With Labor’s win confirmed yesterday in Calwell, Labor can lay claim to 94 seats in the House of Representatives, shattering its previous record of 86 at the 1987 election. In seat terms, the only result that bears comparison for Labor is the wartime election of 1943, when Labor under John Curtin won 49 in what was them a chamber of 75 seats. As covered on the dedicated late counting thread, the only seat that remains seriously in doubt is Bradfield, where the Liberals hold a 14-vote lead over the independent in the early stages of a recount – a partial recount begins today in Goldstein, though something fairly extraordinary would have to turn up to overturn the 260-vote Liberal lead. If nothing changes from here, the Liberals will have 29 seats, the Nationals nine, independents nine, and the Greens, Katter’s Australian Party and the Centre Alliance one each.
Some further random points of note:
• JWS Research has produced a “post-federal election survey report” along the same lines of a similar effort after the 2022 election, but has been sparing with details thus far. The Financial Review reports it found 49% of Labor voters identified a favourable view of the party as the main motivation for their choice, followed by 23% for the leader, 18% for policies or issues and 7% for the local candidate. Among Coalition voters, 56% named the party, 20% policies or issues, 13% the local candidate and only 9% the leader. The pollster further relates a finding that 16% decided on the day they voted and another 39% during the campaign period, which didn’t differ greatly from the 2022 results. The poll was conducted Tuesday to Wednesday in the week after the election from a sample of 1000.
• Josh Dolega, an officer at the Australian Taxation Office in Burnie and organiser with the Left faction Community and Public Sector Union, has been preselected to fill the Labor Tasmanian Senate vacancy created by Anne Urquhart’s successful move to the lower house seat of Braddon. Sue Bailey of The Mercury reports the field also included Unions Tasmania secretary Jessica Munday, Meander Valley councillor Ben Dudman, former party state secretary Stuart Benson, Australian Education Union state president David Genford, and Burnie councillor and disabilities worker Chris Lynch. Dolega has a distinctly low profile, but had backing from Urquhart and her power base in the Australian Manufacturing Workers Union.
• By way of refuting suggestions that Labor’s low primary vote raised questions about Labor’s legitimacy or mandate, national secretary Paul Erickson noted in his National Press Club address last week that the party recorded a higher vote in the Senate than the House of Representatives, which he attributed to tactical voting in the lower house. While the distinction was fine – Labor recorded 34.6% of the vote in the House and 35.1% in the Senate – the last occasion I can identify where the two were matched at concurrent elections was in 1958.
• On the subject of Paul Erickson, Nine Newspapers reports on suggestions he could contest a by-election for the Melbourne seat of Isaacs should Mark Dreyfus react to his dumping as Attorney-General by quitting politics, the odds on which would seem rather short.
What was the actual text on the peccant banners?
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GFY2says:
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 5:15 pm
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9901-federal-voting-intention-june-3-202520Article …
“The ALP’s two-party preferred result is (at present) the highest since World War II.”
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Well GFY2
This is the best election result since WW2.
Oh and also barring anything extraordinary happening, Trump will still be president in May 2028 and I can’t really imagine a scenario where more people become enamoured with him. The Sky After Dark Culcha Warriors can try all they can to glaze him and his administration but by then I reckon most Australians would be thinking “Why the hell is that bloated oompa loompa still in power and why do we have to worship and kiss his diaper-clad arse like the Liberals keep on screeching for us to do?”
Stoogey Lurker @ #2508 Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 – 4:11 pm
Of course they do.
The government’s own modelling (done by the Climate Change Authority) says that even if the government meets its current 2030 target (which they are not currently on track to do) they will only achieve a 56% reduction by 2035, whereas a 2035 target that would have even just a 50% chance of limiting warming to 1.5 degrees would require a reduction of 67%. More would be better, of course.
In other words, much more ambition is required.
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herman the germansays:
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 5:29 pm
We can do 6X.X/3X.X
On lazy Susssan’s first major (inevitable) stumble…
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Not trying to pour cold water on your enthusiasm but Sussan Ley did quite well after such a disastrous L-NP election. She already has 2 political scalps on her metaphorical belt
1. She became first the female Liberal leader, which even Bronwyn Bishop and Julie Bishop could not achieve defeating Angus ‘well done’ Taylor
2. She comprehensively defeated David Littleproud shenanigans and made him vulnerable to leadership change.
3. She did not go SAD or right-wing shockjocks even once till now.
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To be honest and frank with you, I expected a much better 2PP for ALP.
“Global insect populations appear to be crashing:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jun/03/climate-species-collapse-ecology-insects-nature-reserves-aoe”
REmarkably sad. And, something people here see all the time. Used to be on a long road trip up the coast, in 1400km or so you cleaned the bugs off the windsceeen 2 or three times. Now, once maybe or not at all. 🙁
Entropy @ #2507 Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 – 4:11 pm
Gosh, someone should tell these guys they’re wasting their time …
https://www.themandarin.com.au/255622-defence-to-cook-drones-with-new-electromagnetic-pulse-weapons/
In May 2028, when the next election is due in Australia, there is:
– about a 50% actuarial chance that Rupert Murdoch will be dead, in which case there is a high chance, but not a certainty, that the even more odious Lachlan will be in charge of News Corpse.
– about a 20% chance that Donald Trump will be dead, in which case it is almost certain that the even more odious Vance will be in charge of the USA.
Interesting times indeed.
I predict a third term for Labor but with a considerably reduced majority and Liberals will regain the Teal seats except for Wentworth and Warringah, despite no moderation in their ultra-right wing direction.
“The latest Roy Morgan survey is based on interviewing a representative cross-section of 5,128 Australian electors from May 5 – June 1, 2025. Of all electors surveyed, 6% (up 0.4% from the 5.6% who voted ‘Informal’ at the recent Federal Election) can’t say who they would vote for. When comparing different polls, it is always important to make sure to take note of the dates when the polls are conducted to undertake a proper comparison between two polls.”
Ley was only elected on the 13th and then the break up was on the 20th, and the make up was on the 27th. I am not sure I would hold her responsible for any of this result. There was just too much chaos that was not her fault.
Now in the majority..
‘imacca says:
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 6:02 pm
“Global insect populations appear to be crashing:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jun/03/climate-species-collapse-ecology-insects-nature-reserves-aoe”
REmarkably sad. And, something people here see all the time. Used to be on a long road trip up the coast, in 1400km or so you cleaned the bugs off the windsceeen 2 or three times. Now, once maybe or not at all. ‘
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One way or another I have been tracking local extinctions in Australia for the last 65 years – most recently I was out today, again doing a survey. The general trend has ALWAYS been in the same direction even though there are particular winners. Climate change is accelerating this trend.
The only consolation I have is that we are setting up the preconditions for the sort of massive starburst of speciation which eventually follows all mass extinction events.
Timmy says:
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 6:07 pm
In May 2028, when the next election is due in Australia, there is:
– about a 50% actuarial chance that Rupert Murdoch will be dead…’
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Maybe, maybe not.
His mum was well over a 100 before she died.
Dutch far-right leader Geert Wilders said on Tuesday his PVV party would leave the governing coalition, toppling the right-wing government.
Mr Wilders said his coalition partners were not willing to embrace his ideas of halting asylum migration, for which he had demanded immediate support last week. “No signature under our asylum plans. The PVV leaves the coalition,” Mr Wilders said in a post on X.
He said he had informed Prime Minister Dick Schoof that all ministers from his PVV party would quit the government, after he had decided to leave the governing coalition.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-03/dutch-far-right-leader-geert-wilders-quits-coalition/105372864
sprocket:
Very amusing!
Extraordinary result for Labor in the Morgan 2PP. Even assuming MOE, that suggests a clear net swing to Labor since the election.
Sky news on election night: “Well things can’t get worse for the Liberals from here”.
Squabbling LNP leadership team: “Hold my beer….”
Lidia Thorpe on Dorinda Cox’s defection to the Labor party.
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‘Black cladding’: Lidia Thorpe erupts over Dorinda Cox’s defection to Labor
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/black-claddinglidia-thorpe-erupts-over-dorinda-coxs-defection-to-labor/news-story/bf8f8d47fa7ff4aa5748ac26b199e5d2
“Ex-Greens Senator Lidia Thorpe has slammed the defection of Senator Dorinda Cox to the Labor Party as “black cladding” to promote the illusion that the ALP cares.
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“It’s disappointing to see Senator Cox move from the left to the right by joining the Labor Party,’’ Senator Thorpe told news.com.au.
“We know that once you join Labor, you’re shut down.
“You’re not allowed to cross the floor. You’re not allowed to speak freely. You’re expected to fall in line.
“If changing Labor from within was possible, Senator Fatima Payman wouldn’t have been forced to leave the party over Labor’s support for the genocide in Palestine.
“Backbenchers in the Labor Party have no real power to drive change. They must vote with the party, even when it goes against their own conscience or community.
“Labor already has several First Nations MPs. Labor already knows what needs to be done to deliver justice. Yet still, the party continues to fail our people. Adding another black face won’t change that.
“This looks like more black cladding from a party that wants to appear committed to justice for our people without doing the work.”
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“Labor has become a centre-right party. That means I remain the only First Nations federal politician who isn’t sitting on the right side of politics. I’ll keep using my voice to fight for justice, truth, and Sovereignty — without fear or compromise.”
It took around nine months after the last election for the Wilders Government to cobble itself together. The question now is whether the very disparate parties can cobble something together to avoid having to go to another general election.
Global insect populations appear to be crashing:
Ah yeah it was very noticeable to virtually have no flies or mosquitos, and not seeing many moths and other insects being attracted to light this summer season in the Blue Mountains.
sprocket_ says:
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 6:09 pm
Do tell what your point is?
It’s wild that the greens are going to focus on Cox’s race. There is simply no way to win that argument. Crazy lack of political strategy. Playing the race card as a response to taking a hit. It drives away literally everyone. They should be shutting that stuff down.
If Dutch do head off to a snap election, then it will be fairly close. Wilders’ PVV has been losing ground in the more recent polls. The traditional left block of GL-PvdA are basically even with them as are the traditional centre-right VVD.
The New Social Contract group which emerged from nowhere at the last election has tanked after they back the PVV coalition into government which was something a lot their voters presumable didn’t foresee.
The big surging party in the polls at the moment is the Christian Democracy Appeal. They used to be a major party but had in the past decade declined to a minor party.
But Dutch elections are fairly chaotic due to the D’Hondt Method being used for 150 seats, meaning any party getting 0.67% of a vote gets a seat.
Geoffrey Epsteinsays:
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 12:39 pm
Seems like the toxicity in this case was directed at greens staffers by a bully Senator, who was likely to lose preselection accordingly, and so made this jump as a way of dodging accountability – doesn’t seem like it was motivated by any particular values or ideals (maybe she decided one morning she loves Woodside and hates rock art). Maybe the greens culture will be less toxic now she’s gone.
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Post of the day for mine.
For Musk fans
The Sun Is Causing Starlink Satellites To Drop From Space
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/6/2/2325561/-The-Sun-Is-Causing-Starlink-Satellites-To-Drop-From-Space?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
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The sun is causing Elon Musk’s Starlink satellites to drop from space
Eruptions from the sun are causing SpaceX’s Starlink satellites to fall to Earth “faster than expected”, according to Nasa scientists.
A team from the US space agency’s Goddard Space Flight Center made the discovery after investigating the impact of solar activity on the lifespan of satellites in low-Earth orbit.
Their findings revealed that Elon Musk’s space internet constellation is particularly prone to the effects of geomagnetic storms, which heat up the planet’s atmosphere and increase the drag on satellites.
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While some of these satellites use onboard thrusters to deorbit, others fall naturally due to atmospheric drag. The Nasa scientists found that during geomagnetic storms, any satellite orbiting below 300 kilometres burnt up 10 days earlier than expected.
These quicker re-entries could increase the chance of satellites not burning up properly in the Earth’s atmosphere, the scientists said, and may be responsible for some parts of Starlink satellites reaching the ground.
https://www.independent.co.uk/space/starlink-satellites-elon-musk-space-b2759288.html
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That’s literally click bait. This is what the network looks like : https://satellitemap.space/
Careful! That might be triggering for some!
The Super Tax, explained:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-03/labor-super-tax-explained/105368436
imacca @ #2556 Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 – 6:02 pm
Yes, “sad”. Like getting a terminal cancer diagnosis would be “sad”.
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Fatima Payman
“The former Labor senator, Fatima Payman, who quit the party last year to sit as an independent, has suggested Anthony Albanese was hypocritical in drawing a distinction between her and Senator Dorinda Cox, who defected from the Greens to Labor this week.
Earlier today, the prime minister said he viewed Payman’s exit from the Labor party differently to Cox’s move.
Albanese criticised Payman, who was elected to the Senate on a Labor party ticket at the 2022 election, suggesting she “could have put herself before the people of Western Australia [at the most recent federal election] on May 3” as an independent, as opposed to when her term is up at the next election.
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However, Albanese appeared to view the defection of Cox – who helped the Greens campaign in the May election and was critical of the government as recently as last week – differently.
Payman, speaking to ABC TV a short time ago, said:
Some people may call the prime minister hypocritical. And, let’s call a spade a spade, but that being said, I’m just glad that Senator Cox hasn’t had to deal with all the name-calling and the smear campaign that I had to deal with.”
On an average Australians are eating 50 kg chicken/ person/ year.
Boerwar says:
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 6:46 pm
The Super Tax, explained:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-03/labor-super-tax-explained/105368436
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So, what a number of posters were patiently explaining to Player One yesterday in response to their “I’m just a simple tourism operator, I don’t understand” schtick
Thanks, Peg
It looks as if Payman is making 100% sure all her bridges stay well and truly burned.
It would appear Fatima Payman is staying true to her values and principles.
Seeing as you haven’t responded, sprocket, could it be that those who’ve hyphenated their surnames are from blended families, and that they’re giving due respect to both parties to an inadvertent root? There would be few who are not guilty of same, except me.
andrewmck @ #2579 Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 – 6:55 pm
I never posted any such thing. I asked a simple question of someone who posted on the subject, and apparently had knowledge of the tax that I did not. And neither did anyone else here. And nor does this article, except in specific circumstances.
Do you people ever tell the truth? 🙁
Peg
LOL. It would appear that slagging Albanese is one of her values.
I do have a question:
Do you think the Greens will do more of the same over the next three years? If not, what do you think they should change?
Ukrainian strikes have triggered power cuts over huge swathes of Russian-controlled territory, plunging hundreds of thousands of people into darkness.
The attacks on power substations, which came after an unsuccessful second round of peace talks in Istanbul, have left entire towns and cities without electricity in the partially-occupied Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions.
Dmitry Medvedev, a top Russian security official, said on Tuesday that the point of holding peace talks with Ukraine was to ensure a swift and complete Russian victory.
“The Istanbul talks are not for striking a compromise peace on someone else’s delusional terms but for ensuring our swift victory and the complete destruction of the neo-Nazi regime,” he said on Telegram.
Yes, it always amuses me those who make fun of double-barrelled or hyphenated names though it’s done here as a cheap shot at the Greens.
“Long gone are the days when the only real option was for women to take on their husband’s surnames in traditional heterosexual marriages. Now, about 70 per cent of Australians take their spouse’s name after getting married — still a majority, but there’s definitely a large number who choose to forgo tradition for alternative options.”
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The reason many people take on double-barrelled surnames nowadays is so that they don’t have to forgo their birth name — especially if they have established a career with it — while still being able to nod to their new marital status and offer homage to their partner and their newly blended family. It’s a particularly popular choice among same-sex marriages, where there’s no obvious traditions to turn to.”
https://harpersbazaar.com.au/celebrities-with-double-barrelled-surnames/
Surprise, surprise Pegasus is upset with Cox defection to ALP.
It appears Pegasus is seething with anger at Dorinda Cox defection like ALP supporters did when Fatima Payman defected from ALP.
It is amusing to think that Thorpe and Payman think that their defections are principled and what Cox did was not principled.
I have not yet seen Pegasus, Rex, P1 and other Greens supporters appreciating the rise of minimum wage to 3.5%.
I can understand why P1 did not say anything about it but what reasons do others have. It would be nice to know their reasons.
An interesting factoid from the ABC super tax explainer is that the average annual income of folk with more than $3million in super is $381,000. It seems that this proposed tax singles out the very wealthy.
What on earth is he talking about?
Jeez these Putin peeps are completely delusional.
confessions
He is stating that there is only one point in the peace talks and that is for Ukraine to surrender unconditionally.
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Pegasussays:
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 7:08 pm
Yes, it always amuses me those who make fun of double-barrelled or hyphenated names though it’s done here as a cheap shot at the Greens.
“Long gone are the days when the only real option was for women to take on their husband’s surnames in traditional heterosexual marriages. Now, about 70 per cent of Australians take their spouse’s name after getting married — still a majority, but there’s definitely a large number who choose to forgo tradition for alternative options.”
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The reason many people take on double-barrelled surnames nowadays is so that they don’t have to forgo their birth name — especially if they have established a career with it — while still being able to nod to their new marital status and offer homage to their partner and their newly blended family. It’s a particularly popular choice among same-sex marriages, where there’s no obvious traditions to turn to.”
https://harpersbazaar.com.au/celebrities-with-double-barrelled-surnames/
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My query is why does Greens political party mostly accepts people with ‘double barreled’ surnames as their political leaders?
Confessions @ #2589 Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 – 7:13 pm
Medvedev makes Hegseth look sober and professional.
ven
Why would you expect them to? Their parties are not the party of the workers.
Ven,
Please stop projecting your emotions. I am neither seething or upset. After she was rejected for a leadership position, I am not surprised at all she has jumped ship.
After only last week damning Labor over the Woodside decision and signing a joint statement to that effect, she now reckons her values are more in line with Labor.
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“Senator Cox last week spoke out against the Albanese government’s decision to allow Woodside to continue operating its North West Shelf gas project until 2070.
Pressed on her previous opposition to the project, Senator Cox said she did not want to comment on the issue as the extension was still being provisionally approved.
Senator Cox last year accused the Albanese government of being complicit in “war crimes” carried out by Israel in Gaza.”
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8982220/bombshell-defection-boosts-labors-majority-in-senate/
Boerwar @ #2590 Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 – 7:16 pm
Well, yes, I got that bit. But complete destruction of the neo-Nazi regime?
BTW, I appreciate those people, who want to preserve the surname from their maternal side i.e. double barreled surname. One of my female relative uses only her maternal surname only and I respect her for she does and not for what her surname. It is their choice and I respect that.
UK Westminster Voting Intention Via @YouGov 1-2 Jun. Changes w/ 26-27 May:
RFM: 28% (-1)
LAB: 22% (+1)
CON: 18% (-1)
LDM: 17% (+2)
GRN: 9% (-2)
Ven @ #2588 Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025 – 7:13 pm
Because it is what any decent government should have done? Because it is of very little interest apart from the chance it gives some here to hurl abuse?
Choose one.
Hypothetically speaking, if it had been a Labor senator who wanted to defect to the Greens party, one who had made as many damning statements about the Greens as Dorinda Cox has made about Labor, I would go woah, no thanks, you might be better off going elsewhere to park your ‘allegiance’.