With 30 days to go:
• Labor has resolved its preselection difficulty in Dobell by recruiting Emma McBride, a former Wyong councillor and head of pharmacy at Wyong Hospital. McBride is the daughter of Grant McBride, who held the local state electorate of The Entrance from 1992 to 2011. She had initially been a candidate for the original preselection process which had lately hit a brick wall with the non-ratification of Trevor Drake’s endorsement, but announced her withdrawal in May. It evidently took some strong persuasion by party administration to get her back on board.
• Centrebet has hiked the payout on a Labor victory from $4 to $4.80, with the Coalition in from $1.25 to $1.18, and there is now $4.80 to be had on a Labor win from Betfair against $1.26 for the Coalition. Sportsbet and Tom Waterhouse continue to offer $4 on Labor. Sportsbet has lengthened Labor’s odds in Petrie, Moreton and Parramatta but shortened them in Dobell, presumably on the back of McBride’s endorsement. Labor is now paying $2.50 in Dobell and the Coalition $1.50, compared with $3.50 and $1.25 at the start of the week.
@AussieAchmed
[My unwillingness to stay “below the radar” and not be afraid to voice my opinion when these changes are proposed because I see that so much they propose has been tried previously and failed and I question what they will do differently to make it succeed has resulted in me losing my job after 32 years.]
I can very well understand I am no longer below the radar due to a combination of being given work that is totally unsuitable – analogy a Finance person trying to do HRM, frustration, cynicism and the realisation that some time off on redeployment ‘gardening leave’ or a TSP would actually be a good thing as there is more to life than work.
@AussieAchmed
You know what the worst thing is – actually having the noble intentions to want to policy to succeed.
@My say/747
So he’s giving tax payer “freely” to business, with no guarantee that:
1. Will keep the employee more than 6 months.
2. Will transfer that employee to permanent bases if the business improves?
[Abbott says Tas economic plan will be announced next week, but gives part 1 today: $250 per f/n for employers who hire long term unemployed]
Which scheme the employers will gleefully fleece right up to the point at which the money runs out.
Then back to square one. But with less money left over to spend on genuinely productive economic measures.
I accidentally noticed a sign in the street the other day advertising the Liberal candidate for Grayndler – one “Dr Cedric Spencer”.
One things is for sure — he’s not running on hipster appeal. Personally, were I Liberal who looked like him, I’d have opted for one of those generic gravatars and said I was being ‘ironic’ and satirising political posters.
Anyhoo, I thought I’d check out his pitch to see if there was any tailoring of it to the specifics of Grayndler’s demographic — which would have been safe given he has zero chance of winning anyway.
There wasn’t. It was every bit as vacuous and trolling as you’d expect from the guy running for Warringah.
This stood out though:
[Click SHARE if you’re sick and tired of copping the costs of Labor’s failure to manage money.]
with a graphic showing a black gloved hand reaching for towards a pile of notes with the caption:
[Australian LaborFirst it was your Super. Now it’s your savings.]
Even though I was very young at the time, not yet 10 — I can recall this claim being made: “with Labor, your money isn’t safe in the banks.” It recurred under Fraser. Some tired old claims just never die. #zombieideas
[So he’s giving tax payer “freely” to business, with no guarantee that:
1. Will keep the employee more than 6 months.
2. Will transfer that employee to permanent bases if the business improves?]
Unfortunately that’s the way these employment programs work, the standard measures of success, and getting the payments is persons remain employed up to 6 months.
Higher interest rates would benefit me as well, my cash is still paying 6%, problem is the term expires in December.
Come on Joe – do your stuff. 😆
Dr Cedric! Seriously.
Libs are really hopeless at “structure”, aren’t they!
Buy a Green Army to fix carbon emissions.
Bribe polluters.
Buy some unemployed to “make” jobs.
Then they say that Labor is the big spender.
@Dr Fumbles McStupid/754
In my experience and in others, that does not work.
They sack you once you hit 6 months.
[Abbott says Tas economic plan will be announced next week, but gives part 1 today: $250 per f/n for employers who hire long term unemployed]
Wage subsidies are about the least effective labour market program as employment typically ends after the wage ends. These are lazy programs favored by the LNP as it gives money to employers.
Far better programs are aimed at the actual unemployed, developing skills and overcoming barriers to obtaining employment – e.g. location, travel, employer perceptions – these are ALP style programs.
@zoidlord
Thought that’s what I meant/said – employed up to 6 months or when the wage subsidy runs out!
[86 people like Cedric Spencer, Liberal for Grayndler.]
Poor Cerdic. 😉
Fumbles
I used to do stuff with archives and now I expected to be expert on fast trains 😆
Wonder Woman talking nonsense with Penny Wong.
I just watched an interview on CNBC with Andrew Robb.
Not sure if the CNBC site has the video up as of yet but he was asked some good questions, make of his answers as you like.
@Dr Fumbles McStupid/760
Ah ok 🙂
@CTar1
Oh can I swap sounds more fun than pretending to like IT systems
Wage subsidies have been used previously and have been found to be highly unsuccessful.
Again a better spend might be some form of actual degree or certificate.
Universities run graduate and industry learning programs, surely supporting these will be more beneficial to the long term unemployed.
Didn’t Abbott have a similar policy in 2010, for under thirties and over fifties?
He must hate fourty somethings.
black duck – the ABC desperate to tear down anything Labor.
Penny taking WW to task over swallowing HoJo’s line “hook, line and sinker”.
That kept her quiet!
@mexicanbeemer/767
From my experience, and my brothers experience, the cost of gaining skills, and licenses is the big problem for low paid workers or the unemployed.
[Bob Carr @bobjcarr now
Just launched Emma McBride’s campaign for Dobell at Wyong. She is chief pharmacist at Wyong Hospital. pic.twitter.com/yUgySVX860]
That’s a bit harsh on Cedric. I’ve seen uglier candidates.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2013/guide/gray/
Anyway, looksism is contrary to Greens policy.
crazyjane13 1h
Abbott says we’ll know exact costs/savings before election. Yet Hockey yesterday said they *wouldn’t
@mexicanbeemer
Wage subsidy programs have been duds for a long time. It is because the treatment group do not take anything away from the experience to assist them with future employment aside from a bit of work experience.
For long-term unemployed you have to find the underlying reasons for the unemployment and go for that. Even some basic foundation skills would be useful.
Of course any amount of subsidies and programs wont be of use where the local business/industry/economy is unsustauinable.
Fumbles
I can do the IT bit with some grace but my masters have just given a redundancy to the person in the Department of/for Transport who actually knew something about fast trains.
Also an Australian that was recruited to manage infrastructure has just resigned.
So the very slow progress on HS-2 goes on … despite a win in the courts against the NIMBY’s.
The UK Civil Service is no different.
zoidlord
Absolutely agree for educational costs are a major barrier facing the long term unemployed and hits the disabled very hard.
This is part of the inefficiency that is costing the government’s bottom line and as i have said earlier this government has made a pretty good effort of improving the situation.
@Dr Fumbles McStupid/777
Yes and the other reason why these programs don’t work is because when potential employers say to the potential employee “Why do you have so many short term employment jobs?”
I mean, WTF give us a break.
Politicians especially ones from the Coalition Party don’t know crap.
JUST ME
that’s our thoughts here sitting our living room
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what an insult to Tasmania, and what plan next week\
I wonder if he is waiting for the libs here to work it out for him
he should of had all this don’t 12 months ago
suppose thought this little gem up on the plane coming over
how 1950s of him
and not one extra job only one who sitting waiting for some one,
and who is says emplees will not bother and if they do they may of done any way
Here comes Bert on ABC24
Here comes Bert van Manen!
Dr Fumbles McStupid
Yes and the underlining reasons behind why a person has been unemployed is difference from case to case and i feel goes to show the misguided principle behind the attitude “o just get a job”
Even highly skilled people with qualifications and long work histories experience periods of unemployment.
He’s not wearing a blue tie. Fail!
94A!
@CTar1
From what I can gather the UK Civil Service is no barrel of laughs at the moment. The get in and wreck the place slash and burn of conservatives is world wide. And I note the Cameron was becoming more competitive in the polls too..
some one tweeted yesterday that the company tax was exactly the same as his policy 2010
so ru mentioning similar for tas,,,re monies paid to employees has he just looked up
2010 policies
is he that lazy
Psephs
[What happened to James Hird resigning at 10am?]
Melbourne need a new coach don’t they?
And they could probably do with a few drugs as well.
@mexicanbeemer
Exactly right and the scarring effect of unemployment is well known, particularly for young and old workers.
Note to candidates, do interviews with the sun behind you, squinting looks shifty. Oh sorry he is shifty.
Fumbles
Right on both points.
About 2,400 SCS (APS SES equivalents) gone in the last 6 mths (and who knows how many others). Big gaps.
Ed Milliband, it seems, is dumb as dog sh#t. ‘Dave’ advancing – FM!
Fumbles:
[Wage subsidies are about the least effective labour market program as employment typically ends after the wage ends.]
Indeed. If the advocates of “the free market” stopped for a second, they would know why this must be so. Either an employer has a capacity constraint that can be filled with an employee — in which case someone gets employed even if there is no subsidy, or there isn’t — in which case anyone taken up is only there at the value of the job in question less the subsidy. Since this typically be an unskilled position, there’s no reason for the employer not to dump the person and find someone else who will qualify in six months.
I’ve heard of family businesses taking on an unemployed relative — which essentially then becomes a form of middle-class welfare. Clearly though, it’s never going to be a cost-effective solution to structural unemployment. It does however trade on the assumption that the unemployed are largely just bludging and not trying hard enough to get a job, even though those people who really are not doing their darndest to find work are simply making way for people far more likely to prove useful to an employer, were a genuine job opportunity available, most of whom are bound to be disappointed in practice, their skills and attitudes notwithstanding.
@mysay
[some one tweeted yesterday that the company tax was exactly the same as his policy 2010
so ru mentioning similar for tas,,,re monies paid to employees has he just looked up
2010 policies
is he that lazy]
It is lazy politics they have no imagination, they could have announced:
a regional development fund for Tas,
or some support for industry transition,
maybe a skills funding support
or, if they wanted to give money to employers perhaps to reward innovative business models that create/jobs in regions i.e. community partnerships.
My goodness, a journo asking questions about the stuff being launched.
Jason Clare came prepared: he has a list.
[Mark McGowan @MarkMcGowanMP now
Barnetts $28 billion debt monster.
Up from $3.6 billion when he came to office]
Hey CC whatcha gotta say bout WA debt?
@Fran Barlow
There are more distasteful elements of wage subsidies (first popular in the US I believe for assisting disadvantaged workers) – provide an ongoing source of cheap labour for employers at 50% of the market rate – good for propping up poor business models and uncompetitive businesses.
I don’t buy the line about candidates having to be born, live in & never left, have a wife from, kids who go to school in, run a business in etc. etc. their electorate otherwise their considered some blow in. Seems like a vote for parochialism.
Psephos:
[Anyway, looksism is contrary to Greens policy.]
Most assuredly. Of course, if you aren’t able to say anything that causes people to wonder if you might not be intellectually or ethically rigorous then you pretty much have to have nice looks — or at least look respectable.
Bob Brown was certainly no oil painting, but he had a kind of avuncular charm and of course, he defined himself by his passion and humanity and capacity for plain speaking. Anyone who manages that does after a time look easier on the eye, because when you see them you think of the worthy things they stand for.