The Courier-Mail brings a Galaxy poll of Queensland respondents which shows the Coalition with an imposing 59-41 lead on two-party preferred. This points to a 4 per cent swing compared with the state’s result at the election (55.1-44.9), which is entirely in line with the general picture of national polling. On the primary vote the Coalition is almost doubling Labor, with a lead of 53 per cent to 28 per cent. Even more remarkable is the scale of Julia Gillard’s unpopularity in Queensland: she is favoured as Labor leader by just 19 per cent of respondents compared with 59 per cent for Kevin Rudd, compared with 44 per cent and 33 per cent at the previous such poll in February (Wayne Swan has also dropped from 15 per cent to 9 per cent since then). We are variously told “Tony Abbott has pulled in front of Ms Gillard as preferred prime minister by a strong 16 percentage point margin”, and that “Mr Abbott has pulled ahead of Ms Gillard as preferred prime minister by 53 per cent to 47 per cent”. Hopefully the print edition will clear things up.
UPDATE: JWS Research now has full results from its post-budget automated phone poll of the 20 most marginal seats, which collectively showed an 8 per cent swing to the Coalition since the election. It points to an exacerbation of the state-level divide recorded at the election, with Coalition swings of 8.8 per cent swings in the NSW seats covered (Reid, Banks, Lindsay, Robertson, Greenway, Macquarie) and 9.8 per cent in the Queensland seats
(Petrie, Moreton, Brisbane, Forde, Longman), but only 3.6 per cent in the Victorian seats (Deakin, La Trobe, Corangamite, Dunkley, Aston). Much further detailed is offered in the link, from which Spur212 in comments notes Tony Abbott’s astoundingly poor personal ratings among “soft” and anti-Coalition voters: his net approval is minus 35 among all soft voters, minus 74 among supporters of the opposing major party, minus 63 among minor party/independent supporters and minus 42 among the undecided. The respective figures for Julia Gillard are plus 1, minus 64, plus 3 and minus 12.
[why do people without science degrees disagree with science.?]
Bumper sticker of the week My Say!
Dee @ 1793
I’ll second that.
I always thought my recall of past events was pretty good, but OPT leaves me for dead. She also writes very well too.
There is a lot of coverage on the ABC re the climate report including a link to its contents
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/23/3224009.htm
So, the scientific Climate Commission releases a report confirming sustained global warming, and the opposition splits down its denialism fault-line. First Barnaby to rubbish the report and show his ignorance, and now Minchin. No doubt Dennis Jensen will be next.
This is very good news for the govt. Since the announcement of a carbon price, Abbott has been able to contain the denialists in the party with a plea to focus on the policy, not the science. I wonder if this speaking out is a reflection of the wider tensions in the party over direction and leadership?
[Sky showing footage of what appear to be collapsing glacier fronts ]
mm this is strange,
also strange we have so far our hottest ever may 19. 18. 21. 18 today so far but now cloudy heating all off
1803.. well the new board is getting broader
Jensen’s comment – earth not getting warmer – is in the ABC report near the end.
confessions
Dennis Jensen has already spoken. saw him on ABC news. He said something about a meteorite hitting earth one day!
OzPol Tragic @ 1701:
There are four occasions in the distant past which I remember where I was & what I was doing:
1.21/22 Nov. ’63 – Gerringong (playing cricket)
2.19/20 July. ’69 – Nowra (at work watching it land)
3. 02 Dec. ’72 – Fremantle (celebrating at Stella Maris Club)
4. 11 Nov. ’75 – Sydney (commiserating in the Rex Hotel, Kings Cross)
I found the Dismissal particularly hard to take as almost all of my work colleagues were very much of the Tory bent. To let off a bit of steam, though, I attended the rally in Hyde Park, Sydney, which was a bit daring as being political in my former profession in those days was not the done thing.
Unlike you I’ve still not forgiven Fraser – even though he’s done much to repair his damaged reputation, culminating in his resignation from the Liberal Party.
And unlike you I wasn’t interested in budget deficits; in fact I didn’t then know what a budget deficit was. All I was interested in was the raw politics: the duplicity of Kerr and the sheer smugness and audacity of Fraser & his ilk.
Many on this site claim media bias and I think they’re right. I see the 4th Estate as having an agenda which is very similar to the relentless campaign waged against the ALP leading up to the Dismissal. It really is for me a case of deja vu but this time the media is far more pervasive.
Of course, the current circumstances are different to ’75. But the Coalition, aided by a biased media, are creating the impression that the Government is in crisis. Accordingly, I’m afraid, unlike you again, I must ‘Maintain the Rage.’
Incidentally, Gough turns 95 on 11 July.
[Dennis Jensen has already spoken. saw him on ABC news. He said something about a meteorite hitting earth one day!]
Good grief!
Wasn’t Mt Wellington unusually snow covered last year, my say.
Just an impression I had.
victoria:
No! How did I miss that? 😆
This is even better news! The denialism tri-fecta from the coalition. Abbott is surely losing control of his partyroom.
victoria I know what you mean, I persisted to try and learn something new from the Opposition, no chance. They really have plummeted to the depths of insignificance. All they have left is this chestnut, pink batts, plus an attempt to keep the asylum seekers detention conditions alive as a new thread, the boats issue almost lost, carbon legislation and passing them by with a big cheerio and up yours, NBN.
Their so called attack on the budget lasted less than 10 days. The unhinging is well underway.
george
To be honest, after hearing Barnaby and Mirabella speak, I could not bear hearing precisely what Jensen said, but it did include something about a meteorite
Bowen reveals drop in boat arrivals
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/23/3224194.htm?section=justin
confessions
[Oh dear. This is more bad news for Abbott. They are going to argue the science.]
The one issue the Rabbott ordered his troops not to discuss. 😆
Is CC alone, issue enough to split the Coalition?
David
I wish the unhinging would be complete sooner rather than later. I am just about spent!!!
Charlton
No one remembers playing cricket 48 years ago unless it was associated with some personal achievement!
What did you achieve?
[Liberal backbencher Dennis Jensen, a renowned climate change sceptic, said global temperatures were flatlining.
“The point is that if you get the hottest 10 years on record, it has not been heating this decade,” he told reporters in Canberra.
“It’s stabilised. It’s effectively at the top of a curve that has gone up and it has flattened out.”
Introducing a carbon tax was not prudent for an event that may or may not occur, Dr Jensen said.
“The point is that there are scientists that say at some stage it is inevitable that we are going to be hit by a meteor, by an asteroid,” he said.
“Does that mean taking action against that?”]
http://www.industrysearch.com.au/News/Humans-causing-global-warming-Climate-Commission-51596
😆
While on the topic of science denialists here is something for the Wireless is as fast as fiber anti NBN wally’s. Stick this in your modem and smoke it.
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“Laser puts record data rate through fibre.
Researchers have set a new record for the rate of data transfer using a single laser: 26 terabits per second.At those speeds, the entire Library of Congress collections could be sent down an optical fibre in 10 seconds.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13469924
Kennedy assassination – now I get it
[Opposition industry spokeswoman Sophie Mirabella said the commission’s report would end manufacturing in Australia.
“This report wants to go further than the Greens say publicly,” she told reporters.
“This report will shut down Australia as a modern industrialised economy.”]
Minchin, Jensen and Mirabella all backed Abbott in the leadership ballott. Just sayin’.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/9496778/no-doubt-humans-causing-global-warming/
victoria hang in there friend, our day will come sooner rather than later. The Opposition rabble is starting to tear itself apart, every day brings a new gem, I am starting to smile again after having to keep away from all news outlets for a few days last week.
gosh thanks george my key board fell on the floor and the computer went black.
true.
it just sort of popped in to my head its common sense. some one should ask Barnaby why go to a doctor to get a diagnosis he would probably disagree with him any way
OPT
[All I was interested in was the raw politics: the duplicity of Kerr and the sheer smugness and audacity of Fraser & his ilk.]
I still remember my own anger, and the betrayal I felt when Kerr put Fraser in as caretaker PM, which gave the Libs access to all the documents and all the advantages of incumbency *without an election*.
That’s the thing that makes me maddest when Tone talks about an illegitimate govt.
Victoria
[I wish the unhinging would be complete sooner rather than later. I am just about spent!!!]
I feel the same way.
It depresses me at times.
Minchin, Jensen, Joyce: the Do-nothing denialists in the Coalition are queuing up to do an open-air blather.
I wonder if Minchin, Jensen and Mirabella openly revisiting AGW denialism is a shot across the bow of Turnbull/Hockey and their backers. Something like ‘we are prepared to destabilise the party rather than have you’.
Bring on QT!
[I wish the unhinging would be complete sooner rather than later. I am just about spent!!!]
Victoria & Dee – gosh you girls disappoint me! All together now: “we want a slow and excruciatingly painful unhinging”
confessions
Thanks for linking Jensen’s comments,
David
I suppose from my perspective, I was ready for the coalition unhinging back in March. Even though there are very good signs that the unhinging is well underway I don’t want to get my hopes up too much!
[“The so-called Climate Commission is a Labor government-appointed committee of known climate alarmists, selectively appointed … to further the cause of global warming alarmism,” he said following today’s release of the commission’s first report.
“I think everybody should take anything they say with a grain of salt,” Senator Minchin said.
“What’s most offensive is (climate commissioner) Will Steffen suggesting the scientific debate is over.]
Another reminder of how much better this country will be after June 30.
“At those speeds, the entire Library of Congress collections could be sent down an optical fibre in 10 seconds.”
Crikey, it’s hard enough to find my way around all the stuff in this house already. Do they provide a ladder with that?
george
I agree with you. I want them to suffer for several months, to compensate me for all the rubbish I have had to put up with. Not forgetting the constant pics of the riding Tone, the swimming Tone, the rabid Tone.
I demand compensation 😡
Shellbell @ 1818:
Representing Kiama we won the South Coast District Cricket Association under 16s final.
It wasn’t such a great occasion for me however as I was 12th man. I’ve never forgiven the Captain for not selecting me to this day.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11435640
more on fibre uk
BK
What’s most offensive is Senator Minchin’s attitude.
george
As I have just stated, I was so sure that the unhinging would have occurred a few months ago. Therefore from my perspective the unhinging has surely been slow and excruciating!!!
lizzie 😆
“This report will shut down Australia as a modern industrialised economy.”
…..surely she was laughing when she said that, confessions???? What a total wing-nut 😀
Wonder if the fed govt are aware of this latest advancement in downloading speeds?
[Unlike you I’ve still not forgiven Fraser – even though he’s done much to repair his damaged reputation, culminating in his resignation from the Liberal Party.]
oz poll was frazer army minister during the raffle to send our boys over seas to kill and be killed o yes it was called national service
Anyone agree that Turnbull timed his “Direct Carbon Program is Crap” offensive well???
I wonder how the libs spin the fact that even Vatican appointed scientists spoke out against global warming…perhaps they too were appointed by some stealthy ALP operative in Italy?
In regards to Fraser, I believe that he also extended the sole parent pension to fathers and started SBS. I come from a vehmently anti Fraser family so was quite surprised to find at University that Fraser was not ummm..a fascist…
The Prime Minister gave an excellent press conference today, rightly pointed out that she was not a scientist and directing the media to question the scientists re climate change..
[Minchin, Jensen, Joyce: the Do-nothing denialists in the Coalition are queuing up to do an open-air blather.]
That lot are mild compared to the Herald Sun comments linked to earlier. Geez, there’s alot of “misinformed” people out there (I’m being very kind today), and no amount of fact is going to change their views.
George
[Victoria & Dee – gosh you girls disappoint me! All together now: “we want a slow and excruciatingly painful unhinging”]
😆 😆
[Anyone agree that Turnbull timed his “Direct Carbon Program is Crap” offensive well???]
Brilliantly so!
Minchin just doesn’t do science very well.
“Senator Minchin wishes to record his dissent from the committee’s statements that it believes cigarettes are addictive and that passive smoking causes a number of adverse health effects for non-smokers,” the committee’s minority report says. “Senator Minchin believes these claims (the harmful effects of passive smoking) are not yet conclusively proved. . . there is insufficient evidence to link passive smoking with a range of adverse health effects.”
To support his claims, Senator Minchin drew on a study commissioned by the Tobacco Institute of Australia that “concluded the data did not support a causal relationship between exposure to environmental tobacco smoke (ETS) and lung cancer or heart disease in adults”.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/nick-minchin-was-a-sceptic-on-tobacco/story-e6frgczf-1225805535960
Hockey now in the HOR speaking
Yes Turnbull held his fire until the right time
[“This report will shut down Australia as a modern industrialised economy.”]
People like Mirabella don’t understand that a modern 21C economy will be a new breed, not the old 20C version. The clever ones are already working on it.