A ReachTEL poll, which I presume to have been broadcast on the 6pm Seven News, shows the Coalition with a two-party lead of 54-46, down from 55-45 at the last such poll three weeks ago. Malcolm Turnbull holds a 75-25 on a preferred prime minister question that allows no option for undecided, partly reversing a blowout to 81-19 that raised eyebrows in the previous poll. The poll also finds a remarkably even spread of opinion on Barnaby Joyce as Deputy Prime Minister, with 32% expecting him to be very good or good, 34% expecting him to be average, and 34% expecting him to be poor or very poor. More to follow.
UPDATE: Full results on the ReachTEL site here. The primary votes are 48.1% for the Coalition (down 0.4%), 32.8% for Labor (up 1.0%) and 10.1% for the Greens (down 0.7%). The personal ratings find Malcolm Turnbull taking a solid hit, with his net approval rating of plus 15.3% comparing with results of between plus 31.5% and plus 41.4% in ReachTEL’s three previous polls on his watch.
Jack A Randa@1099
I wanted to know how it was done so I could ensure I never did it. 😀
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rnafternoons/victorian-high-school-teaching-a-new-way/6353574
Nicholas@1102
Timetabling must be a nightmare.
One of the things about entering the workforce is that you have to learn disciplines like punctuality. Seems those students are getting a go free pass on accepting and sticking to a schedule. They will be ill served.
[ And of course the village idiot has been chiming in a bit with his low rent trolling which I am ignoring. ]
Don’t worry, Old Infallible. I know you read my stuff. Your ego would simply not allow you to to do otherwise.
don @1064
As you’ve apparently never suffered through the hell that Douglas and Milko described of lying awake in bed through the wee hours of the morning trying and failing to fall asleep and becoming gradually more anxious as each hour tick away and with it, you realise, each hour of sleep you will be guaranteed that night, all I can say is that I truly envy you.
Maybe, just maybe, people are all different, and there are always exceptions to the rule. It is super that you were able to fall asleep at a reasonable hour throughout you’re teenage is, really, you should be very proud of yourself, but its not not exactly an enormous help to those who go day after day forcing themselves awake at 7am, spending the day in a semi-daze, ensuring they don’t have any midday naps because, hey, it kind of defeats the purpose of suffering through this if its not going to affect some sort of change on your sleeping patterned, and then explicably becoming as alert and awake as a coke-head at around 9pm.
bemused @1067
Yes, that is my experience, too. The witching hour is when my brain apparently really wants to get it all its heavy thinking done.
I’m very hesitent to ever use sleeping pills or any other such aids, since moderation, er, isn’t exactly my strongest area, and I know that if I start relying on them, I will never be able to get to sleep without them.
[Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has reignited criticism of his government’s same-sex marriage policy after posting on social media to celebrate Valentine’s Day.
Mr Turnbull, who supports the reform of marriage, posted a photo of himself and his wife Lucy, a businesswoman and former lord mayor of Sydney.
The Prime Minister wrote: “When I first asked Lucy to marry me, she said, ‘Let’s wait until we grow up.’ Well we didn’t wait long and now it is almost impossible to imagine, let alone remember, what it was like not to be together, so much so that I have a much clearer sense of ‘Lucy and me’ than I do of ‘me’.”]
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbulls-valentines-day-message-stirs-gay-marriage-row-20160214-gmto0y.html?
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Ctari,
Sorry, ~ means around. You are not ignorant – it is jargon, and actually a bastardisation of a maths symbol and I should not have used it in this context.
Together with that and my repetition of about 50 posts, I think Poll Bludger is telling me to get back to work 🙂
JW
[ I can’t remember who it was, but someone here admitted that they had a very special little heart flutter at the thought of Malcolm Turnbull PM. I wonder if they are still feeling it 🙂 Anyone recall who it was? ]
I thought it was Mod Lib. But I have lost track of the name they are currently posting under.
Obama on Scalia’s passing.
https://www.facebook.com/WhiteHouse/videos/vb.63811549237/10154102440024238/?type=2&theater
[ bemused@1103
Timetabling must be a nightmare.
]
Indeed.
But this is interesting from the website:
[ Attendance at Templestowe College is markedly up since the new system was introduced.
Moreover, despite expectations, students have overwhelmingly chosen to arrive during the earlier start times. ]
I guess they didn’t read the research Zoom mentioned that says they should be starting later.
Sohar 1050
[Apologists of Malcolm and his government seem a bit thin on this blog these days. Not a good sign in Malcolm’s election year. He doesn’t seem to have a natural supporter base – unlike Howard and Abbott.]
That’s why I’m looking forward to the campaign, people don’t generally go into bat for him.
The closest thing he has to a supporter base are people who hate Bill Shorten going “look at the polls”.
d&m
[Sorry]
Ta.
No need to be sorry.
Every day is a learning experience for me.
bemused
[One of the things about entering the workforce is that you have to learn disciplines like punctuality]
They’ll still have to be punctual, just punctual at a different time.
The research (interesting stuff, that is – you should try reading some) says that adolescents grow out of these sleeping patterns in their twenties. Given that I was discussing VCE students, most of these (we hope) are heading off to further education and won’t enter the workforce until they reach that age.
Asha Leu@1105
I really do recommend melatonin.
Only available on prescription here and rather expensive. I buy it on eBay from the US. 2mg tabs which I usually cut in half.
Not habit forming, but I am told for some people they become less and less effective.
This hasn’t happened to me, but I only use when I have to and my dose is low. I seem to be responsive to a low dose of any medication so you may need more.
Re Don’s story, he may have been indulging in a bit of leg pulling, but OTOH, some country kids do such things and it is not beyond the bounds of possibility.
In summer, by the time I got to school, I had swum about 4Km in training.
JW
[ I thought it was Mod Lib. But I have lost track of the name they are currently posting under. ]
Ah! I see confessions (@ 1070) thinks it was alias, not Mod Lib. That is probably correct.
First people will start to dislike Malcolm Turnbull then, after a lag, they will start looking at Shorten and say “he’s not as bad as I thought”.
For such a ‘smart lawyer’ multi-millionaire , Turnbull is pretty dumb.
don@1110
😆
Shame about that. Maybe they also had a life after school, like music lessons, sport, or a part-time job.
And maybe they just slept through classes. 👿
p1
[Ah! I see confessions (@ 1070) thinks it was alias, not Mod Lib. )
Maybe it was Malcolm posting under an ‘alias’. A conundrum. 😀
Question @ 1111,
I had thought of that. Malcolm’s most loyal following here comes from ‘Labor supporters’. I can’t mention any names, though.
K17:
I think people will start to feel let down by Turnbull rather than dislike him. He won’t live up to people’s expectations is my prediction.
don
people don’t always make the best choices – particularly adolescents! (My ideal school wasn’t giving them the option…)
bemused @1103
[One of the things about entering the workforce is that you have to learn disciplines like punctuality. Seems those students are getting a go free pass on accepting and sticking to a schedule. They will be ill served.]
That’s certainly true, however I’d argue that it would nly really effect those who enter the work-force straight after high school. Anyone who goes to University is going to have 3-4 years (or more) of classes scattered intermittently all through the day and night (most that arn’t compulsory to attend), combined with similarly irrigular shifts at casual/part-time jobs, before they return to the Mon-Fri, 9-5 routine. Additionally, the typical 9-5 schedule is tending towards becoming less common in a number of careers, anyway.
In any case, adapting to the rigures of full-time employment for the first time is always going to be a shock to the system. Kids that are used to a 9-3 school timetable will be more accustomed to waking up early, sure, but you can coast through the school day in a way that you can’t in an actual job, not the mention things like the longer lunchbreaks, the amount of time spent, say, just listening (or not) to the teacher or sitting quietly and working on assignments (or not) as opposed to a constant stream of tasks that must be completed ASAP, and having your parents to get you out of bed and force you on your way to the bus stop and/or school. I’m not sure there really is a way to fully prepare newcomers to the workforce – its just something you have to adjust to once you are there.
‘fess
[I think people will start to feel let down by Turnbull rather than dislike him.]
Yes. Just rated as ineffectual after raising ‘great expectations.
bemused
What rubbish
I post on the worst case scenarios because that is what is interesting.
I think it might be a bit whachy to post
“there will be no epidemic today or no WWIII today”. obvi-bloody-iously I post worst case scenarios, because they are the ones that are worth noting or commenting on.
It is the same reason that it is not much use posting “oh the libs are aweful” posts here – 95% of posters are fully aware of this so it is pretty stupid to post this stuff unless it is especially horrendous or is very topical.
So yes it is worth posing about Syria when there are major changes, especially if they raise the risk of war up even a small notch – 1-2%. The last 4.5 months has seen major events that are of significance -even to us in Australia.
I posted here in response to Simon re the rapid gains made by the Assad forces over the last 4 weeks. Three days ago it looked as if between the Kurds and the Russians the Isis/Saudi/Turkey/USA? forces would be pushed right back to the borders such that within a few months Assad would be in control of the whole country again, probably with a major autonomous Kurdish sector. this was interesting but not threatening to us.
This morning I woke to find that the Turks were making good on threats and where shelling Kurdish areas and POSSIBLY some Assad ie government areas. This is like it or not a potential flashpoint, which under worse case scenarios could lead to WWIII.
Now happily I think both Obama and Putin are sane, so I am assuming this will be avoided – for NOW. But what about next year? Trump, Cruze and even Clinto are war mongers.
zoomster
[ The research (interesting stuff, that is – you should try reading some) says that adolescents grow out of these sleeping patterns in their twenties. ]
The essence of a lot of the research (which some here have obviously not bothered to read) is that the body clock goes naturally haywire around puberty, and that the body must be taught to adapt again.
From http://sleepcenter.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=63
[ One change in the body during puberty is closely related to how you sleep. There is a shift in the timing of your circadian rhythms. Before puberty, your body makes you sleepy around 8:00 or 9:00 pm. When puberty begins, this rhythm shifts a couple hours later. Now, your body tells you to go to sleep around 10:00 or 11:00 pm.
The natural shift in a teen’s circadian rhythms is called “sleep phase delay.” The need to sleep is delayed for about two hours. At first, teens may appear to be suffering from insomnia. They will have a hard time falling asleep at the usual time. While they begin going to sleep later, they still need an average of nine hours of sleep at night. Because most teens have to wake up early for school, it is important for them to go to bed on time. If they go to bed late, they will be unable to get the sleep that they need. This change is a normal part of growing up. With some extra care, teens will quickly adjust to the new sleep schedule of their bodies. ]
The real problem of course is that this occurs around puberty – which is often when kids are in their most important years of education and social development. Also, for some kids it may be a fairly quick adjustment, but for others it may take a lot longer – especially if it goes unrecognized.
Imagine the impact of years of sleep deprivation, just when your educational and social development is at its most critical phase?
I think we can see just from a couple of the posters here on PB how bad the consequences of this can be.
Given the variation between people, we should be aiming for a system that is capable of producing and running a course specialised to each individual.
Then we can skip this whole contest between anecdotes ;).
daretotread@1125
Agree on the repetitive “oh the Libs are awful” posts with no original thought in them.
The Russians and Iranians will not let Assad be beaten. To them, the enemy is ALL of Assad’s enemies. So surprise, surprise, they attack them.
Turkey doesn’t like the Kurds due largely to PKK activities in Turkey. So, surprise again, they lob a few shells across the border into Kurdish areas.
The Turks also don’t like Assad so are not likely to attack his other opponents.
And so on. It is a complicated mess and a political solution is eventually required. There will be no WWIII.
If you look at the Russian activities elsewhere, Crimea was really just unfinished business that should have been sorted when the Soviet Union broke up. The Ukranian Kruschev gave Crimea, which had long been Russian and has a predominantly Russian population, to Ukraine. That is now resolved.
Ukraine is just a mess with various gangs of crooks competing to run the place.
Russia thought it had a deal with NATO to keep Ukraine as a buffer between them but the West seemed to be reneging. So another surprise, Russia supported Russian speaking separatists in the west. That now appears to be calming down.
So where is your WWIII coming from?
DisplayName@1127
Gee, I would love to see this applied to institutions such as the military. 😐
SOHAR – In our capitalist system, greed is more important than talent – and Turnbull is psychotically greedy. I’ve never understood the idea that he’s “bright”. He’s spent all of his life as a protege, attaching himself to smarter people, and bullshitting his way through. Now he’s being caught out.
[Question @ 1111,
I had thought of that. Malcolm’s most loyal following here comes from ‘Labor supporters’. I can’t mention any names, though.]
Some of us expressed our doubts, even before he became PM, that he would have the passion or ability to be the paragon of a progressive PM people believed he would be.
How wrong were we, how right is david.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/statistics-could-do-more-for-your-sex-life-than-female-viagra/?ex_cid=538fb
DTT
I understand what you are saying in this post but am intrigued by
[I think it might be a bit whachy to post]
I guess ‘whachy’ has substituted itself for a ‘boring’ equivalent but can’t work out what the word was!
The person who must be feeling most stupid (I hope) is Elizabeth Farrelly. She obviously thought Malcolm was God because he winked at her over a canape once.
I want it known I was calling Turnbull a turd long before it was fashionable!
K-1-7 @ 1130,
Agreed. Turnbull is a lowlife who is way out of his depth.
Even worse than the Malcolm worship (and there was a bit of that here) one poster thought Brough was impressive.
Fortunately for them, I can’t remember who it was.
[ KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 3:33 pm | Permalink
SOHAR – In our capitalist system, greed is more important than talent – and Turnbull is psychotically greedy. I’ve never understood the idea that he’s “bright”. He’s spent all of his life as a protege, attaching himself to smarter people, and bullshitting his way through. Now he’s being caught out.
]
He has a Gordon Gekko mentality – “Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures, the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge of mankind and greed.”
…. and from the pages of CRIKEY itself over the cat ‘issue’
– Apparently (Diamond) Jim McClelland, Fiona’s step-father was disturbed by her story about the cat. He said of Turnbull:
He’s a turd. He’s easy to loathe, he’s a sh-t, he’d devour anyone for breakfast, he’s on the make, he’s cynical, he’s offensively smug.
What on earth would have given him that notion?
Love’s letter lost: Malcolm Turnbull’s dead cat scrawl unearthed
http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/06/18/loves-letter-lost-malcolm-turnbulls-dead-cat-scrawl-unearthed/
K-17 @ 1130,
‘ In our capitalist system, greed is more important than talent – and Turnbull is psychotically greedy. I’ve never understood the idea that he’s “bright”. He’s spent all of his life as a protege, attaching himself to smarter people, and bullshitting his way through. Now he’s being caught out.’
Perceptive comment. So good I posted it again!
Turnbull basking in their reflected auras, basically. 🙂
Which seems to say that if that is his schtick then he mustn’t have much talent around him in the Coalition!
I wouldn’t describe him as a lowlife.
He’s a natural born ‘marketing’ type. Ever looking for a new job that’s onwards and upwards. So very annoying to anyone who has had to work with him because any time invested in him is wasted.
The second PM in the decade like this.
PD – It’s not just the cat. Justice Hunt accused him of “poisoning the fountain of justice…” And now he’s PM!
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/16/1065917548326.html?from=storyrhs
CTar1
[I wouldn’t describe him as a lowlife.]
Nor would I are some of you drinking?
Someone on Insiders this morning said that Turnbull’s spin on his Ministry changes showed he could sell ice to the Eskimos – when obviously everyone, including the commentator, had seen through the spin.
Some are still desperately trying to portray him as a salesperson, when he obviously isn’t.
[ Gee, I would love to see this applied to institutions such as the military. ]
Agreed. This is the most intelligent thing you’ve said today. We might end up with less wars, massacres and other military atrocities.
MTBW – Turnbull is someone who basically grabs everything he can for himself. Like most merchant bankers, he never saw a conflict of interest he wasn’t interested in. That’s how they make money. The mere fact that he is blowing $56 billion of your and my money on 100 year old technology and stuffing our futures because his political career is more important definitely makes him a low-life. Could you point out any redeeming features?
MTBW
A occasional full stop would help.
I always have to read you twice!
zoomster
Turnbull gets his reputation from two things. The Spycatcher case and Ozemail investment.
Thats it.
As for him being a great salesperson he could very well be. However to be a salesperson you have to have a product to sell. You can put pollywaffle wrapper on a turd its still a turd and people are going to know that.
No salesperson can sell that. So Turnbull could be a genius sales person, but we will never know because unlike other political parties the LNP have nothing to sell
I wouldn’t denigrate Malcolm’s intelligence – I think he has plenty. But whoever expected him to be a “paragon of a progressive PM” must have been ignoring the fact that he was elected as a “Liberal” and has to maintain the confidence of his party and at least the minimal and grudging support of its partner party the Rural Trogs. Even “plenty” of intelligence may not be enough to negotiate his way through the swamps, landmines and sandtraps of the Coal-Mining-ition. I still think that maybe he’s smart enough to manoeuvre a few mildly-progressive measures like SSM through, eventually. But paragon of progressiveness – never! You simply don’t expect that from the self-named Liberals, ever – that’s why we have the ALP and Greens. (And please don’t start up the ALP vs Greens war now I’ve said that.)
I don’t think ‘lowlife’ is fair, either. Arrogant, smug, ambitious?
I suspect, as in many influential partnerships, that Lucy is the stronger character and he relies on her. (Caveat: I’ve never met either of them.)
No, Turnbull isn’t a lowlife. He’s many things, but lowlife isn’t one of them.