Yet another 53-47 result from Newspoll, from primary votes of Coalition 36% (unchanged), Labor 36% (down one), Greens 11% (up two) and One Nation 8% (down one). Both leaders recorded better personal ratings, with Malcolm Turnbull up four on approval to 38% and down four on disapproval to 50%, and Bill Shorten up three on approval to 36% and down two on disapproval to 51%. Turnbull’s lead on preferred prime minister has widened from 43-32 to 46-31. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1639.
Stay tuned for federal voting intention results from the Queensland-only poll conducted for the Courier-Mail, from which state results were published yesterday.
UPDATE: The numbers from the Courier-Mail’s Galaxy poll from Queensland, conducted Wednesday and Thursday from a sample of 902, are Coalition 37% (up two since April), Labor 32% (down one), One Nation 12% (down three) and Greens 7%, with Australian Conservatives recording a fairly impressive 6%. On two-party preferred, the Coalition records a lead of 51-49, which compares with 50-50 in April and 54.1-45.9 at last year’s election.
dtt
Here’s the relevant electoral law —
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
A big week coming up for the Lying Waffle, will he show some leadrship? Or will the. monkeyPod keep him subservient?
Phew!
(>‿◠)✌
My ‘brave’ prediction 🙂
zoomster
dtt
Here’s the relevant electoral law
You are an eternal optimist, zoom. dtt is immune to reality.
zoomster,
Good on you for trying to reason with dtt. I gave it up as a thankless task ages ago.
Question:
Well done.
Yep DTT is the Malcolm Roberts of PB; totally immune to reality.
Best ignored in my view.
briefly @ #5 Sunday, August 6th, 2017 – 9:53 pm
She is immune to facts.
Fess, no idea what’s behind the personal ratings. Voter’s must like that Turnbull fought Trump to pull the wool over their eyes.
As I say Zoomster
Any donations will be via intermediaries.
Once again the whole point of waht i was saying is that politicians have discussions all the time with lobbyists of one kind or another. some will be on behalf on nations others for specific industries and yet others both.
Whatever contacts Trump and cronies had, you can be certain that there were plenty of others with other nations – indeed I am sure that Clinton and Bushes had lots of negotiations with Saudi Arabia. Ever heard of Bandar Bush – the Saudi Ambassador who was so close to GH Bush that he was regarded as a son.
There actually is a REASON nations are supposed to declare war from time to time. The and only then can unauthorized discussions be deemed treason. it is the reason why most of those held at Guantanamo including Hicks were held illegally
daretotread @ #521 Sunday, August 6th, 2017 – 9:38 pm
Your logic is obscure, obsequious and obscene.
confessions
Yep DTT is the Malcolm Roberts of PB…..
Oh, best rebuke of the night, fess.
confessions @ #8 Sunday, August 6th, 2017 – 9:55 pm
I have tried to ignore her blather but it keeps intruding into the conversation even after I have blocked her posts because there are still hardy souls willing to take her contributions seriously enough to reply to them.
Then she insults them.
I don’t for the life of me understand why they still bother.
dtt
It doesn’t matter if the donations were through intermediaries, and your original comment said they didn’t.
There is a huge difference between your original contention – that 99% of Congress were receiving donations from Israel – and lobbying or discussions.
If you can’t maintain an argument without shifting the goalposts, it means your argument was without substance to begin with. Better to admit that, learn, and move on, than dig yourself a deeper hole and lose credibility.*
*I realise many here will contend you don’t have any to lose. Perhaps you should consider why they say that.
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I get educated researching why dtt is wrong. The fact that I know dtt is wrong before I begin the research says a lot, but learning is always useful.
I think it’s pleasing to note that Bill Shorten’s approval ratings are going up as well, even if he isn’t winning on the Preferred Prime Minister rubric.
So that is #17 Newspolls, is that right?
(Not that I am counting).
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dtt is a sham. Their purpose in coming here is to sow mischief. The more noise the better. dtt is disinformation posing as indignation.
C@t:
Everything she says is ridiculously laughable and so over-inflated that you just know it’s wrong.
JR
16?
zoomster @ #16 Sunday, August 6th, 2017 – 10:06 pm
I learn things by not engaging with dtt. Other things. Things I want to know about, not the ridiculous garden paths she wants to lead us down.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/turnbull-government-pushes-back-from-electoral-abyss-in-new-galaxy-poll/news-story/b07e778c53cd30ebcc2b7b65b1c3b16c
Turnbull Government pushes back from electoral abyss in new Galaxy poll
Renee Viellaris, Federal Political Editor, The Courier-Mail
in 2 hours
THE Turnbull Government is clawing its way out of electoral oblivion, clocking its best poll result in Queensland since freefalling after the 2016 election.
It is also inching ahead of Labor in two-party preferred terms, a new bittersweet snapshot reveals.
Taken exclusively for The Courier-Mail when the Liberal Party was consumed by same-sex marriage, the Galaxy poll signals the Government’s nosedive has ended. However, it would still lose five Queensland seats if an election were held today.
While One Nation’s support continues to fall, the Government is facing another threat.
Cory Bernardi’s Australian Conservatives has secured 6 per cent of the primary support – higher than One Nation’s 5.5 per cent at the 2016 federal election.
One Nation reached highs of 18 per cent in February but lost three points in April and another three points this month.
At the July double-dissolution election, the LNP’s primary vote was 43 per cent. In February and April, it stooped to 35 per cent, before gaining a little traction to reach 37 per cent in the latest poll.
Labor’s primary numbers have continued to bounce up and down since the last election, but in the latest poll, the party was marked down slightly by voters.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/414e4ca974bcc82303b772bd6d257566
Primary trend
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e540c83bacdbd3bf434b1de216c52ce0
TPP chart
Thanks, Leroy!
So Mr Turnbull loses another Newspoll as Fairfax focus group “savages” him for lacking a spine.
Gonna be a good week for progressives.
confessions @ #20 Sunday, August 6th, 2017 – 10:08 pm
Hyperbowl.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/queens-still-tops-with-queenslanders/news-story/f3888a2b1d8052d127a60700d890d588
Queen’s still tops with Queenslanders
Renee Viellaris, Federal Political Editor, The Courier-Mail
QUEENSLANDERS want to stay loyal to the Queen and almost half are against becoming a republic, suggesting Bill Shorten has misjudged the will of voters.
Taken after the Opposition Leader announced he would hold a referendum on a republic in his first term, and exclusive Galaxy poll shows 48 per cent of Queenslanders, including more than one-third who vote Labor, would oppose the change.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/0335cdd3cbe77c3cff8c723f3541a992
53/47 for the sixth time straight. KB will have a few words to say about that, I expect (or, rather, hope). If it’s right, we have stasis. Or perhaps we just have resistance, in various forms. Is this the new mean in Australian politics?
Leroy Lynch
Taken after the Opposition Leader announced he would hold a referendum on a republic in his first term, and exclusive Galaxy poll shows 48 per cent of Queenslanders, including more than one-third who vote Labor, would oppose the change.
This is entirely consistent with my own (purely anecdotal) impressions in WA. The republicans among us have our work more than cut out if constitutional reform is to eventuate.
THE Turnbull Government is clawing its way out of electoral oblivion…
Taken exclusively for The Courier-Mail when the Liberal Party was consumed by same-sex marriage, the Galaxy poll signals the Government’s nosedive has ended. However, it would still lose five Queensland seats if an election were held today.
Well, that’s okay then.
I like Mike
Pense of course. Who couldn’t? Just want to pinch his chubby little cheeks. Better than that nasty bitch Hillary. Nothing worth pinching on that pantsuit wearing harpy.
She would have damned us all to nuclear holocaust. (granted it would have solved the Ebola crises, but surely that’s beside the point)
C@tmomma @ #30 Sunday, August 6th, 2017 – 10:22 pm
Can’t say I have a problem with it.
13, 14, 15, 16, 17,…
This article is from Ryan Lizza, the guy that “The Mooch” phoned and accidentally let rip whilst on the record:
“Grand juries don’t investigate hoaxes, and there are rules against using them for anything resembling a political witch hunt. As several former federal prosecutors told me, the grand jury is significant because it means that Mueller is in the midst of a “predicated” criminal investigation. That is, he has reached the point where he has evidence of criminal conduct. “It can’t be used for a fishing expedition,” Matt Olsen, a former federal prosecutor, said. “He’s got a very powerful tool to pursue specific federal crimes.”
http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/what-the-trump-russia-grand-jury-means/amp
https://patribotics.blog/2017/04/01/alfa-bank-trump-tower-and-a-social-media-impeachment/
ratsak:
“I like Mike”.
I think you might have hit on the Republican’s 2020 campaign slogan there.
Also from the CM article, it looks like Hanson is facing competition from Bernardi for voter support:
Re Galaxy in QLD. In the chart its masked under “Other” but in the article this is worth noting…
“Cory Bernardi’s Australian Conservatives has secured 6 per cent of the primary support – higher than One Nation’s 5.5 per cent at the 2016 federal election”
So he’s making a mark as Hanson is slipping and some hardcore Tories refuse to return to Turnbull’s Libs.
If Galaxy specifically mentioned Australian Conservatives in the questions this may skew the results. It will basically become go to option for people that like none of the other parties.
I highly doubt anyone but politically aware have heard of Aus. Conservatives. Cory Bernardi is not a known person in the community.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/06/new-zealand-thousands-of-bottles-of-allegedly-fraudulent-wine-exported
Provenance counts. This is about passing off…which is what Trump is about. He passes himself off as a President. In fact he’s a fraud too. Another sham. He’s bottled Putin.
ratsak @ #32 Sunday, August 6th, 2017 – 10:27 pm
The internet suffers from the lack of a satire emoji.
Greens up two with total chaos losing senators, Turnbull up four after the tapes leak. Beggars belief
Ides, yes it is certainly 16 or 17, I thought the last one was 16.
Reading the focus group article, in some ways, not being able to lead the Liberal party seems to buoy up Turnbull’s personal popularity. Bad things are blamed on the recalcitrant party and he gets the credit for anything positive, like the new HAM.
This may explain the 2PP figure and the PPM.
The Oz says it’s now 17 Newspolls and the RW are watching, watching…
https://patribotics.blog/2017/04/01/alfa-bank-trump-tower-and-a-social-media-impeachment/
Lastly, following our exclusive reporting that Wikileaks is a Russian front who, days before the DNC hack, not only bought Russian servers, but gave their SSL keys to a Russian hacker Peter Chayanov, meaning he could see – and the FSB could see – everything on the Wikileaks site, including the IP address of any foolish Americans “whistleblowing” to Wikileaks (like Chelsea Manning), meaning Putin could blackmail them, I will assume that Chayanov is Guccifer2; that he was collaborating with Stone and Manafort both directly and indirectly; and that he worked with Russian state hackers to attack US voter databases.
Democracy has been hacked.
shiftaling
Greens up two with total chaos losing senators, Turnbull up four after the tapes leak. Beggars belief
Voters are inured to this stuff.
@John
I agree. While Liberal brand is toxic, there doesn’t appear to be anti-Turnbull anger out there, possibly because he seems to be at odds with his party.
Yeah but I didn’t think they were total effing idiots
I think Bill Shorten is going well. His public speaking and body language indicates that whilst he is measuring himself, he is sharp and full of energy.
Some interesting insights from the focus groups. This one will cut Turnbull where it hurts:
Said one Melbourne man: “Abbott did what he said. Turnbull hasn’t. It’s the Julia Gillard disease.”
Ouch!
Bill Shorten has big perception problems.
A participant in the group aged over 40 said: “Trust, he’s a snake.”
In the western Sydney groups: “They agreed that Shorten is not an appealing alternative, even amongst 2016 Labor voters, who believed he could not be the leader they were looking for – but had no idea who could,” Ms Demasi observed.
The silver lining:
It was not much better among the Melbourne groups, although one voter said that Mr Shorten was “more in tune with me and my needs”.
I mean I’ve always been somewhat partial to the Greens but lately they have looked like nothing I would ever bring myself to vote for. As for Turnbull, my God, I was so angry when I read those transcripts. How could anyone support that obsequious loser after what he did in that phone call