Essential Research was the only new poll this week, and it has no bearing whatsoever on the voting intention numbers in BludgerTrack. However, there is a fair bit going on in the state breakdowns, with the Coalition losing a seat in New South Wales, but gaining one apiece in Queensland, Western Australia and South Australia. No new numbers this week on leadership ratings. Full results on the sidebar.
BludgerTrack: 53.9-46.1 to Labor
One new poll and no change at all on the latest poll aggregate update.
Gulp. It wasn’t my fault, miss.
Bushfire Bill @ #27 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 6:43 am
It’s relayed into Qld
Googling “presidents day” turns up all three variations in equal measure (singular, plural and missing apostrophes)
Speculation growing that Flyn is about to flip on Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/us/politics/flynn-mueller-russia-trump.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share
lizzie says:
Friday, November 24, 2017 at 8:23 am
don
If I have only heard/read something in my ‘mature years’, I naturally regard it as a latecomer.
I am almost certainly older than you, and read a lot of old books!
I love how the CPG and Fairfax columnists (Hewson, Waleed Aly) are tieing themselves in ever-tightening knots trying to argue that Turnbull’s and the government’s problems are all fixable, given some simple measures and co-operation in implementing them from Labor.
The Coalition is in government, after all, and we don’t need any more leadership merry-go-rounds, now do we? That didn’t work with Gillard or Abbott, did it? And the voters don’t want another election, do they?
So there you have it. Bill Shorten caused all this mess by cynically taking the free kicks the government offered him on a plate, standing by while ministers leaked against each other, and generally benefiting from the unearned good luck of having Malcolm Turnbull stuff up everything he touches.
The least Bill could do is pay back Malcolm in kind by looking the other way when the next train wreck occurs.
After all, Labor caused this mess. You’d think they’d accept at least partial responsibility for fixing it.
Greensborough Growler @ #41 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 7:15 am
Definitely “Hear, Hear” – means “Listen to this!!”
Morning
Thanks BK for today’s reports.
Meanwhile here in Melbourne, we have had another very warm night. Currently 21 degrees in my neck of woods. Not even summer and I am over this hot spell!!
don
[I am almost certainly older than you, and read a lot of old books!]
No comment. 🙂
don @ #42 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 7:16 am
Grates to my ear, but I think you have to admit it is valid in a “meaning” sense.
c@
The Foreign Policy White Paper did ChiCom Reds Under the Beds rather than terrorism. A bit of variety or a win by Foreign Affairs/Defence over DIBP/AFP/ASIO.
Maybe Cabinet decided Dutton’s had enough publicity.
So ABC giving Julie star billing on the news plus a softer than soft 6 minute interview with Sabra Lane on AM.
As is normal doing their utmost to spruik for the magnificent one.
Listeners could be excused for thinking that Lane has a split personality when she later went into attack mode with the Queensland Premier.
GG
Thanksgiving today in US and tomorrow is their Black Friday. Biggest retail day of the year. I am thinking the Trump saga will ramp up after this.
IT will be interesting to see if Flynn or Kushner is next cab off rank.
Ajm, precisely my point, but why Sydney listeners, forced to put up with half an hour of PHON-spruiking, could give two hoots about the fate of a local member from a fringe party in Queensland is anybody’s guess.
“thanks for the pedantry about ‘careening’. I’m about to investigate its etymology. I imagine it’s originally nautical.”
Yep; from Thesaurus.com:
Word Origin & History
careen 1591, “to turn a ship on its side” (with the keel exposed), from M.Fr. carene “keel,” from It. (Genoese dialect) carena, from L. carina “keel of a ship,” originally “nutshell.” Generalized sense of “to lean, to tilt” is 1883; confused with career (v.) since at least 1923. To career is to move rapidly; to careen is to lurch from side to side (often while moving rapidly).
“Pedants’ Friday” because Friday (or a particular Friday) is owned by a gaggle of pedants, so it’s possessive case.
lizzie @ #20 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 3:15 am
My Oxford dictionary lists both as OK but notes that “of” stems mainly from American usage.
I have a different objection, wouldn’t there only be one “Sunshine Hospital” and as such it should be preceded by the definite article, “the”?
“careen” can also refer to tipping a boat on its side e.g. for repairs, caulking etc.
Probably the same origin as phrases like “to keel over”.
Based on the seat changes I predict the next PM (that is the one before Bill Shorten), will be Dutton.
On the hope that a Queensland PM will staunch the losses in that state.
He might be ‘popular’ in Queensland or at least in parts there.
I can see this as a compelling case for the federal Liberals.
“[…] a gaggle of pedants”
I think you mean “a quibble of pedants.”
Jaeger:
confused with career (v.) since at least 1923. To career is to move rapidly; to careen is to lurch from side to side (often while moving rapidly).
If that is the case, the battle can be considered lost. Career and Careen are used interchangeably, and modern usage rules apply.
I have given up the fight on ‘try to’ instead of ‘try and’. The latter has become ubiquitous.
The agreeable “Hear, hear” used to be “hear him, hear him”. Of course , in those days they thought that the only ones worth listening to were male! Just as the framers of the constitution thought there was no such thing as “Australian citizenship”, only “British citizenship’.
Hewson proving again that when the only tool you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
No John, tax reform isn’t going to save Trumble’s sorry arse any more than it did yours.
Adrian, Sabra needed the break so she could do her nails.
She only gets feisty on the very rare occasions she has a Labor Shadow on her program. Then it’s all interruptions, and Questions That Must Be Answered from Sabby. They don’t call it “The ‘Ask A Liberal’ Show” for nothing.
Completely unlistenable of course. Has been for years.
Good Morning
I use the maximum ad blocking and script blocks. That is because of this.
https://www.pcauthority.com.au/news/more-than-400-of-the-most-popular-sites-are-logging-everything-you-type-478141
I have no guilt about it as I am donating regularty.
Can we get back to discussing the looming implosion of the federal government?
Maeve O’Meara said flavourful last night
the horror
Almost as bad as those who say math
Jaeger @ #69 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 4:39 am
How could a number of pedants possibly form a group?
Surely their constant nitpicking would cause major disharmony leading to a very short lifespan! 🙂
This is an interesting read – Sydney & the Gold Coast would not survive this melt:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2017/11/scientists-are-desperately-trying-to-figure-out-how-long-we-have-until-doomsday-glaciers-melt/
sarahelks: Major slip of the tongue for @TimNichollsMP on @sunriseon7: “The best thing to do is to support your local LNP, One N- ahh LNP candidate” #qldvotes pic.twitter.com/Qzw9jGHO3q
https://twitter.com/sarahelks/status/933813226541785088
So it’s “The driver careered through a red light, careened around a bend, and then careamed himself on a light pole”?
BK
This should ring a few bells for you…
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/23/from-inboxing-to-thought-showers-how-business-bullshit-took-over;
The Beeb has a tv program taking the mickey out of such bulldust .
“The BBC or W1A – can you tell the difference? Quiz
BBC2’s meta-satire W1A has been lauded as art imitating life –
https://www.theguardian.com/media/shortcuts/2015/jul/05/wimbledon2day-bbc-w1a-difference-quiz
C@tmomma @ #38 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 4:07 am
One pedant’s view may be this, while other pedants’ views may vary widely! 🙂
Well well. How long before the right starts whining about defamation laws restricting free speech?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/nov/24/spectator-australia-takes-a-hit-with-big-grantham-floods-payout?CMP=share_btn_tw
Bushfire Bill @ #80 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 4:51 am
You had to bring in sex! 🙂
Bushfire Bill @ #47 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 8:51 am
Jeez mate. Has anything been done to stop this bastard ❓
simonahac: with the @australian reporting “nation’s peak energy regulators have crushed talk of new coal-fired power” the energy debate may have turned a corner. pic.twitter.com/1UjUvQbELN
“Black Friday” sales seem to be happening in Australia now. I had assumed the phenomenon was related to Friday the 13th but then the US connection became apparent. Luckily I don’t seem to need anything that might be on sale today.
GG
Adding to my earlier post. It does appear that Flynn may indeed be flipping. He has been concerned about Flynn Jnr,for quite some time. So no doubt would be looking for a favourable deal for both of them
Citizen
Australian businesses know it would be a bridge to far to have thanksgiving. Lol! But having a Black Friday sale day. No worries mate!
I find it absolutely incomprehensible that the so called “journalist” didn’t ask “What did you say? Did you mean to say ‘One Nation’ candidate? What did you mean by that? Is a vote for LNP a vote for One Nation? How can voters trust you….” etc etc. What a waste of space. I’m beyond angry at our media.
A final whinge. Why is everything a “space” now?
Bushfire Bill @ #73 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 8:42 am
Yes indeed. I loved her question to Julie on Manus: ‘Can you give us an update on the situation on Manus?’
Followed up with: ‘Do you think it’s harming our international reputation?’
That was about as hard hitting as it got.
Barney in Go Dau @ #77 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 8:44 am
So it’s a squabble of pedants?
lizzie @ #91 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 8:00 am
Space being (don’t forget to remember) Curved
(and that reminds me who said o yes Frost
Something there is which isn’t fond of walls)
lizzie
Let me “unpack” that for you 🙂
ItzaDream @ #93 Friday, November 24th, 2017 – 5:03 am
Maybe a fleeting of pedants? 🙂
ItzaDream
A split infinitive of pedants ?
Believe me, the people that I have heard use the word “agreeance” are not your “16th century literary scholarship” types. Poring over etymological text books is not their thing. They can hardly make it through Who Weekly (although, come to think of it, neither can I).
Shift
It was Sunrise. The show that gave Hanson a regular platform but has done no such thing for Di Natalee or Xenophon or even a ratings winner like Jacqui Lambie