Nothing actually further to add at this stage, but the new day requires a new thread. Please observe the plethora of new posts below for those wishing to follow late counting, and especially the fairly detailed one attempting to review the Senate situation. These extend on to the second page; I’ll do something to make them more accessible in the morning.
[Mr Denmore @MrDenmore 2m
Interesting point by @jonaholmesAge that swing against ALP in areas most saturated by Murdoch papers was less than expected #auspol #abcrn]
Hopefully the decline in the Greens Party vote will lead to them being more pragmatic re policy going forward.
The only time I ever handed out how to votes they all seemed pleasant enough, except the Christian Democrats, who were odd, obese and kept to themselves.
[Psephos
Posted Sunday, September 8, 2013 at 8:38 am | PERMALINK
Of all last night’s results, I’m most upset about Mike Kelly losing, if that is confirmed. He is really a first-class guy and a fine MP.]
no surprise there, its what eden monaro does, just ask steve whan.
Looks like Indi will be a Liberal retain. At least it’s a marginal seat now, and the Liberals might even decide to replace the current member with someone more palatable in 2016.
Rex, they were pretty pragmatic in most areas over the past 3 years, letting quite a lot through the Senate that they ordinarily wouldn’t. I can’t see this continuing under the Liberal Government,
On Eden Monaro, Kelly is 230 votes behind and pre polls haven’t been counted yet, especially the big Quenbeyan one. Kelly got 60% + in the other Quenbeyan booths, and I reckon he will get up .
His profile and being extremely well organised will help in the postals as well.
Hoping so, as the $4 he was paying on Sportsbet was irresistible.
Good morning Bludgeroonies.
The sun has risen
The dogs are wagging their tails
The coffee still smells glorious
….not the end of the world (well, not yet anyway)
[ “@rupertmurdoch: Aust election public sick of public sector workers and phony welfare scroungers sucking life out of economy.Others nations to follow in time” ]
Couldn’t even wait 24 hours before issuing his riding instructions.
Yep, we are now a blatant brutal Murdochracy in all but name.
Psephos
[never talk to Liberals when I’m handing out. No doubt some of them are nice people, but I can’t bring myself to be civil on election days.]
I’m always civil. I offered a Liberal with a headache Panadol, and helped her find her glasses. I offered sunscreen for one of her children and a fold-up chair, drawing pad and pencils I had in the car.
None of this hurt my work at the booth one little bit, and truth be told, I felt that this was entirely in keeping with the ethos of my party and my own.
The other boothworkers, with the exception of the ugly, who absented himself when the Lib boothcaptain suggested he help some place else had no choice but to be gushingly polite back — which would have irked some of them as much as it it does you, no doubt.
[Now the reality of a coalition government will bite.
Despite its enthusiasm for the coalition, on the evidence available WA will get no better financial deal from Mr Abbott.
Julie Bishop, the deputy Liberal leader, foreign minister and WA’s most senior politician, has made clear an Abbott Government will do nothing to change the GST.
We know that $500 million of rail funding over ten years is now gone, outweighing an extra $200 million for the Swan Valley bypass road.
And $500 million of funding for upgrades to the Great Northern Highway and the North West Coastal Highway is gone too. Now it’s merely an aspiration to be considered, along with every other national infrastructure priority.
Colin Barnett — who has defined his premiership by “standing up for WA” — has been silent on all this during the campaign.]
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/18826406/disunity-sends-labor-packing/
The real test for Barnett is about to begin. You can only grandstand for so long before people start to equate you with that boy crying wolf.
[In 2010 the party, which advocates a flat 20 per cent income tax rate, the legalisation of marijuana and euthanasia, and cuts to welfare spending, won 1.81 per cent of the senate vote.
The party, which heavily backs the rights of firearms owners, also wants people to be able to carry them concealed when in public.
“Firearms may be the only means by which people such as women, the elderly and infirm can hope to defend themselves against rapists, robbers and murderers,” the party’s policy states.
The shooting theme runs deep in the party’s leaders. Mr Whelan, who is the party’s Victorian senate candidate, is also the president of the Shooters Union NSW. Mr Leyonhjelm’s profile on the Liberal Democratic Party and Outdoor Recreation Party websites state that he joined the Shooters Party in 1992, was its chairman in 1999 and managed the party’s 2003 campaign to retain its NSW Legislative Council seat.
He is the Liberal Democratic Party’s lead candidate in the senate for NSW.
Some readers have contacted The Daily Telegraph concerned they mistakenly opted for the fringe party in postal voting. But Mr Leyonhjelm defended running both political parties and the fact they swap preferences.
He said he and others in the Liberal Democratic Party took over the NSW-registered Outdoor Recreation Party about four years ago and then registered it nationally a year ago.
“We were recruiting membership for the Democratic Liberal Party at a 4WD convention about two years and we put out a sign saying “Stop The Greens” and they were literally lining up to get on board,” he said.
“So we decided to rename the party the Outdoor Recreation Party (Stop The Greens).”]
These ones should be easy for Abbott to get in the cart.
Mod lib
It’s not the end of the world yet.
Rabbott is consulting George Pell, and will announce it this week.
Morning
Wonder who is likely to become LOTO and DLOTO
Does anyone know who “Australian Voice” in Greenway was? I assume they were Hansonites.
Abbott will get his PPL through in some – maybe diminished – form, he’ll undo carbon pricing next year (while using Labor and Green intransigence as a stick to beat them with) and assuming Labor’s hard work on behalf of the LNP finally shows some results he won’t even have to do anything to stop the boats.
He’ll go hard on things only Labor supporters care about – e.g. unions. There will be a whole host of little aspirations that he won’t be able to meet because that incompetent Labor left government finances in such a poor state. Everything else will be softly-softly, a faltering of progress or a slow erosion that no will notice. At least until his next term in government.
There is a massive disaster though as my detailed election spreadsheet where I was recording all the results, including percentage counted, from last night and very early this morning has vanished!
Have searched and searched and can only find the pre-election version of this document.
This is an unmitigated disaster, but I am going to make it all better with pancakes.
In a month or so Wayne Swan’s ticking time bomb goes off.
Mod
Arghhh! 🙁
confessions
Yep 35 days to be exact! Hope Labor get ruthless. Do unto Abbott as was done to them
Bob Ellis
[If we do lose, it wil be because Hawker, day after day, or Rudd perhaps, did not do what I suggested..]
[Zuvele Leschen @ZuveleLeschen 9m
Hey, Sophie, I’ve got a brilliant idea about how you could defeat our Evil Alliance next time — try being a decent local member. #indivotes]
victoria:
Yes!
I am off to do something useful with the day. I hope you all enjoy it too. Our last day of freedom before New Serfdom is imposed.
shellbell, so he gave himself an out, haha. See, always qualify your statements, or at least promise to eat your hat and then when you’re wrong you’re can claim you weren’t really wrong in any way that counted ;).
Speaking to other poll workers helps fill in the Day.
I had a chat with a Christian Democrat once who, I think genuinely, believed that Gays should be stoned and not in the Nimbin sense.
Rex Douglas:
[Hopefully the decline in the Greens Party vote will lead to them being more pragmatic re policy going forward.]
because “pragmatism” (a.k.a “whatever it takes”) worked so very well for the ALP … Oh wait …
confessions@69. So could the member for Griffith
Socrates
I am going to the Carlton game today. Thank goodness for the footy finals. They have been a great distraction for me!
Did anyone else think the two speeches yesterday were the worst in living memory?
I am so hoping Palmer gets the HOR seat. popcorn time
Hi Psephos,
I feel your pain today!
Unfortunately, being right about Rudd and the disaster his leadership would reek upon the Party has come to be. Obviously, Labor needs a period of catharsis to weed out the political numnuts that allowed/encouraged the self indulgence that precipitated yesterday’s disaster.
Has Labor learnt anything? Not really, if Rudd and his spruikers are allowed to dominate the Party in future.
Unfortunately for our sanity, rusted ons like you an me will be back. As The Eagles said in their song “Hotel California” about the vagaries of fame and fortune, “We can check out any time we like, but we can never leave”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqODbP1T3nk
Welcome to the Hotel Labor Party!
LOTO Albanese
DLOTO Plibersek
A team: Butler, Husic, Leigh, Marles, Burke
Mod Lib@130
Yes.
confessions@122
Zoomster not mucking about 🙂
[Mod Lib
Posted Sunday, September 8, 2013 at 8:57 am | PERMALINK
Did anyone else think the two speeches yesterday were the worst in living memory?]
no, i just think we expect to much hollywood bluster these days.
What is Swan’s ticking time bomb?
rummel
Nah, some of us just haven’t been alive very long ;).
A good result for Australia – but not perfect.
For the Coalition:
Good – win the HoR’s.
Not so good – Senate looks like it’s go to need populist bribery to get stuff done.
For the ALP:
Good – Wasn’t NSW/QLD style decapitation – this is good for Australia because the ALP needs to be strong and effective to be a good Opposition and future Government.
Bad – Rudd is still in Parliament – while he is in Parliament he still wants to be ALP Leader and PM.
Just Me@109
That was doing the rounds last night.
ad Allana McTiernan to my A Team.
Most disappointed with Tony Burke’s decision to not run as LOTO.
I think the next election (DD?) is very winnable for the ALP if they play it tactically hard during the next 18 months or so. Burke was the stand-out leader AFAIC.
confessions@118
Making public full costings via PBO ?
I will be amazed if the tories comply. They will do their utmost not to.
Then Labor can say the win is illegitimate, based on lies.
Whinger never came through with what he supposedly had on his phone.
[Kieran Gilbert @Kieran_Gilbert 4m
Julie Bishop on a possible Rudd diplomatic appointment: “nothing springs to mind” @SkyNewsAust #electionchannel ping @vanOnselenP]
RD
Doubt very much there will be a DD
dave:
The bureacrats will release the figures. It’s been legislated .
Can someone tell me why Bowen is seen as a leader?
He was not a terribly impressive minister, minimal charisma but one of the more treacherous underllings of Eddie and the Terrigals.
[I will be amazed if the tories comply.]
There has to be some legislated penalty for not complying, though I can’t imagine what it is.
I retract 149. I’m not sure exactly what it is that the PBO releases. If it’s what’s already been submitted then Abbott can’t do anything about it.