Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor

Newspoll records the same two-party preferred result for the sixth poll in a row.

Yet another 53-47 result from Newspoll, from primary votes of Coalition 36% (unchanged), Labor 36% (down one), Greens 11% (up two) and One Nation 8% (down one). Both leaders recorded better personal ratings, with Malcolm Turnbull up four on approval to 38% and down four on disapproval to 50%, and Bill Shorten up three on approval to 36% and down two on disapproval to 51%. Turnbull’s lead on preferred prime minister has widened from 43-32 to 46-31. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1639.

Stay tuned for federal voting intention results from the Queensland-only poll conducted for the Courier-Mail, from which state results were published yesterday.

UPDATE: The numbers from the Courier-Mail’s Galaxy poll from Queensland, conducted Wednesday and Thursday from a sample of 902, are Coalition 37% (up two since April), Labor 32% (down one), One Nation 12% (down three) and Greens 7%, with Australian Conservatives recording a fairly impressive 6%. On two-party preferred, the Coalition records a lead of 51-49, which compares with 50-50 in April and 54.1-45.9 at last year’s election.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Focus groups are pseudoscience.

    Yes this is the sixth Newspoll with the same 2PP in a row, there have never been more than four the same in a row prior to now. Lately Essential is behaving more “organically” than Newspoll!

    I think the netsat rises for Turnbull and Shorten could just be terror bounces. The Trump call stuff shouldn’t move voter opinions all that much.

  3. Gorkay King
    @John

    I agree. While Liberal brand is toxic, there doesn’t appear to be anti-Turnbull anger out there, possibly because he seems to be at odds with his party.

    Turnbull doesn’t make voters feel sick in their stomachs, as did Abbott. But there’s no doubt he has not matched the projections of him they had built up. This is only partly Turnbull’s fault. Voters were willing to be duped…just as long as the Liberals got rid of Abbott. To that extent, voters were complicit in their own deception. They are, after all, well-used to suspending disbelief in order to get to a satisfactory development of plot. While it turns out that Turnbull has no leadership capacities, it’s also true the Liberals basically do not want to be led by either Turnbull or Abbott. One is vain, the other is crazy. But they’re all stuck with each other and deserve to be. Soon enough, the voters will turn them out and give them a chance to remodel.

  5. Kevin…is the statistical mean shifting? That is, do the polls suggest that a 2PP Labor majority has become the default setting? It certainly feels like it. Where is the mean?

  6. I have noticed the to and fro tonight about whether hoping for the removal of Trump as POTUS is a good or bad moral choice. It was also suggested that “goalposts were being shifted” in the arguments back and forth.

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    I use this poster quite a lot in various contexts. You can download it for free, but can make a small donation if you would like. The disclaimer at the bottom of the donation popup says “Your donation may also be used for beer, but this arguably gives me energy to do altruistic work.”

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  7. briefly @ #55 Sunday, August 6th, 2017 – 11:36 pm

    Kevin…is the statistical mean shifting? That is, do the polls suggest that a 2PP Labor majority has become the default setting? It certainly feels like it. Where is the mean?

    Over what time frame? These things are cyclical. Any argument that suggests one major party is building up some kind of automatic polling advantage over the other – such that you’d expect it to win polls much more often than not over, say, the next 10 years – is very likely to be false.

    In this particular term of government, Labor’s lead isn’t huge, but it is especially stable so far. This would be true even without the stuck-in-the-mud Newspoll 2PPs.

  8. I notice someone mentioned Izvestia, which I believe is Russian for “News”. The Erudite Budgertariat no doubt also remembers that Pravda is Russian for “Truth”.

    There is an old Russian joke that goes “There is no news in Izvestia, and no truth in Pravda.”

  10. Wow! Being born indigenous can be really bad for you health:

    This inequity is even worse for kidney transplants, Dr Lawton says.

    “Compared to a non-indigenous patient in Surry Hills in Sydney, an indigenous patient with the same age and illness in Redfern right next door has a third of the chance of a kidney transplant,” he said.

    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/death-of-indigenous-musician-dr-g-yunupingu-was-preventable-according-to-his-doctor-20170806-gxqbzz.html

  11. Kevin Bonham….

    I’m not really thinking too far into the future. Rather, I was thinking about the adage that “things tend to revert to the mean.” I don’t know if this saying reflects anything more than a statistical artefact. But it suggested to me that a 2PP split around, say 52.5/47.5 has been repeated often enough that, at least at present, it could be thought of as the current mean. In this case, should we expect deviations away from the mean to be followed by reversions back towards it? Stated another way, indications of a run-away Labor win or a narrow LNP win should be superseded by refreshed chances of a clear but still moderate Labor win.

    How does this relate to the kind of Bayesian probability used by the likes of Nate Silver? In this context, does the pronounced but unusual stability of Newspoll suggest it is becoming less reliable?

  12. Finally caught up, you guys have been having fun.

    My ribs are a bit sore.

    Thanks DTT, every time you mention word “logic”, pure comedy gold.

    You’ve missed your calling.

    Your advocacy of ignoring criminal transgressions, due your perceived greater good, is truly enlightening.

    🙂

  13. Douglas and Milko
    Wow! Being born indigenous can be really bad for you health:

    One of my grandfathers died of kidney failure at a relatively young age. He led an unblemished life, seldom ever drank, ate a wholesome diet and was a great athlete as a young man. He just suddenly got sick and died. This was in the 1960s. Doubtless, today he could be kept alive, but his death was by no means unusual at the time and his heritage must have had a part in it. Needless to say, I keep an eye on my own kidney functioning!

  14. Just finished doing a catch up read of todays blog and this newspoll blog. Great that it is all functional again.

  22. Adam Schiff Ruins Trump’s Vacation With More Bad Russia Scandal News For The White House

    House Intelligence Committee ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) said that Donald Trump Jr’s emails were just the beginning, and Special Counsel Robert Mueller impaneled the grand jury because the investigation is heating up, not winding down.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/06/adam-schiff-ruins-trumps-vacation-bad-russia-scandal-news-white-house.html

  24. Video and Picture Expose Trump’s “Working Vacation” To Be A Sad And Pathetic Lie

    Trump claimed that he is not on vacation, but is working at his New Jersey golf club, but a picture and video show a president who is hanging out, playing golf, and riding around in his golf cart.

    It is sad that this White House isn’t even competent enough to lie about Trump’s vacations. Trump obviously is not working. He is wasting more taxpayer money while the country lacks leadership.

    America doesn’t have a president. The man occupying the presidency is the world’s laziest retiree.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/06/video-picture-expose-trumps-working-vacation-sad-pathetic-lie.html

  25. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    This focus group’s got Turnbull worked out according to Peter Hartcher.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/if-he-just-had-guts-focus-groups-savage-malcolm-turnbull-as-a-donothing-pm-20170806-gxqcvo.html
    Mark Kenny tells us that the rebel MPs have the numbers behind them as they go into today’s “emergency meeting” on SSM. I’d love to be a fly on the wall! The religious protections in the bill say a lot about what our society has become.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rebel-liberal-mps-have-voters-on-their-side-as-coalition-party-room-meets-20170806-gxqcpw.html
    But Simon Besnson writes that a detailed proposal for a postal plebiscite on gay marriage is likely to be taken to federal cabinet following a Liberal partyroom meeting today where an overwhelming majority of MPs are expected to block moves by rebels to force a parliamentary vote on the issue. Google.
    /news/nation/libs-in-postal-vote-bid-to-block-samesex-rebels/news-story/587d2953f5dd9dbd6c1553baf505aad3
    The SMH editorial says either way same-sex marriage has emerged as the battlefield on which the Prime Minister’s leadership stands or falls. He can fight to the death now or call an uneasy truce to fight another day. Two things are certain: no one is about to leave the field, and we will have same-sex marriage, come what may.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/samesex-marriage-if-not-now-then-when-20170804-gxpxi0.html
    Abbott goes to the pages of The Australian to pour scorn over Shorten and those who are against his plebiscite. Google.
    /opinion/bill-shortens-samesex-marriage-stance-is-hypocrisy-writ-large/news-story/bfdb30511ef2974283b1b7519c3b97b3
    Meanwhile housing affordability is still front of mind for voters.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/fairfaxipsos-focus-groups-voters-most-angry-about-housing-affordability-20170806-gxqejz.html
    Tony Wright reckons both Turnbull and Shorten have things to fear from these focus group revelations.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/voters-express-discontent-at-both-major-parties-in-fairfax-focus-groups-20170806-gxq97d.html
    Hartcher thinks much the same.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/fairfaxipsos-focus-groups-major-parties-doing-nothing-to-prevent-populist-anger-infiltrating-australia-20170806-gxqea5.html

  26. The public isnt angry with Trumble, just disappointed.
    We all gave him the benefit of the doubt (me included), we just wanted him to do “stuff” (fix the NBN, same sex marriage, republic etc).
    He has shown himself to be just another useless bloody conservative, in love with power for powers sake.
    Shorten and labor will win the next election easily but they will be marked down just as savagely if they fuck it up.

  27. Section 2 . . .

    Urban Wronski says Turnbull’s terror bust raised big questions over his government and his leadership.
    https://urbanwronski.com/2017/08/06/turnbulls-terror-bust-raises-big-questions-over-his-government-and-his-leadership/
    Ross Gittins explains how our uninterrupted run of growth was no accident as he takes apart Boris Johnson’s mumblings.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/boris-johnson-was-wrong-to-link-australias-economic-growth-to-the-resources-boom-20170805-gxq32o.html
    Imre Salusinszky says it’s time to end “Punch and Judy politics”.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/sweet-honey-and-that-book-20170804-gxp8py.html
    Clancy Yeates writes that in the wake of the latest explosive money laundering allegations the calls for a banking and finance royal commission are getting louder and louder.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/pressure-for-royal-commission-rises-on-cba-laundering-scandal-20170804-gxptfo.html
    Jackson Styles says this latest effort from CBA renders a royal commission inevitable.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/finance-news/2017/08/06/cba-laundering-royal-commission/
    Meanwhile the CBA blames a “software error” for the laundering scandal. Yeates is unimpressed.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/mistakes-can-be-made–cba-blames-software-for-scandal-20170806-gxqiao.html
    The ATO, under more pressure over its IT failure, is getting a little precious.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/our-it-systems-arent-bound-by-commercial-service-standards-says-ato-20170803-gxorv1.html
    National Broadband Network speed woes could be eradicated by telcos paying just $9.75 extra a month per connection. But instead they are running an aggressive public campaign to pressure the network to drop charges to increase profits at taxpayers’ expense. Analysis of NBN pricing by The Australian shows speeds would be doubled nationally if telcos paid an extra $6.25 a month per home, and tripled if they forked out just $9.75 more. Google.
    /national-affairs/telcos-baulk-at-cheap-fix-for-slow-nbn-speeds/news-story/cee1d0d2a8afdde2f7cccb4cc62e9316
    Whoever is in office three years from now will have the biggest ever infrastructure debacle on their hands if we don’t do something soon, writes Internet Australia’s Laurie Patton.
    https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/nbn-co-needs-to-eat-its-own-dog-food-,10580

  28. Section 3 . . .

    The PaTH scheme makes as much sense as the marriage equality policy: none. But ministers could at least consider data showing its policies are among the stupidest ever seen in Australian politics says Greg Jericho. This is one of his best efforts!
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/aug/06/path-internships-show-government-is-on-the-wrong-track
    The expanded investigation into Trump’s Russian links is not a fishing expedition.
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/trump-campaign-russia-probe-not-a-fishing-expedition-rod-rosenstein-20170806-gxqjes.html
    Tom Switzer says that Trump can wave goodbye to American exceptionalism.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/donald-trump-can-say-goodbye-to-american-exceptionalism-20170804-gxpe8q.html
    Jessica Valenti wonders if anyone in the White House is using their brains.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/04/the-week-in-patriarchy-trump-white-house-spicer-scaramucci
    Republicans are lining up to succeed Trump in 2020.
    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/world/republicans-begin-campaign-for-2020-as-trump-doubts-grow-20170806-gxq7af.html
    Is this round of protests on Manus Island heading for a tragic outcome?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/06/therell-be-a-big-tragedy-manus-deadlock-could-reach-breaking-point
    Trump-Turnbull call: trading people like pawns undermines the goals of international co-operation
    https://theconversation.com/trump-turnbull-call-trading-people-like-pawns-undermines-the-goals-of-international-co-operation-82082
    Yet more evidence of the NSW water theft. And the government in in it up to its neck.
    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/more-claims-of-excess-water-extraction-by-nsw-irrigators-surface-20170805-gxq2jh.html
    Water regulations due to be reviewed and updated on 1 September have been postponed for another year by the New South Wales government following the controversy over allegations of water theft in the Barwon-Darling region of the Murray-Darling basin. Is the NSW government running scared?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/07/nsw-accused-of-running-scared-after-postponing-review-of-water-regulations

  29. Section 4 . . . with Cartoon Corner
    Peter Wicks details his experience being educated at a school run by a religious group he regards as more of a cult.
    https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/the-irredeemable-baptist-school-cult,10581
    Adam Gartrell writes that Australia could become the first nation in the world to effectively end HIV transmission with extra government funding of just $32.5 million a year.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-could-end-hiv-transmission-in-australia-with-just-32m-a-year-20170805-gxq6or.html

    A day in the life of Donald Trump.

    Matt Golding and the encroachment of rubbish tips in Melbourne.

    David Rowe on the values of our leaders.

    Jon Kudelka explains the proposed SSM bill.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/c47968650ea11cc694132c90db62b2a1

  30. I will just try to post the whole Dawn Patrol in one big lump.

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    This focus group’s got Turnbull worked out according to Peter Hartcher.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/if-he-just-had-guts-focus-groups-savage-malcolm-turnbull-as-a-donothing-pm-20170806-gxqcvo.html
    Mark Kenny tells us that the rebel MPs have the numbers behind them as they go into today’s “emergency meeting” on SSM. I’d love to be a fly on the wall! The religious protections in the bill say a lot about what our society has become.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rebel-liberal-mps-have-voters-on-their-side-as-coalition-party-room-meets-20170806-gxqcpw.html
    But Simon Besnson writes that a detailed proposal for a postal plebiscite on gay marriage is likely to be taken to federal cabinet following a Liberal partyroom meeting today where an overwhelming majority of MPs are expected to block moves by rebels to force a parliamentary vote on the issue. Google.
    /news/nation/libs-in-postal-vote-bid-to-block-samesex-rebels/news-story/587d2953f5dd9dbd6c1553baf505aad3
    The SMH editorial says either way same-sex marriage has emerged as the battlefield on which the Prime Minister’s leadership stands or falls. He can fight to the death now or call an uneasy truce to fight another day. Two things are certain: no one is about to leave the field, and we will have same-sex marriage, come what may.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/samesex-marriage-if-not-now-then-when-20170804-gxpxi0.html
    Abbott goes to the pages of The Australian to pour scorn over Shorten and those who are against his plebiscite. Google.
    /opinion/bill-shortens-samesex-marriage-stance-is-hypocrisy-writ-large/news-story/bfdb30511ef2974283b1b7519c3b97b3
    Meanwhile housing affordability is still front of mind for voters.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/fairfaxipsos-focus-groups-voters-most-angry-about-housing-affordability-20170806-gxqejz.html
    Tony Wright reckons both Turnbull and Shorten have things to fear from these focus group revelations.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/voters-express-discontent-at-both-major-parties-in-fairfax-focus-groups-20170806-gxq97d.html
    Hartcher thinks much the same.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/fairfaxipsos-focus-groups-major-parties-doing-nothing-to-prevent-populist-anger-infiltrating-australia-20170806-gxqea5.html
    Section 2 . . .

    Urban Wronski says Turnbull’s terror bust raised big questions over his government and his leadership.
    https://urbanwronski.com/2017/08/06/turnbulls-terror-bust-raises-big-questions-over-his-government-and-his-leadership/
    Ross Gittins explains how our uninterrupted run of growth was no accident as he takes apart Boris Johnson’s mumblings.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/boris-johnson-was-wrong-to-link-australias-economic-growth-to-the-resources-boom-20170805-gxq32o.html
    Imre Salusinszky says it’s time to end “Punch and Judy politics”.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/sweet-honey-and-that-book-20170804-gxp8py.html
    Clancy Yeates writes that in the wake of the latest explosive money laundering allegations the calls for a banking and finance royal commission are getting louder and louder.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/pressure-for-royal-commission-rises-on-cba-laundering-scandal-20170804-gxptfo.html
    Jackson Styles says this latest effort from CBA renders a royal commission inevitable.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/finance-news/2017/08/06/cba-laundering-royal-commission/
    Meanwhile the CBA blames a “software error” for the laundering scandal. Yeates is unimpressed.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/mistakes-can-be-made–cba-blames-software-for-scandal-20170806-gxqiao.html
    The ATO, under more pressure over its IT failure, is getting a little precious.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/our-it-systems-arent-bound-by-commercial-service-standards-says-ato-20170803-gxorv1.html
    National Broadband Network speed woes could be eradicated by telcos paying just $9.75 extra a month per connection. But instead they are running an aggressive public campaign to pressure the network to drop charges to increase profits at taxpayers’ expense. Analysis of NBN pricing by The Australian shows speeds would be doubled nationally if telcos paid an extra $6.25 a month per home, and tripled if they forked out just $9.75 more. Google.
    /national-affairs/telcos-baulk-at-cheap-fix-for-slow-nbn-speeds/news-story/cee1d0d2a8afdde2f7cccb4cc62e9316
    Whoever is in office three years from now will have the biggest ever infrastructure debacle on their hands if we don’t do something soon, writes Internet Australia’s Laurie Patton.
    https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/nbn-co-needs-to-eat-its-own-dog-food-,10580
    Section 3 . . .

    The PaTH scheme makes as much sense as the marriage equality policy: none. But ministers could at least consider data showing its policies are among the stupidest ever seen in Australian politics says Greg Jericho. This is one of his best efforts!
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/aug/06/path-internships-show-government-is-on-the-wrong-track
    The expanded investigation into Trump’s Russian links is not a fishing expedition.
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/trump-campaign-russia-probe-not-a-fishing-expedition-rod-rosenstein-20170806-gxqjes.html
    Tom Switzer says that Trump can wave goodbye to American exceptionalism.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/donald-trump-can-say-goodbye-to-american-exceptionalism-20170804-gxpe8q.html
    Jessica Valenti wonders if anyone in the White House is using their brains.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/04/the-week-in-patriarchy-trump-white-house-spicer-scaramucci
    Republicans are lining up to succeed Trump in 2020.
    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/world/republicans-begin-campaign-for-2020-as-trump-doubts-grow-20170806-gxq7af.html
    Is this round of protests on Manus Island heading for a tragic outcome?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/06/therell-be-a-big-tragedy-manus-deadlock-could-reach-breaking-point
    Trump-Turnbull call: trading people like pawns undermines the goals of international co-operation
    https://theconversation.com/trump-turnbull-call-trading-people-like-pawns-undermines-the-goals-of-international-co-operation-82082
    Yet more evidence of the NSW water theft. And the government in in it up to its neck.
    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/more-claims-of-excess-water-extraction-by-nsw-irrigators-surface-20170805-gxq2jh.html
    Water regulations due to be reviewed and updated on 1 September have been postponed for another year by the New South Wales government following the controversy over allegations of water theft in the Barwon-Darling region of the Murray-Darling basin. Is the NSW government running scared?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/07/nsw-accused-of-running-scared-after-postponing-review-of-water-regulations
    Section 4 . . . with Cartoon Corner
    Peter Wicks details his experience being educated at a school run by a religious group he regards as more of a cult.
    https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/the-irredeemable-baptist-school-cult,10581
    Adam Gartrell writes that Australia could become the first nation in the world to effectively end HIV transmission with extra government funding of just $32.5 million a year.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-could-end-hiv-transmission-in-australia-with-just-32m-a-year-20170805-gxq6or.html

    A day in the life of Donald Trump.

    Matt Golding and the encroachment of rubbish tips in Melbourne.

    David Rowe on the values of our leaders.

    Jon Kudelka explains the proposed SSM bill.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/c47968650ea11cc694132c90db62b2a1

  34. Hmmmm. Based off the last Federal election that Queensland a little bit more conservative (the Labor / Green vote share is down about a 1% and the Green vote is down around 2%) while the conservative vote share over all seems up a bit.

    The rise of the Australian Conservatives makes sense in light of the unexpectedly weak PHON showing for Queensland and having consumed 2 of three Christian micro parties.

    The PHON vote must be really leaky for a 55%+ conservative vote to end up at 51% 2PP especially Coalition votes in Queensland can’t leak. That’s something like 1 in 3 PHON votes preferencing Labor ahead of the Coalition (I’m assuming the Australian Conservatives and Greens each have a ~15% “defection rate” which should roughly cancel on those number)

  36. When Switzer starts including quotes like this you know he is in despair!

    “We are witnessing an historic eclipse of US power … This is a strange new world the Americans find themselves in, and one where they are finding it harder than ever to impose their will on anyone anywhere.”

    if America’s leaders don’t use its vast power with restraint, discrimination and prudence – and if the US President keeps acting as if he’s still a reality television star – then America’s prestige, credibility, influence and power are likely to further wane in what CNN host Fareed Zakaria calls “the post-American world”.

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/donald-trump-can-say-goodbye-to-american-exceptionalism-20170804-gxpe8q.html

  37. The SMH stinks of Hartcher’s relevance deprivation syndrome. Three articles, including the front page, all rotating furiously around Hartcher’s desperation at Trumble’s leaden feet. This probably means that the “SMH Real Estate Bidniz model” is going the way of it’s most notorious orange golf-playing-not-holidaying avatar.

  38. The week of SSM Liberal Party debate starts.

    What part will the Nationals play in this? They have been very quite over the last few days.

  42. EVACUATE MANUS NOW‏ @SarahRubyWrites · 18h18 hours ago

    A reliable diplomatic source told me prior to water being withdrawn that @PeterDutton_MP ordered NO MEDIA COVERAGE for Manus.

  44. Maxine Waters: “When we finish with Trump, we have to go and get Pence”

    Rep. Maxine Waters has been pushing for Donald Trump’s impeachment from the very beginning. But she also knows Mike Pence would be just as dangerous and compromised as his boss.

    Considering the American people like Pence even less than they like Trump, it’s safe to say the voters would agree with Waters.

    http://shareblue.com/maxine-waters-when-we-finish-with-trump-we-have-to-go-and-get-pence/

  45. Do the Coalition members really believe that they have never, never broken an election commitment? Tony Abbott taking a “high moral stance” on this is laughable.

  46. BK

    ‘The religious protections in the bill say a lot about what our society has become.’

    With great respect, no, they don’t. They are the same religious protections which exist at present – for example, members of certain religions can refuse jobs under Centrelink if these jobs involve practices against their religions beliefs (such as selling tobacco) and churches can refuse to perform ceremonies for or recognise marriages they don’t approve of.

  49. Elaugaufein @ #84 Monday, August 7th, 2017 – 5:11 am

    Hmmmm. Based off the last Federal election that Queensland a little bit more conservative (the Labor / Green vote share is down about a 1% and the Green vote is down around 2%) while the conservative vote share over all seems up a bit.

    The rise of the Australian Conservatives makes sense in light of the unexpectedly weak PHON showing for Queensland and having consumed 2 of three Christian micro parties.

    The PHON vote must be really leaky for a 55%+ conservative vote to end up at 51% 2PP especially Coalition votes in Queensland can’t leak. That’s something like 1 in 3 PHON votes preferencing Labor ahead of the Coalition (I’m assuming the Australian Conservatives and Greens each have a ~15% “defection rate” which should roughly cancel on those number)

    58% of PHON preferences went to the Liberals at the WA election, so the one in three PHON votes preferencing Labor is not far off the mark based on the most recent election we’ve had.

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