Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor

Another stable Newspoll, as both major parties gain a point on the primary vote at the expense of the various “others”.

Another fortnight (or so), another 53-47 to Labor result from Newspoll. This time out the primary votes are Coalition 36% (up one), Labor 37% (up one), Greens 9% (down one) and One Nation 9% (down two). Malcolm Turnbull’s personal ratings are slightly improved, with approval up two to 34% and disapproval down two to 54%, and his lead as preferred prime minister out from 41-33 to 43-32, while Bill Shorten is unchanged at 33% approval and 53% disapproval.

UPDATE: Paywalled Australian report here. Kevin Bonham: “Same 2PP five #Newspolls in a row, a new all-time record. #auspol”.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. ctar1 @ #496 Monday, July 24, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    “Maybe from my years in the ALP I am used to more robust …”
    I knew we’d get there -“It’s all Labor’s fault”.

    Appreciate your sense of humour.
    There was some pretty firey debate around the time of Federal Intervention and for some time after. Things are a lot quieter these days, at least out my way.

  3. phoenixred @ #499 Monday, July 24, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    bemused Monday, July 24, 2017 at 4:18 pm
    phoenixred @ #472 Monday, July 24, 2017 at 4:03 pm
    What is FIA? Did you mean FIL as I assumed until you used it a second time.
    ********************************************
    OOPS – Sorry and THANK YOU, Bemused – been a loooooong weekend – I did not even pick it up on either time – I did mean my LATE Father In Law ( FIL ) – who served in Tobruk and New Guinea …… and we have passed it all onto his great, great grandkids , who take it in turns on Anzac Day etc – to excitedly and proudly wearing his medals …… along with my LATE fathers WW2 medals for serving in UK Fighter/Bomber Command …..

    They would both have had a tough time.
    I think my late father was relatively lucky in the RAAF 450 Sqn in Palestine (yes, that’s right), North Africa, Sicily, and Italy.

  5. jenauthor

    I’ve posted earlier a link which refutes the idea that depriving your body of sugar does anything at all to starve a cancer. We’ll just have to disagree with this one!

  9. bemused
    Monday, July 24, 2017 at 4:33 pm

    They would both have had a tough time.
    I think my late father was relatively lucky in the RAAF 450 Sqn in Palestine (yes, that’s right), North Africa, Sicily, and Italy.

    *************************************************

    Your Dad SERVED ….. I salute him and all the other young men, at that time, who gave up those years of their life so that we have the free and generally wonderful Australia/World we have today ……

  10. Well, well, well, what a surprise!

    Full-fibre NBN will cost about as much as FttDP: experts

    Switching the national broadband network to using fibre-to-the-distribution-point technology is an interim solution; the correct solution, which will cost about the same, is to go full fibre.

    This is the considered opinion of Mike Quigley, former chief executive of the NBN Co, who was asked by iTWire to offer a view on using FttDP in preference to the fibre-to-the-node technology that the majority of Australians will get under the NBN Co’s current network rollout plan. Rod Tucker, Laureate Emeritus Professor at the University of Melbourne and a member of Labor’s Expert Panel that advised on the NBN, was in agreement on this point.

    A switch to FttDP has been repeatedly advocated by the head of the non-profit, Internet Australia, Laurie Patton.

    Quigley said FttDP was also an interim solution that relied on the copper lead-in and cited a number of negatives for the network operator if this technology was used.

    “It is not necessarily an easy technology to deploy and in introducing another technology variant NBN Co’s long-term operating costs will rise yet again,” he said. “It also requires the build out of a local fibre network which is a big part of what was required for FttP. But given the unreliability of FttN and the inability to predict or guarantee FttN performance for any particular subscriber it is not surprising that NBN Co is talking up FttDP.”

    Quigley was categorical that the right answer was to use FTTP. “It is clearly now the technology of choice for most telcos worldwide – even BT is talking about using more FttP. The argument that it is much more costly than FttDP has been demonstrated to be false.

    “NBN Co is still quoting a cost of $4400 for FttP – the same cost they were quoting back in 2013, but if they just made the decision to use FttP and put some effort into getting the costs down, as Chorus in New Zealand has shown they can do with their 44% cost reduction over a few years, the cost of FttP would be very similar to FttDP. And that is even before you have to start adding in the eventual upgrade costs of FttDP and its impacts on long-term operating costs.”

    Prof Tucker said: “Surprising as it may seem, this means that if NBN Co wanted to, it could be rolling out FttP at about the same cost as its FttN rollout and its HFC upgrade. It is possible that FttP could even be rolled out at about the same cost as FttDP/C by implementing some of the new lower-cost fibre lead-in techniques being used in countries like New Zealand.”

    Mark Gregory, associate professor in network engineering at RMIT, was careful to draw a distinction between FttDP and fibre-to-the-curb, which is the terminology used by NBN Co.

    “There is a clear distinction between FttDP and FttC and there are significant benefits when FttDP is used, as there is an opportunity for premises to be easily upgraded to all fibre,” Gregory told iTWire.

    He said many years ago, he had written about how FttDP would be an improvement over FttN “because it would mean that fibre was rolled out to a pit on the boundary of premises, typically within 40 metres, before copper cable is used for the lead-in”.

    “FttDP would permit fibre self-installation from the pit or service providers could do the fibre installation from the pit for customers that signed up to a 24-month plan similar to how we get mobile handsets on a 24-month plan today.”

    Gregory said the term FttC had been around for much longer and referred to an FttN variation where the fibre was rolled out to within 300 to 400 metres of premises to either a pit or pole, and copper cables used for the lead-in.

    “In Australia, NBN Co adopted this US term and has indicated that it will install fibre to within 150 metres of premises to either a pit or pole and use copper cables for the lead-in,” Gregory said.

    “The percentage of premises that will not have fibre rolled out to the premises boundary is unknown at this time, but if fibre is rolled out any distance from premises the opportunity for self-installation of fibre into premises or for service providers to install the fibre into premises could be lost.”

    https://www.itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/79137-full-fibre-nbn-will-cost-about-as-much-as-fttdp-experts.html

  12. “I want to come home’: [German] ISIS bride, 16, faces death penalty in Iraq
    I feel so sorry for her parents. Running away from home at 15 has never been so dangerous.

    Bloody American Bush administration. They set Iraq up – surely they could have got rid of the more draconian laws. Although of course, they execute their own troubled people in record numbers:
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2017/07/24/german-is-girl-return-home/?utm_source=Responsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20170724_PM_Update

  14. ItzaDream,
    Out of interest, and pls ignore if impertinent, did he get transferred to RNSH? And best wishes all round.

    Not impertinent at all! 🙂

    Well, he was going to be transferred to RNSH from the very beginning, or worse still Westmead, because he has haemophilia as well, but he put his foot down and said, “No! You bring the Factor 8 up here instead!” So they did!

    However, I think that, as Gosford Hospital is slowly being transformed to the Teaching Hospital midway between John Hunter and Royal North Shore, it is the case that they are slowly taking on more complex cases. The Nursing staff are top shelf too!

    I certainly know that I couldn’t have coped with going out of the local area. Last time he had major surgery I had to get family accommodation in the hospital grounds at Westmead. No fun.

    So he has been walking around today, plus with the surgery this afternoon we hope that he is turning the corner. I can’t think of any more problems he might encounter. However, he is full of surprises. 😀

  15. During the past week, I wanted to say two words without receiving the usual opprobrium from the Usual Suspect.

    They were: “Julia Gillard”. Unfortunately, other things prevailed,

    Despite that, I was able to do so, today.

    1. Jeez U love indomitable attention, get in line; lose a righteous defence

    2. Just understand, listening is a gift; if learned, leadership always requires diligence.

    Went over well, I thought.

    There’s more.

  16. phoenixred @ #509 Monday, July 24, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    bemused
    Monday, July 24, 2017 at 4:33 pm
    They would both have had a tough time.
    I think my late father was relatively lucky in the RAAF 450 Sqn in Palestine (yes, that’s right), North Africa, Sicily, and Italy.
    *************************************************
    Your Dad SERVED ….. I salute him and all the other young men, at that time, who gave up those years of their life so that we have the free and generally wonderful Australia/World we have today ……

    Yeah, I was always proud of him and his mates.
    He felt a great sense of obligation after the war to those who did not return and was very active in Legacy.
    He made no pretence of being a hero and was not in the front line or anything like that, but was bombed and strafed, including by the Americans!
    It was interesting how he opened up in his last few years and it seems he and his mates were ahead of their times in some social attitudes.
    He mentioned how they knew a few of their mates were gay, strictly forbidden to serve at the time, but respected them for doing their bit and no-one bothered them.
    He also made a point of having served in Palestine and seems to have had strong views on that.

    Anyway, thanks for not biting when K2 was trying to stir the pot. I did genuinely wonder if it was an abbreviation I was not aware of when you used it the second time.

  17. LU,
    Holy crap, c@t – hope tonight is less eventful, and don’t forget to look after yourself too!

    Cheers! I really felt exhausted today, after being there twice yesterday and then this morning as well. And every day since last Tuesday! However an afternoon’s friendly banter with Bemused has refreshed me. 😀

  21. Regarding Lizzie.
    Lizzie has undertaken to do research into the idea of putting my (old) head onto a young body.
    This project has been long in the making..
    Those of us who saw “Planet of the Apes” all those years ago will have been amazed and delighted to see it and subsequent movies on commercial TV lately. My plan is the join the apes (possible LNP voters) in a reverse evolution manner.

    My new body will be grown in a vat of sweet and sour vegatables and when ready my intelligence and knowledge will be transferred to the brain of the new entity.

    As Bob Menzies noted in reply to a heckler (tell us all you know Bob, it won’t take long) “I’ll tell all we both know, it won’t take any longer”. What this has to do with the subject I wot not.

    And so Lizzie I bless (I’m not really religious in the slightest but like the language) your endeavours and wish you peace and tranquility, which are, I understand, craters on the moon.
    I have now thoroughly confused myself and plan to watch movies of good people ❓ shooting bad people. My plan in this regard is to figure out using symbols and signs from the heavens and the ancient Mayan codices to work out who is the good guy and who the bad.

    Fresh coffee, I must have fresh coffee.
    ☕☕☕

  23. Is it possible they’ve done the math and worked out that by going with a postal plebiscite they’ll exclude enough younger voters (who tend to move around more frequently, especially during University years) to defeat marriage equality?

    Or would their plan more likely be to poison it by framing the question in a dubious/unacceptable way? Or perhaps both?

  24. C@tmomma
    #514 Monday, July 24, 2017 at 4:44 pm
    Thanks for the update.
    I am very pleased that your boy is asserting himself.

  25. joshgnosis: Postal plebiscite can go 2 ways:
    1. Yes. The no camp will say it isn’t legit and push a delay.
    2. No. Yes camp never wanted it so won’t stop

  26. Zeh,
    It’s hard to say whether that is good news, or bad. Minus a tumour= good; loss of 300mm of bowel= bad. However, I bet she’s happy to have it gone. As is my son happy to have his appendix and infected impaction gone. Despite what has happened subsequently. Could’ve been much worse! I guess they have that in common. 🙂

  27. Christ, how many more lame ducks do we need?

    First Rudd, now Abbott, deposed leaders who won’t, nay refuse, to go away.

    And have something to say about everything.

    Just piss off, the pair of you. You were both deposed by your respective party rooms, you know, the people who put your in power in the first place, despite the fact that the MSM makes the populace believe your were elected by the people, because you weren’t up to the job. Just go away.

  28. I reckon the postal plebiscite is an idea the ultra conservative group think that those in favour of ME will boycott, therefore only the die hard r-w & religious nut jobs will respond and they can, by default, so “I told youse so!”

  29. KayJay,
    I am very pleased that your boy is asserting himself.
    He’s MY son after all! 😀

    However the theatre orderly nearly crushed me to death between the lift and his bed last night! They’re obviously not as good as you used to be!

  32. AR:

    The whole point of holding a plebiscite is to ensure it’s nobbled. Guaranteed they will do whatever they can do to ensure that happens if we eventually go the plebiscite route. I mean several Coalition MPs have said outright they wouldn’t even feel bound to vote in favour if the yes vote is majority. That says everything to me.

  33. C@tmomma @ #526 Monday, July 24th, 2017 – 5:01 pm

    Zeh,
    It’s hard to say whether that is good news, or bad. Minus a tumour= good; loss of 300mm of bowel= bad. However, I bet she’s happy to have it gone. As is my son happy to have his appendix and infected impaction gone. Despite what has happened subsequently. Could’ve been much worse! I guess they have that in common. 🙂

    Interesting to note that as a result of 300mm across the intersection of small and large, this also meant my mother lost her appendix. It may well have been the cause of certain imbalances leading to her food intolerances.
    She recovered remarkably well, was back at work a week later (crazy), and prone to a little vanity, she’s contemplating some plastic surgery to restore her belly-button to a normal form, to which her doctor laughed at in a way that implied ‘Belly Button!? You’re lucky to be alive!’
    She had her surgery at the new Orange Base Hospital in central NSW, have heard many good things and much praise for the staff, and now I add my own.

  34. Kezza:

    There was a great column I posted the other day in which the pair of them were referred to as pests, unretired people who really should be retired such is their lack of contribution to public debate in this country. It was an SMH article by Jacqueline Maley if you wanted to search it out.

  36. An observation on Bill Shorten’s appearance on Insiders, July 23, 2017:

    It’s evident Shorten has been working hard on his vocal delivery, presumably under an expert of some kind. I would estimate he has moved downwards at least half an octave in an attempt to achieve greater gravitas and a more convincing aura of prime minister in waiting. If you listen carefully to that interview, there are times where Shorten verges on “vocal fry” – that very low, gutteral sounding delivery used by some American radio presenters such as Brian Reed in the (extraordinarily good) “S-Town” podcast series. It’s a vocal delivery used by quite a number of male indigenous leaders including Noel Pearson and the Dodsons.

    For a striking example, at about 1.43, Shorten says “All of the above Barrie but let’s go to jobs.”

    Also unless I’m mistaken he made a pretty good fist of fixing his “wif” for “with” – that type of thing. If he can keep it up – and not do damage to his vocal chords as some radio announcers affecting a deeper speaking voice have done – then it’s probably a useful thing.

    The other aspect his people could address is to do what Bob Hawke apparently did quite often: always be mindful of where a camera is vis-a-vis his height. In the opening shots of the Insiders interview, Shorten’s legs are practically dangling off the chair like a little kid.

  37. Jenauthor
    Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    For the RW, a plebiscite would also be a campaign opportunity. They can make themselves visible and audible while not also campaigning against their own side. They otherwise continually risk lapsing into obscurity.

    Given the smallest change, they will politicise anything. I for one would not participate in a plebiscite.

  38. c@tmomma @ #529 Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    KayJay,
    I am very pleased that your boy is asserting himself.
    He’s MY son after all!
    However the theatre orderly nearly crushed me to death between the lift and his bed last night! They’re obviously not as good as you used to be!

    I never got around to my voodo rituals (far too cold for dancing naked by the light of the silvery moon).
    Perhaps evading the depredations of theatre orderlies helps one with the agile and whatever else Mr. Turnbull was talking about in the long ago. I watched “Witches” a night or so ago and now think that turning people into mice is far too good for some. Manoevering big trolleys (hospital beds) is an art form much neglected and we need to be able to take evasive action and be quick with the sideways hip thrust when nobody is looking.
    Be kind to yourself and the boys.

  39. The relentless hatred of former PM Rudd is strange indeed and I am led to wonder if it is some kind psychopathy.
    In the latest instance, it seems he may have elicited a comment from the UNHCR that serves to undermine the Libs stance on Asylum Seekers.
    I would also remind you that he was so bad that he was deemed the lesser of the two evils after they had experienced both him and Julia Gillard.
    So what does that say about her?

  40. confessions @ #532 Monday, July 24, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    AR:
    The whole point of holding a plebiscite is to ensure it’s nobbled. Guaranteed they will do whatever they can do to ensure that happens if we eventually go the plebiscite route. I mean several Coalition MPs have said outright they wouldn’t even feel bound to vote in favour if the yes vote is majority. That says everything to me.

    Our beloved Lyle Shelton of the ACL will be like a rat up a drainpipe endeavouring to nobble the outcome.

  41. Jen Author, Fess & C@t

    Glad you agree about the loony toon couple.

    Gotta go to work. Will try to check out your ref, later, Fess. If it’s by J. Maley, then she has sure changed her tune.

    C@t, I did inquire earlier about your son. I’m pleased to hear he’s on top of it. And you’re fighting fit, for both of you. Hope it all ends well.

  42. More interesting comment on the NBN.

    Going full fibre will mean loss of face for Fifield: academic

    Using fibre-to-the-distribution-point technology for the NBN instead of fibre-to-the-node will enable the Turnbull Government to save face and also provide a better network, a senior academic who was involved with the project at its inception says.

    Rod Tucker, Laureate Emeritus Professor at the University of Melbourne and a member of Labor’s Expert Panel that advised on the NBN, told iTWire in response to queries that if NBN Co made a switch from FttN to FttP, then it would reflect badly on Communications Minister Mitch Fifield.

    “After all the recent criticism levelled at FttP by Fifield, how could NBN Co be expected to admit that he is wrong and that FttP is now affordable?” he asked.

    iTWire sought Prof Tucker’s views on the use of FttDP, in the wake of repeated suggestions by Laurie Patton, head of Internet Australia, that the government and opposition should devise a bipartisan policy and switch the remainder of the rollout away from FttN to FttDP.

    “The best option has always been FttP – it is reliable and future-proof, and users such as small businesses that need gigabit per second bandwidth can get it now,” Prof Tucker said. “But the damage has been done – NBN Co is now well into its rollout of FttN. And FttN is the worst possible option. FttN is slow, and the maximum speed depends on the distance between the node and the customer.

    “In addition, there is no easy way to upgrade FttN to FttP or even to FttDP/FttC. An upgrade would involve a rollout of
    new fibre to each premises and trashing the expensive nodes dotted around the streets. Because of this, a FttN network will have much lower resale value than a FttP network.”
    —
    https://www.itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/79139-going-full-fibre-will-mean-loss-of-face-for-fifield-academic.html

  44. BK:

    Yep a plebiscite on SSM would be religious fundie central in the campaign. Guaranteed.

    I can just imagine the creepy pious types who would crawl out of the woodwork as a result. Serious ick.

  46. Barney:

    The lessening we had to have? Or we will decide for whom inequality is lessening and the circumstances in which it is!?

    *grins*

  47. The argument about a public debate on SSM that I don’t quite understand is this: Even if a free vote is held in Parliament, there will be the same kind of public debate won’t there? If the present government accedes to holding a free vote in Parliament then surely they will allow for a significant lead time to ensure this is a debate – and wouldn’t it descend into the same kind of ugliness opponents of a plebiscite fear?

  48. I actually just found that post of yours from the Oncology site and it reinforced my belief in a way – because it is more about the relationship of insulin with cancers and sugars.

    This might be the mechanism – no dietary sugars = no insulin response therefore no feeding the insulin receptors in the cancers.

    My personal aim is to negate the need to produce much insulin so I can normalise the amount that is ever in my blood, and make my body more sensitive to it when it is needed. Apparently, the insulin insensitivity (syndrome X) is one of the main mechanisms that make us fat (women esp.). As I said upthread, the doctor wanted me to take oral insulin meds – renowned for making you fatter – which some of the experts say actually makes the problem worse over time. Strangely enough polycystic ovaries also has an effect, apparently.

    Human biology is the most amazing and complex thing.

    Much like politics and polls!!!!! 😆

  49. @C@Tmomma

    Out of bed and walking around is good news. There are lots of tests you can do, but one not frequently mentioned (but immensely useful) is the ‘end-of-the-bed-test’ by a knowing pair of eyes (and mothers). Sounds like he’s passed it.

  50. @ C@t

    Ronald McDonald house was fantastic when my son was a guest of the NICU at Monash Medical Centre. His stay there would have been much more stressful and unpleasant had it not been for them.

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