Nothing actually further to add at this stage, but the new day requires a new thread. Please observe the plethora of new posts below for those wishing to follow late counting, and especially the fairly detailed one attempting to review the Senate situation. These extend on to the second page; I’ll do something to make them more accessible in the morning.
[That’s a much better idea. They could all just Skype into the building from their EOs.]
Well, QT would be a loss less rowdy. 🙂
And the Speaker could eject someone at the flick of a switch.
Poodle Pyne, flick. 🙂
[3. If 1 and 2 don’t work, just cut the parliament and Senate down by 10-15%. What is wrong with 4 Senators per State, then you can let the Territories become States as well- solved]
You wouldn’t have enough people to scrutinise legislation, sit on committees, debate legislation. The Senate would be turned into a rubber stamp.
@Mod Lib/3749
Permanently remove them, i.e. don’t replace them.
Nemspy, that one has disappeared but the Libs have slotted their economic policy in to take it’s place. Which is of course the why the Libs still have no idea what their economic policy is.
Why don’t we do away with divisions and just have a suitably secure electronic process. One minute for those present to push the ‘aye’ or ‘nay’ button and the result immediately displayed, as happens in some other parliaments? Any one who doesn’t want to vote has one minute to bolt.
[Which is of course the why the Libs still have no idea what their economic policy is.]
Yes it was telling that Brandis and Kroger couldn’t name a single economic reform that the Abbott government is going to pursue.
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The Constitution specifically authorised the Parliament to give the Territories representation in either house.
The Constitution probably should have a cap on territory representation saying no territory can have more representatives than it would if it were an original state. That would also prevent the High Court from capping the territories at their current level.
Had I been involved in writing the Constitution and been supporting states rights, I would have had each state appoint a High Court Justice and would have included a mechanism for allowing the states to trigger a referendum to change the Constitution (similar to the unused provision in the US constitution that allows states to initiate amendments).
Just to change the subject completely for a minute, if anyone is planning a trip to SE Asia, be warned there is a nasty strain of viral pneumonia going around. I got back from Thailand and Malaysia on Tuesday, and by last night I was so sick I took myself off to the Alfred. I spent most of last night and this morning in an isolation ward being tested for everything from bird flu to cholera, but the verdict was eventually just non-specific lurgy, so I was pumped full of antibiotics and sent home. I’ve now been told of several other people who’ve come home with viral pneumonia recently.
They have no idea what their economic policies are Shows, it’s the joke of the century.
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I do not know of any Parliament that allows general voting from outside the Chamber (Apparently the UK does allow unwell MPs to vote from ambulances in the grounds).
The time savings from electronic voting are from tallying not calling parliamentarians to their chamber.
[They have no idea what their economic policies are Shows, it’s the joke of the century.]
It’s going to be like the HOward government where they had no idea what they were there to do until they decided to bring back the GST.
Maybe i mis heard but i thought Kroger let slip that the plans are still under wraps.
[ Maybe i mis heard but i thought Kroger let slip that the plans are still under wraps ]
hopefully we will know before the election
oh wait
Adam – who was the Tasmanian who helped write the Constitution? Also, hope you’re feeling better soon. It must have been bad for you to resort to hospital.
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If the election was still going to be on the 14th then we would.*
*Presuming that the mistake was made on the same dates not same point in relation to the election.
Psephos I’m told there is something called Walking Flu getting around and I’ve recently read a Robin Cook and a Stephen King novel so basically I’m hiding in terror
3765
Andrew Inglis Clark of Hare-Clark fame. Attorney-General and the Supreme Court of Tasmania.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Inglis_Clark
Andrew Inglis Clark may well have been appointed to the High Court if the states each got to appoint a Justice.
New thread.
Psephos
hope you’re feeling better soon
sorry to continue any angst about election — carr’s exit reminds me of lack of urgency about exits from senate. weren’t there premature announcements from labor notorieties? however real disappointment was bob brown – sorry to continue green criticisms also, but why did brown leave early if election so important? milne did not carry flag well, and his exit arguably changed outcome esp in the senate. after all bob was part responsible for a lot of instability in past government (if there was any such thing) -at least leadership troubles.
William
Hearty congratulations.
Does this mean that Nate Silver is America’s William Bowe?
[Just to change the subject completely for a minute, if anyone is planning a trip to SE Asia, be warned there is a nasty strain of viral pneumonia going around. I got back from Thailand and Malaysia on Tuesday, and by last night I was so sick I took myself off to the Alfred. I spent most of last night and this morning in an isolation ward being tested for everything from bird flu to cholera, but the verdict was eventually just non-specific lurgy, so I was pumped full of antibiotics and sent home. I’ve now been told of several other people who’ve come home with viral pneumonia recently.]
Thanks!!! KL in two weeks time, I’ll keep my ear to the ground.
Geoffrey, Bob Brown needed to hand over the leadership eventually – it was beyond time for him to go really. Milne has not been a success as leader, I don’t think. I personally think she’s a very capable person, but just doesn’t connect with the voting public.
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House destroyed as firefighters battle bushfires in western Sydney
Unconfirmed reports of two firefighters injured as crews battle 40 uncontained blazes that have caused mass evacuations
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around the blogs there is people saying DO not spend
only spend at your local gro, store I am not going near department stores if I need something it will be local
another reason for us that our pensions will not increase
ah mr lib pensioner that means u too
I am not spending to scared and so should u be
grow your own have chooks go back to basic
turn off the tv don’t watch adds don’t buy any newspapers
u don’t need them
I have un subscribed to the department store catalogue on the net
and told them why,
I took a big amount of our money out of the bank also
ive been reading also how worried qlders are
its only Tuesday and he is already changing the country
there are wonderful painting or Andrew inglis clarke at the new part of the museum surprised u haven’t seen it Roxanne also the replica of the old gov, house down in the bonds store.
the first marriage there was conducted by ref knopwood and it was my future family member, held at the chapel at the old gov house opp franklin sq the Elizabeth street side.