The latest Essential Research poll has Labor’s lead unchanged at 54-46. Beyond that, I’m a bit tied up at this point to discuss the attitudinal results (chief among which is 64% support for a royal commission into banking), but they are as ever summarised in The Guardian, and will be available in complete form when the full report is published later today, together with the primary vote numbers. I believe we should also have YouGov along later today.
UPDATE. YouGov/Fifty Acres: 53-47 to Labor
The fortnightly YouGov/Fifty Acres poll has Labor’s lead out to a new high of 53-47, but this is due to preferences rather than primary votes: Labor and the Coalition are now tied on 32% of the primary vote, after Labor led 34% to 31% last time, with One Nation steady on 11% and the Greens down a point to 10%. There is also a preferred prime minister question recording a 31% tie, with Malcolm Turnbull rated strong by 21%, weak by 41$ and neither by 30%.
The poll records an interestingly high level of support for constitutional change allowing dual citizens to run for office, with 46% in favour and 40% opposed. Also featured are national approval ratings for the Bennelong by-election candidates, both of whom do very well on both name recognition and personal support (40% favourable of John Alexander and 28% unfavourable; 39% and 29% for Kristina Keneally). Forty-six per cent support new religious protection laws in same sex marriage legislation, with 36% opposed; 55% say the government has a responsibility for the safety of asylum seekers on Manus Island, with 36% for the contrary. The poll was conducted Thursday to Monday from a sample of 1034.
The full Essential Research report has the Coalition up a point on the primary vote, to 36%, Labor steady on 38%, the Greens steady on 9% and One Nation steady on 8%. Sixty-four per cent of respondents favoured a banking royal commission, with only 12% opposed. Questions on the economy produced a mixed bag: 33% rate its state as good with 24% for poor, but 39% think it headed on the wrong direction compared with 31% for right. A question about economic issues of concern finds the highest ratings for anything to do with prices, particularly energy prices, and lesser but still substantial concern about income tax and interest rates. Forty-nine per cent supported incentives and subsidies to speed the transition from fossil fuels to renewables, 16% leaving it to the market, and 12% who wanted intervention to slow the process.
shiftaling says:
Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 11:32 am
People need to realise that Labor need the very highest of ethical standards so they can go after the tories when they inevitably cross the line with their cronyism.
Where is the ethical breach by Dastyari? Since he had no security information he could not have passed any to Huang or anyone else.
The Liberals have alleged that D gave information to H. How do they know this? Can they prove it? Prima facie, they can only allege this if the security services were surveilling either D or H or both. If the security services are surveilling Senators, that would be extraordinary in itself and should be a matter of public record. If H was being surveilled, that would not be a surprise. However, to disclose that is an offence.
The Liberals appear to be using the security system for political purposes. That should be thoroughly investigated. Who is implicated in this? Was this authorised or not? If not, who stole this information? If it was authorised, the parties involved should be identified.
Maybe D is no more than bait in a trap. This is dynamite imo.
The Liberals, in their desperation to defend Bennelong, have set off a mine in their own trenches.
Cud Chewer: No, last night they finished by voting down the Brandis/Canavan amendments. Today they’ve voted down the PHON amendments, and are currently disposing of the LDP amendments.
Still have some Greens amendments to deal with.
https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Dynamic_Red
lyndalcurtis: “Bakers & florists” amendment voted down 5-37. On to Greens amendments then final votes.
Greens moving all their motions at once.
The statement by Shorten hits all the right buttons.
Shorten makes it clear how suss the allegations are ( without actually saying that ) and finishes off with his ” stern” rebuke of Daystari.
It will be interesting to see how far Brandis and Bishop take this and how labor responds.
Cheers.
“To those jumping at the opportunity to bag Daystari all I can suggest is play the story not the man and you will join the dots.”
Is that advice directed at Bill Shorten who has thrown Dasher under the bus?
briefly,
I agree completely.
The chief attack dogs this morning have been Brandis and Julie Bishop.
One has responsibility for national security and oversees the security agencies. The other is foreign minister. Neither has a good track record when it comes to political acumen.
Is this another AWU/ Cash moment ?
Cheers.
Diogenes,
I do not see how Shorten has thrown Daystari under any bus. But perhaps we are looking at the story from completely different angles.
Cheers.
doyley @ #756 Wednesday, November 29th, 2017 – 12:06 pm
That was my first thought too! This stinks of the J Edgar Hooverisation of Australian security intelligence.
Jenauthor there is no point complaining about the standards of other parties if you are not prepared to uphold your own.
My problem with Dastyari is not this latest crap, which is as many have pointed out just an attempt at distraction, but with his attitude revealed in the original disclosure. He enjoyed being feted by Huang because he though it proved he was a player and never worked out he was being played. He is a ticking time-bomb.
I think the Senate should investigate how it is that one of its members has evidently been surveilled by the Government and then secret information concerning that Senator has been the subject of a criminal disclosure to the media.
How is it that the A-G is attacking a Senator when his responsibility for the security services has been compromised. Brandis should be required to stand down pending an investigation.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2017/nov/29/sam-dastyari-under-the-spotlight-as-conservatives-push-back-on-marriage-politics-live?page=with:block-5a1e035557470105e9574b0f#block-5a1e035557470105e9574b0f
Yeah, I think it’s gonna stop pretty soon.
lanesainty: An interesting part of the Greens amendment – change the title of the bill from “Marriage Amendment (Definition and Religious Freedoms) Act 2017” to “Marriage Amendment Act 2017”.
Yikes, check out the lighting on Paterson.
It will be interesting to see how hard Brandis prosecutes the attack on Daystari in QT today.
It will also be interesting to see how hard labor questions Brandis re how the
Information had ended up in th hands of the MSM. It could only have come from the government and what then is also of interest is the indepth detail of the time and place of the meeting between Daystari and his mate. Assuming the information came from the government how would they know such detail ?
So many questions.
Cheers.
Rob_Stott: How great is it to watch conservatives abandon democracy at the first sign they can’t discriminate against gay people
Oh FFS. This is a desperate bootstrap. You can’t go knocking over your own players every time some slime gets thrown at them by the other side.
You lot of grumblebums might not like Dasher, but he goes real well on social media with younger people and immigrants.
It’s a pathetic smear and like all Trumble brilliant ideas he has over egged it from the get go. It won’t be long now until the whole thing blows up in that moron’s face. He’s probably taken dough from the gent involved for his own campaign knowing how stupid he is. And as others have noted if they want to go much further with this the question of ‘how do you know what he said?’ becomes germane.
And with the way the AFP and other arms of the state has been used as a political tool by this mob being widely acknowledged thanks to Cash’s idiocy that is not a question these dopes want to be answering.
BOATS must have tanked in Bennelong for them to reach for something as silly as this.
Thanks caf
workmanalice: Another Staffer Has Left Michaelia Cash’s Office In The Wake Of The AWU Raid Leak Scandal
buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/c…
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/cash-office?utm_term=.iaQ9vPm7g#.mtkZedxbm
Perhaps the government found out because Huangs phone really is bugged and he mentioned the conversation. 🙂
Abandon democracy? What planet is this guy from? These arseholes have never ever believed in democracy. They believe in power laundered by a veneer of democracy to keep the plebs from reaching for the pitchforks. If it can’t be subverted or bent to the interests of the powerful then it’s no use to them at all.
michaelkoziol: The Senate is about to vote on the bill to legalise same-sex marriage #auspol
workmanalice: I take that back, it won’t be in 10 mins. Abetz is now asking a series of questions. We’re not getting a vote anytime soon.
Brexit
OK, so the citizenship stuff can be fixed.
The money (between 45-55 billion) is on the table.
Now for the difficult bit.
Irony of ironies.
Ireland!
Senator Wong speaking to third reading now
Dio
It looks to me like one of those scenarios where they have some guff, accuse in generalities, in the hope that Shorten sets himself up for the sucker punch.
They have been trying this gambit for a while, so he did not swallow the bait.
Next steps will, presumably, be drip feeds of enough details to hang Dastyari once and for all.
But their main target will have eluded them.
I assume that this is the game plan and that this is the objective.
Diogenes,
Interesting proposition you put there.
The gentleman is warned by Daystari that his phone is bugged and then uses his phone to talk about being warned his phone is bugged !
A bit like Maxwell Smart !
Cheers.
lanesainty: Wong’s speech receives applause from Labor, crossbenchers & public gallery.
Diogenes @ #770 Wednesday, November 29th, 2017 – 12:24 pm
How the government ‘found out’ is far less relevant than how the journalists who wrote the story ‘found out’. There is a stench of abuse of national security powers by this government and/or intelligence agencies that strikes at the very heart of government integrity and our national security.
Against that, the poor judgement of Dastyari in consorting openly with powerful Chinese pales into insignificance. And is certainly no worse than the appearance of a sell-out by Bishop jr and Barnaby Joyce of Australia’s environment to Adani (and Gina Rinehart).
This disclosure of information that must surely have been captured by clandestine means (if true) even makes the AWU raid circus insignificant.
Of course, none of our journalist class will ever investigate how a colleague got a drop – even if the public interest is massively served by doing so.
SpaceKidette: A great day in the history of Australian politics. A day where bi-partisanship should reign, but no. Brandis can’t help but trash it with the political ugliness that surrounded this debate. #marriageequality
Now Brandis shines again
joshgnosis: Brandis: I am so proud of Australian democracy today, more now than I have ever been.
Nobody owns this result but the Australian people themselves.
lanesainty: Brandis: “I am so glad we involved every man and woman in Australia in this historic decision. I am so delighted the result was an overwhelming ‘yes’.”
Boerwar,
You are spot on re the statement by Shorten.
Instead of being a direct slap down of Daystari Shorten has included it as a genetic disclaimer in the event of further bullshit dripping out.
Covering all bases.
Cheers.
workmanalice: @RichardDiNatale “I am so proud of my country,” @RichardDiNatale tells the Senate
Not sure im keen to suddenly think Brandis is not a pompous git.
workmanalice: The senate has FIVE minutes to vote on same-sex marriage (senators statements is at 12:45pm)… if not won’t be til after QT around 4/4:30pm
Not going to happen now. Senator Canavan speaking. I am sure that Senator McDonald will speak too if Canavan doesn’t run the clock out
joshgnosis: Brandis is moving a procedural motion to keep the Senate going now and to get it done now.
Meanwhile, Madame Cash is refusing to cooperate with an order about the AWU raid.
Canavan trashes the whole process. What is it with this guy?
Never forget the ‘quality’ of Liberals.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/cash-office?utm_term=.stdzkgbpX#.orVP79p0e
Did Berger really want to put Cash into a chaff bag and chuck her into the ocean?
That’s a bit rough!
TPOF @ #779 Wednesday, November 29th, 2017 – 12:35 pm
This is the point.
Amazing how easily some people get distracted in just the way intended, and once again the CPG is revealed for the hollow charade that it is.
SenatorSurfer: The second biggest event of today. First time in his 15yr political career @NickMcKim is in parliament wearing a tie! pic.twitter.com/YhmPHcZGNy
From Joe Kelly in The Oz
‘Greens Senator Peter Whish-Wilson has flagged a deal with the Nationals is nearly finalised, saying discussions are progressing on changes to the terms of reference for a commission of inquiry into the banks proposed by renegade LNP Senator Barry O’Sullivan.
Senator Whish-Wilson confirmed the Greens were not backing away from an inquiry, saying Senator O’Sullivan was open to expanding the terms of reference to accommodate the Greens.
“We’ve been very clear that if we support a bill by the National Party it has to have a good terms of reference. If this is going to be our one chance to take this shot, so to speak, then we want to get it right,” he told Sky News.
“And we’ve been working very constructively with the National Party over recent days to try and get the terms of reference right … We’re still working on a couple more, but we’re getting very close.”
…
Classic Greens Party political trash talk.
Most of the votes getting the inquiry up will come from Labor.
Just one will come from the Greens Party in the lower house.
Anyone would think that Wish-Wilson was the prime minister!
So, after years of stopping Liberal Ministers and Backbenchers being given a free vote. After months of unnecessary plebiscite. After days of arguing over amendments that were never going to pass, the conservatives are down to filibustering to delay for a few more hours.
My bet for what happens at 4 when it comes to a vote, Macdonald will fall over and break a hip, to delay equality by a few more minutes as they stretcher him out.
Patterson voting Yes despite his odius amendments failing
doyley: In fact they are both responsible for security agencies. ASIS is under the Foreign Minister.
I must write than down, it’s a good one.
If Brandis attacks hard on Daystari during QT (as I am sure he will )it will be interesting to see the response from labor.
Will they push back hard demanding to know how the information was obtained by the Fairfax ” journos” and push for a investigation into the leaking of such sensitive information ? How will Brandis respond to such a demand ?
The strength of and points of attack by both sides will be very enlightening.
From how strong a position is each side prosecuting its case ?
Without knowing the internals on this issue I would suggest labor may have a strong attack position re the leaking especially on top of the AWU raid.
We shall see.