Morgan’s latest weekly face-to-face poll has the Labor primary vote falling a point on last week to 30 per cent, which I believe to be an all-time low in a series noted for being biased in their favour. The Coalition is up one to 47.5 per cent, with the Greens down half to 12 per cent. Labor has improved slightly on the headline respondent-allocated two-party preferred measure, on which the Coalition leads 58.5-41.5 (59.5-40.5), but gone backwards on the methodologically preferable previous election measure (from 55-45 to 56-44).
Now they are looking at windfarms.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/twoonthegreatdivide.htm
[In the tradition of Two Men in a Tinnie and Two in the Top End, satirist John Doyle and
environmentalist Tim Flannery travel along the Great Dividing Range by car, by foot, by boat
and by air, and endeavour to climb six of the most important spectacular peaks along the
range.]
Is it just me or has Twitter gone into meltdown?
This poll does Galaxy little credit. They might have well asked is the PM a smelly ranga with girl germs.
Danny
Looks like Twitter is stuffed at the moment.
[Space Kidette
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Joe6pk,
As twitter/PB etc represents a microcosm, so do the people you and I interact with. None indicate the entire picture and represent a snapshot in time. No one truly knows exactly what the future has in store or the outcome.]
Maybe , and I do apologise for maybe going off a bit about social media . Etc. but I think some people may put too much importance on it atm.
remember most of my views. comments come from blue,collar. I dont care about politics people, and i am passing them on.
Until sog. then nsw/ stuart are losers
r1000
[This poll does Galaxy little credit.]
Why?
Do you have evidence that they have tampered with the design of the interview, the sampling methodology in some way that casts doubt on the reliability and validity of the results?
Just watching the late version of Insiders.
Wilke is very much not to be trusted think i. He’s going to try and grandstand over some aspect of the Budget i think.
roaldon 1000 @3253,
Any reference to what they asked in the poll or is there a link
?
cheers
Now Doyle and Flannery taking the mickey out of poker machines.
Joe6pack/3255
Surely? Twitter does as much damage of not more than traditional media – so it’s important that be careful when they are on it.
Remember the world is watching it – not just Australia.
[latika Bourke Finding the worse the Govt performs the stupider the Twitter bile. RT @mulgabob: @latikambourke Have you got the hot’s for Tony ??????]
oh yipee
[Latika Bourke MT @mjrowland68: On @BreakfastNews… We’re joined by Opp. Leader Tony Abbott and Trade Minister Craig Emerson.]
[Perhaps Labor could get Obama to do the voice-overs on the policy announcements?]
Dio,
Excellent idea!!
Seriously though, Obama is the most gifted politician I have ever seen.
i
Mr Wilkie had a deal. Ms Gillard welched on the deal. Mr Wilkie announced, therefore, that there was no deal.
Mr Wilkie now owes nobody, except perhaps the constituents of his electorate, anything. At all.
He is a free agent. Since grandstanding is part and parcel of normal politics, it is unreasonable to expect Mr Wilkie not to do some grandstanding.
The Galaxy Poll tables:
http://bit.ly/IhcxbV
It is amazing that Latika cannot see how pathetic the msm has behaved this week in particular. They really do suffer from groupthink. It is absolutely frightening how much they believe their own crap
Bit disappointed in andrew elder’s column.
Trying to make out that FWA (among a usual Lib union bash – light for a Lib, ex-Lib) is responsible for the HSU crap.
It’s was Abbott’s IR legislation, amended and rebadged as FWA to remove the more draconian workchoices measures that prevented FWA from doing anything other than a report because the section that could have dealt with corporate (and therefore HSU) breaches was retained holus bolus. It had no punitive powers at all.
Let’s not forget it was put there to protect Howard’s mates in the first place.
To blame Shorten for not acknowledging this, and to make out that his support of JG when he hadn’t heard what she’d said has now sidelined him is nothing short of hysteria.
(Just watched the offending tape, and FCS it’s okay, nothing like I’d imagined it. Thought he’d broken down and cried by all the crappola being reported).
Couple elder’s post with a political commentator from some QU (on ABC24 earlier today) who says JG has to own the FWA legislation because she amended the Howard junk it just makes all the commentary a total piss-take.,
victoria
Never seen those two going head to head – ah, no, of course, Abbott will be pre-recorded.
[Harry “Snapper” Organs
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Joe6pack,
Do you think there is any way that people could become aware that there are powerful forces out to do in this government for their own ends and to the detriment of the interests of the people?]
Nope sorry.
i have said before and will say again the number 1 issue that will see the lying crappy scum be the next pm. will be the carbon tax .
take that away and JG. has a shot.
With it every price rise is just a free kick to the coalation
don @ 3167
Great post! A dose of reality.
hmmm.. where are those bomb shelter keys… i saw ’em here somewhere on Friday… grumbe grumble…
I had (actually still have) a twitter account but just don’t have the time to keep track of it.
At the end of the day most of the stuff there doesn’t matter either.
The Phoney war between Labor and Murdoch is over.
Gillard should give up dropping leaflets and start dropping bombs.
Collateral damage? A shame, but there you go: this is War.
Absolutely, BB!
I saw a tweet that the Galaxy poll was 900 instead of 1200 and was taken from people doing a consumer survey or somesuch. Does that put a different take on the figures?
“Embattled”, “beleagured” are NOT words to include in what is supposed to be a news report. What is a report? It should be a statement of facts, and should not include the insertion of judgemental descriptions.
Thus the words “Embattled Thomson suspended from Labor Party” (abc.net.au) or “Beleageured Speaker Peter Slipper has agreed to make way…” (theaustralian.com.au) or “Julia Gillard asks embattled MPs Craig Thomson and Peter Slipper to step aside” (theage.com.au) are NOT reports.
They demonstrate the use of bias/spin/manipulation by the commercial media and the ABC in order to influence the way Australian people (that’s you and me) think about issues.
Don’t know why there’s such angst today. It’s been a good day overall.
*The PM has resolved a couple of tricky situations which may now give the budget a cleaer run.
*Abbott and Pyne have made fools of themselves, as usual.
*Uhlmann has alienated more viewers (when will Mark Scott wake up?)
PB has been quite entertaining, from a distance 😆
ALP spanked in local elections… i said yesterday i thought state election was just an entree… hopefully two votes in quick succession has taken some of the sting out of queenslanders.
Boinzo @ 3209
Lucky you! Do you know feeney form PB?
It is no good being part of a herd that has got it wrong. Better to try to persuade and possibly change opinions.
I did this at work years ago in relation to the Y2K scam when I saved my employer millions by challenging conventional wisdom and being proven right.
Joe6pack, thanks for your response. Very depressing, I think. This boils down to people being seriously misinformed about what is going to happen to them and their children and grandchildren due to climate change.
Not to mention the horrible effect of Murdoch and his regime changing.
[Thus the words “Embattled Thomson suspended from Labor Party” (abc.net.au) or “Beleageured Speaker Peter Slipper has agreed to make way…” (theaustralian.com.au) or “Julia Gillard asks embattled MPs Craig Thomson and Peter Slipper to step aside” (theage.com.au) are NOT reports.]
The hypocritical Tony Abbott and the pathetic Christopher Pyne today defended the odious Sophie Mirabella.
How does that sound for balance?
BB. they are fighting words i like to hear. they have nothing to lose now.
I expect the polls to be dreadful for a while. There will be no joy there for the ALP. 🙁
BK, it sounds to me like gospel truth.
Joe6pk,
I am happy for people to decide for themselves what govt they prefer. However, my fear is that vested interests are obtaining block votes via deception or should I say media misinformation and manipulation.
To me that is the beginning of the end of democracy.
BK
I missed Abbott’s defence of Mirabella. Can you elaborate? Thanks
Good evening fiona. Have I seen you around here before?
latest galaxy Lnp 56 Alp 44 – considering the shits that have been thrown by #MSMHACKS & #TheirABC at the Govt, this is kinda BISON like 👿
vic
I was just using the line as an example of the stupid use of pejorative adjectives.
zoomster @ 3212
That is a great article you linked to. I join you in recommending everyone read it and learn as much as you can ready to challenge the Fibs.
There is an implicit assumption when Fibs challenge anything on cost that the alternative is painless and costs nothing. This is of course rubbish and in many cases the Fibs option is either more expensive or delivers a lot less.
[Surely? Twitter does as much damage of not more than traditional media – so it’s important that be careful when they are on it.
Remember the world is watching it – not just Australia.]
Look . good on you twitter people if that is your thing, but atm. I dont think it makes 1 iota of diff.
As far as the world watching Aus. Most won’t know where it is nor would they care
BK
I am a bit slow tonight!
[Paul Howes @howespaul
Laughing at the amount of hate spewing from right wing trolls in response to my column today #provingmypointbozos http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/cheap-shots-after-breivik-massacre-are-sick-says-paul-howes/story-e6frezz0-1226341529508
Latika Bourke Latika Bourke @latikambourke
@howespaul that is an excellent hashtag!]
What papers will the Galaxy be in? News tabloids?
@joe6pack/3291
Murdoch seems to know where we are – be afraid very afraid.
Twitter is truly a “disruptive media”, that’s why #MSMhacks like Rupert cant handle it
[Good evening fiona. Have I seen you around here before?]
BK,
Is that the line you used on Sophie?
spur212 @ 3226
Pretty much how I feel.
Boinzo@3209:
Come now.
Any pollster who thought that this blog was a representative sample of broader society should be out on their ear immediately, and sent to look for a less mathematically demanding job asking ‘do you want fries with that’.
It is hard to think of a less representative subsection of australian society.
Thoughts expressed here are not valid representations of anything except for what, for the most part, articulate labor leaning people think about politics.
I learn here a lot about the australian political scene that I could never learn anywhere else.
Doesn’t mean that what is said here changes public opinion one jot.
BK, I have lurked for a while, but have only been commenting for the last few days. However, I am, and have been, “active” elsewhere for eight or nine years 🙂