As reported here in early May, British-based market research giant YouGov has entered the Australian federal polling game, in conjunction with Australian communications agency Fifty Acres. After reporting attitudinal polling on a fortnightly basis over recent months, the pollster has produced its first set of voting intention numbers, which are exclusively related below.
First though, a few points about methodology. The poll is conducted through an online panel, similar to Essential Research, and indeed an increasingly dominant share of public opinion polls internationally. The polling is conducted fortnightly from Thursday to Tuesday from a sample of a bit over 1000 respondents (1125 in the case of the latest survey), drawn from its pool of survey volunteers.
With respect to voting intention, respondents are presented with a mock ballot paper featuring (together with party logos) Coalition options that vary by state, Labor, the Greens, One Nation, Nick Xenophon Team, Katter’s Australian Party, a generic option for “Christian parties”, and “other/independent”. The results are weighted not just by age, gender and region, which is standard in Australian polling, but also by education and past vote. The latter two are common in Britain but, as far as I’m aware, unique in Australia. Needless to say, this leads to two-party preferred results based on respondent allocation, rather than results from previous elections.
The results for this week’s poll are distinctive in the narrowness of the two-party preferred, with Labor’s lead at 51-49, and low primary votes for both major parties, which come in at 34% for Labor and 33% for the Coalition. Results for the minor parties are Greens 12%, One Nation 7%, Christian parties 4%, Nick Xenophon Team 3%, Katter’s Australian Party 1% and other/independent 6%.
The first thing to be noted is that Labor would record a much stronger lead of 54-46 if preferences were distributed as per the 2016 result, rather than respondent allocation. However, such is the size of the non-major party vote that this would be heavily dependent on preference flows remaining stable despite some fairly dramatic changes in vote share. The second point is that the Greens are two to three points higher than the recent form of Newspoll and Essential Research, although not Ipsos. One Nation and the Nick Xenophon Team respectively come in at 7% and 3%, which would be fairly typical coming from Essential Research, but the combined vote of 11% for everyone else is around double the equivalent figure from Newspoll and Essential Research over the past two months.
For the regular attitudinal questions, this fortnight’s poll focuses on Donald Trump, with findings that 58% consider him “erratic” and a third “unhinged” (not sure if the one response here precludes the other, or if we should combine them to conclude that nearly everybody considers him unstable or worse); that 47% think his presidency threatens to destabilise the world; that 44% feel he won’t last long; and that 52% think his use of Twitter not suitable for a world leader. The poll also records 52% saying Australia is “ready to be fully powered by renewables”, 47% considering climate change a threat to the economy, and 51% supporting the inclusion of clean coal in a clean energy target.
NOTE: Separate to this one, I have a new post that takes a detailed look at the census results.
Grimace
…but, but…Malcolm has already proved that He is An Ordinary Person who Mixes With The Masses by using Public Transport. If he looks awkward and ill at ease whilst doing so, it’s because he’s a modest man, and finds the spontaneous outbursts of adoration demonstrated by Ordinary People on these excursions very humbling.
https://newmatilda.com/2017/06/28/the-poisoned-chalice-breakthrough-wa-study-shines-a-light-on-global-water-contamination/
This morning Richard Di Natale was interviewed by Fran Kelly on ABC RN Breakfast.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/we-will-come-out-stronger-and-more-united:-di-natale/8662198
Morning bludgers
BK, PhoenixRed and ors
Appreciate today’s roundup!
Meanwhile in Victoria two ALP MPs are being investigated.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/police-open-investigation-into-telmo-languiller-and-don-nardella-20170628-gx0hmv.html
Zounds and Ye Gads!! Did she actually watch any of the last election campaign?? That said it would be mighty entertainment to watch Malcolm try and connect….particularly as his mate Tones taint goin nowhere for a while.
How far does the Greens’ discipline extend? Surely branches have a right to lobby their parliamentary representative to vote in a certain way?
As a Senator, the threat which can be used as leverage is loss of preselection, particularly when the party members have a vote. If Rhiannon ignores the wishes of her branches, they will preselect someone who will listen to them.
The rumour going around in past week, is that The Washington Post have a big scoop on the Trump Imbroglio that is a game changer.
Apparently have held off reporting it by specific request of Intell Services under the guise of national security.
Pegasus
Referred to the policy by Matthew Guy and the Liberal Party.
Ides Of March @ #46 Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 8:26 am
Grimace mentioned it a couple of days ago.
It was a ‘known’ that Porter was investigating nearby safe Lib seats with the idea of saving himself by seeing if he could get someone to chuck it in (or the prospect of seizing the pre-selection).
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-29/hunch-politics-politicians-get-away-with-peddling-porkie/8658716
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/abbott-urges-government-investigates-nuclear-submarines-option/news-story/a2aa837b755a8c14f6a81333fdd2c125
Tony wants our submarine capability to be completely, utterly and forever dependent on American goodwill. He really is an idiot and if he’s positioning himself as the intellectual standard bearer for the conservatives they are in serious manure.
Fact Check: http://www.abc.net.au/news/factcheck/2017-06-05/fact-check-has-the-government-cut-22bn-from-schools/8526768
NSW Labor apparently offering half price membership to disaffected Greens members….
Zoomster:
This looks to me to be another ‘Get Rhiannon’ hatchet job by Di Natale that has blown up in his face.
peg
Why? Didn’t you see the word ‘like’ in the sentence?
Something about to happen on Pell?
Pell to be summonsed on child sex claims
8:42AMJOHN FERGUSON
Victoria Police are expected to announce today what the charge or charges are. (Oz headline)
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/28/first-northern-territory-independent-commission-against-corruption-icac-announced
Lizzie
“It brings back memories of the mining magnate, Lang Hancock, saying someone should dope our water to make us sterile and that would take care of the Aboriginal problem.” 😈
I have added this as a note in my thesis that there are at least two branches of modern humans. Some have empathy and others …………………:?:
This will go down like a lead balloon in some States:
Morrison’s GST threat for states
DAVID UREN
Scott Morrison has threatened states and territories he will cut their GST distribution if they limit gas exploration. (Oz headline)
Not quite new News?
KayJay
That sentence stood out for me, too. Can’t help thinking that in spite of her soft voice and pillowy shape, Gina has the same hard core.
Ah, the ABC.
https://newmatilda.com/2017/06/23/bad-aunty-seven-years-how-abc-lateline-sparked-racist-nt-intervention/
Citizen
Bullying. Morrison showing his true character?
I have added this as a note in my thesis that there are at least two branches of modern humans. Some have empathy and others …………………:?:
Vote Liberal
I just posted the following on Trumble’s fedback page:
I am not expecting a considered reply.
Advice please.
For the last week, when I attempt to watch ABC24 on computer, I get this message:
I have not changed anything AFAIK. Is there anything I can do about it?
Paula Matthewson –
I note she says could also work for Turnbull.
Going to Liberal Branch meetings is, in theory, a lot safer than a ‘town hall’ with the general public, but maybe not so for Turnbull in his current situation.
Doing ‘Town Hall’ meetings with a crowd of locals with all sorts of opinions and Turnbull taking questions and giving answers sounds a much more risky proposition for him than it is for Shorten.
Pyne force to apologize for suggesting ‘marriage equality might happen sooner than people think’. I feel like a must be exaggerating as i say this, but i think that apology could be the final nail in the coffin for this government.
How can the PM claim to be in control of the government or the country when he doesnt have control of his own party, when he is forced by a minority faction to order the leader of the house to apologies for making popularist comments.
If MP’s cant speak to issues that are popular in the electorate they cant claim to be ‘a broad church’, it undermines the rules the party has operated under for a long time.
I like to see myself as being pretty strategic, but i cant see any way out this for them, there are two prizes, government and the soul of the party, there are two sides, the only way to maintain the status quo is for moderates to win both prizes, there is only one scenario i can think of that might save them, that is if Abbott willingly quits politics, we all know the chances of that.
‘Gender quotas increase the competence of organisations by leading to the displacement of mediocre men, a new study has found.
The research counters one of the key arguments often put forward against the introduction of minimum quotas to promote equality in the workplace: that such targets are unmeritocratic.
While some claim targets for the inclusion of underrepresented groups lead to the promotion of individuals that do not deserve it, economists at the London School of Economics found that the reverse is true. Quotas can work to weed out incompetent men.’
‘…The LSE team studied a strict gender quota introduced by Sweden’s Social Democratic party for its candidates in 1993.
At the time, some men were more critical than others, the LSE researchers say. The quota became known colloquially as the “crisis of the mediocre man,” because incompetent men had the most to fear from an influx of women into politics.’
‘…“Mediocre leaders have a strong incentive to surround themselves with mediocre followers, so as to bolster their chances of remaining in power.” Quotas, they say, create a threat to such “cozy arrangements”.
“Our main finding is that gender quotas increase the competence of the political class in general, and among men in particular. Moreover, quotas are indeed bad news for mediocre male leaders who tend to be forced out,” the researchers said.’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/workplace-gender-quotas-incompetence-efficiency-business-organisations-london-school-economics-lse-a7797061.html
So maybe adopting quotas would be the best way of ‘saving’ the Liberal party.
A LONG article but it explains a lot :
Fundamentalism, racism, fear and propaganda: An insider explains why rural, Christian white America will never change
As the aftermath of the election of Donald Trump is still being sorted out, a common theme keeps cropping up from all sides: “Democrats failed to understand white, working-class, fly-over America.”
Trump supporters are saying this. Progressive pundits are saying this. Talking heads across all forms of the media are saying this. Even some Democratic leaders are saying this. It doesn’t matter how many people say it, it is complete bullshit. It is an intellectual/linguistic sleight of hand meant to throw attention away from the real problem. The real problem isn’t east coast elites who don’t understand or care about rural America. The real problem is rural America doesn’t understand the causes of their own situations and fears and they have shown no interest in finding out. They don’t want to know why they feel the way they do or why they are struggling because they don’t want to admit it is in large part because of choices they’ve made and horrible things they’ve allowed themselves to believe.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/fundamentalism-racism-fear-and-propaganda-an-insider-explains-why-rural-christian-white-america-will-never-change/
Is this new polling group aligned with a particular news outlet … iow will they be reporting regularly or will they go behind a paywall after a while?
Long time lurker, first time poster. Hi all.
I was polled by YouGov on Monday night, and wasn’t overly impressed. The “Christian Parties” option is particularly questionable, and I can’t for the life of me work out why I was asked if I voted for NXT given that I live in NSW (and no, not in Warringah). The Animal Justice Party received more first preference votes than NXT in NSW – why not give them an individual billing too?
‘ Turnbull should go to Liberal branch meetings around the country to circumvent Abbott and assure the conservative base that he is not Karl Marx reincarnate. ‘
Um, these are the people who are supposed to be voting for him regardless.
ratsak @ #75 Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:15 am
You do make me laugh. Very good.
ScoMo just desperately flailing. Ignore him. GST allocation is determined by the Grants Commission. To reject their formula would be to open up the gates of hell. The Loons make WA wait for their GST allocation to go up because of the formula.
Once the principle of allocation to achieve Horizontal Fiscal Equalisation is trashed ScoMo would find himself unable to scratch his arse for the Premiers knocking down his door to squeeze him for money. That’s even before the backlash in any state dudded.
It’s stupid talk from a government without a clue but desperate to find a distraction. Going the same way as State Income Tax.
If I may ask, how did you come to be on the YouGov panel. Did you volunteer or were you offered a place?
Imagine how many questions Trumble would get at town hall meetings about the NBN? People would not accept his labor to blame bullshit. They will throw mouses at him. It will not happen.
Citizen – I signed up out of curiosity. All other surveys that I’ve completed for them have been market research.
Just as a matter of interest, is it legally possible for an ex president who has already served two consecutive terms to run again at a later time? Probably not, but based on those figures wouldn’t it be great for the US and the world if Obama could contest the 2020 election? He’d almost certainly win it hands down.
Thanks and hi, ChkChkChk. Interesting stuff about YouGov. They seem to be making it up as they go along. Perhaps foreign outfits like YouGov and Ipsos don’t understand compulsory and preferential voting.
ChkChkChk – thanks.
NSA Director Mike Rogers complains to Congress about Donald Trump
By Bill Palmer
If you’re concerned about Donald Trump’s performance and his willingness to listen to reason, and if you’ve found yourself complaining to others about Trump’s erratic nature, it turns out you’re in good company. NSA Director Mike Rogers has complained to Congress that Trump won’t take intel seriously, won’t take the Russian threat seriously, and won’t take cyber espionage seriously, among other concerns.
That’s the word from CNN, which is reporting that when Rogers recently testified before Congress behind closed doors, he “expressed frustration to lawmakers about his inability to convince the President to accept US intelligence that Russia meddled in the election” . In other words, the Director of the NSA is sufficiently exasperated by Donald Trump’s stonewalling and obliviousness that he’s been willing to vent to Congress about it, even knowing full well that his comments were going to end up leaking to the public.
This comes not long after word surfaced that Donald Trump had tried and failed to lean on Mike Rogers, in the hope of getting him to meddle in the FBI’s investigation into the Trump-Russia collusion scandal . The NSA ended up documenting Trump’s attempts at obstruction in memos, which will likely end up being used as evidence in the Special Counsel investigation being led by Robert Mueller.
In the mean time, the willingness of Mike Rogers to complain about Donald Trump to Congress means that you’re not just imagining it when it comes to Trump’s level of sheer unsuitability for the job. Trump truly is ignoring key verifiable threats to the United States, simply because he doesn’t want to have to admit to himself that Russian election interference is why he’s in office to begin with, and that he didn’t really win the election of his own accord.
Pell about to be charged? Holy Crap.
confessions @ #41 Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 8:09 am
You didn’t miss it. It was confined to you and Kezza.
CHK
{grin}
I responded to a post (from C@t?) about Porter seeking a safe seat in WA, and ran through the options.
There are only three safe seats in the WA metro area. Curtin, the safest of them is Mesma’s seat and she’s already said she’s going nowhere. Moore and Tangney are the other two, both of which are held by MP’s nobody has ever heard of.
If Porter wants a sea change then perhaps he’ll consider Forrest (south west WA). O’Connor and Durack are too far away from anywhere, covering the remote southern and northern half’s of WA respectively, for an ambitious person like Porter to be interested in.
Grimace
‘Sea change’? Try Cyclone shelter!
zoomster @ #64 Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:02 am
Bad move. Who would want them?
Good morning all,
Poor old Scott Morrison.
WA has been crying out for yonks for changes to the GST allocation formula and every time Morrison and Turnbull have passed full responsibility back to the states.
” Any changes must have support from all states and territories” has been the standard reply from both of them every time.
Now, all of a sudden Morrison is holding the states to ransom re GST allocation. Instead of our hands are tied it is now we will give you less GST revenue if you do not play nice. The stupidity of this government amazes me. I am sure WA and other states will be very interested in the announcement by Morrison who is now pretty much saying ” the federal government controls allocation of GST revenue and we can change it as we see fit”. If that is now the case then Turnbull can no longer hide behind the excuses of the past. He will try but I will wait with great interest to see him and Morrison try to wriggle out of it.
Cheers.