Essential Research’s fortnight rolling average has Labor’s two-party lead unchanged at 54-46, the only change on the primary vote being a one point drop for Labor to 37%, with the Coalition on 37%, the Greens on 10% and One Nation on 6%. An occasional question on the attributes of the parties yields little change since it was last asked in May, the biggest movers being “have good policies”, “clear about what they stand for” and “too close to big corporate and financial interests” for Labor, all of which are down five points. Another question finds Labor more trusted to find Medicare, the NDIS, universities, the age pension and public schools, but the Coalition more trusted to fund independent and private schools (keeping in mind that not everyone would feel these things should be funded). Labor’s specific budget response proposals all get highly positive responses; more respondents oppose (39%) than favour (24%) removing the deficit levy on the top income tax rate; and an overwhelming majority (78% to 7%) expect the bank levy will be passed on to customers.
timothy reichle @ #1646 Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 4:36 pm
Yes, they always get it wrong. {wink}
lizzie @ #1609 Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 3:08 pm
Poroti,
I guess it depends on what Jared wanted to do with the back channels of the Russkies. 🙂
Lizzie
What I tried to say was –
The words “once photogenic” spring to mind.
Sky News Australia
23 mins ·
Labor Senator Lisa Singh says it’s clear Aboriginal people want their voices heard in Australian parliament. #agenda MORE http://bit.ly/2r84o37
Perhaps I’m reading too much into it, but I get the feeling that Shorten, as well as positioning Labor to win the next election, has got a parallel strategy of totally fracturing the conservative side of politics so they are removed as a threat for a long time.
He is keeping up relentless pressure, but in a low key way, and just waiting for them to crack.
Darn,
You seem a little agitated. I’m not complaining just making observations and pointing out the obvious double standards that is de rigeur around here.
New posters have come and gone here, rarely lasting long, much to the detriment of this blog.
Re clocking in and out….Woo hoo, I am here. Now I am not. What a hoot it would be if every PB Laborite was expected to do the same.
(Last comment on this. It’s been fun but I am moving on)
pegasus @ #1657 Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 4:59 pm
You forgot to clock on!
C@Tmomma
It very much does indeed and what that was Ye an Me would not have a clue 🙂
Well I wish you’d do that not whingeing and whining like toddler. You got something to say, say it. You don’t got something to say then shut up and lurk.
I have a lot of time for Greg Jericho’s analyses, but I’m not sure he’s right on saying Labor should back Gonski 2.o.
There are a lot of valid points he makes, but what I think he missed was that Labor hammering Turnbull about the $22.3 billion shortfall over 10 years was based on a briefing note put out by the PM’s dept. saying precisely that. It was brought into parliament by Tanya Plibersek and used by Shorten to frame his questions. WTTE, if the Prime Minister can put it in writing, why can’t he say it out loud?
I’m chuckling. Ch10 breathlessly reported that it is possible that Corby’s mother has arrived home with a bag of groceries.
Something you all needed to know – not.
TR,
It’s confusing isn’t it. On the one hand the meme is the Greens Party is oh so pure, is never pragmatic, never compromises on anything and demands perfect policy / 100 per cent.
However it’s fine for Labor to vote with the Coalition when it suits (‘good deals’) to legislate poor policy that doesn’t equate with 100% of its policy platform.
On the other hand, the Greens Party are “sell-outs” if they opt to support legislation that might be a “baby step” (often-used Laborite rationalisation when it suits) on the road to sorting out an intractable mess resulting from successive Coalition and Labor governments.
Also don’t forget the Greens Party are simultaneously irrelevant and exert so much influence that apparently it is responsible for every Labor policy failure and political strategy failure.
Get with the program.
http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com.au/2017/05/queensland-one-nation-have-peaked-so.html
Queensland: One Nation Have Peaked So Now What?
In which – among other things – I observe that no first-term Australian state government has lost an election while the opposite party holds power federally since 1968, and even in that case the losing party won the 2PP convincingly and was diddled by malapportionment.
Lizzie:
Having lived through the last decade plus of Corby hysteria from our media, I can only imagine the inanities the industry is dishing up now she’s back in Oz.
lizzie @ #1662 Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 5:13 pm
Veggies with strange green leaves?
Perhaps I’m reading too much into it
No I don’t think so. No question the Libs infighting and incompetence is helping him immensely, but Shorten to me seems to be extremely ‘lucky’ in the way he can lead his opposite into dead ends and foolishness; and exploit and exacerbate divisions.
Bemused,
ha ha Where’s the clock?
Bloody “wimmin” 😆 . Chaps will be outraged. Yoof are even worse.
“female voters surge towards Jeremy Corbyn”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/27/exclusive-telegraph-orb-poll-labour-narrows-gap-six-points-women/
https://www.facebook.com/BillShorten/photos/a.466317820071451.94571.464998863536680/1340100976026460/?type=3&theater
lizzie @ #1671 Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 5:38 pm
What a brilliant slap in the face!
Bipartisan opposition in WA to decriminalise drugs to reduce harm.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-28/ama-calls-for-new-ways-to-deal-with-drug-users/8567000
Yes, so lucky that perhaps he makes his own : )
And more luck again with his budget responses. These got whacked about by many on the MSM and the usual PB hate Shorten crowd.
From the Essential of this thread:
Restrict the Medicare levy increase to taxpayers earning more than $87k per year, rather than all taxpayers: Approve 55% Disapprove 21%.
Continue the ‘deficit levy’ on earnings above $180k per year: Approve 54% Disapprove 10%.
Oppose a cut to the company tax rate, which is expected to cost $65bn over ten years: Approve 41% Disapprove 23%.
In all cases the remainder either don’t care or don’t know.
On Corby and the “media frenzy”,just turn the TV off. I have.
I thank (whoever) that modern TV’s have a USB playback function for streaming your own media. I rarely watch “live ” TV anymore. Bliss,pure Bliss…lol
“Bipartisan opposition in WA to decriminalise drugs to reduce harm.”
As is probably appropriate in WA the Labor government is extremely centrist, they do not look like having the desire or courage to go out onto any branches like this, whether or not it might be good to do so. While I do not think they should break any election commitments at all it is a little disappointing to find a labor government well to the right of me, and I’m pretty right myself.
peg does her usual trick – telling people she’s going and then, just when she’s lulled us all into a false sense of security, revealing that she never actually left but hung around a bit just to see if someone said something behind her back.
It’s beyond childish.
poroti @ #1638 Sunday, May 28th, 2017 – 4:12 pm
Show me just one other nation which Kushner proposed establishing a comparable arrangement with, and I’ll accept that argument. Despite the technicality that he had absolutely no official authority to be doing that sort of thing at the time, making his actions very much not part of the normal game.
Otherwise, absolutely treason and very disingenuous to pretend that it’s purely a coincidence that the one and only nation which Kushner urgently wanted to arrange “back channel” access to was Russia.
If the Greens decide to rip $22Billion (or indeed any amount south of that) out of education funding ..then it will be the beginning of the end for them..
If there’s a random Newspoll tonight, I predict Labor 54.5, LNP 45.5, two party preferred.
I know prediction is a mug’s game, but hey!
Yep, I haven’t bothered with media today, outside of that which I can choose, ie news websites. To say I’m done with what passes for ‘news’ these days is a massive understatement!
Bemused
Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 12:20 pm
This is a very level-headed series of reflections on British politics.
Zoomster:
Lizzie belled the cat earlier by making the observation that only Pegasus throws a tantrum when others don’t respond to her posts. I’d posit this is because Peg only posts stuff to deliberately inflame others rather than to add anything to the debate.
Who’s feeding Shapelle’s poor abandoned dogs? Why were they not brought to Australia?
Maybe one of the TV stations could set up a fund for them in exchange for video footage of her mum’s shopping bag contents?
Oh – – – does this have any implications for our submarine build?
But it could take years, or even decades, to train up thousands of new shipyard workers. The two U.S. shipyards that build submarines—Electric Boat in Connecticut and Newport News Shipyard in Virginia—learned this the hard way more than 20 years ago.
“Only two submarines were procured from 1991 to 1998,” Lt. Seth Clarke, a Navy spokesperson, told The Daily Beast. “The expertise for submarine construction was dismantled.” Around 2005, the Navy decided to begin buying two submarines annually. It took seven years of hiring and training for the shipyards to get ready. It wasn’t until 2012 that the Navy could actually begin ordering the extra subs.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/28/trumps-navy-is-already-sunk
Looks like we will have to ramp up the 457 visa programme after all.
A R
Well FMD , ya reckon the “coincidence” just maybe, just maybe because they are the one country that could incinerate America ? Might just pay to check out what was for public consumption and what are their private “red lines”.
pegasus @ #1668 Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 5:27 pm
Your announcement prior to posting anything will suffice.
Similarly, to clock off, make that your last action.
Your cooperation will be appreciated.
fess
Yes – early on, I used to try and engage with peg. Of course, she couldn’t answer any questions about the articles she’d posted, and used the ‘I just post them’ excuse, as if she just picked any old article out of mid air.
briefly @ #1682 Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 6:24 pm
Yeah, right! Slagging off the Labour leader and boosting the Blairite remnants still in Parliament.
Very helpful!
Damn! SBS news has a lengthy item on a convicted criminal returning to Australia.
Zoomster
Rex is fixated on Shorten and that is easier to cope with (for me) than Peg’s assumption that we all think the same, so sweeping statements about all PBers are fine. That really gets up my nose.
(It’s cold and I’m retiring early, now 😉 )
Pegasus @ 2:36
“I’m going now”, or wtte.
It’s a pity that I have a life outside PB, and thus wasn’t around to say “don’t let the door hit you in the backside” or “come back when you don’t have as much time”
truly, Pegasus, Smeagol/ Gollum would love you, you are so ‘precious’
BTW ,bemused, I would have said the same, if the dear lady were here.. Heavens, perhaps she is!
Zoomster:
She’s been a scroll-by for me for a while now. At least Rex, while I rarely agree with him, offers his own views and opinions. And doesn’t pitch a fit when people criticise his views, or put that criticism down to some kind of group think.
Yes – early on, I used to try and engage with peg. Of course, she couldn’t answer any questions about the articles she’d posted, and used the ‘I just post them’ excuse, as if she just picked any old article out of mid air.
And, whenever challenged to present an argument in defence of her position as implied in the articles she cuts and pastes, she either resorts to vitriol and snark against the challenger, or disappears, only to reappear later with no answers to previous questions!
Incredibly frustrating!
So Bill Shorten is me too-ing to the Govts inclination to send more troops to the never-ending war in Afghanistan.
Pathetic.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/may/28/labor-boost-australian-troop-numbers-afghanistan-richard-marles
Peg’s assumption that we all think the same, so sweeping statements about all PBers are fine. That really gets up my nose.
Yes. Apparently the latest insult du jour is to call us ‘Laborites’! 😆
Actually, I did post a comment about Greg Jericho’s article, and though I think he is an astute writer, where I thought he may have got it wRONg, while agreeing with some of his points.
Pegasus didn’t engage with that.
Should I get in a snit?
Signed,
confused.
Oh, and I’m leaving soon too! To go and live my other life camped in front of the telly watching Masterchef with the kids. 🙂
Monica Lynagh,
You must be feeling unloved and unappreciated. 😉
Of course, McTernan’s remarks about Australian politics are also spot on. He is a clear thinker and well worth listening to.