Essential Research, which is still the only polling series back in the game after the election, records Labor maintaining a 52-48 lead in the latest reading of its fortnightly rolling average, with primary votes also unchanged at Coalition 39%, Labor 37%, Greens 10% and Nick Xenophon Team 4%. Also featured:
• Support for nominating Kevin Rudd for Secretary-General of the United Nations was finely balanced at 36% for and 39% against, which was predictably split along party lines.
• Thirty-seven per cent said Tony Abbott should resign from parliament; 25% that he should be given a ministry; and 21% that he should remain on the back bench. A similar question in March found 47% saying he should quit at the looming election, with 18% saying he should be given a ministry and 15% that he should remain on the back bench.
• Capping after-tax super contributions backdated at $500,000 recorded 29% approval and 34% disapproval.
• A question on groups that would be better and worse off under the re-elected Coalition government returned the usual results, with large companies and the high-income earners expected to do very well indeed, small businesses somewhat less well but still net positive, and various categories of struggler expected to do poorly.
• As it does on a semi-regular basis, the pollster asked questions on trust in various media outlets. However, this asked specifically on reportage of the federal election campaign, dropped separate questions for the news and current affairs as distinction from talkback programming of “ABC radio” and “commercial radio”, and in the case of the newspapers, dropped the normal proviso that respondents be be a readers of the paper in question to qualify for inclusion. This led to much lower levels of trust being recorded for the newspapers across the board, while the radio results split the difference between the higher results that are normally recorded for news and current affairs, and the lower results for talkback. As far as relativities are concerned, the results as before find television the most trusted medium, public broadcasters favoured over commercial ones. However, The Australian did not perform significantly better than News Corporation tabloids, as it has usually done in the past, whereas the Fairfax papers continued to record somewhat higher levels of trust than News Corporation ones.
greensborough growler @ #146 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 8:54 pm
Ohhhh GG, I love it when you talk anti-intellectual!
Nearly as good as your pro-ignorance blasts.
Psyclaw
Well said
Also Stanca
dtt
‘People who read a lot – be it novels, internet or policy documents will not be bogans almost by definition. ‘
So Gillard is not a bogan.
z,
Plus she’s a knitter.
It is well known that Bogans can’t knit!
Zoomster
I suppose it depends on what you read – Mills and Boon and airport novels probably do not count. I think to escape being bogan you need at least the Russian greats, Dickens, Margaret Atwood and Patrick White (smiley).
zoomster @ #153 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:00 pm
So it was just an affectation? 😛
Re Bogan and “Chav”
>>>>>>>>>>
In the UK there is a word used..”chav “……
which denotes a kind off Bogan ///much favoured by the tories which like to see the working class types as just above he level of the larger apes…fits with the classic view held by the UK Ruling Class…appalling as they are …sadly the UK has never had a revolution like France or Russia which in the long run really scares the shit out of the elites …some off who,may survive
And Musrum :). And in case my last post had an attack of the Gerbils I said nice things about BK and Guytaur. Right – going to shut up for a year or two now…
G’day Deblonay. Good to see you again despite your Greens proclivities. 😀
stanca @ #158 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:06 pm
Stick around.
Some of us value diversity, even if we may not entirely agree.
Zoomster
I am trying to approach the topic in a dispassionate way, so cut the emotive stuff. The term is used to describe a subset of Australians. It has cultural connotations. Sure it IS used disparagingly often, although these days it has been rather claimed back like “queer” as a term of pride.
The reality is that Gillard either was bogan or chose to convey a bogan image. That is a choice she made. It is pretty stupid to deny the reality of her cultural image. It might even be said with justification that by sticking to her “bogan” image Gillard was exhibiting confidence in who she is and where she is from. By contrast I am sure we all know people of working class background who cultivate an “educated” accent and adopt a slightly absurd “cultivated” image waxing on about art or music.
I can be a bit of a bogan at times although not really. It likely depends on the day. A well read and opinionated, occasionally potty mouthed hippy-bogan maybe? Who can say? Some might agree and others not. Perception is a curious thing.
The British have a much richer culture than us Aussie.
They even have competitive ‘Upper Class Twits”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqObJtGrKaA
Nicole, you can be a bogan, just make sure you don’t become a Nerangutan
Vogan,
Do you reckon we’ll ever have Bogan Poetry?
Deblonay
Good to see you.
It might just be my perception but I somehow find the term Bogan less offensive than the UK chav. I might be kiddling myself however.
DTT
This might help dispel your uncertainty about what a bogan is.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogan
GG, only writing their own wedding vows
dtt
I’m not at all perturbed about someone being described as a bogan. My sisters were definitely bogans (probably still are) and it’s an absolute truth that some of my best friends are.
Your definition is at fault, and contradictory.
A bogan (almost by definition) is a working class Australian – a pommie doesn’t cut it, and Gillard is a pom. Your genuine bogan has a couple of generations of Aussie behind them.
As I pointed out, Gillard didn’t dress like a bogan, but a Melbournian. (Some Melbournians are bogans, but they don’t wear pants suits) – and a professional Melbournian woman, at that.
It was you who said that Gillard was a bogan because she didn’t read and then said that someone who read policy documents was, by definition, not a bogan. If you haven’t got your definition sorted out, don’t be surprised if others dispute it.
😆
Nah, it’d just be recitals of Guns n Roses and AC/DC songs. You can skip the poetry part and go straight to Bogan Bingo for that, so can’t see Bogan Poetry catchin on.
vogon poet @ #164 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:13 pm
LOL.. Got my mind ticking now. Did I ever mention Nerang here? I don’t think so. I’m outed.
Re election result
+++++++++
Now that we see Turnbull with only a 76-74 majority,it tends to highlight the result that might have come had Labor done better in Vic.which saw the only ALP seat loss…Chisholm…and the failure to win either marginal seats of Dunkley or Corangamite which might’ve been won with a swing like those in Tas/NSW /WA and even QLand
BTW..The Murdoch Press has it seems forgotten now about the CFA issue which has now disappeared…looking at the recent issue of the Murdoch-Sun in Melb I find not a word about what a few weeks ago was deemed a major issue….an issue very badly managed by the Andrews Govt,it must b e said …, and which must have helped the Libs in Vic …and ensured their Canberra majority… though it is a tiny one…otherwise The Libs might have been lucky to have got 73 seats…Andrews so far has escaped criticism ….lucky man
Vogan,
So, no is the answer since true Bogans don’t get married they just shack up together.
Zoomster
Stop quibbling. Gillard was NOT known as a policy wonk. She was a negotiator and union lawyer. Not a policy analyst.
nicole @ #172 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:22 pm
You mentioned it yesterday I think. Or maybe the day before.
My husband used to play in a band called ‘Ken Oath and the Drongoes’. : )
bemused @ #167 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:16 pm
That’s a truly horrid depiction. Mine is a lot more affectionate. Then again I grew up in a household where we liked to make fun of ourselves and laugh about it. 🙂
Deblonay
Far more serious was Labor’s very poor outcome here in Qld. We picked up just 2 seats.
I don’t know why the Melburnites haven’t mentioned fluffy moccasins and bogans in the same sentence. : )
Wow
All I will say on the reignited flame war. This is not about Rudd. Its about Turnbull lying and as a result as some in MSM have noted possibly misleading parliament.
Rudd’s suitability or lack of it would have been decided in the selection process.
Unless such a candidate can be shown to be insane and no matter what I have heard they have not then Rudd should be put forward as the expert departmental opinion and as the majority of cabinet decided both facts we learnt from leaks.
THE IMPORTANT NEWS FROM THE RUDD SAGA IS THAT THE TURNBULL CABINET IS LEAKING.
Look how media reported that when it happened under Gillard.
Love hate or meh about Mr Rudd this is not really about him its about the PM
nicole @ #178 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:26 pm
The Urban Dictionary is the authoritative reference.
Some of us value diversity, even if we may not entirely agree.
You”re all different. …….. I’m not.
Sorry, watched it on SBS the other night. That just reminded me of it. Great movie.
Oops
Sorry I did not notice the flame war was over. Sorry Sorry Sorry
bemused @ #176 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:25 pm
Oh phew! lol. Still… I had best behave myself a little more now I am not feeling so anonymous. 😀
If anyone is calling Julia Gillard a bogan they are not doing it as a sign of respect. It is an insult and put down of her and her parents, deliberately targetted and used, with a sprinkling of condencation to sweeten the slap.
Not only is it a miserable act, it is a cowardly one at that.
Is Shane Warne the gold standard bogan ?
Momma,
We keep the best things for ourselves (including our weather).
C@
I referred to ugg boots – but these were replaced by desert boots. I’m not sure what the up to date bogan wears nowadays…crocs in summer, I would think (note to self: check out sisters’ shoe collection…)
c@tmomma @ #177 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:25 pm
Hahahaha… great name.
This is what I came to post about some good news and a fun twitter meme
johndory49: #Manus closing: PNG court orders Oz to provide resettlement plan by Thursday. smh.com.au/federal-politi… #auspol pic.twitter.com/bj2irkg3fx
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CharBlueChief: @realDonaldTrump starring in ‘Clueless’ #DonaldTrumpTheMovie pic.twitter.com/XXXLFTpp0Y
Sky News Australia
13m13 minutes ago
Sky News Australia @SkyNewsAust
.@PMOnAir says the PM has done a backroom deal with failed liberal MP Peter Hendy because he owes him his leadership http://snpy.tv/2awyaFP
Yummmm.. Dinner.
Ugghh desert.
Nicole: “OK, I confess. I am an undercover Rudd groupie who should have her opinions completely ignored because she is brainwashed by her cult leader Bemused or is he a sub cult leader, must be. I bow down to you dear leader. I bow down to you oh Kevie. I lay aside all of my common sense and capacity to think rationally to serve you oh my leader. I shall go undercover and join the pollbludger blog so I can teach them the beauty of your ways oh my leader. In Kevin’s name. Amen (or should that be ffs).”
What was that about the lady”doth protest too much, methinks”? “The boot fits, wear it.”?
Hit me with your best shot: Gossip Girls!! Sock it to me. he he he
Puff
Well call me out. Gillard is a bogan or at least conveys that image. Call me a middle class “w**ker” if you want and you may be right, but the reality is that most of the electorate saw her in that cultural group.
Kevin is not a bogan. He is a a high class rat.
nicole @ #185 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:29 pm
I remember because I wondered where the hell it was and looked it up on Google maps.
guytaur @ #184 Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:29 pm
Don’t you just hate when that happens? It’s happened to me a few times too. Hard to keep up sometimes.
Puff
Yes one that had his tail chewed off by a red headed bogan rat.
The comedian Dave Hughes is the best example of a male bogan I can think of.
‘Kath and Kim’ was, of course, a documentary about bogans.
C@t:
No self respecting bogan would admit to wearing…. moccasins! Perish the thought.