After a period of complaints about Newspoll’s volatility, the latest result (related as usual by James J) is all but unchanged on the last: Labor and the Coalition steady on 36% and 43%, with the Greens up one to 11%, and two-party preferred steady on 51-49. Julia Gillard’s personal ratings are likewise perfectly unchanged at 37% approval and 52% disapproval, although Tony Abbott is up three points on approval from a dire result last time to 30%, and down two on disapproval to 61%. Gillard’s lead as preferred prime minister has narrowed marginally from 46-32 to 46-33. The poll was conducted from Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1156.
UPDATE: The Courier-Mail today publishes federal voting intention results from the same Galaxy poll that produced yesterday’s state numbers. It shows Labor making a handy three point gain since the last poll in September at the direct expense of the Coalition, with the two parties at 33% and 46%. However, the Greens are down two points to 8%, which means there is only a one-point shift to Labor on two-party preferred, to 56-44.
The Herald Sun also has a JWS Research automated phone poll survey of 1391 Victorian voters conducted last Wednesday, with better results for the Baillieu government than Newspoll: the Coalition leads 48% to 38% on the primary vote and 52.1-47.9 on two-party preferred.
UPDATE 2: Essential Research has the Coalition gaining a point on the primary vote for the second successive week, now at 47%, with Labor and the Greens steady on 36% and 10%. Two-party preferred is unchanged at 53-47. Essential has also gauged support for the National Broadband Network and the Mineral Resources Rent Tax, which was very strong in each case, as well as for “the carbon pricing scheme – a tax on industries based on the amount of carbon pollution they emit”. It appears the extra detail in the question elicited stronger than usual support, which was at 46% against 44% opposed. Forty-five per cent believe a Coalition government should appeal it against 37% opposed, and 44% expect they would do so against 32% who don’t. On the question of its impact, “worse than expected” and “not as bad as expected” are both on 26%, with as expected on 36%.
@Mod Lib
So in your party you have:
Turnbull involved in something.
Bishop involving a coverup.
Abbott assaulting people during his uni days.
What does this tell you? The patheticness astounds me that someone would vote for these low lives.
@Mod Lib/7149
Your a sad person thinking that assaulting anyone is not given any justice at all.
I hate you.
Channel 7 never had any problem with alleging criminality by Thomson, Slipper, Gillard, etc. so why are they coy about Blewitt? Doesn’t fit their narrative is the simple answer – nothing to do with legal advice.
[I hate you.]
I had gathered that already.
Leroy
I disagree. What JBishop has done is a biggie. Her judgment in meeting with Blewitt disqualifies her in my opinion.
Mod Lib@7104
Big difference now that it is known that he’s dodgy.
Gillard told her boyfriend she would help set up the association because Blewitt was such a great guy. If he hadn’t been she would have told her boyfriend no way Jose.
Greensborough Growler@7128
Oh please don’t do that.
The contempt is mutual although I do reserve some for that infantile idiot friend of yours.
Mod Lib,
Why don’t you prescribe something Abbott wouldn’t put on the NDS to make you feel better.
GG
Spent some time picking Mangos in Katherine a few years ago, fresh as you can get and with fresh cream, droll factor +10
[Greensborough Growler
Posted Friday, November 30, 2012 at 11:06 pm | PERMALINK
Mod Lib,
Why don’t you prescribe something Abbott wouldn’t put on the NDS to make you feel better.]
A doctor who treats themself has a fool for a patient.
[Ah ha.
So it is evidence]
Yep.
Blewitt admits to being a fraudster, yet JBishop talks to him not once, but twice nonetheless.
The matter of who paid for Blewitt to come here is still unresolved, and could still blow up in the Liberals’ faces.
I reckon Colin Powell will get a job in the Obama administration.
You heard it here first dudes and dudettes.
Augustus,
My only real crime in life was as a youth living in Queensland blowing up luscious mangoes from ours and our neighbours trees with an air gun.
victoria – nothing big will happen to Julie Bishop. No seat loss, no job loss, not this term. May impact her behind the scene in the Libs.
People on each side overestimates the possible impact of any “scandal” or incident on their enemies, but nearly everything just blows over with time.
try drool not droll too much scottish barley water tonight.
Mod Lib,
Why don’t you prescribe something Abbott wouldn’t put on the NDS to make you feel better.
@Mod lib/7154
The problem with you is that your allowing your personal judgment to be effected instead of allowing justice to take it’s course.
Mod Lib@7143
Yes, white collar crims are a bit more sophisticated.
What’s more, Bishop herself in her presser said Blewitt was a fraudster.
Gillard can at least claim that she didn’t know that…and he was a friend of her boyfriend (some of my husband’s friends have been a bit odd….I’d hate to think that that means my association with my husband is thus suspect…)
zoomster@7067
The main problem was that oppositions generally don’t do what the Coalition did under Abbott. And to be honest, it looked stupid to all of us at first. It’s hard to imagine that an opposition will basically offer nothing and say no to everything. It wasn’t that long since the ALP in opposition under Rudd had succeeded with a very different approach – which was to agree with everything except a few key areas where the ALP had an advantage.
I’m still trying to recall the term, but what happened is that, because the Liberals had no policy on the table, they were free to criticise the ALP from any point of view they liked. From the left, from the right, from the middle, from nowhere at all. When they said “the pink batts scheme costs lives” those six words summed up their entire philosophy on the matter. Same thing when they said, “the BER is a waste of money”.
They really just set themselves up as an arm of the media, providing damning assessments of the ALP. If they wre ever asked what their policy would have been, the response was generally, “we wouldn’t do that”. Any further scrutiny as to what they meant by that, and they’d simply refer to the Howard era.
It’s very difficult to counter that. Even if you’re prepared for it. What they’re saying is, “don’t vote for the ALP”. All the ALP can do to counter it is to give reasons to vote for the ALP.
I’d argue they’ve done that now. They’ve got a track record that they can point to, which they didn’t have in 2010. It’s a bit unfair on Rudd to say that, but when your entire term has been spent countering the GFC – something governments never get any credit for – you end up with no positives to point to, just negatives that didn’t happen.
The Coalition ran the most cynical, destructive campaign possible, at a time when it was likeliest to succeed. Those days are over, and yet they’re still trying to run that campaign.
I think a party with fresh ideas and a forward-thinking approach would have a good chance of beating the ALP in 2013. A lot has been achieved and there’s a question mark as to what the ALP would bring to the next term. But the Coalition haven’t got a clue how to do that. It doesn’t matter who leads them. They’re moribund.
confessions
“The matter of who paid for Blewitt to come here is still unresolved, and could still blow up in the Liberals’ faces.”
try a Liberal connection or two, given Bishop was on the phone to him not long after landing, Grechism.
Fair crack of the saucebottle
Bishop only spoke to him because
a – she accidentally ran into boofhead in the middle of city of 4 million souls….kismet!!
b – someone rang her phone and a mystery voice appeared…BUT IT DROPPED OUT….honest….you guys are just so cynical here
Kinkajou
“you guys are just so cynical here”
guilty 🙂
Kinkajou,
Melbourne’s more Brigadoon than Kismet. A cloud dropping out of the blue to obscure everything is de rigeur for us.
@Aguirre/7171
But the point of the polling is that people are fed up with the destruction attitude.
There is one difference that Labor Minority government has is the incumbency and pushing through bills.
And That’s why the Coalition are afraid of 2013 election and that’s why they have been on this Destructive course since abbott took over.
[zoidlord
Posted Friday, November 30, 2012 at 11:11 pm | PERMALINK
@Mod lib/7154
The problem with you is that your allowing your personal judgment to be effected instead of allowing justice to take it’s course.]
Sorry….I just had to pause for a few minutes before posting a reply.
Can I clarify?
You are claiming that I am allowing my personal judgement to be affected instead of allowing justice and you refer to a post in which you tell me that you hate me?
confessionsn & Augustus – we do know who brought him out
http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/latest/a/-/latest/15525746/awu-fraudster-s-sister-goes-public/
[RILEY: Ralph Blewitt has flown back to Malaysia. The man who financed his trip to Canberra, researcher Harry Nowicki, said today that Ms Lennon was just ‘attacking his mate’s character’.]
Mod Lib
It looks like Susan Rice has run into some heavy interference as SOS. John Kerry or Thomas Donilon look a safer bet.
Sam Power is a possible. She would be my pick if I could choose.
Leroy
I dont expect a job loss for JBishop either. But i repeat that J Bishop was questioning JG in QT yesterday re witnessing POA for Blewitt. Blewitt is asserting that JG did not witness his signature. Therefore Bishop is taking his word over the PM. Her judgment is shot
@Mod lib/7177
Yes and? Because you are not allowing natural justice to take place – that’s why I hate you.
I would not give up on Susan Rice.
Adding Colin Powell dampens the criticism of Susan Rice as they both argued incorrect cases in public, so if the Republicans criticise one they would need to criticise the other.
If they criticise Obama, Rice and Powell they are not going to improve their standing from the current 8% of black voters!
Rice + Powell I reckon.
zoidlord
No need for the hate word in this discussion
Kinkajou@7173
So Blewitt was with someone who already had JB’s mobile number. Wonder how he got that?? 🙂
[zoidlord
Posted Friday, November 30, 2012 at 11:20 pm | PERMALINK
@Mod lib/7177
Yes and? Because you are not allowing natural justice to take place – that’s why I hate you.]
I get it now.
I will try to avoid personal judgements in the future.
Thanks for the tip.
victoria – I agree with you about all of that. It won’t matter by the next election, or in a couple of weeks. She is damaged within the party though. She was given a job to do and she stuffed it.
The story is that she was rung by someone else (Michael Smith?) who put Blewitt on the phone.
@Victoria/7183
It’s not something I usually use – infact I rarely say anything in these matters.
But politics is an all time low around Australia – especially where I live in QLD and newman destroying the joint – wasting millions of tax payers money.
Leroy
Agreed. On that note night all
Leroy
you mean this bloke
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/the-men-behind-pms-hellish-week-20120825-24t6y.html
anyone remember Norm Gallagher
night victoria
zoidlord
I understand your frustration, but hating is really not necessary. Pretty please.
Anyhow, calling it a night. Catch u guys on the flipside
[The story is that she was rung by someone else (Michael Smith?) who put Blewitt on the phone.]
Yup, and why would someone who was close enough to Blewitt to “hang out with him” , also be close enough to Julie Bishop to have her actual mobile number??
GG
I know> Im from there.
I suspect blue penetrating the cloud might be a more Melbourne gestalt
Mod Lib hasn’t got a clue either. That list is hopeless. it’s just a list of things the Liberals can talk about. Have a look at it:
[1. AWU stench
2. Thomson stench (links with above)
3. The Prima Donnas in this AWU issue are likely to keep feeding the attention
4. No surplus (another question from Wyatt ya reckon?
5. Rudd staying silent? Yeah right!
6. Where is the money coming from: Gonski
7. Where is the money coming from: NDIS
8. NBN not meeting targets
9. NBN blowing out in costs
10. Electricity prices going up]
It’s actually about 5 or 6 things, not 10. And most of them will get no traction.
AWU – what’s new? One major criticism of the ALP is that they’ve moved too far to the right. That being the case, they don’t ‘own’ union issues to any great extent. The Libs can hammer away all they like, it won’t do any damage. They’re doing their best to tie this Gillard conveyancing issue with union bashing in general, and failing miserably.
Surplus – being talked about far more than it needs to be. It’s all within the context of a strong economy. The imperative right now is for the Liberals to re-establish their economic credentials. They might get a brief hit if there is no surplus – for a week, maybe.
Rudd – not likely. Gillard is popular among her own MPs, and gaining ground with the electorate at large. Her sexism speech was a game changer, and she’s now seen as a legitimate PM. That kills off Rudd challenges full stop.
Where’s the money coming from? – An effective question. But it will only do damage if the economy turns south. And if it does, you can bet that a lot more attention will be paid to Coalition economic policy. They won’t be allowed to get away with paying lip service to cost cutting aspirations.
NBN – No. Everybody wants the NBN now. There’s no effective line the Coalition can run against it. They didn’t want it, and everyone knows that.
Electricity Bills – You have got to be kidding me. The Liberals have to lie about them in Parliament to even get a question up.
Seriously, if that’s the list of issues the Liberals have to play with, they may as well give it up right now. There’s not one killer attack line in there.
@Victoria/7192
Apology to Mod lib then is in order. I do blow my top sometimes – just annoyed that PM is not given fair justice when at least 3 people in the Opposition have been involved in some type of possible illegal activity.
zoidlord
Thanks. 🙂
Good night for real this time
vic
Hate drips off every page of PB, although not normally towards each other.
In the words of MLK “Let no man pull you so low as to hate him.”
[There’s not one killer attack line in there.]
Agreed….no killer attack lines, just the same old ones that have done the damage to the ALP and the ALP brand in recent times.
Remember that the ALP needs to win over hundreds of thousands of voters from their current views today. The LNP doesn’t need to win anyone extra over.
Status quo = landslide win.
TheKooriWoman @TheKooriWoman
All respect for the Walkleys now gone. The Project won for tv journalism. Good night, and good luck ppl. Mediocrity is the new excellence.