After a period of complaints about Newspoll’s volatility, the latest result (related as usual by James J) is all but unchanged on the last: Labor and the Coalition steady on 36% and 43%, with the Greens up one to 11%, and two-party preferred steady on 51-49. Julia Gillard’s personal ratings are likewise perfectly unchanged at 37% approval and 52% disapproval, although Tony Abbott is up three points on approval from a dire result last time to 30%, and down two on disapproval to 61%. Gillard’s lead as preferred prime minister has narrowed marginally from 46-32 to 46-33. The poll was conducted from Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1156.
UPDATE: The Courier-Mail today publishes federal voting intention results from the same Galaxy poll that produced yesterday’s state numbers. It shows Labor making a handy three point gain since the last poll in September at the direct expense of the Coalition, with the two parties at 33% and 46%. However, the Greens are down two points to 8%, which means there is only a one-point shift to Labor on two-party preferred, to 56-44.
The Herald Sun also has a JWS Research automated phone poll survey of 1391 Victorian voters conducted last Wednesday, with better results for the Baillieu government than Newspoll: the Coalition leads 48% to 38% on the primary vote and 52.1-47.9 on two-party preferred.
UPDATE 2: Essential Research has the Coalition gaining a point on the primary vote for the second successive week, now at 47%, with Labor and the Greens steady on 36% and 10%. Two-party preferred is unchanged at 53-47. Essential has also gauged support for the National Broadband Network and the Mineral Resources Rent Tax, which was very strong in each case, as well as for “the carbon pricing scheme – a tax on industries based on the amount of carbon pollution they emit”. It appears the extra detail in the question elicited stronger than usual support, which was at 46% against 44% opposed. Forty-five per cent believe a Coalition government should appeal it against 37% opposed, and 44% expect they would do so against 32% who don’t. On the question of its impact, “worse than expected” and “not as bad as expected” are both on 26%, with as expected on 36%.
keep getting booted when I try to post testing
Greensborough Growler@7080
Why so sad and bitter GG?
Nelson was nominally Catholic and taught by the Js
BB:
Do you guys realise that if you are scathing about Bishop for talking to Blewitt for a few minutes you should be orders of magnitude more scathing about Gillard doing secret favours for Blewitt without telling her law partners?
Hoist by your own petards! 🙂
and…
[1. AWU stench
2. Thomson stench (links with above)
3. The Prima Donnas in this AWU issue are likely to keep feeding the attention]
All of these have had as much impact as they’re going to have. The public has made their mind up – one way or another – and moved on.
[4. No surplus (another question from Wyatt ya reckon?]
You’d think a student of the US election would understand that the voting public don’t particularly care about surpluses, delivered or otherwise.
I approve of Labor aiming for a surplus, because it’s a target – and a target is necessary for fiscal discipline. But most people don’t give a hoot (and that is a fact proved by statistics, not an opinion).
[5. Rudd staying silent? Yeah right!]
Again, Rudd has no surprises left in him. If revelations about the leadership change were going to have an impact, we’d have seen that after Tanner’s book. And McKew’s.
We didn’t, and we won’t – again, because anyone who is at all interested in the issue have made up their minds, and will view anything Rudd says through that prism.
[6. Where is the money coming from: Gonski
7. Where is the money coming from: NDIS]
See comments re surplus.
Again, if these questions were concerning people, that’d be already showing up in the polls. It’s not like they haven’t been out there.
Most people have the same reaction as the disabled advocate on last Q and A – if it needs to be done, let’s get on with it.
Labor has already faced a couple of these ‘how are you going to pay for it?” scenarios. Each time, they’ve found a way to fund whatever it is – and evidently, to the satisfaction of at least 49% of the electorate.
[8. NBN not meeting targets
9. NBN blowing out in costs]
These are predictions which have been made nearly as often as those of Julia’s demise.
People don’t care. They understand infrastructure costs money and that projects take time. They want the NBN.
Their alternative is not getting it.
[10. Electricity prices going up]
State problem. The Feds (both sides) are doing a very good job of buckpassing on this one.
“Don’t believe what people say, look at what they actually do”.
Currently, they elect Labor Government’s Federally.
Wishful thinking on your behalf is not going to change that.
Working again, now where was I, thats right
Psephos
Yes, I am being over hopefull about the ALP being back in government by next election and it will take time, what I am hoping for is that the state ALP has had its cathartic moment.
@Mod Lib/7104
The issue is:
1. The Contents of that.
2. Discussions with known fraudster.
3. Discussions that maybe subject under law.
And I can probably come up with a few other reasons too.
Kinkajou
Apologies, but every time I see your name the name of this song comes to mind. 🙂
[Coo Ca Choo ]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Y93Qucbt0
ML, that was a good choice NOT to touch on that (so to speak) since to do so would have made you look like a complete Fox News twit saying the sorts of things the Tea Party says to make itself feel better … .
Problems with leadership for the PM about a vote about observer status for palestine?? Get your hand off it. we expect better of you, really. Please tell me you havent taken a job at the Daily Tele!!
[Greensborough Growler
Posted Friday, November 30, 2012 at 10:38 pm | PERMALINK
“Don’t believe what people say, look at what they actually do”.
Currently, they elect Labor Government’s Federally.]
And there have been huge swings and/or over-performance of the Liberal Party in every election since.
[Yes I can see the next Queensland delegation at a National Conference with Feeney carrying the Queensland Flag of a chicken on a yellow flag.]
Can I point out that Feeney and “feeney” are two different people? That one is a real politician and the other is someone’s pseudonym? And that defaming real people is generally not a good idea?
[Do you guys realise that if you are scathing about Bishop for talking to Blewitt for a few minutes you should be orders of magnitude more scathing about Gillard doing secret favours for Blewitt without telling her law partners?]
There’s no evidence Gillard “did secret favours for Blewitt”.
However JBishop is deputy leader of the federal Liberal party.
Loving the disconnect from Liberals over this.
“Turnbull is interesting on the TV” – maybe we have different makes of TV sets, Deblonay.
GG
Raspberries to you :p
ModLib
[Don’t believe what people say, look at what they actually do]
If you applied that test to Turnbull, he’d fail miserably.
He’s walked away from the Republic.
He makes nice noises about gay marriage but it’s not backed with any kind of action.
He’s happy to trash the NBN, in the face of expert opinion, because it suits him to politically.
etc.
Turnbull is just a slick version of Rabbott.
Mod Lib,
Hold on to what ever it is that you are holding on to. It seems to give you great pleasure.
[confessions
Posted Friday, November 30, 2012 at 10:42 pm | PERMALINK
Do you guys realise that if you are scathing about Bishop for talking to Blewitt for a few minutes you should be orders of magnitude more scathing about Gillard doing secret favours for Blewitt without telling her law partners?
There’s no evidence Gillard “did secret favours for Blewitt”]
She assisted him and her ex boyfriend to set up some entity and didn’t tell her legal firm what she was doing.
There is nothing necessarily illegal there, I grant you that, and Abbott and Bishop have made the classic mistake of over-reach, again, agreed. However, any character assasination of Blewitt just raises the question: If he was so bad why was Gillard associating with him?
http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/30/lawyers-on-gillard-awu-action-less-than-kosher-but-not-unusual/
[Gillard’s legal practices ‘less than kosher’ but not unusual: lawyers
Kate Gibbs | Nov 30, 2012 12:35PM
Was Julia Gillard’s behaviour as a lawyer acceptable or not? Legal affairs reporter Kate Gibbs asks some lawyers whether she breached any rules in working with the union and her partner.
It’s been labelled a “smear campaign”, a “squalid affair”, a “witch hunt” and the most drawn-out act of politics this year. But the Coalition’s interrogation of the Prime Minister about her time spent as a lawyer 17 years ago has achieved something: it’s confused everyone about the ethics, best practice and legalities of the practice of law.]
The Godwin moment cometh. What were the Libs thinking? Will they ever learn?
“Mod Lib,
Hold on to what ever it is that you are holding on to. It seems to give you great pleasure.”
Coolaid
Augustus,
Raspberries are without doubt, my favourite berry fruit.
So, heave away. I have a very big catching mit.
http://www.walkleys.com/files/media/MediaRelease_WalkleyAwardWinners_2012.pdf
[PENNELLS CLAIMS GOLD WALKLEY AWARD]
includes full list
@Mod Lib/7119
You must be reading into too much Phillip Coorey.
GG
with whipped or fresh cream
Tom Hawkins@7083
I bloody well hope not! If it in anyway is related to what his former wife alleged, there could be people who deserve the utmost respect of their privacy and who under no circumstances should be dragged into this particular political gutter.
A line of decency has to be drawn somewhere.
So Mod Lib has never associated with a dodgy character in the last twenty years.
Another reason to treat his political pronunciations with the contempt I usually reserve for Bemused.
[A line of decency has to be drawn somewhere.]
Abbott’s walked all over that line so far.
[ If he was so bad why was Gillard associating with him?]
It was 20 years ago.
Which comes back to my point. If Blewitt was/is so bad, why is the deputy leader of today’s Liberal party a) admitting to having talked to him in 2012, and b) covering up to having spoken to him a second time when it’s patently obvious she did?
Augustus,
Yes, please!
Augustus # 7115: you mean these raspberries?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mFUYm5QFUE
I should add that despite the resemblance in the shots around 0.25 – 0.40 my friend Bob Debus is not the drummer
If Lady Walkley had any judgement she would not give out any awards this year, since the Australian media has been utterly abysmal all year: lazy, partisan, corrupt, careless, ignorant, triva-obsessed, dishonest and unethical.
[confessions
Posted Friday, November 30, 2012 at 10:53 pm | PERMALINK
If he was so bad why was Gillard associating with him?
It was 20 years ago.]
Would you mind directing me to your posts about why Abbott punching a wall was no important as it was so long ago please?
Its just that I don’t recall them.
GG
Just for you
ptmd
I’m assuming that the creeps’ sister will want him pursued and punished. It sounds like seven are the ones holding off ATM. Legals possibly.
Poroti
No offence taken. Latin potus flavus for the stinky little procyonid that i have adopted for reasons unknown even to me…something about the nose…we may be related or at least anagrammable
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinkajou)
I might make an exception for Mr Firstdog Onthemoon, because although his cartoons are predictable in taking the Standard Left Line on everything, they are least funny.
@Mod LIb/7134
Assaulting people is should never be forgiven.
Mod Lib@7119
I try to treat you with respect Mod, but when you descend into such idiocy it it hard.
“She assisted him and her ex boyfriend to set up some entity and didn’t tell her legal firm what she was doing.”
That entity was an Incorporated Association which anyone can set up even without a lawyer. Do you really expect her to report every piece of trivia to the head of the firm?
“However, any character assasination of Blewitt just raises the question: If he was so bad why was Gillard associating with him?”
Um… let me guess. She didn’t directly. The connection was via her boyfriend and she only found out later they were both a bit dodgy.
Have you never encountered anyone who turned out to be a bit dodgy? Must be lots of them in the Liberal Party.
MM,
Good get!
MM
I had forgotten all about them, thanks
[Have you never encountered anyone who turned out to be a bit dodgy? Must be lots of them in the Liberal Party.]
I don’t have any friends who bury money in plastic bags in the backyard…must be a union thing I guess.
[ If he was so bad why was Gillard associating with him?]
The difference: The PM wasn’t aware that Blewitt was involved in fraud or other questionable behaviour.
The PM disassociated herself from her partner and associates when her suspicions were raised.
The Coalition however, colluded with a self confessed fraudster who was seeking immunity from charges of goodness knows what.
[Its just that I don’t recall them.]
Abbott reportedly punched the wall and with witnesses aplenty to say he did.
No such direct evidence exists against the PM.
Mod Lib
I again repeat that Mr Blewitt’s sister cautioned JBIshop on Perth Radio a few months about not trusting what her brother has to say as he is a crook, liar, scumbag etc. which begs the question, why did Bishop talk with blewitt on the phone and then come to Melbourne to meet him to see if he had anything to pin on the PM. As I said earlier, at least Turnbull was dealing with what appeared to be a dutiful public servant. Turnbull was not to my knowledge ever warned that Grech may have been unhinged. On the other hand, JBishop was warned. Yet she was prepared to meet with a self confessed liar and fraudster.
The main thing about any Blewitt revelations is that they destroy his credibility. They’ve been building up for a while, going back to dodgy land deals in Indonesia and so on, Vexnews info, alledged fraud of the construction companies (and maybe Wilson, who seems pretty broke). 20 years ago he didn’t have a public record like that, but was still dodgy, just not well known for it.
It won’t affect Bishop much, except making her look like a goose, but that’s no biggie.
Kinkajous are sometimes kept as exotic pets. They are playful, generally quiet, docile, and have little odor. However, they can occasionally be aggressive. Kinkajous dislike sudden movements, noise, and being awake during the day. An agitated kinkajou may emit a scream and attack, usually clawing its victim and sometimes biting deeply. It has recently been discovered that pet kinkajous in the United States can be carriers of the roundworm Baylisascaris procyonis, which is capable of causing severe morbidity and even death in the owner, if infected
Ah ha.
So it is evidence, not the length of time then?
Augustus,
As you are now in to slavishly entertaining my every desire, could you move your research to mangoes which are Mrs Growler’s sustenance through summer.