Highlights of day three

A happy ending for Labor in its candidate crisis in Dobell, but the betting markets continue to move against them.

With 30 days to go:

• Labor has resolved its preselection difficulty in Dobell by recruiting Emma McBride, a former Wyong councillor and head of pharmacy at Wyong Hospital. McBride is the daughter of Grant McBride, who held the local state electorate of The Entrance from 1992 to 2011. She had initially been a candidate for the original preselection process which had lately hit a brick wall with the non-ratification of Trevor Drake’s endorsement, but announced her withdrawal in May. It evidently took some strong persuasion by party administration to get her back on board.

• Centrebet has hiked the payout on a Labor victory from $4 to $4.80, with the Coalition in from $1.25 to $1.18, and there is now $4.80 to be had on a Labor win from Betfair against $1.26 for the Coalition. Sportsbet and Tom Waterhouse continue to offer $4 on Labor. Sportsbet has lengthened Labor’s odds in Petrie, Moreton and Parramatta but shortened them in Dobell, presumably on the back of McBride’s endorsement. Labor is now paying $2.50 in Dobell and the Coalition $1.50, compared with $3.50 and $1.25 at the start of the week.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Dr Fumbles McStupid

    Posted Thursday, August 8, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    @AussieAchmed

    My unwillingness to stay “below the radar” and not be afraid to voice my opinion when these changes are proposed because I see that so much they propose has been tried previously and failed and I question what they will do differently to make it succeed has resulted in me losing my job after 32 years.

    I can very well understand I am no longer below the radar due to a combination of being given work that is totally unsuitable – analogy a Finance person trying to do HRM, frustration, cynicism and the realisation that some time off on redeployment ‘gardening leave’ or a TSP would actually be a good thing as there is more to life than work.
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    Commissioner, 2 x Deputy Commissioners, 6 x Aisst Commissioners head the Dept.

    NOT ONE has worked in a prison and only one is even from WA ad he’s an ex-cop/accountant trying to manage operations.

    I should stop depressing about it and move on.

    I have a WA University wanting me to do sessional lectures.
    Be a nice change of pace.

    My brother is head of international students at a Vic Uni and he reckons there could be some work there as well…today is the first day of the rest of my life.

    As the bride says —leap the net will appear

  2. @AussieAchmed

    Sounds like a plan there just hard though to make that leap!. UWA? how relaxed is that. I want to make the leap but no net there at the moment but can bide my time.

  3. ruawake

    Posted Thursday, August 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Mark McGowan ‏@MarkMcGowanMP now
    Barnetts $28 billion debt monster.
    Up from $3.6 billion when he came to office

    Hey CC whatcha gotta say bout WA debt?
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    and this is during a time of record state tax revenue, record mining royalties and 60+% increases in power & water charges.

  4. Dr Fumbles McStupid

    Posted Thursday, August 8, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    @AussieAchmed

    Sounds like a plan there just hard though to make that leap!. UWA? how relaxed is that. I want to make the leap but no net there at the moment but can bide my time.
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    The ‘net’ appeared after I made the decision to jump and was doing some ‘networking’ telling people of my decision.

  5. @AussieAchmed

    Want to do a lifestyle move here and maybe go to the Southern Island, unlikely to find a net before but a VDP would be welcome to ease the move.

  6. Suggestion Box

    What about twitterers getting to The Drum ABC24 this afternoon re the Abbott/Murdoch/Gina IPA photo.

    Please.

    ?w=363&h=513

  7. I wonder what “long term vision” Bert van Manen had when becoming an MP other than warming the back bench. I for one have never heard of him till today.

    See here, no mention of him by the Oz

    theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/former-premier-peter-beattie-to-run-in-queensland-seat/story-fn9qr68y-1226693269625

  8. The empirical research on labour market programs is inconclusive. Some concludes that subsidies do not change recruitment outcomes and are therefore wasted, but elsewhere…

    http://www.nber.org/papers/w14807

    [There is some evidence that wage subsidies increase employment and earnings, but problems of stigmatization resulting from eligibility for wage subsidy programs can dissipate the gains, and wage subsidies entail substantial administrative difficulties. Finally, a newer but growing literature on school-to-work provides some evidence that school-to-work programs boost labor market attachment, skill formation, wages, and earnings.]

    It is worth asking the LNP why they might subsidise economic activity in Tasmania, but not in Geelong, The Hunter, Elizabeth, Fishermen’s Bend or Broadmeadows.

    For mine, since their are few things more destructive than prolonged unemployment, measures to improve labour demand and supply, mobility, skills and quality as well as to modify employer recruitment and retention outcomes are all worth looking at. A more active labour market strategy is a desirable thing in itself. At the same time, this looks like the LNP is just going to throw money at a problem and expect that to provide a solution. All our experience is that economic problems are a lot more complicated than that.

  9. AA @807 – I would prefer it to be much lower.

    Perhaps if the WA GST take wasn’t being funneled to other States we’d be better off.

    So McGowan is going to criticise the Debt when his MetroNet plans would result in the same outcome – who’s going to take any notice of that sort of two faced crap.

    McGowan is a complete joke – he woulfd have critcised cancellation of the projects and he would have criticise cut backs in spending to fund them and now he is criticising the debt.

    McGowan appears to think he can have his cake and eat it. Unsuprising he was responsible for an ALP campaign that saw a signifcant swing against the ALP which resulted in the Libs getting enough seats to Govern in their own right if they wished.

    How’s McGowan polling?

  10. AussieAchmed and Dr Fumbles McStupid

    When senior management in an organisation is given untrammeled powers to move around, promote or dispense with the services of staff at their whim, then you run the risk of ending up with a lot of incompetent, knowledge-free types at all levels, but especially in middle management through to the lower levels of senior management.

    In a private company, senior management is responsible to the Board for the company’s performance, which tends to create something of a bias among senior managers towards promoting people for their expertise: generally a good thing, but sometimes a bit stultifying. The compensating factor is that the CEOs and deputies tend to move around a lot, bringing a fair bit of cross-pollination between organisations.

    In the post-1990 public sector, the bias is increasingly against expertise: because people who actually know something threaten the mediocrities (probably an overly kind description) at the middle to upper levels. Staff turnover at an ever-increasing rate, as each person moves to get away from a new person installed above them for whom they don’t want to work.

    Private sector and NGO people who deal with Canberra government departments are in despair at the seemingly ever-growing lack of knowledge of the people with whom they deal, along with the problem that, no sooner have you built up a working relationship with someone, that they are immediately replaced by a novice.

    The state governments are generally a bit better because the rate of staff turnover is a lot lower. But this sort of thing can happen there too.

  11. [Kieran Gilbert ‏@Kieran_Gilbert 10m
    ALP source: it’s close in all 8 of LNP most marginal seats but ALP ahead in 5 according to ALP internal polling #auspol #election2013 2/2
    Details
    Kieran Gilbert ‏@Kieran_Gilbert 12m
    Lib source: LNP ahead in their 8 most marginal seats in Qld according to their internal polling 1/2]

    Make of this what you will. I didn’t realise 8 seats were in play. Number 8 is Fisher.

  12. So Rudd is making up conspiracies about Murdoch – when is he going to launch corruption investigations against Abbott? – it’s the Queensland ALP style – no evidence – just make allegations until you are caught out.

  13. [Perhaps if the WA GST take wasn’t being funneled to other States we’d be better off.]

    Bwahahaahahhha. Debt Debt Debt. 😛

  14. @CC/820

    Can you tell us if Abbott/Murdoch is making the conspiracies about Labor/Rudd then?

    Why are they going hard on Rudd?

  15. @briefly

    And it looks like the benefits are for a particular cohort, early experience young workers, hence the gaining of any employment skills in the formative years is a bonus kind of the ’employment experience’..

    [It is worth asking the LNP why they might subsidise economic activity in Tasmania, but not in Geelong, The Hunter, Elizabeth, Fishermen’s Bend or Broadmeadows.]

    I think Tas is an extra special case due to the concentration of industry base, small population and small decentralized population centres. Plus there is regional disadvantages as well – e.g. NE Tas.

    At least in Geelong/Broady/Eliz there is a potential to gain employment in other regions relatively close to the industry shutdown, also there are current State programs to assist the unemployed particularity in Vic.

  16. [when is he going to launch corruption investigations against Abbott…]

    Its already happening, malfeasance in office claims referred to AFP.

  17. Crank

    To your knowledge is there or as there ever been a serious discussion about getting real about removing the real barriers to employment even if in the short it may be expensive?

  18. [I wonder what “long term vision” Bert van Manen had when becoming an MP other than warming the back bench. I for one have never heard of him till today.]

    The Coalition seems to have recruited very badly in 2010. Looking through their list of Reps newbies, I would rate them:

    * Outstanding talents: none
    * Possibly talents: Alexander, Frydenberg, Prentice, Roy, Tehan, Tudge
    * Probably duds: Andrews, Buchholz, Christensen, Griggs, Jones, Kelly, Matheson, O’Dowd, van Manen, Wyatt

  19. Compact Crank
    Posted Thursday, August 8, 2013 at 4:36 pm | PERMALINK
    So Rudd is making up conspiracies about Murdoch

    ——————
    no conspiracles
    Godwin Grech ?

    Newsltd and Turnbull were invovled in that were they not

  20. Crank,

    WA Liberal Govt = increased debt
    NSW Liberal Govt = increased debt
    VIC Liberal Govt = increased debt
    QLD Liberal Govt = increased debt
    NT Liberal Govt = increased debt

    Quite an achievement.

  21. I think I read today that David is very unhappy with Beattie’s candidacy.

    One thing that Beattie has across the country is a high recognition factor. He will help Labor in not only his electorate and across Queensland generally but also across the country. He is recognised by many as a straight shooter. That will have a small but useful effect in many electorates including mine here in Victoria.

    This will be seen (is already seen?) as a significant moment in the campaign.

  22. Shane Wright ‏@swrightwestoz 44m

    Out of WA State Budget. Net debt tipped to climb 30% in four years, big fee/tax increases. Unemployment tipped to reach 5.75% next year

  23. ruawake

    Posted Thursday, August 8, 2013 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps if the WA GST take wasn’t being funneled to other States we’d be better off.

    Bwahahaahahhha. Debt Debt Debt.
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    what was the reduction $600 million one year and $400 million this year….that does not explain a near on $25 BILLION rise in debt.

    Colon does a good job, supported by the media, in running the line – ‘it’s all the fault of the Federal Govt”.

    But he’s been well caught out on his lies and is really getting a hammering from the public. He won’t get elected again and has damaged the Liberal brand in WA.

  24. Frydenberg is an interesting one, he presents well and appears more active on the ground in Kooyong.

    Since 1996 the Liberal Party TPP margin has gone from 14% to 7.5% and at the last federal election the Liberals scored only 52% which if i am not mistaken is their lowest primary vote since the second world war.

    The Green vote in Kooyong will be worth watching.

    I think Frydenberg will be wanting to get the primary vote up to about where the TPP is.

  25. TH @829 – I’d prefer they have less debt – being reliant on Commodity prices means being subject to volatility. The Federal ALP has failed to understand that the fastest growing state needs to spend on infrastructuree but has done virtually SFA – a bit of window dresssing at best – leaving the State to fund the heavy lifting.

    Of course the ALP will now spin themselves chasing after their own tails like a deranged dog over the debt issue – although all those Keynesians out there will recognise that counter cyclical debt is supposed to be a good thing and therefore it is logical that as the resource infrstructure boom falls away this appear a logical time to take on the debt before the next resource investment cycle kicks in – which it will probably in 5 to 10 years time when debt should be paid off.

  26. Cheers ruawake.

    It’s always a mistake to rely solely on internal polling but it’s pretty clear that there are 8 seats in play in QLD.

    Labor need 6 of these for a majority IMO, to offset losses. Any less and it is super tight, and reliant on NSW and VIC losses. Any more, happy days.

  27. Crank,

    The point isn’t that WA are using debt to fund things. The point is that you have spent 4 years bashing the ALP around the ears around debt. 5 out of 5 ain’t bad.

  28. Abbott talks about an “experienced” front bench.

    Is that due to factional agreements?
    Is it due to a lack of talent on the back benches?

    Two of his “experienced” front bench
    Pyne – Education Shadow showed so much interest in his portfolio that he asked THREE questions in THREE years.

    Dutton – Health Shadow – so much interest in the portfolio he went over 1,000 days without asking a question

    That’s the talent level the Liberals have

  29. @802 – Given how the WA Prisons Department has been performing, I see it as a good thing that they have lots of outsiders brought in to clean out the corrupt and lazy.

    Withholding important information from the Minister to the extent he has to do unannounced suprise weekend visits to spot check prisons is a disgrace.

  30. I have just discovered that Tony Smith only has an estimated 1.8% over Labor in Casey.
    Maybe my vote WILL make a difference after all! 🙂

  31. [parents on 457 visas will have to pay $4000 a year to send their children to school]

    STOP THE RACISM

    STOP THE XENOPHOBIA

    STOP THE CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL

    (PS – I organised a 457 visa for someone in Darwin a few years ago and they paid a shitload more than 4 grand to send their kids to school.)

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