A ReachTEL poll, which I presume to have been broadcast on the 6pm Seven News, shows the Coalition with a two-party lead of 54-46, down from 55-45 at the last such poll three weeks ago. Malcolm Turnbull holds a 75-25 on a preferred prime minister question that allows no option for undecided, partly reversing a blowout to 81-19 that raised eyebrows in the previous poll. The poll also finds a remarkably even spread of opinion on Barnaby Joyce as Deputy Prime Minister, with 32% expecting him to be very good or good, 34% expecting him to be average, and 34% expecting him to be poor or very poor. More to follow.
UPDATE: Full results on the ReachTEL site here. The primary votes are 48.1% for the Coalition (down 0.4%), 32.8% for Labor (up 1.0%) and 10.1% for the Greens (down 0.7%). The personal ratings find Malcolm Turnbull taking a solid hit, with his net approval rating of plus 15.3% comparing with results of between plus 31.5% and plus 41.4% in ReachTEL’s three previous polls on his watch.
I recall being forced to study French, a language I saw not menaingfull use to learn.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/labor-conference-foley-promises-big-changes-to-education-if-elected/news-story/36b0d28a32e3a907433fe5f852c1404f
zoomster@1045
I don’t recall saying all the references were anecdotal. Provide a reference or withdraw.
Certainly there were plenty of anecdotes here.
Yes, Carey Moore was quite funny and I enjoyed it.
And of course the village idiot has been chiming in a bit with his low rent trolling which I am ignoring.
Carey Moore @1047
But what are people supposed to do if the King of England tries to barrack soldiers in their homes? What then, huh?
The comments on that Facebook post of Turnbull’s I posted earlier are getting stuck into him about SSM.
https://www.facebook.com/malcolmturnbull/photos/a.121419221578.123742.53772921578/10154006476211579/?type=3&theater
No move to remove Bill
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiMoPecnPbKAhXIkZQKHXT6BREQFggqMAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Ffederal-politics%2Fpolitical-news%2Flabor-mps-nervous-about-shorten-and-alp-election-prospects-20160212-gmt6jw.html&usg=AFQjCNGFy_orPsdGob3I55n5BIuFGI58Xw
Asha Leu@1053
The well regulated militia, AKA National Guard, will resist. 😛
SUSC, 1051
The act of learning another language stimulates your brain and makes it more nimble (and then makes it easier to learn other languages if you so desire etc). So even though you didn’t find French in itself that interesting or helpful, it’s probably helped you in ways you might not have realised.
Trump is wedging the GOP
JoyAnnReid: Trump: “I lost hundreds of friends. The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush. He kept us safe?”#GOPDebate
This is torture and kidnapping by our goverment:
http://m.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/nauru-baby-being-kept-by-brisbane-hospital-20160212-gmt3dg
Shame that only a hospital would defend babies. Sad country we have become.
So Scalia was found dead in a luxury resort? Is there any hope of finding that he was with someone he shouldn’t have been with (a la Billie M Snedden) or is that just wishful thinking?
Douglas and Milko @1046
[My body remains steadfastly unconcerned about sunlight. my favourite time to go to sleep is around 3am, and I like to wake up a bit after 9am. then I am clear headed and productive all day.]
I’m pretty similar, although I’ve managed to train myself (with mixed success) to generally get to sleep by 1am at the latest. For some bizarre reason, however, waking up around 9am (which seems the ideal time, given when I usually hit the hay) has proved a nearimpossibility for me – either I drag myself out of bed at around 6 or 7am or I’ll inevitably sleep in until 11am or so (and the later I sleep in, the harder it becomes to get up).
But regardless of when I wake up, sometime after 8pm tends to be when I become the most awake and alert, which probably has a lot to do with working night shift for so many years. Even now, when I’m usually do a a higher proportion of 9-5(ish) shifts than ones that have me getting home past 11pm, the prospect of going to bed before midnight just feels utterly alien to my body, no matter how early I got up that morning or how early I’ll have to the next.
SOHAR – I’ve been missing Alias’ bromance with Malcolm.
JACK – It appears that Scalia was more interested in blasting poor innocent quail out of the sky than sex – more’s the pity.
zoomster@935
Things must have changed.
As a teenager I got up around 6 am to make my father’s lunch and pack it, then got ready for school. I cycled to school, about five or six kilometres away, nothing to a teenager, sat in classes and was totally absorbed and thrilled by the stuff I was learning, I had wonderful teachers.
I cycled home, got into my uniform, cycled a couple of km, and worked from 4.30 to 6.00 at a service station pumping gas. Got home around 6.15, had dinner (my aunt cooked our evening meal at that time) washed up, and hit the books around 7.00.
I knocked off around 10.30 or 11.00 pm, and went to bed. Rinse and repeat.
At the weekends I worked from 7 till 1 pm at the servo, came home, went to a friend’s place, did chemistry experiments with him a lot of the time, then came home and hit the books, slept in on Sunday, then hit the books.
I loved every minute of it. I was learning a lot, my goal then and now in life, and had no trouble either staying awake at school or going to sleep at night.
This business of teenagers having different cycles of sleep is self indulgent bullshit.
I seem to be constitutionally incapable of sleeping past 7:00AM, no matter how late I retire.
I can’t remember who it was, but someone here admitted that they had a very special little heart flutter at the thought of Malcolm Turnbull PM. I wonder if they are still feeling it 🙂 Anyone recall who it was?
Asha Leu@1061
I often have trouble getting to sleep as unwelcome thoughts race through my head. One is listening to the radio – a program that is interesting enough to displace the unwelcome thoughts but not so interesting that it keeps me awake. The second, if I can foresee sever problems getting to sleep, is a small dose of melatonin (1mg) a couple of hours before going to bed.
Of course the regular sleeping tablets like Temazapan will also work, but I avoid them as they are habit forming.
[ Strong UnionsStrongCountry@1051I recall being forced to study French, a language I saw not menaingfull use to learn. ]
Nor english either, obviously.
I did four years of French, and have found it invaluable, not only for travelling in France, but for translation of French archaeology papers for my website.
You never know when something you have learnt is going to be essential.
Wake up and live. Don’t feel sorry for learning ‘useless’ information, it is the best kind.
I can think of nothing I have learned that has not proven to be of value at some point. I just wish I had been able (timetable constraints precluded it) to continue with Latin in years 11 and 12.
zoidlord @ 1059
Absolutely agree! Shame on them!
JW:
It was alias.
don@1064
Hehehe … yep! Amazing how some fall for it.
When I was at school my experiences somewhat paralleled yours except I was heavily into sports training (swimming) and my part-time work was restricted to the weekend.
Thanks confessions 🙂
Over to you Alias….is the heart still fluttering for Malcolm?
Jolyon Wagg@1066
Mad Lib? aka Happiness aka Everything… etc.
Bemused@943
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ReachTEL offers another increment of evidence for a slight loss of honeymoon gloss for the Malcolm Turnbull prime ministership.
A ReachTEL poll, which I presume to have been broadcast on the 6pm Seven News, shows the Coalition with a two-party lead of 54-46, down from 55-45 at the last such poll three weeks ago. Malcolm Turnbull holds a 75-25 on a preferred prime minister question that allows no option for undecided, partly reversing a blowout to 81-19 that raised eyebrows in the previous poll. The poll also finds a remarkably even spread of opinion on Barnaby Joyce as Deputy Prime Minister, with 32% expecting him to be very good or good, 34% expecting him to be average, and 34% expecting him to be poor or very poor. More to follow.
UPDATE: Full results on the ReachTEL site here. The primary votes are 48.1% for the Coalition (down 0.4%), 32.8% for Labor (up 1.0%) and 10.1% for the Greens (down 0.7%). The personal ratings find Malcolm Turnbull taking a solid hit, with his net approval rating of plus 15.3% comparing with results of between plus 31.5% and plus 41.4% in ReachTEL’s three previous polls on his watch.
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bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:03 am | Permalink
zoomster@891
bemused
yes, melatonin plays a part, and it is the adolescents’ melatonin levels which affect their sleep patterns.
The answer isn’t to artificially alter the amount of melatonin so that adolescents conform to an acceptable pattern.
And I repeat: I was talking about an ideal education system. It isn’t necessarily one which can be adopted – although altering school times to better suit the needs of adolescents is certainly possible, particularly where there are separate senior campuses.
Light has a big influence on when melatonin is released. Exposure to light until late in the night will disrupt this natural pattern.
I find a small dose of melatonin is as effective as a sleeping tablet.
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guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:04 am | Permalink
Victoria
That is because Cassidy as host is leaving it up to the Gallery journos to do the dissecting.
I think thats fair enough. The problem is that Cassidy keeps control of the agenda and issues raised and we do not get the free flowing discussion you would get in the pub chat it is trying to emulate.
At least that is my take on the Insiders format.
903
Question
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:05 am | Permalink
http://auselections.com/
A new poll aggregator has made their debut!
Thanks Airlines.
“Emma Chisit”???? Surely that’s gotta be a joke site?
A New Zealander inquiring on price?
Emma’s forecast at this point has LNP down 1 seat to 89 and the ALP up 2 to 57…
904
Player One
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:06 am | Permalink
befuddled
I find a small dose of melatonin is as effective as a sleeping tablet.
Please do us all a favor and take one now.
905
Carey Moore
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:06 am | Permalink
The Republicans are terrified because they know that if someone nominated by a Democratic President, even if a moderate, gets in, it is going to change the ideology of the Supreme Court.
Which might not sound that important but it actually is. There have been so many issues in the US that have arisen or worsened in the last few decades because of the 5-4 conservative break of the Rehnquist and Roberts Courts!
906
daretotread
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:07 am | Permalink
Bemused
My planet is one that watches events. It is not gloomy nor fear filled. However it is also one that actually looks at events as they are now, not as they were 30 years ago.
My planet is one that involved studying in depth the causes of WWI. How a crazy assassin triggered the death of many millions. Each party made a judgment call and each was wildly wrong. The only winner from WWI was the USA who came in late to pick up the peices. Everyone else were losers.
One other thing that makes the current situation dangerous is that the USA is a weaker nation than it was in 1988. Financially it is in debt, manufacturing has declined, crazies are running one of its major parties, racial tension is very high, it spends big on military but performance does not seem spectacular, infrastucture is old and not in good repair, it has a small merchant fleet, there is a very very stong anti government movement. These factors make it a weaker country than in the past. However weakness can be dangerous because it often leads to ill thought out responses.
907
bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:07 am | Permalink
zoomster@895
bemused
Dear, dear – having comprehension problems?
I didn’t say you were one (I know you are not). But on this issue, you are displaying all the traits of one – ignoring the science because it happens to disagree with your prejudices.
I am aware of some of the science surrounding light and melatonin.
The circadian rhythm is primarily driven by light and dark. So artificially altering the natural periods of light and darkness will disrupt it. Adolescents and others inflict this on themselves.
908
victoria
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:08 am | Permalink
guytaur
Yes, it does seem to be the strategy of BCassidy on Insiders
909
Douglas and Milko
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:09 am | Permalink
I am only catching up with the News now, but I too laughed at Massola’s typical anti-Shorten article coming on the heels of some positive stuff from Conference yesterday.
James Massola’s vitriol against Labor, in shoddy articles that distort facts and just plain make things up, was why I finally gave up my Fairfax subscription.
The guy hates Shorten, and Labor. If I wanted to get that sort of vituperative stuff, I would buy the Daily Telegraph.
910
victoria
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:09 am | Permalink
Anyhoo off to lunch. Talk later
911
Puff, the Magic Dragon.
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:09 am | Permalink
Bemused,
I am glad you like it. Yes, I am right and you are wrong. I have an internationally acclaimed university, conducting ground-breaking research into sleep, behind my information. You have your beliefs.
Don’t argue with me, argue with The Flinders University. For people who have never heard of it because it is in South Australia this is from Wiki.
Flinders is a verdant university and a member of the Innovative Research Universities Group 1, and ranks in the 10-16 bracket in Australia and 36th in the world of those established less than 50 years. Academically, the university pioneered a cross-disciplinary approach to education, and its faculties of medicine and the humanities are ranked among the nation’s top 10. The university is ranked within the world’s top 400 institutions in the Academic Ranking of World Universities. The latest Times Higher Education rankings of the world’s top universities ranks Flinders University in the 251 to 300 bracket.
912
bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:10 am | Permalink
daretotread@896
Bemused
You are wrong!!!!!!!!
I am following events closely. Turkey is bombing in Aleppo and Latakia. They bombed the airbase just captured by the Kurds Menagh.
Try this link
http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2016/13-february-turkish-artillery-continues-to-shell-ypg-positions
The Bosphoros is governed by a treaty, BUT it allows turkey to block access to any ships where there is or MIGHT be hostile intent. If Russia activley attacks Turkish military in Syria they MIGHT (MIGHT, MIGHT not WILL get it) block the channel.
Artillery fire is not ‘bombing’ and is nothing new in that region.
913
C@tmomma
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:11 am | Permalink
So the Coalition are going to copy the Tories in Britain and bring in a global tax deduction limit, eh?
You can have work-related deductions, equities, capital gains tax deductions or negatively-geared property investments but you can’t have it all if it goes over a defined limit?
Good luck with impressing the base with that one, Scott! 😀
914
billie
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:12 am | Permalink
Re Vic state politics. If we want to find out what people really think of Skyrail need to grab a coffee in Centre Road or McKinnon Rd or perhaps in Oakleigh shops on a Thursday
Bemused could go under cover in Oakleigh on Thursday
915
The Silver Bodgie
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:13 am | Permalink
For those interested in the cricket New Zealand v Australia and don’t have Foxtel
http://firstrowau.eu/watch/410304/1/watch-new-zealand-vs-australia.html#
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bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:14 am | Permalink
daretotread@906
Bemused
My planet is one that watches events. It is not gloomy nor fear filled. However it is also one that actually looks at events as they are now, not as they were 30 years ago.
My planet is one that involved studying in depth the causes of WWI. How a crazy assassin triggered the death of many millions. Each party made a judgment call and each was wildly wrong. The only winner from WWI was the USA who came in late to pick up the peices. Everyone else were losers.
One other thing that makes the current situation dangerous is that the USA is a weaker nation than it was in 1988. Financially it is in debt, manufacturing has declined, crazies are running one of its major parties, racial tension is very high, it spends big on military but performance does not seem spectacular, infrastucture is old and not in good repair, it has a small merchant fleet, there is a very very stong anti government movement. These factors make it a weaker country than in the past. However weakness can be dangerous because it often leads to ill thought out responses.
The US military is far ahead of any other.
Whatever weaknesses the US has, its military strength is not one of them.
917
daretotread
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:15 am | Permalink
Bemused
Stop showing ignorance. Turkey has NOT been involved in Syria until THIS morning. They have used deniable proxies for sure – the Turkmen and ISIS, but actual Turkish army is new, new, new, Comprehendo.
Also they have bombeed with PLANES – you know those things in the sky the Meangh airbase which the kurds captured two days ago. That is the FIRST time turkish plaes have entered Syria, certainly since the Russian brought in their big defences.
918
zoomster
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:16 am | Permalink
victoria
can’t help you with that one, being the Queen of rural Victoria.
Wouldn’t worry about it much, would think it’s one of those NIMBY things which – in the long run – die out as the benefits of the concept sink in.
919
KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:16 am | Permalink
I’ll go back to watching cricket when they get honest and put the betting odds up on the scoreboard, where they should be.
920
confessions
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:17 am | Permalink
For those interested in the cricket New Zealand v Australia and don’t have Foxtel
http://firstrowau.eu/watch/410304/1/watch-new-zealand-vs-australia.html#
My anti malware software blocks that site.
921
guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:18 am | Permalink
marian_maio: Donald Trump: Justice Scalia’s Death ‘Massive Setback’ for Conservative Movement – Breitbart https://t.co/5ojvB1VkTM
922
guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:20 am | Permalink
IAStartingLine: Longest court nomination was 125 days. No way GOP Sen can block twice+ that long w/o terrible electoral fallout over being obstructionists
The reality.
========================
24 has crossed to ALP conference for Luke Foley address
923
Jolyon Wagg
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:20 am | Permalink
Silver Bodgie
Thanks for the link….works fine for me….hopefully not because malware is getting through my firewall 🙂
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bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:22 am | Permalink
Puff, the Magic Dragon.@911
Bemused,
I am glad you like it. Yes, I am right and you are wrong. I have an internationally acclaimed university, conducting ground-breaking research into sleep, behind my information. You have your beliefs.
Don’t argue with me, argue with The Flinders University. For people who have never heard of it because it is in South Australia this is from Wiki.
Flinders is a verdant university and a member of the Innovative Research Universities Group 1, and ranks in the 10-16 bracket in Australia and 36th in the world of those established less than 50 years. Academically, the university pioneered a cross-disciplinary approach to education, and its faculties of medicine and the humanities are ranked among the nation’s top 10. The university is ranked within the world’s top 400 institutions in the Academic Ranking of World Universities. The latest Times Higher Education rankings of the world’s top universities ranks Flinders University in the 251 to 300 bracket.
Interesting.
I have had the good fortune to study at 3 universities but don’t rely on their reputation.
I rely on information I have previously read but acknowledge research is still being conducted and yielding information.
But surely the now pervasive artificial lighting of relatively high intensity has had a profound impact on the normal day/night cycle and its effect on humans?
925
guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:24 am | Permalink
bemused@924
That does apply. However it applies to all ages and not just to teens who have a different sleeping cycle.
926
Player One
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:24 am | Permalink
guytaur
marian_maio: Donald Trump: Justice Scalia’s Death ‘Massive Setback’ for Conservative Movement – Breitbart https://t.co/5ojvB1VkTM
The comments on that site are astounding. Here’s a couple:
Buy your guns now if you don’t have enough firepower to protect your home.
To avoid any battles with the Senate, Obama should nominate the Republican nominee to replace Scalia.
A major loss for America … Suspicious timing would be a understatement.
Couldnt’ be just a coincidence that one of the last truly conservative justices dies while the marxist muslim in chief is still in office.
Well if a liberal justice is appointed, we can bid welcome to 5+ million illegal immigrants as they are given amnesty.
Some Americans are just batsh#t crazy!
927
bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:28 am | Permalink
billie@914
Re Vic state politics. If we want to find out what people really think of Skyrail need to grab a coffee in Centre Road or McKinnon Rd or perhaps in Oakleigh shops on a Thursday
Bemused could go under cover in Oakleigh on Thursday
I am tempted.
I think there is a lot of irrational fear driving the negative reaction.
Ground level rail cuts a swathe through communities and is highly unsightly with a strip of un-maintained wasteland either side of the track. Frequently it is elevated by embankments which are again unsightly.
The elevated rail I have seen overseas is a vast improvement on what we have at present. It allows free movement where previously it was obstructed. It will be quieter if properly constructed. It frees up a lot of land for other uses.
928
bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:30 am | Permalink
daretotread@917
Bemused
Stop showing ignorance. Turkey has NOT been involved in Syria until THIS morning. They have used deniable proxies for sure – the Turkmen and ISIS, but actual Turkish army is new, new, new, Comprehendo.
Also they have bombeed with PLANES – you know those things in the sky the Meangh airbase which the kurds captured two days ago. That is the FIRST time turkish plaes have entered Syria, certainly since the Russian brought in their big defences.
I have only read reports of shelling and suggest you go to the link billie provided. It also makes the point that the Turks have previously fired across the border in certain circumstances.
929
Player One
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:31 am | Permalink
Puff
I rely on information I have previously read but acknowledge research is still being conducted and yielding information.
This is as close to a concession as you are ever likely to get. I’d take it and quit while you’re ahead.
930
guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:32 am | Permalink
bemused
Even in an Australian context. The skyrail concept has a little forerunner on the Eastern Suburbs line. The one featured in Midnight Oil’s Power and the Passion.
In Kings Cross it goes right past buildings just before it turns into a tunnel. There also seems to be no problem with the Circular Quay part other than visual pollution of the station given the view it is blocking.
Thats it for complaints. Like in Singapore the reality is people have no problem with elevated railways.
931
bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:32 am | Permalink
guytaur@925
bemused@924
That does apply. However it applies to all ages and not just to teens who have a different sleeping cycle.
To what extent is that induced by their behaviour? e.g. late nights playing computer games and conversing with friends on social media?
It certainly seems to have drawn a lot more attention than it did when I was a teen.
932
guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:34 am | Permalink
P1
You won’t get any arguments from me about some Americans. They make the Troppo cases in the Northern Territory look sane.
933
bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:35 am | Permalink
guytaur@930
bemused
Even in an Australian context. The skyrail concept has a little forerunner on the Eastern Suburbs line. The one featured in Midnight Oil’s Power and the Passion.
In Kings Cross it goes right past buildings just before it turns into a tunnel. There also seems to be no problem with the Circular Quay part other than visual pollution of the station given the view it is blocking.
Thats it for complaints. Like in Singapore the reality is people have no problem with elevated railways.
Agree, but your Australian examples are not in suburbia. That will be new AFAIAA.
934
guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:37 am | Permalink
bemused
The difference is that now teenagers are seen and not hidden invisibility at home with no communication.
eg. Lots of 60’s American tv shows about teens wanting to use the phone at late night to talk with friends usually featuring girls.
935
zoomster
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:37 am | Permalink
bemused
they play computer games late at night because they can’t sleep, not the other way around.
Read the Dr Karl article.
936
KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:37 am | Permalink
Is there something poetic about a man going out and blasting the hell out of innocent quail and going back to his motel and dropping dead?
Though I understand that Obama was seen slipping out of his hotel room in the early hours of the morning and jumping into a waiting car.
937
guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:39 am | Permalink
bemused
See Western Rail line. Elevated via road bridges and the like. Summer Hill for example the rail line goes along the top floors of apartment blocks if you want a suburban example.
938
Player One
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:40 am | Permalink
The death of Scalia is shaping up to be an interesting battle. Could overshadow the US presidential primaries:
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/13/10987112/scalia-replacement-republicans
It will also put a lot of pressure on the Republican nominees, who will have to say whether or not they support the blocking of a re-appointment.
939
Question
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:41 am | Permalink
My anti malware software blocks that site.
Tried a few browsers and none really liked it… a bit suss. I didn’t really want to create an account. One browser played the audio…
The audio would be fine for me, I would have thought I could get that legit. Anyone know if that’s available from a New Zealand radio stream or whatever?
940
guytaur
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:44 am | Permalink
Question
Look on website of NZ radio. Unless Geo block in place you will be fine.
Many radio stations broadcast to the world with no geoblock.
941
bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:44 am | Permalink
The concern I have about the elevated rail is that it is done properly.
For an example of a monumental Victorian rail stuff-up see this article.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/vline-crisis-tracks-on-365b-regional-rail-link-to-be-torn-up-this-weekend-20160212-gmsude.html
Looking at the photo I see not just a curve, but an ‘S-bend’ with relatively small radius.
Surely there are clear standards for track construction that would say you just don’t do this? Socrates will probably be able to give an informed comment.
Rather than build that monstrosity it seems they should have built the new viaduct and straightened the track.
Unfortunately I doubt any accountability will ever be sheeted home as it should be.
There should be a full and open public inquiry into this fiasco.
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bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:45 am | Permalink
guytaur@934
bemused
The difference is that now teenagers are seen and not hidden invisibility at home with no communication.
eg. Lots of 60’s American tv shows about teens wanting to use the phone at late night to talk with friends usually featuring girls.
You mean a lot less distractions at night? Agree. And there a lot of the problem lies I think.
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bemused
Posted Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 11:47 am | Permalink
zoomster@935
bemused
they play computer games late at night because they can’t sleep, not the other way around.
Read the Dr Karl article.
What’s the link again?
So what did they do before computers and computer games?
Trick question, I know the answer as I lived through it. We went to sleep.
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Noooooooo! We read much of the night, and were none the wiser!
Can you imagine what High School was like when you could not get to sleep until 4am. Trying to sleep was even more nightmarish. Lying awake thinking from 11pm until 4am was soul destroying. So, I found I did better if I read away the hours. I still do this. I can still function well, on a lot of reading and a little sleep, but not if I am doing “thinking work” like trying to write a grant, as I am now.
I was right at the tail end of the distribution of even my most might owl friends at school, so this was my problem in particular, but now I work with many more people who are night owls, and we all trade tips for how to deal with this side of our nature, and the sleep deprivation that can accompany it.
Actually, does anyone here know whether melatonin is related to the pigment melanin, or is the name coincidental? My father’s family are all night owls, but we also share the trait of not tanning. This is because we have something slightly different than melanin in out skins, and so freckle. This is common in redheads, if which I am one, and of which there is a large number in the family. Although even the dark-haired do not tan. We have no blondes.
So if the reaction of sunlight on the melanin in the skin triggers “awakeness”, then it is no wonder none of us can wake up in the morning.
I would like to research this question myself, but unfortunately I need to be researching the dynamics of in-compressible fluids and make it sound interesting to the grant awarders.
I think I need a nap.
Kev-1-7, re Scalia – over the years I’ve heard a number of people referred to as having no interest in sex, and it nearly always turns out that they have an intense interest, but in a kind of sex that “polite society” regards as disreputable. So my imagination is starting to run riot as to what might be revealed about Scalia, that will horrify his uptight conservaturd supporters.
Douglas and Milko@1074
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ReachTEL offers another increment of evidence for a slight loss of honeymoon gloss for the Malcolm Turnbull prime ministership.
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Was there any need for that?
Douglas & Milko @ 1074,
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Douglas & Milko @ 1075,
‘ Actually, does anyone here know whether melatonin is related to the pigment melanin, or is the name coincidental?’
Yes I do.
No it isn’t.
Yes it is. 🙂
Douglas and Milko@1074
Wasn’t Antonin Scalia a Cross Dresser like J. Edgar Hoover?
C@t
Any more on that further Labor announcement you mentioned briefly last night ?
d&m
You used ‘~’ in your @ 1046 post. Yep, I know I’m ignorant. Does it mean ‘around’?
Sorry about 1074. I think I copied the whole page instead of the immediate conversation.
D&M, re Emma Chisit. It was when Alastair Morrison heard someone ask a shop assistant “emma chisit?” that he was inspired to write about the Strine language, under the nime of Afferbeck Lauder. Clinton Boys, the stats nerd who has started up the site, has obviously embraced the name with gusto, but the site is quite serious. I really wonder whether yet another poll-aggregation site is necessary – seems like every newly graduated nerd thinks he should start one up – but perhaps it will take the pressure off our William and give him time to finish that bloody PhD.
don
no, things haven’t changed – few rules of behaviour apply to every member of a certain demographic.
[This business of teenagers having different cycles of sleep is self indulgent bullshit.
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Backed by decades of objective research.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-real-story-of-how-the-shane-warne-foundation-fell-apart-20160211-gmrbjs.html
Who would trust Shane Warne!
Douglas and Milko@1084
How did you do it?
Most impressive … 😆
My wife has a natural tendency to be up at night and sleep all day. She says she got it from her grandma and she’s passed it on to all of the boys. Thinking evolutionarily, I suppose the tribe of normal people who sleep when it’s dark need a few among them with a “nightwatchman” gene so they can tend the fire, guard the cave from predators, etc.
Bemused
For what it is worth, before abusing me, have you checked out the BBC “game show” World War III which covers a full nuclear war scenario – I think Britain gets wiped out.
I have not seen it but it apparently caused a bit of a stir.
dave @ 1082,
‘ Any more on that further Labor announcement you mentioned briefly last night ? ‘
It seems it was the Education announcement by Luke Foley (damn that Sam Dastyari trying to get us excited enough to come back to Conference today! 😉 )
However, on the other hand this is pretty big:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/political-donations-nsw-labors-luke-foley-pledges-realtime-reporting-20160212-gmt1ke.html
Run a few different starting times at school and let students take their pick. That’s the practice of Templestowe College in Melbourne.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rnafternoons/victorian-high-school-teaching-a-new-way/6353574
…and if we’re at the ‘I ate raw gravel for breakfast, tell that to youngsters today and they’ll never believe you’ level of argument, I rose at 6 to make breakfast for my father, got him off to work by 6.30, woke my sisters by 7, got them ready for school, woke my mother (with hot breakfast) at 8, then set off for the 3 k (we were just under the limit for a bus…) walk to school.
Doesn’t mean I couldn’t have done with a few hours’ extra sleep.
Jack A Randa@1089
My wife tends a bit that way, but not as bad.
My explanation is that she has “gone nocturnal”.
Airlines
[The act of learning another language stimulates your brain and makes it more nimble (and then makes it easier to learn other languages if you so desire etc). So even though you didn’t find French in itself that interesting or helpful, it’s probably helped you in ways you might not have realised.]
Yep.
Totally anecdotal but children who can do well in languages that employ highly nuanced written symbols rather than any somewhat normal western language AND any western language are real ‘goers’ in the smarts race.
I’m a Doormouse.
As my mum used to say, “You could go to sleep on a barbed wire fence!”
She was right too! When my head meets the pillow at night I’m out like a light. Hence I can’t read in bed at night either. 🙂
daretotread@1090
I am not abusing you, but you have a predilection to always go for the worst case scenario and you misinterpret things to support your pov.
You forgot the uphill part. You’re supposed to say that you cycled six kilometres uphill in both directions.
Bemused, you asked D&M “how did you do it?” I’m tempted to answer “like this” (like the poor bugger who was asked “how did you manage to guillotine your finger off?”), but that would fill the page up with even more rubbish. So I’ll just say ctrl-A, ctrl-C and paste into the “Leave a Reply” box. If anyone wants to test it, please follow up with a ctrl-Z !
Ta C@t.