The New South Wales Teachers Federation has produced the most intriguing set of marginal seat poll numbers of the campaign so far, showing Labor headed for victory in six crucial seats in New South Wales. The polls were conducted on Monday by ReachTEL, and target the same electorates as an earlier round of polling for the union on April 19. Five of the six results record movement to Labor since the earlier poll:
Dobell (Labor 0.2%): A poll of 616 respondents credits Labor’s Emma McBride with a lead of 53-47, up from 51-49 in April. The forced preference primary vote results are Labor 39.6%, Liberal 36.6%, Greens 7.8% and others 16.0%. On previous election preferences, Labor’s lead would be still greater, at 54.7-45.3. Karen McNamara won the Central Coast seat for the Liberals in 2013 by 0.7%, but the redistribution has left it with a notional Labor margin of 0.2%. Polls earlier in the campaign showed very little in it: a ReachTEL poll for the Fairfax papers on June 9 had it at 51-49 to Labor, and a Galaxy poll for the News Corp tabloids on May 11 had it at 50-50.
Lindsay (Liberal 3.0%): Four earlier polls, including two from ReachTEL and two from Newspoll/Galaxy, showed the Liberals leading in the outer western Sydney seat, but the NSWTF’s poll of 610 respondents has Labor’s Emma Husar with a 54-46 lead over Liberal member Fiona Scott. Primary votes are Labor 39.9%, Liberal 34.5%, Greens 3.9% and others 21.6%. On previous election preferences, Husar’s lead is 54.6-45.6. Scott led 53-47 in a Newspoll on June 14, 51-48 in a ReachTEL poll for the Australian Education Union on June 13, 54-46 in a ReachTEL for Fairfax on June 9, and 54-46 in a Galaxy poll for the News Corp tabloids on 54-46.
Macquarie (Liberal 3.3%): The poll of 636 respondents has Labor candidate Susan Templeman with a 54-46 lead over Liberal member Louise Markus in the western Sydney hinterland electorate, from primary votes of Labor 38.9%, Liberal 38.9% and Greens 12.1%. On previous election preferences, Templeman’s two-party lead is 55.0-45.0.
Eden-Monaro (Liberal 2.9%): In a poll of 636 respondents in the famous bellwether electorate in the state’s south-eastern corner, Labor’s Mike Kelly has a commanding lead of 55-45, or 54.0-46.0 on previous election preferences. Primary votes are Liberal 40.4%, Labor 37.5%, Greens 14.8% and others 7.3%. A similar poll for the Australian Education Union on June 18 produced much the same result.
Gilmore (Liberal 3.8%): A poll of 632 respondents in the southern New South Wales seat, which was last held by Labor in 1996, has Labor’s Fiona Phillips leading Liberal member Ann Sudmalis by 53-47. Primary votes are Liberal 39.3%, Labor 37.0% and Greens 12.5%. The result on previous election preferences is much the same (52.7-47.3). A poll by Galaxy for the News Corp tabloids on May 11 had the Liberals ahead 51-49.
Page (Nationals 3.1%): A poll of 647 respondents has Labor’s Janelle Saffin leading 54-46 in the seat she lost to Nationals member Kevin Hogan in 2013, from primary votes of Nationals 39.1%, Labor 36.6% and Greens 15.4%. On previous election preferences, the two-party difference is 53.3-46.7. A ReachTEL poll for the Australian Education Union on June 13 had Saffin leading 52-48.
Elsewhere:
• James Massola of Fairfax offers an account of the state of play based on discussion with “more than a dozen Labor strategists, officials, MPs and campaign workers across every state of Australia on Wednesday – as well as Liberal and National party strategists”. This suggests Labor has 66 seats pencilled in, with a good deal many more not being written off, and a hung parliament being well within the range of possibilities.
• The West Australian reports Labor polling “has picked up substantial swings against the coalition in Burt, Cowan, Swan and in the safe Liberal seat of Pearce, held by Cabinet minister Christian Porter”. Laurie Oakes related on the weekend that Labor had detected a 9% swing in Pearce, where Porter’s margin is 9.3%, and I gave the pot a further stir in a paywalled WA situation report in Crikey yesterday.
• According to Sharri Markson of The Australian, polling for the Nationals confirms the findings of a ReachTEL poll for GetUp! on June 13 in showing independent Rob Oakeshott on over 20% of the primary vote, leaving him “neck and neck” with Nationals member Luke Hartsuyker after preferences.
The Daily TurdBurgler manages to squeeze this inventive gem in between its NRL and Muslim bashing staples
“Unionists, bikies join Labor’s campaign
The Daily Telegraph can reveal members of the Rebels bikie gang and militant construction union the CFMEU have been campaigning for Labor and persuading voters to put the Coalition last.
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The SmearStralian is finally demonstrating why Paul Whittaker was promoted from the Turd to be Editor of the Smear. We have:
– Boats being organised by agents in Australia
– a dump on Tony Windsor
– a dump on Rob Oakeshotte
– a dump on Nick Xenephon
Followed by a Nikki Savva piece saying scare campaigns and negative campaigns don’t work.
I neglected to mention a new Smear target, former golden boy David Lleyonholm cops the Murdoch bucket over including ALP in his preference list.
And a bit more on the Xenephon smear, it is more ‘slum lord’ allegations where his family company has an apartment building where an ofice has been leased as a residential tenancy. This allows the Smear to repeat each and every pre-existing allegation against Xenephon, in their tried and tested rinse and repeat method.
What next from Murdoch, psychotic zombie killer tomatoes support Labor. :>)
For all those doomsayers believing Labor can’t do it, just reflect for a moment on what Labor did do in the last NSW State election.
We were up against a seemingly bullet proof, Teflon-coated, popular as ice cream Premier in Mike Baird AND Labor took back the Central Coast seats, except for the bluest of blue ribbon Liberal seats.
So don’t give up hope and write Labor off yet! Voters aren’t brainwashed and stupid.
OK, off to hand out HTVs. : )
https://www.nswtf.org.au/news/2016/06/22/nsw-marginals-shift-to-parties-backing-Gonski
While the sample sizes are not sufficiently large for the results to be regarded as reliable, they are still interesting. The notable aspects of these polls are a) the high levels of “other” primary voting intention, and b) the very strong flow of preferences from “other” candidates to Labor.
These results support qualitative observations – rejectionist sentiment is registering as an intention to vote against the incumbent party.
Rogue Scholar
Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:00 am
The moron Massalo in the SMH today claims that “Labor officials” believe the ALP is a realistic chance of claiming a total of eight to 10 seats –
Eden-Monaro, Barton, Paterson and Dobell [NSW], Capricornia, Flynn and Dawson [QLD] Burt [WA],Hindmarsh [SA] and Lyons [TAS]
13 seats are quoted as being “in play”
Page-Macarthur-Robertson [NSW], Corangamite-La Trobe [VIC], Longman-Brisbane [QLD], Cowan-Hasluck [WA] Bass-Braddon [TAS] Solomon [NT] and Boothby [SA]
8 are quoted as being “write-offs”.
Macquarie, Lindsay, Reid, Banks, Forde, Petrie, Swan, Pearce
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-labor-to-fall-short-of-victory-as-parties-go-negative-on-medicare-and-boats-20160622-gpp6xs.html#ixzz4CL7NJ5DM
Like I said in my last post this is bollocks information allegedly coming from “Labor officials”. No-one in their right mind, for example, is going to write off Petrie in QLD with a 2PP margin of 0.5 percent. And you don’t spill the beans of the reality you know during an election campaign to anyone.
wow, some encouraging polls in nsw. If qld follows this trend it’s in the bag!
sprocket_ @ #3 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 6:47 am
Hopefully Labor will legislate to require foreign-owned print media units to be sold or liquidated.
rogue scholar @ #7 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:02 am
Massola is an idiot.
Not sure if it is scientific but add all those polled in those seats, it’s over 3,600 a fair sample and all showing a large swing to Labor.
Can’t a solution be worked out for people who will be tortured if they are sent back? This group of Tamils have not paid people smugglers.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/tamils-stranded-in-indonesia-face-probable-torture-if-returned-to-sri-lanka?CMP=share_btn_tw
warrenpeace @ #11 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:06 am
They are interesting. They do appear to show that pro-Gonski campaigning has been seen by voters and has influenced their voting intentions. This conclusion could be tested by comparing survey results from electorates where there’s been no pro-Gonski campaigning. It doesn’t look like such comparative surveys have been done.
Remarkable polling: if accurate, they show a sufficient swing in outer Sydney for a hung parliament to be a near-certainty and an outright Labor majority to be a possibility.
I do get the sense that a majority of swinging voters began the election being inclined towards the Libs, some feeling(like myself) that they were running too left-wing a line, others feeling a residual warmth towards MT (not so much an issue in my case).
But I was reluctantly swayed towards Labor by the simple fact of how lame and uninspiring the Libs have looked during the campaign: they just don’t come across as the sort of people who you feel that comfortable asking to run the country. Maybe a lot of others are now feeling the same way as I do: even if Labor’s high deficits and taxes are possibly going to hurt us personally, at least they look like they have some idea of what they are doing!
The Coalition advert featuring MT as the talent was shown several times during Masterchef last night.
Dull presentation, still insisting the solution is “we have a plan”. Not at all convincing. I thought the Libs were supposed to be the smart ones.
Liberals started an official taskforce to develop the plan to privatise Medicare and put money in the Budget for the taskforce, and made recommendations for how to prepare for the sale.
1. They gave a big consulting firm $5 million to start the sale – and it got expressions of interest in the privatisation of Medicare from big banks, telecommunications companies, and even Northrup Grumman, a multi-national security company. Source: Budget Paper No 2 2014-15, Market testing of the payment of health services by commercial payment service providers
2. They asked the Productivity Commission to do a report on how to privatise service delivery including Medicare and used America as an example. Source: Senate Community Affairs Legislation Committee, 6 May 2016
3. This all comes on top of cuts to our hospitals, a GP Tax by stealth and making people pay for vital medical tests. Source; Productivity Commission Inquiries – Human Services
Lizzie
Liberals are in a state of self delusion claiming they are the smart ones
briefly
Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:06 am
rogue scholar @ #7 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:02 am
Massola is an idiot.
Agreed- Another Laurie Oakes inside whispers wannabe
sprocket_ @ #2 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 6:40 am
lol
Presumably the negative campaigning by News Corpse against these targets will also not work. The hostile invective is largely counter-productive. Mostly, it repels those who are exposed to it. Repelled voters seem to want to express their aversion by voting against the incumbent party.
News Corpse and the Liberal Party, who are using similar tactics when campaigning against Labor, are fanning rejectionist sentiments. They’re very foolish.
meher baba @ #15 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:18 am
mb, you are misreading “swinging voters”. The voters that are preparing to change their intention at this election are not the traditional “swingers” of the past. They are voters who are sick of “politics-as-usual”. They want to vote against the spectacle of inter-party squabbling, self-serving politicians, political deceptions, excuses and trickery, feeble economic results, incompetence and mismanagement. These voters are drawn from a very wide range of demographic groups that cut across the usual boundaries of income, occupation, geography, education, gender, age, ethnicity…and so on.
This election will give expression to a revolt – a perfectly understandable, rational and calculated revolt – against “politics-as-usual.”
Mark Kenny in Dr Jekyll mode very incisive about the marriage equality options:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016-opinion/election-2016-the-samesex-marriage-question-malcolm-turnbull-must-now-answer-20160622-gpphuj.html
Very powerful finish to the comment piece:
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briefly
Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:27 am
News Corpse and the Liberal Party, who are using similar tactics when campaigning against Labor, are fanning rejectionist sentiments. They’re very foolish.
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Are Labor doing the same thing by running anti Xenephon ads in SA ? I ‘m not sure the benefits outweigh the risk of providing rejectionist sentiments as you call it toward Labor as well as the incumbent.
From the previous thread.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Massola writes off Shorten’s chance of a victory.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-labor-to-fall-short-of-victory-as-parties-go-negative-on-medicare-and-boats-20160622-gpp6xs.html
Now Abbott says he’s “keen to serve”. Struggling with his mortgage payments?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/im-keen-to-serve-tony-abbott-urges-supporters-not-to-punish-malcolm-turnbull-for-leadership-spill-20160622-gppovc.html
No. we don’t need a Royal Commission into banking do we?
http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/cba-staff-pressured-to-push-products-says-finance-sector-union-20160622-gpp9sk.html
Mark Kenny writes about the SSM questions Turnbull must now answer.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016-opinion/election-2016-the-samesex-marriage-question-malcolm-turnbull-must-now-answer-20160622-gpphuj.html
Michael Gordon says it’s lies at 20 paces because both sides think it’s perilously close.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016-opinion/election-2016-lies-at-20-paces-as-marathon-campaign-approaches-rock-bottom-20160622-gppe1o.html
Will Mike Quigley’s detailed excoriation of the Coalition’s mess of the NBN provide the basis for the discussion we need to have? It certainly does require dispassionate examination.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/shortsighted-expensive-and-backward-looking-exnbn-boss-blasts-turnbulls-plan-20160622-gpozid.html
This is a piece that Quigley has written for The Conversation.
https://theconversation.com/the-need-for-speed-theres-still-time-to-fix-australias-nbn-61288
Why voters are angry about Australia’s internet.
http://thenewdaily.com.au/life/2016/06/22/australia-internet-cost/
More horrible revelations about the ADF at yesterday’s Royal Commission hearing.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/adf-abuse-victim-told-injuries-sustained-through-rape-just-anxiety-20160622-gppm7f.html
There are still fears that 7-Eleven workers will not get their compensation.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/business/workplace-relations/fears-7eleven-workers-could-be-left-in-the-cold-if-franchises-declare-bankruptcy-to-avoid-fines-and-repayments-20160622-gpp3tk.html
Semantic quibble: a “brace” is a pair.
Section 2 . . .
Barnaby Joyce goes out of his tree at the NPC. Again!
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/federal-election-2016-thats-the-end-of-australia-barnaby-joyce-lashes-independents-20160622-gpp6c4.html
Baird is now attempting to significantly change the terms of employment for state public servants.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/government-regulation-will-terminate-redundancy-entitlements-of-public-servants-20160621-gpoc0z.html
Got problems with Medibank Private? Then don’t bother going to the Private Insurance Ombudsman.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/private-health-insurance-ombudsman-turned-aggrieved-customers-back-to-medibank-20160622-gpovtk.html
Peter Martin looks at who is Medicare’s best friend and concludes that it is certainly not the Coalition.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/election-2016-whos-keenest-on-medicare-examine-bulkbilling-20160621-gpoqze.html
This international law academic sings the government’s failures on human rights issues.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/human-rights-failures-say-a-lot-about-our-government-20160622-gpozn6.html
Yet more trouble for Woolworths’ superb management team.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace-relations/woolworths-cleaning-contractors-face-underpayment-case-20160622-gpp9sf.html
Meanwhile Coles is testing “dark stores” that have no customers – just online warehousing and distibution.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/retail/dark-stores-coles-trials-shops-with-no-customers-20160622-gpowau.html
The boss of Target says he really means business. It will interesting to watch as things unfold over the next 12 months.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/retail/hm-zara-uniqlo-will-regret-coming-down-under-warns-target-boss-20160622-gppb9e.html
Michelle Grattan on Labor now moving on to the privatisation of the vaccination register.
https://theconversation.com/labor-moves-its-scare-campaign-onto-vaccination-register-61467
This study confirms the dramatic effect that Howard’s gun laws have had on mass shootings in Australia.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/australias-gun-laws-stopped-mass-shootings-and-reduced-homicides-study-finds
Section 3 . . .
Gareth Hutchens says that Morrison is losing the negative gearing modelling war.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/22/scott-morrison-is-losing-his-negative-gearing-modelling-war
Moodys has examined Trumponomics and reaches a scary conclusion. It’s scary!
http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/trumponomics-is-scarier-when-you-actually-study-it-moodys-shows-20160621-gpot9u.html
Morrison is so out of touch with LGBTQI issues.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/scott-morrison-out-of-touch-with-lgbtqi-issues-20160622-gppa34.html
Eight times Morrison heroically overcame bigotry.
https://newmatilda.com/2016/06/22/eight-time-scott-morrison-heroically-overcame-bigotry/
“View from the Street” does a good lob on Morrison.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/view-from-the-street/view-from-the-street-the-passion-of-the-treasurer-20160622-gppbdz.html
The Guardian tracked the response to Morrison’s comments.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/22/campaign-catchup-scomo-suffers-for-his-views
Cuts to legal services will cause deep community hurt. This is a real sleeper issue.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/cuts-to-legal-services-will-hurt-the-social-fabric-20160622-gpp26d.html
The SMH editorial says that if Brexit wins then it will represent a victory for hatred.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/hate-wins-if-brexit-prevails-20160622-gpownj.html
This report says that far right wing loners kill more than Islamic extremists.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/22/rightwing-lone-wolves-islamist-extremists-report-thinktank-rusi
If this is only half true it represents a terrible customer relations handling by Ford.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/ford-australia-faces-class-action-seeking-refunds-on-70000-allegedly-dodgy-cars/news-story/9c13807fa3d6ca104acfb79882a6c5c5
Section 4 . . . Cartoon Corner
Alan Moir on Turnbull’s current position.
David Pope gets to the core of the Coalition’s ideas about Medicare.
David Rowe and some political group therapy.
Mongolias’ Internet twice as fast as ours …
http://thenewdaily.com.au/life/2016/06/22/australia-internet-cost/
FFS
The Reachtel poll done in Eden-Monaro mentioned by William should send a a wave of terror through the LNP. The share of the “other” prefs going to Labor is shown as 78%. This does not include the G vote. This is obviously heightened by the quality of the Labor candidate. But even so, if shifts of this magnitude are repeated on 2 July they will destroy the LNP.
Bloody Potatohead is on Sky News sprouting boats and saying that if Shorten is elected he won’t be able to contain the left wing of his divided party.
What a laugh!
rogue scholar @ #23 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:38 am
I just don’t know the answer to that.
bk @ #31 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:41 am
What are the odds that a G will pop up today and campaign against Labor on boats as well!
BK
Potatohead lives in a fantasy world, projecting the problems of the Coalition on to Labor.
Briefly
In 3 yrs the other guy only got a mention because his Queanbeyan house was the venue for the final “let’s knife Tones” meeting. Other than that invisible and ineffectual.
That the voters in Eden Monaro have decided to do a ‘roll-back’ is not too surprising.
Kelly is a good thing.
Would anyone skilled in interpreting body language like to tell me just what Mal intended to project here, but what his real message was?
(Picture from Facebook ‘debate’)
What are the odds that a G will pop up today and campaign against Labor on boats as well!
Na, the Greens will only complain about the boats if they can ‘prove’ the boats are not made of ‘sustainable’ wood.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/21/offshore-detention-whistleblower-loses-job-after-condemning-atrocity-of-camps
Dutton campaigns for Labor without intending to. He is woefully bad. He’s been kept out of sight for a few weeks. They must be desperate for something/anything with which to stem the loss of support. The Libs may have decided that Turnbot cannot work this issue. There’s no other explanation for using with Dutton. He just cannot help insulting the intelligence of every voter, not least because he himself comes across as a half wit.
Voters will see Dutton, remember Abbott and want to scream.
Lizzie
That he was bored as bat shit with telling the public that he was ‘right’ (proof: ‘cos I said so).
Just on political advertising generally.
All successful political advertising resonates with feelings, vibes, senses, views that the target audience already has. Someone earlier mentioned the Howard placard that reinforced the fundamental view that deciding who will live in a nation is a fundamental act of sovereignty of the nation. And Howard was the person who would ensure that sovereignty was exercised.
People think that you can convince people of crap by repeating it often enough when alternative information is readily available. They think that Abbott proved that in 2013. I’ve always maintained that Abbott’s hysteria (except over the fundamental sovereignty issue of boats) did nothing for his side and it was all Labor dysfunction. I believe that stronger than ever.
That’s why Medicare is biting. That’s why the Coalition have suddenly discovered that on-water matters can be widely reported in the second-last week of the election campaign. And that’s why the Coalition claim that it is the party to deliver strong and stable government, after dumping a new Prime Minister and crab walking away from a huge range of positions is totally dissonant.
People may crave strong and stable government and focus group after focus group may confirm that, but whoever in Liberal advertising world thinks that the current Turnbull coalition and strong and stable government have even the remotest connection is out of their tree.
It may well be, of course, that a government that has done almost nothing that can be remembered, other than claim to have stopped the boats (genuine big deal) and axed the tax (meh), has nothing else to campaign on.
Which is why I’m regaining my confidence that Labor will win solidly. The proliferation of NXT and the Greens in certain seats, and more independents, has certainly thrown into greater doubt whether Labor can get a majority. But I’m firmly of the view that the Coalition has lost its majority and, therefore, power.
It will only be a matter of time before Labor governs in its own right. It can form minority government on its own terms – which means making no deals (even informal ones) with the Greens – after the Coalition falls over. Or the GG can take the nation back to the polls. Remember that most newly elected cross-benchers will be reluctant to go back to the polls and lose the job they just got. That includes the Greens. They would be prepared to support whichever major party looks more likely to last the distance, even if they get nothing substantive as a trade-off, as long as the major party concerned had enough policy in common. That means Greens necessarily supporting Labor and NXT being able to go either way (ditto Windsor, Oakeshott and McGowan).
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/party-games-its-the-final-countdown/news-story/2a8231b9fe68effe564d14c157c808d0
Morning all
First up on the ABC radio news, is that Turnbull will be campaigning with SHenderson in Corangamite. He will be meeting with angry CFA volunteers today.
Faine who starts his show at 8.30 gave an overview of politics to be discussed. He said the liberals and Herald Sun are going hard on the CFA stuff and Turnbull is taking advantage of same
Listening to PBS broadcast on Brixt, a simplification of voters
The older you are
If you vote Conservative
If you are less educated
If you live out of London
The more likely you vote to leave
Good luck to them & Howard’s / Abbotts battlers here
I take it ReachTel questions were asked in the order they are published. The right question was asked first – primary voting intention. That way considerations of education or Gonski weren’t being primed in the minds of respondents before being asked how they’ll vote. So, they only caveat is sample size.
TPOF
You remind me that Abbott developed the habit, when asked what his financial policies had achieved, of repeating “we stopped the boats”. Good for a laugh but not much good for Oz.
I should add that he said that the Vic State Labor govt have dropped the ball on this. Not sure why he says that. This dispute had been going on since before this govt was elected. The dispute had gone before FWA in Nov and April. In May the report into the CFA Fiskville training facility was brought down. The CFA were found to have failed their members as the knowingly continued training them on this toxic site.
Turnbull is picking up this issue to basically beat Labor around the head for backing the firies union. You know unions bad!!
victoria @ #43 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:59 am
Andrews needs to get out and call the astroturfing campaign for what it is. The evidence is there that the CFA website is registered to the Liberal Party As Victorian Premier he will be reported widely. I think this whole issue could be turned to Labor’s advantage if CFA volunteers start to realise how their concerns and commitments are being manipulated for really sleazy political advantage by the Federal Liberals.
lizzie @ #46 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 8:03 am
And it certainly was not good enough to save him from being unceremoniously dumped as PM in record time after winning government for his party.
lizzie @ #36 Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 7:52 am
I’m no expert…looks like he’s unintentionally making himself appear to be “larger ” than he actually is. He does not want to sit, I’d say, but would prefer to be on his feet, able to move and to project his reach and voice. He is reacting against being confined to a chair so his expression and posture are exaggerated.