The latest Essential Research poll has Labor’s lead unchanged at 54-46. Beyond that, I’m a bit tied up at this point to discuss the attitudinal results (chief among which is 64% support for a royal commission into banking), but they are as ever summarised in The Guardian, and will be available in complete form when the full report is published later today, together with the primary vote numbers. I believe we should also have YouGov along later today.
UPDATE. YouGov/Fifty Acres: 53-47 to Labor
The fortnightly YouGov/Fifty Acres poll has Labor’s lead out to a new high of 53-47, but this is due to preferences rather than primary votes: Labor and the Coalition are now tied on 32% of the primary vote, after Labor led 34% to 31% last time, with One Nation steady on 11% and the Greens down a point to 10%. There is also a preferred prime minister question recording a 31% tie, with Malcolm Turnbull rated strong by 21%, weak by 41$ and neither by 30%.
The poll records an interestingly high level of support for constitutional change allowing dual citizens to run for office, with 46% in favour and 40% opposed. Also featured are national approval ratings for the Bennelong by-election candidates, both of whom do very well on both name recognition and personal support (40% favourable of John Alexander and 28% unfavourable; 39% and 29% for Kristina Keneally). Forty-six per cent support new religious protection laws in same sex marriage legislation, with 36% opposed; 55% say the government has a responsibility for the safety of asylum seekers on Manus Island, with 36% for the contrary. The poll was conducted Thursday to Monday from a sample of 1034.
The full Essential Research report has the Coalition up a point on the primary vote, to 36%, Labor steady on 38%, the Greens steady on 9% and One Nation steady on 8%. Sixty-four per cent of respondents favoured a banking royal commission, with only 12% opposed. Questions on the economy produced a mixed bag: 33% rate its state as good with 24% for poor, but 39% think it headed on the wrong direction compared with 31% for right. A question about economic issues of concern finds the highest ratings for anything to do with prices, particularly energy prices, and lesser but still substantial concern about income tax and interest rates. Forty-nine per cent supported incentives and subsidies to speed the transition from fossil fuels to renewables, 16% leaving it to the market, and 12% who wanted intervention to slow the process.
emlafudd: @GreenupGary @michaelhallida4 @daveyk317 so as another twt mate said… So Sam rings the Chinese guy to set up a meeting to tell him he’s being monitored…. I know @samdastyari isnt that stupid… Absolutely ridiculous @billshortenmp I’d sue the pricks if it was me
Correction: this is the Bill that’s proposed –
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-29/bill-proposes-to-put-tech-giants-above-the-law/9203876
The ABC report has a stupid headline “put tech giants above the law” – it does nothing of the sort – but is otherwise a sober report.
It’s nowhere near as scary as the ridiculous hype posted above would have it.
I’d probably agree that having the power to temporarily suspend laws is too broad. If they have some specific areas of the law, fine, work out how to draw some sort of reasonable boundary.
But anyway, the SA Law society “expressed concerns” and suggested “a better approach”.
Rau points out:
So, yeah, maybe not an ideal approach to take, but hardly the end of civilization (or “putting tech giants above the law”).
Tony_Burke: I made an election commitment to vote yes. I’ll be keeping my word. My community needs someone who will fight discrimination. I won’t pick and choose and pretend racial discrimination is unacceptable but other discrimination is ok. #auspol twitter.com/whistleblower0…
whistleblower08: @Tony_Burke Parliament’s home page states Members are elected for a 3yr term & when in parliament take part in debate on proposed laws & public policy, representing the views of the people in their electorate. 69.9% of them voted No & you plan on representing them with a Yes?
Shorten_Suite: Another lovely shot of PM with Mr Huang #auspol pic.twitter.com/2mBhKO1jGy
political_alert: ‘Government’s reason for cancelling Parliament blown out of water’, says @Tony_Burke #auspol pic.twitter.com/MEUnRBVROG
So completely disallowable by either house.
Like I said, perhaps not the best way of going about it, but hardly putting anyone above the law.
Hyperbole is best left for the pursuit of humour.
Great, so bishop also confirms that Huang is being monitored by Aust and the USA, the yanks must be shaking their heads in despair.
Ms Bishop on Wednesday said Senator Dastyari must publicly reveal “each and every discussion he had with his Chinese benefactor”, accusing him of “actively seeking to thwart” a potential intelligence investigation.
bemused @ #850 Wednesday, November 29th, 2017 – 11:17 am
They are no more a front for the Greens than GetUp or Avaaz.
Shorter Burke:
Your freedom to practice your religion is not a licence to be an arsehole to other people.
I’m surprised this Weatherill grab hasn’t also attracted the ire of the Convict States. I’m still not sure how the legislation can force a NSW farmer (for eg) to give evidence at a RC in SA.
“PREMIER Jay Weatherill has put forward new legislation he says would ensure a royal commissioner could compel interstate witnesses to co-operate with an inquiry on the River Murray.”
http://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/river-murray-royal-commissioner-gets-powers-to-compel-interstate-witnesses-to-cooperate/news-story/87a278dee1f95d3e2bed42756563d45a
Did Don Farrell vote “Yes”? I can’t see him on the list of No or abstains.
SSM will become law next month thanks to Turnbull.
The process was protracted and ugly. The outcome was beautiful.
Rudd and Gillard could have so moved. But they did not. Shorten opposed the public vote. Most on this site opposed Turnbulls decision and portrayed him as weak, as did many in his own Party.
History will record it as it should – a monumental Turnbull achievement.
Dio
I’m surprised this Weatherill grab hasn’t also attracted the ire of the Convict States. I’m still not sure how the legislation can force a NSW farmer (for eg) to give evidence at a RC in SA.
I dont think he can, allowing states to compel witnesses from other states could lead to tit for tat RCs by states against each other, but shellbell or someone else would be able to answer it better.
@ Al Pal – the survey was to decide whether the Coalition frontbench were entitled to a conscience vote, like Labor had been for quite some time.
Neither Rudd, nor Gillard had the power to call a survey to change Coalition party policy. That power is beyond any Prime Minister.
ellinghausen: Senator Eric Abetz during debate on the Marriage Amendment Bill in the Senate pic.twitter.com/siZzZfkFen
Diogenes @ #863 Wednesday, November 29th, 2017 – 11:41 am
He wasn’t in the chamber.
Dio,
Probably because:
a) how likely to be effective is it really?, and/or
b) the bastards that have been breaking the law deserve to be done over rather than protected by Barnaby and his crooked mates.
How they voted:
Al Pal,
yeah, nah.
Boris
Looks like a legal minefield. I bet the NSW/Qld governments would challenge it in the Federal Court.
Never mind how many became distressed and were hurt by the conversation and the attacks by the No supporters. Turnbull swaggers on.
Well done Senate!
1/2 way there!!
And those who didn’t vote:
Al Pal………….like Howard is remembered for the gun laws, you could be right about Turnbull……….then who remembers all the apology stuff from Rudd? I would think the electorate, fickle beast that it is, well merely view Turnbull as a huge disappointment – a weak leader who is incapable of facing off against his own side. He will rank along with the likes of Bill McMahon, Snedden and others as totally out of their depth when it comes to the brutality of trying to lead the conservative side of politics.
guytaur
Abetz looks like he’s about to throw up like the Vomiting Lady from Little Britain.
AL Pal
It took a decade of work for discrimination introduced by Howard to be removed.
The LNP fought it all the way after HOWARD introduced it.
Overriding yet again the democratic will of an elected parliament in a Territory. This time the ACT
Spinless Turnbull could not even have the House sitting to get it passed today.
Instead its more delay after the interminable wait for dscrimination to be removed with another week of hate to come from the likes of the ACL
Don’t worry the LGBTI community has no doubt the LNP is the party of discrimination. Apparently teaching Noel Pearson along the way.
DIO
Yeah. It was too good not to share.
Hmmm.
Diogenes
I reckon there will be any number of NSW farmers happy to talk to the SA Royal Commission.
They will be the ones doing the right thing with water allocations while the big corporate irrigators please themselves.
Sure the lawyers will do anything to avoid the alleged thieves having to show up but as I said on day one, that will not be a good look.
The RC may have some elements of a stunt by Weatherill but it could be a good stunt.
thats a great picture of abetz guytaur, especially with the folder “love will win” in shot
Hey @TurnbullMalcolm, remember @AndrewRobbAO ? “One of those businessmen was property developer Huang Xiangmo, who along with associates donated $50,000 to Mr Robb’s campaign financing vehicle, the Bayside Forum, on the day the Free Trade Agreement was signed in 2014.”#auspol— MarkJacka (@themarkjacka) November 29, 2017
50k for a FTA, what did the 40k buy
The Libs’ attitude to any small indiscretion of Labor reminds me of this.
Dan Gulberry @ #880 Wednesday, November 29th, 2017 – 3:02 pm
Of course some person, commonly referred to as a journalist is sure to pick on this and even other more obvious questions.
Bill Shorten’s failure to ask for Dastyari’s resignation again shows that he is unfit to be ALP leader, let alone PM.
Such a shame the Dean Smith bill continues to allow discrimination by religious practioners.
practitioners
Rex Douglas @ #885 Wednesday, November 29th, 2017 – 2:23 pm
Why, exactly?
Being able to correctly identify when a phone is being bugged seems like a useful skill.
The real wrongdoers are the people who were bugging the phone to begin with. And also the people who leaked the wiretap records to the media for political gain.
never mind Rex, there’s still time for Shorten to try and bring down a democratically elected government with a fake email- then you would be able welcome him with open arms as PM like you did Turnbull
Greens save the day again. What bloody use is a commission if it doesn’t look at everything.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/greens-throw-support-behind-nationals-bank-inquiry-20171129-gzuzy3.html
Having now read the original Fairfax story on Dastyari, it seems clear that national security information may well have been released, but not by Dastyari – but rather, by the anonymous sources who’ve briefed Fairfax.
Dastyari passed on some Canberra scuttlebutt, but these sources appear to have compromised actual sources and methods. Huang can’t have been sure he was being surveilled after talking to Dastyari, but after reading these leaks he sure does.
Rational Leftist @ #517 Tuesday, November 28th, 2017 – 6:34 pm
Nope. Labor have learned their lesson about campaigning. Campaign early, campaign hard and don’t lift your boot off the throats of the L/NP.
‘Trog Sorrenson says:
Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 3:34 pm
Greens save the day again. What bloody use is a commission if it doesn’t look at everything.
The Greens have thrown their weight behind a commission of inquiry into the baking and financials services sector after securing last minute amendments from Nationals senator Barry O’Sullivan. ‘
It is good to see the Greens Party Government and Prime Minister Di Natale riding to the rescue again.
But why all the fuss about the baking industry?
“The Greens have thrown their weight behind a commission of inquiry into the baking and financials services sector”
Making sure they aren’t coincidentally ‘too busy’ when asked to make wedding cakes with same sex couples as the cake topper.
paaptsef @ #613 Wednesday, November 29th, 2017 – 3:32 pm
We need a federal ICAC with teeth to clean up federal politics.
VE
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