaigns. A bare-bones federal campaign in a contested seat should have a budget of $250k, even allowing that volunteer time is all free. That would run to more than $1 mill per seat if all campaigns in tight seats were fully funded. In no time, the AEC would be spending hundreds of millions per election on party-campaign-support, while social organs such as environmental groups, unions, Get-Up and the like would be deprived of the ability to campaign.
We actually need to make it easier for democratic participation to develop, not more difficult.
Thank you Barney, that worked
bemused @ #1415 Friday, December 1st, 2017 – 12:02 pm
Yeah, that’s so unlike BW.
I think Watt shows that as good as Dougie has been, he won’t be missed that badly when he leaves the Senate.
Briefly
I agree to the caps idea. I also agree you have to have them at realistic levels. Of course as with politicians expenses what the public perceives and what is reasonable can be two different things.
Howwever if its public funding and free air time for advertising is included then I have no problem with that.
Of course this would have to include newspapers giving free opinon columns to at least equal the time journalists get to make comment on poltics to work.
That is a cap on media organisations making poltiical comment in their newspapers instead of just news during an election campaign.
News just in: Frances Bedford is definitely running as an Independent candidate in Florey for the March 2018 SA state election.
Ch63
What does that mean?
It costs a whole lot more than $100 pa per capita to run a party let alone to mount effective electoral campaigns. A bare-bones federal campaign in a contested seat should have a budget of $250k, even allowing that volunteer time is all free
Mandating that all political groups get reasonable and meaningful access to prime media time at zero or nominal cost would massively reduce the financial cost of campaigns.
An additional way to help is to make working for a political party an option that people could take as a minimum wage job under a federal government Job Guarantee. That way, people could assist a political party of their choice and get paid (by the federal government) for their time.
Faulkner was a much greater loss to Labor than Cameron would be, I’m sorry to say.
The Faulkner and Ray pairing was deadly.
workmanalice: So Cash has just admitted that she hasn’t spoken to her former senior media adviser since he resigned and walked out of building on Wed 25th Oct. Her office has not contacted him since and he was never briefed #estimates
workmanalice: Cash says she will have to take any further questions on notice because she doesn’t want to prejudice the ongoing AFP investigation #estimates
Boerwar says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:59 am
I sincerely hope that the police catch the guy who is sending bullets and making implied death threats against Joyce.
Me too.
If the person is apprehended and can be charged, he should be tried and if convicted he should be sentenced by the court. There is no place for violence or such menaces in politics, which constitute a threat to democratic expression.
Politics is tough enough without adding intimidation to the blend. In its way, this is simply the obverse of the payment of bribes. It is using improper means to seek to influence political expression and conduct.
However, I would not declare the person should be locked up forever….’cos I’m opposed to arbitrary imprisonment and/or mandatory terms….for crimes of violence as much as for any other.
MurrayWatt: Cash uses AFP investigation to refuse questions on 2nd staffer’s involvement in leak. How many of her staff are caught up in investigation? twitter.com/workmanalice/s…
I reckon Cash should be sacked from the Senate by Trumble. She is revolting.
From D Crowe in The Oz
‘…
The government is very close to losing Bennelong. Liberal Party polling is said to show Kristina Keneally is neck-and-neck with John Alexander. Labor is outgunning the government on the ground. The combined power of Labor, the Greens, the unions and GetUp! seems likely to deliver the seat to the opposition.
The Coalition must face the real prospect of minority government before it is off to a “mini-election” in the new year. On its present performance, it could struggle to hold power on the floor of the House of Representatives — a likelier scenario for a change of government than an early general election.
…’
Nicholas says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 12:10 pm
Mandating that all political groups get reasonable and meaningful access to prime media time at zero or nominal cost would massively reduce the financial cost of campaigns.
You have a very limited understanding of what campaigning consists of or where the money goes.
An additional way to help is to make working for a political party an option that people could take as a minimum wage job under a federal government Job Guarantee. That way, people could assist a political party of their choice and get paid (by the federal government) for their time.
Very funny…not. That would be an insult to the unemployed if you ask me, and would doubtless be highly counter-productive for all concerned.
“A bare-bones federal campaign in a contested seat should have a budget of $250k, even allowing that volunteer time is all free”
No, it shouldn’t. The only reason you need $250k is because the other party has $250k.
If both parties dropped their spend, say only buying 2 posters per
pole in the electorate instead of 3, there would be no need impact (on voting, obviously less tress cut down).
I’d sort of guessed their internals were awful in Benelong. You don’t usually use Question Time for party political attacks on opposing candidates in nominally safe seats for a by election. Let alone one that should be as trivial as this one.
mashable: Tesla switches on its huge, like REALLY huge, battery in Australia on.mash.to/2AmpIXu pic.twitter.com/KIy3eRWDvM
https://twitter.com/mashable/status/936405017988358145
guytaur says:
Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:20 am
FredNK
Every system has flaws. You weigh them up.
In my view this is better than what we have now. The system we have now does not prevent a Hanson cash grap via elections
I think the solution is for there to be some control over how it is spent.
I thought GetUp! was not interested in Bennelong?
If Turnbull sees he is gone anyway, he now might as well sack Cash and others that have damaged his government. Brandis and Dutton…
FrednK
Certainly. It can’t be open slather. We don’t want to end up with taxpayers money doing what private advertising is doing now.
The whole purpose is to reduce costs of elections and thus barriers to participation to democracy. Leaving some sensible barriers in place of course.
Socrates
Brandis is definitely a Turnbull backer. I wonder though if Brandis has only hung around so far to pass SSM before getting a diplomatic posting.
Im under the impression Brandis will get dropped from the senate ticket as well.
Yeah, money for parties from ECs under the current system should either be capped at auditable expenses or (preferably) be required to be tracked, with limitations on things like salary draws and contract / outsourcing fees.
I prefer the second as I see no reason a party that does well with limited resources should not be allowed to invest the excess in future campaigns.
The name of the new Bank Commissioner flashed past me on Twitter and now I can’t find it again.
michaelkoziol: Scandalous treatment of @workmanalice by Cash, Macdonald and other senators in #estimates this morning for simply doing her (excellent) job
firstdogonmoon: leave @workmanalice alone! twitter.com/michaelkoziol/…
The Nationals at both a state and federal level no longer care about their liberal partners. They are under attack from smaller populist parties such as ON and the shooters and all the Nats now care about is their brand.
In Queensland the nats are tied to the Libs as the LNP and are very concerned the liberal brand is doing them substantial damage. This both the state Libs under Nicholls and federally with Turnbull as PM.
The NSW nationals are coping it from the shooters and the emerging ON parties and blame Turnbull and the infighting within the Libs under Turnbull.
The National believe the liberal party does not resonate throughout rural and regional Australia and does not ” get” country voters and what their needs are.
Simply, the nats do not care what happens to Turnbull and the Libs at a federal and state level. They are on a self preservation crusade.
Why did the NSW national leader speak out today against Turnbull ? Perhaps everything is not rosy within the nationals and some Ste not happy with Barnaby sticking so close with Turnbull. Barnaby himself may be under notice to spread his wings and remember of which party he is the leader. His Damascus moment a day or so ago when he softened his stance on a banking inquiry may have been Barnaby responding to pressure within his party and accepting he needs to promote the nats as their own individual identity.
Then again I may be talking rubbish.
Cheers and a great day to all.
workmanalice: Cash says she has changed the password of her social media accounts after her staffer resigned from her office
lizzie
Is that Jarrod Hayne? 😉