GhostWhoVotes brings results of the latest quarterly Newspoll of state voting intention in Western Australia, and it finds the state Labor Party joining its New South Wales and Queensland counterparts in the sub-30 primary vote club. From an already parlous position in July-September, Labor is down a point on both the primary vote, now at 29 per cent, and two-party preferred, with the Coalition now leading 58-42. Both leaders’ personal ratings are much as they’ve been all year: Colin Barnett is down a point on approval to 55 per cent and up three on disapproval to 35 per cent, Eric Ripper is down one on approval to 33 per cent and up one on disapproval to 43 per cent, and Barnett’s two-party lead has gone from 61-17 to 60-16. The sample for the poll was 839, for a margin of error of about 3.4 per cent.
This looks like a fiasco … so much for a young gun … with instincts like that …. that should almost be his last chance
I think the people of WA, look at their economy and then look at the economies of NSW/Qld etc and they see how well they are going and they think it must be the Mining sector
Mmm
Ripper age 59
Wyatt age 36
Next election due 2013
Next genuinely winnable election not likely until 2016
Baring a coalition self-immolation I reckon I can guess which of the two is more likely to become the next Labor premier of WA!
Looks a bit like Australia’s World Cup bid. The rule is don’t trust any politician who says they will support you!
Their ABC
[Wyatt withdraws challenge to Labor leadership
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/07/3108166.htm ]
And to think only a day or so ago they were reporting that Wyatt was the new leader!
IDIOts!
And here is The West’s story:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/8610709/wyatt-ends-leadership-bid/
And Eric Ripper is vindicated re Tom Stephen’s attempts.
Chalpat Sonti on the Withdrawal:
http://www.watoday.com.au/opinion/politics/the-fastest-withdrawal-in-the-west-20110107-19im8.html
What a joke so the bunch of cowards bow to the will of the Missos the Shoppies and another union,the WA labour party need a clean out Ripper his GF and a lot of others.
You wont be happy till Ripper wrecks the party at the next election and the one after what a bunch of incompetent wasters
Still we got to keep useless prats like the time servers that get foisted up us,you gotta wonder some time,Ripper should have gone,I bet he rang his masters every 5 min to see which way to vote
[John RyanPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 9:22 pm | PermalinkWhat a joke so the bunch of cowards bow to the will of the Missos the Shoppies and another union,the WA labour party need a clean out Ripper his GF and a lot of others.
You wont be happy till Ripper wrecks the party at the next election and the one after what a bunch of incompetent wasters
Still we got to keep useless prats like the time servers that get foisted up us,you gotta wonder some time,Ripper should have gone,I bet he rang his masters every 5 min to see which way to vote
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AS I said before – The Revolution ended in 1972 – Move on.
Ben didn’t have the numbes fullstop.
6PR has ruined your brain.
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Nothing says “stability” to the voters like a failed leadership challenge. Especially when they have been told by the Labor party leader that one Labor pollie is incompetent and another is an amateur.
Watch the numbers tank even further.
[DiogenesPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 9:51 pm | PermalinkNothing says “stability” to the voters like a failed leadership challenge. Especially when they have been told by the Labor party leader that one Labor pollie is incompetent and another is an amateur.
Watch the numbers tank even further.
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In your dreams Dio 🙂
No Frank, in reality.
The voters don’t like instability and lame duck leaders. Either the Labor Party will knife Ripper or the voters will do it for them next election.
The chance of Ripper winning the next election would be about the same as Kennealy, ie about 10%.
[DiogenesPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:02 pm | PermalinkNo Frank, in reality.
The voters don’t like instability and lame duck leaders. Either the Labor Party will knife Ripper or the voters will do it for them next election.
The chance of Ripper winning the next election would be about the same as Kennealy, ie about 10%.
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and were Tony Abbott’s PPM figures again ??
A lot better than Rippers. And his were heading in the right direction. It’s kind of important to improve your 2PP vote rather than have it die in the ditch.
Ripper is a rotting carcass waiting to be cut down by either the party or the voters.
[DiogenesPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:11 pm | PermalinkA lot better than Rippers. And his were heading in the right direction. It’s kind of important to improve your 2PP vote rather than have it die in the ditch.
Ripper is a rotting carcass waiting to be cut down by either the party or the voters.
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THe Election isn’t for another 2 YEARS – A LOT can change.
[THe Election isn’t for another 2 YEARS – A LOT can change.]
That’s why Ripper has about a 10% chance of winning the next election.
[DiogenesPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:20 pm | PermalinkTHe Election isn’t for another 2 YEARS – A LOT can change.
That’s why Ripper has about a 10% chance of winning the next election.
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And so did Tony Abbott at the start of 2010 – but he almosrt did.
Stick to News Ltd spun gossip.
Frank
[DiogenesPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:23 pm | PermalinkFrank
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How original – NOT.
Wyatt didn’t have the numbers – full stop.
Deal with it.
Frank
Enjoy another term in opposition.
[DiogenesPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:26 pm | PermalinkFrank
Enjoy another term in opposition.
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Dio, what was your prediction in SA again ??
You are as accurate as Gus.
Stick to Tree Surgery.
I predicted Labor would win.
no you didn’t
[DiogenesPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:30 pm | PermalinkI predicted Labor would win.
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Under Sufference.
Dio
pray tell who are you talking to
All I get is you talking to yourself
the succubus are out, perhaps?
Ron
I predicted a Labor minority win. As did you from memory. Let’s face it; a 48.5-51.5
Hmm,
who would have thought a 48.5-51.5 would turn out so badly for the Libs.
hung comes to mind
Diog , what i remeber was blogging a few days out labor winning by a few seats which they did but in between there was a compeition and you were only one piking hung And i could not bear you skiting fr ever and evers on PB with your unpolitcal , so i enter competion with my (changd) predict to same as you I should known you’d be wRONg ,
[RonPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:47 pm | PermalinkDiog , what i remeber was blogging a few days out labor winning by a few seats which they did but in between there was a compeition and you were only one piking hung And i could not bear you skiting fr ever and evers on PB with your unpolitcal , so i enter competion with my (changd) predict to same as you I should known you’d be wRONg ,
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I thought that was the case Ron 🙂
O Dio Mio always doing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tr9Kc01erQ
Fed and state WA Labor got a reel problam with MRRT in that i not see eithers vote suport changing for a while , until MRRT with Argus & Ferguson finished , then how it looks in effect , then how sold , and who thn opposing apart from Twigg
original Hawkie about 1983 petroleom supa tax scheme method would been a good start point originally , instead of Dr Henry treasury RSPT complexs methods
Frank: So Ripper wins because he got his union mates to threaten the preselections of MPs – big effing deal!
And you honestly think that Ripper can beat Barnett at the next election? 😀
[Frank
Enjoy another term in opposition.]
It’ll be worth it for Frank, anything justifies his pathological hatred of Ben Wyatt.
By the time the next WA election comes around Ripper will be 61. I wonder how many State opposition leaders in the last couple of decades have successfully won government for the first time at this age?
think Barnett was 60 ,
does 61 make a diff
Ripper surely won’t be opposition leader by the time of the next state election, despite his “campaign manager’s” confident assertions otherwise!
Wyatt has been burnt now, so it’s easier for Mark McGowan to make a real move later on.
[evan14Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:15 pm | PermalinkFrank: So Ripper wins because he got his union mates to threaten the preselections of MPs – big effing deal!
And you honestly think that Ripper can beat Barnett at the next election?
183 evan14Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:17 pm | PermalinkFrank
Enjoy another term in opposition.
It’ll be worth it for Frank, anything justifies his pathological hatred of Ben Wyatt.
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Who said I hated Wyatt – I just said he made his move WAY too early.
[evan14Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:27 pm | PermalinkRipper surely won’t be opposition leader by the time of the next state election, despite his “campaign manager’s” confident assertions otherwise!
Wyatt has been burnt now, so it’s easier for Mark McGowan to make a real move later on.
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Gert off the JUngle juice.
2 Years is a LONG time in Politics.
Just ask your mate Kevin Rudd 🙂
[RonPosted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:24 pm | Permalinkthink Barnett was 60 ,
does 61 make a diff
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Colin Barnett was 58 when he became Premier and was the Lib’s only choice to be leader.
But Rudd never had approval ratings as bad as Ripper’s, even in his last weeks as PM.
Are WA Labor banking on another Buswell scandal in the next 12 months? 😉
[190 evan14Posted Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:42 pm | PermalinkBut Rudd never had approval ratings as bad as Ripper’s, even in his last weeks as PM.
Are WA Labor banking on another Buswell scandal in the next 12 months?
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Try high energy prices for a start, plus the teransport of lead etc.
Buswell is the icing on the cake.
So we are all supposed to be quite and smile sweetly while 3 union blokes who I dont ever recall voting for TELL Ripper what side of the bed to get out of.
Once the rank and file had a say in these things but not now WA labour politicians are a 4th rate lot,with about 6 exceptions.
Unfortunately Frank I don,t listen to PR I listen to 100.1 or 94.5 or 91.3,the sooner these 2 nd rate union leaders get their noses out of it instead of pushing 6th people like Ripper and co into politics,I buggered if I know how you can just sit there and let this bunch of incompetents carry on.
Bloody Ripper cant make up his mind on anything apart from being a bloody failure,love to know how many time a day Bullock turns up or rings him to tell him how to think,on 6 PR you should get off that bandwagon as its wearing a bit thin
[John RyanPosted Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 12:06 am | PermalinkSo we are all supposed to be quite and smile sweetly while 3 union blokes who I dont ever recall voting for TELL Ripper what side of the bed to get out of.
Once the rank and file had a say in these things but not now WA labour politicians are a 4th rate lot,with about 6 exceptions.
Unfortunately Frank I don,t listen to PR I listen to 100.1 or 94.5 or 91.3,the sooner these 2 nd rate union leaders get their noses out of it instead of pushing 6th people like Ripper and co into politics,I buggered if I know how you can just sit there and let this bunch of incompetents carry on.
Bloody Ripper cant make up his mind on anything apart from being a bloody failure,love to know how many time a day Bullock turns up or rings him to tell him how to think,on 6 PR you should get off that bandwagon as its wearing a bit thin
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Give it a rest.
Wyatt didn’t have the numbers FACT.
Deal with it.
Your reliance for crap dished out by 6PR provesbeyond doubt that you believbe their bullshit.
John,
Since when have the Rank and File of ANY Party elected their leader ??
Except for the Dumbocarts and The Greens – NONE.
And even the LIberals elect their leaders based on Factions – who do you think Troy Buswell was manipulated by – Noel Cricton-Browne.
so get off your high horse.
Barnett was certainly the closest, I think , Ron. In WA you have to go back to Sir Charles Court to find anyone older than Ritter at the time of first victory.
But I was interested in it mainly in terms of changes generally in the political scene in Australia. I couldn’t think of many Premiers of this age when they came to office anywhere in Australia in recent times. In NSW, I see, you have to go back to Bob Hefron and Joe Cahill in the 1950’s, for example. In Victoria it would be John Caine Senior, in the 1940’s, I think. Not sure about the other states.
Just adding that with Hefron and Cahill they both actually replaced leaders of their own party as Premier, rather than winning election from opposition, so they don’t quite fit my own criteria.
Regardless, it would clearly be a pretty rare event.
I heard Alannah on ABC Radio this morning saying that Ripper should be replaced as Labor leader, and admonishing her ALP colleagues for not seizing the opportunity.
Alannah has more brains and balls than Ripper the factional thugs and Frank that’s why they made life very difficult for her she is not beholden to any of them hence she is dangerous to them,one thing Bullock,and Ripper and the other dont want is people who can think for themselves.
FFS Frank I don’t listen to PR I don’t need some one else to tell me how to think and vote unlike Ripper and friends
Frank would prefer that the WA Labor Party is controlled by a bunch of union hacks & thugs.
He’ll obviously relish being in opposition for another 8 years. 😉
Frank is obviously a very loyal Labor man but sometimes his views are too blinded by his commendable loyalty.
Eric Ripper is a dud, it appears. Ben Wyatt should have waited another 12 months or so, just to give Ripper more time to choke himself off.
Unfortunately, Wyatt was influenced by pledges of support for a challenge rather than getting the numbers all tied up before announcing his intentions to challenge.
He should remember that, in politics, there is no such thing as a friend. If you want a friend in politics, get yourself a dog. At least you’ll get loyalty and support.
Politics is all about back stabbing, throat slashing, mystery and intrigue. When he acquires those skills, Wyatt will succeed. Meantime, he should just sick back (yes frustatingly) and watch Ripper wallow in his own incompetence. Even Frank must acknowledge these facts.