After ticking in Labor’s favour a fortnight ago, the latest Essential Research poll ticks back with a four point drop to 28% (down a point on two polls ago), while the Coalition recovers the point it lost last time to hit 35%. The Greens are steady on 12%, One Nation is down one to 7%, and undecided component is up one to 6%. The pollster’s 2PP+ measure, which has shown a tight tussle for around a year now, has the Coalition up one to 48% and Labor down three to 46%. The poll also includes the monthly leadership ratings, which give Peter Dutton his best results to date, his approval up three to 45% and disapproval down three to 39%. Anthony Albanese is up two to 44% and up one on disapproval to 48%.
Further questions are inspired by the visit to Australia of King Charles III, including a finding of 50% approval and 26% disapproval of whatever it is that he does. A question on a republic finds a big drop in unsure since January, with support up three to 45% and opposition up four to 39%. A question on the rarely canvassed issue of federalism (at least, that’s how I would interpret it – the question didn’t actually mention the states) finds 61% considering the federal government has about the right amount of power, with 13% saying it should have more and 26% less. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1140.
The weekly Roy Morgan poll is quite a bit better for Labor, finding their primary vote up two to 32%, the Coalition down one to 36.5%, the Greens down half to 13.5% and One Nation down half to 5.5%. The respondent-allocated two-party measure has Labor leading 52-48, after a tied result last time, while the previous election preferences measure has it at 53-47, out from 51-49. The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1687.
Just got a spam email, no doubt wanting me to buy bitcoin, but this time instead of Twiggy, Dick Smith or Kochie giving advice, it’s Littlefinger:
“Shorten’s imaginative interview is likely to modify your perception of him.
In a live interview, with the camera still recording, Bill Shorten made an unforeseen statement. The Bank of Australia is anxious. Is this the conclusion of his career? Read more”
(with a still of him on Q&A)
If the spammers have taken him on board, they obviously think he still has a few miles to run.
I have not included the link in case someone accidently opens it.
Boerwar @ #47 Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024 – 9:46 am
Agreed caused by being a bogan rather than cost of living (How much does a lime cost?)
Trump? Surely not!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/22/e-coli-outbreak-mcdonalds-quarter-pounders
Oakeshott Country @ #52 Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024 – 9:55 am
$2 each.
“Perth man treated for scurvy as cost-of-living crisis brings back ‘disease of the past’”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/23/perth-man-treated-for-scurvy-as-cost-of-living-crisis-brings-back-disease-of-the-past
Looks like HLR will go into 2025 and beyond.
It’s Australia’s own version of the Dreyfuss case – although no one has been sent to Devils Island just yet.
Hugoaugogo
Pied Piper rambles incessantly about migrants.
Gittins says we have a shortage of labour.
Migrants are filling a lot of gaps and those who look after my mother in her aged care home, many of them from Bhutan, are doing a great job.
I’m no way near smart enough to offer a solution but sending a whole heap of them home is most likely not it.
I have a friend who had scurvy several years ago. She was severely depressed at the time, not leaving the house, not eating etc. Fruit & veg are expensive, food deserts are a burgeoning issue.
You can say the dude is a bloody idiot – maybe he is, or maybe there’s more to the story.
Used to work with disability pensioners (mostly mental disorders), and nutrition can be a big problem for some.
Access to health services should be much easier and cheaper, a public grocer would help to keep the price of healthy food affordable for our benefit recipients that we keep in poverty.
Remember the mantra that we will be lacking workers in the 20 to 40 year age group in twenty years’ time, so we need to import lots of workers in that age group now?
That started about twenty or thirty years ago, and now the effects are kicking in. But for some strange reason our population is ageing at an ever-increasing pace.
I can’t imagine why.
Nutty labor types on here are heading for the political iceberg.
Very simple restrict crazy numbers coming in .
BK thanks for the roundup. I hope Labor reads this story. We really don’t need tobe bunging on large infrastructure projects (defence or transport) right now. More smaller, cheaper projects, and more housing, is what is needed with our construction workforce.
“ Get this into your head: we are now short of workers, not jobs”, declares Ross Gittins. Last week, he says, something strange happened without anyone noticing. We got the best monthly report on the jobs market we’ve ever had, and it was greeted with dismay. He asks why it was that last week’s good news greeted with dismay? Because it was taken to mean the Reserve Bank will be in no hurry to start cutting interest rates. You know the media: always look on the dark side of life.”
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/get-this-into-your-head-we-are-now-short-of-workers-not-jobs-20241022-p5kkak.html
‘Liberal frontbencher says changes to abortion law ‘not going to happen’
Karen Middleton
Karen Middleton
Liberal frontbencher Jane Hume has declared the federal Coalition has “no plan” to wind back abortion laws in Australia if it wins government, dismissing it as an issue raised by “fringe parties” in the context of the Queensland election.
“It’s not going to happen,” she has told Sky News….’
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Why would we trust them?
We already have the South Australian Liberals, the Queensland Liberal Nationals and now a Shadow Minister variously doing sneaky attacks on abortion.
‘banquo911 says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:05 am
I have a friend who had scurvy several years ago. She was severely depressed at the time, not leaving the house, not eating etc. Fruit & veg are expensive, food deserts are a burgeoning issue.
You can say the dude is a bloody idiot – maybe he is, or maybe there’s more to the story.
Used to work with disability pensioners (mostly mental disorders), and nutrition can be a big problem for some.
Access to health services should be much easier and cheaper, a public grocer would help to keep the price of healthy food affordable for our benefit recipients that we keep in poverty.’
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He does not have scurvy because he is poor.
He has scurvy because he has gone straight past the fruit and vegies that dominate the entrances of all the big supermarket to get to frozen food section.
He has purchased prepared food instead of preparing his own which does take a bit of effort and organisation but which is generally both more nutritious and cheaper.
You can’t protect everyone from themselves.
It’s Australia’s own version of the Dreyfuss case
Heh.
Someone had to say it eventually.
On EVs, interested in the experiences of other bludgers. We bought a Nissan Leaf (45 Kwhr, $52k) two years ago. It is the most expensive car we have ever bought. Despite that, we love it. Very nice to drive and lovely and quiet inside. We charge it from home solar so running cost is literally zero and servicing very cheap. Totally reliable so far (22,000 km).
EVs are mechanically very simple. There is not much to go wrong. No gearbox, muffler, fuel injection etc. There is just the battery and electric motor(s). Batteries last longer than people assume and can be replaced. Electric motors are very simple and reliable. In trains and trams they can easily go one million km+. So IMO the chance of EVs becoming a stranded asset is minimal.
I think the opposite is more likely. There is a good chance some legacy ICE car manufacturers will not survive the transition. Remember Saab? What happens to your 4WD SUV if its maker bankrupts? They need a lot more spare parts to keep on the road.
As for Chinese EVs, I have nothing against them and know two engineering colleagues who have bought them. Both are very happy with their EVs. Some Chinese EV brands are better than others. In China BYD is seen as a premium quality brand. MG4s are also pretty good.
Liberal frontbencher Jane Hume has declared the federal Coalition has “no plan” to wind back abortion laws in Australia if it wins government, dismissing it as an issue raised by “fringe parties” in the context of the Queensland election.
“It’s not going to happen,” she has told Sky News….’
Well, at least they’re taking it seriously, how many elections have the Liberals lost on this one issue so far?
Senator Price gone to ground?
autocrat @ #54 Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024 – 9:59 am
$5 if “organic” “Double the price for half the size’
Boerwarsays:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:14 am
snip
You can’t protect everyone from themselves.
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No, but as people become more isolated (and they are) as a result of a more individualistic society, the responsibility of the government to prevent people from falling through the cracks increases.
We have smaller more siloed communities, and fewer social safety nets. Without active intervention its obvious that not everyone is going to be able to manage as well as others.
Badthinker @ #66 Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024 – 10:20 am
Two things:
1. Of course it isn’t going to happen, abortion laws belong to the states and territories. The only thing they could conceivably (ha!) do is take it off medicare.
2. Jacinta Price apparently belongs to a fringe party. Nice.
banquo911 @ #68 Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024 – 10:27 am
This really is taking the nanny state to extremes. Have we asked the man if he wants this sort of state intervention.
I heard Bridget MacKenzie on RN this morning masquerading as a constitutional lawyer with regard to the Lidia Thorpe protest. Irrespective of what one might think of Thorpe and her protest, it was certainly entertaining to listen to MacKenzie’s interpretation of the constitutional status of parliamentarians. There should be more of it. Listening to idiot opinions can have the effect of brightening up your day.
As Senator Price and others have made clear, Senator Hume, the LNP don’t need to have plans or policy to reduce or deny access to abortion.
It’s in your DNA.
‘banquo911 says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:27 am
Boerwarsays:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:14 am
snip
You can’t protect everyone from themselves.
_______________________________
No, but as people become more isolated (and they are) as a result of a more individualistic society, the responsibility of the government to prevent people from falling through the cracks increases.
We have smaller more siloed communities, and fewer social safety nets. Without active intervention its obvious that not everyone is going to be able to manage as well as others.’
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‘fewer social safety nets’?
Give me a break.
The social security spend has never, ever been greater in total or as a proportion.
It is not AUKUS that is sending us to the wall. The Commonwealth alone spends $200 billion a year. Even if the scope and settings remain exactly the same, those costs are going to zoom. It is one of the key reasons we will be running deficits for the next decade.
Perhaps a bit less statism, a bit less ‘me’ and a bit more ‘us’ over a lifetime should be encouraged?
‘Rewi says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:35 am
As Senator Price and others have made clear, Senator Hume, the LNP don’t need to have plans or policy to reduce or deny access to abortion.
It’s in your DNA.’
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Exactemundo. The Liberal and Nationals christian zealots have seriously broken cover these last few months.
‘Stuart says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:34 am
I heard Bridget MacKenzie on RN this morning masquerading as a constitutional lawyer with regard to the Lidia Thorpe protest. Irrespective of what one might think of Thorpe and her protest, it was certainly entertaining to listen to MacKenzie’s interpretation of the constitutional status of parliamentarians. There should be more of it. Listening to idiot opinions can have the effect of brightening up your day.’
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Isn’t there a pigeon shooting gallery that needs some attention somewhere?
Anyone living in the sort of poverty where he/she has to skip meals has to think very carefully about every dollar spent. Even buying a lime or lemon a week can mean going without something else.
Calling that poor bastard with scurvy an idiot responsible for his own predicament is victim-blaming.
Many people are addicted to sugar and caffeine, leading to overeating and chronic health problems.
The Guardian Australia article hints that it’s about Aboriginal people.
Which leads me to wonder why they didn’t all die of Scurvy thousands of years ago, since Australia had no limes or anything similar.
How about eskimoes, no limes there, why wasn’t scurvy endemic?
‘Ante Meridian says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:38 am
Anyone living in the sort of poverty where he/she has to skip meals has to think very carefully about every dollar spent. Even buying a lime or lemon a week can mean going without something else.
Calling that poor bastard with scurvy an idiot responsible for his own predicament is victim-blaming.’
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It was ‘bloody idiot’. He had to get past fresh fruit and vegetables to get to more expensive prepared meals. That is not poverty. That is stupidity.
Pied, I don’t read all your posts because once you have read one, you have read them all. Every one I have read and followed up with some fact checking has been found to be bullshit.
I reckon most consider you to be a bit of a joke. If you want to restore a little bit of credibility, how about adding a source to your claims.
I doubt you will because the source will be your fevered mind
@OC, one of my first comments on the subject was ‘maybe he’s an idiot, or maybe there is more to the story’. The fact is, for this specific matter, we don’t know the man’s circumstances other than that he’s getting on, unemployed and lives alone. He didn’t provide any commentary on his circumstances.
The article goes in to quite a lot of detail about how this isn’t a one-off situation.
“Senior, who works for Tharawal Aboriginal Corporation’s medical service in western Sydney, said he had seen patients losing weight because they couldn’t afford to eat.
Senior said poorer communities who are already known to be more likely to be in the unhealthy weight range are often more greatly affected by the problem of excess calories without nutrition. That in turn can result in conditions like obesity, which the authors identified as a risk factor for scurvy.
“Financial resources affect people’s health quite clearly … The way around that is understanding that’s happening, acting on the cost-of-living crisis, so that everyone should be able to afford the food that keeps them well,” Senior said.”
Improved access to services, and healthy food, and engagement with vulnerable individuals isn’t nanny statism – it’s exactly what governments should be doing given the population has decided they don’t want to anymore.
‘Socrates says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:20 am
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Thanks. I am intensely interested in the experience people have with EVs. So far, the direct experiences of buyers have been almost totally positive. There is almost no buyer’s remorse.
Rossmcg says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:04 am
Hugoaugogo
Pied Piper rambles incessantly about migrants.
Gittins says we have a shortage of labour.
Migrants are filling a lot of gaps and those who look after my mother in her aged care home, many of them from Bhutan, are doing a great job.
I’m no way near smart enough to offer a solution but sending a whole heap of them home is most likely not it.
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A solution for more accommodation for essential workers, or homeless, DV escapees, would be to bring into Australia more Chinese tradespeople.
The Chinese are our best friends after all. They want to be.
They have scrapped most if not all of the trade barriers imposed due to Morrison’s careless words.
Even if posters here, ASPI duds, warmongers in our politicians think otherwise. Unfortunately Labor so admired Morrison, they have followed his policies – AUKUS, and buying $7billion missiles from the USA, approved yesterday, to kill innocent adults and children (as we have seen in Gaza, Lebanon ) a decision from his time as PM.
We know Australians who might have scurvy, living on payments below poverty level, some maybe homeless, have food insecurity, as unemployment benefits are too low.
And students having debts of many tens of $thousands, due to past governments taking away government funding for Universities, as well as 64% of public school students also not receiving equivalent funding as religious schools, are sacrificed, for these weapon purchases.
As Labor right faction Treasurer Chalmers said, the latest budget surplus was helped by cutting government spending. A fine man to have as a Labor Treasurer in a cost of living crisis.
People may have forgotten the speed of hospital construction of a month or less, maybe in Wuhan, or elsewhere in the first 2 months of COVID-19, early 2020. Was on TV.
If Labor was interested in more housing underway, these temporary Chinese workers would be a good way to fill the gap.
But I doubt if Labor cares about poorer Australians needs.
banquo911 says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:42 am
@OC, one of my first comments on the subject was ‘maybe he’s an idiot, or maybe there is more to the story’. The fact is, for this specific matter, we don’t know the man’s circumstances other than that he’s getting on, unemployed and lives alone. He didn’t provide any commentary on his circumstances.
The article goes in to quite a lot of detail about how this isn’t a one-off situation.
“Senior, who works for Tharawal Aboriginal Corporation’s medical service in western Sydney, said he had seen patients losing weight because they couldn’t afford to eat.
Senior said poorer communities who are already known to be more likely to be in the unhealthy weight range are often more greatly affected by the problem of excess calories without nutrition. That in turn can result in conditions like obesity, which the authors identified as a risk factor for scurvy.
“Financial resources affect people’s health quite clearly … The way around that is understanding that’s happening, acting on the cost-of-living crisis, so that everyone should be able to afford the food that keeps them well,” Senior said.”
Improved access to services, and healthy food, and engagement with vulnerable individuals isn’t nanny statism – it’s exactly what governments should be doing given the population has decided they don’t want to anymore.’
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A lifetime of unhealthy diet (too many calories and not enough nutrition) routinely catches up with people in poverty as well as people who are NOT in poverty.
A half an hour on the internet gives you all the information you need to know to avoid, a the very, very, very least, scurvy.
People need to take responsibility for what they eat.
BW
“Exactemundo. The Liberal and Nationals christian zealots have seriously broken cover these last few months.”
I think it is an eternal mistake of political parties that when your opposition’s popularity declines, you assume that you are more popular. The 2PP figure in a system with compulsory voting gives some that delusion.
Regardless of Labor’s poll decline, I do not perceive anything that has improved the popularity of the LNP and its predominant Pentecostal christian faction. Recent ACT and Pittwater election results demonstrated this.
Anyone living in the sort of poverty where he/she has to skip meals has to think very carefully about every dollar spent. Even buying a lime or lemon a week can mean going without something else.
He wasn’t skipping meals, he was living on frozen food out of the microwave and there’s no evidence of budgeting.
What are the main ingredients of Frozen food?
Salt, sugar, fat.
Limes and lemons aren’t food, though eating them as if they were food will soon strip the enamel off your teeth.
The limes and lemons prevent scurvy proposition is from observations of British sailors in Tahiti 250 years ago who had been living on hard biscuits and salted pork for a year, hardly great science.
The Lehrmann saga continues.
“Get this into your head: we are now short of workers, not jobs”, declares Ross Gittins. Last week, he says, something strange happened without anyone noticing. We got the best monthly report on the jobs market we’ve ever had, and it was greeted with dismay. He asks why it was that last week’s good news greeted with dismay? Because it was taken to mean the Reserve Bank will be in no hurry to start cutting interest rates. You know the media: always look on the dark side of life.
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But Albo continues the failed disability employment policies because there’s a large pool of labour sitting in limbo because of a lack of vision.
BW
If I was buying an EV now and looking for good value, I would buy an MG4 or BYD Atto 3 without hesitation. Both are now $40K or less and excellent value at that point.
Irene says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:45 am
Rossmcg says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:04 am
Hugoaugogo
Pied Piper rambles incessantly about migrants.
Gittins says we have a shortage of labour.
Migrants are filling a lot of gaps and those who look after my mother in her aged care home, many of them from Bhutan, are doing a great job.
I’m no way near smart enough to offer a solution but sending a whole heap of them home is most likely not it.
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A solution for more accommodation for essential workers, or homeless, DV escapees, would be to bring into Australia more Chinese tradespeople.
The Chinese are our best friends after all. They want to be.
….’
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I see that the Xibot is back for a spray.
China has recently injured Australian divers in international waters. It has only just stopped four years of trade punishments because Xi did not like to hear what Australian politicians were saying about him. Xi loathes and fears free speech. Xi loathes a free press. Xi loathes freedom of assembly. Xi loathes representative democracy. Australia is the antethesis of everything that Xi loathes and fears and suppresses. Xi is supporting fellow megalomaniac Putin in his war on a democracy.
You cannot be serious!
‘Socrates says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:49 am
BW
If I was buying an EV now and looking for good value, I would buy an MG4 or BYD Atto 3 without hesitation. Both are now $40K or less and excellent value at that point.’
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Thanks. We were initially thinking Tesla but, seriously, Musk has killed that option stone dead for us.
We are probably leaning towards BYD because it is a market leader in China and is highly unlikely to be one of the Chinese car companies that goes bust. We have friends who have a BYD and they are super happy with it.
‘Socrates says:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:47 am
BW
“Exactemundo. The Liberal and Nationals christian zealots have seriously broken cover these last few months.”
I think it is an eternal mistake of political parties that when your opposition’s popularity declines, you assume that you are more popular. The 2PP figure in a system with compulsory voting gives some that delusion.
Regardless of Labor’s poll decline, I do not perceive anything that has improved the popularity of the LNP and its predominant Pentecostal christian faction. Recent ACT and Pittwater election results demonstrated this.’
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I wish this were true! Bludger track has the Coalition up 2.2% and PHON up 2.1%.
Badthinkersays:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:47 am
Anyone living in the sort of poverty where he/she has to skip meals has to think very carefully about every dollar spent. Even buying a lime or lemon a week can mean going without something else.
He wasn’t skipping meals, he was living on frozen food out of the microwave and there’s no evidence of budgeting.
What are the main ingredients of Frozen food?
Salt, sugar, fat.
Limes and lemons aren’t food, though eating them as if they were food will soon strip the enamel off your teeth.
The limes and lemons prevent scurvy proposition is from observations of British sailors in Tahiti 250 years ago who had been living on hard biscuits and salted pork for a year, hardly great science.
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The article specifically says he WAS skipping meals.
I suppose another point I would make, is that preventative healthcare and services reduces healthcare and related costs – so any economic arguments against providing better service is bupkis.
Not everybody is as knowledgeable on nutrition as BW or OC, there are still a substantial number of people without access to the internet (2 years ago, some 2.8mil were highly excluded from online services). Your circumstances aren’t universal – some people need more help than you do.
Badthinker @ #76 Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024 – 10:39 am
There are heaps of native vitamin C sources. Kakadu plums, for example have 2 orders of magnitude more than most exotic citrus.
You really are a bad thinker.
Will Hume put some meat onto the bones of her doorstop by arguing that the Coalition should put religious based parties at the bottom of their HTV’s thus putting Labor 2nd or 3rd on their HTV when the Green PV is above 20%.
I think not so Bridget Hume’s doorstop was just humbug.
Badthinker,
He was skipping meals.
“The doctors discovered the patient – who was unemployed and lived alone – had financial constraints which meant he mostly ate processed food, lacking in vegetables or fruit. The patient sometimes skipped meals, something which had occurred more frequently in recent weeks.”
You do not get scurvy by skipping meals.
If you buy more expensive prepared foods than preparing your own meals, you are more likely to have to skip meals. And to get scurvy.
Badthinker @ #77 Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024 – 10:39 am
The aboriginal diet had a significant amount of greens including yam daisies which had high Vit C content
Socratessays:
Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 10:49 am
BW
If I was buying an EV now and looking for good value, I would buy an MG4 or BYD Atto 3 without hesitation. Both are now $40K or less and excellent value at that point.
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I went with the GWM Ora, though I think it’s appeal is limited (small boot, ‘fun’ design). I got it because I thought it was the cutest, though was considering the BYD Dolphin, and BYD Seal also.
The EV life is great – I love not having to go to petrol stations ever. We charge the car once a week, its been reliable, its fun to drive, really no complaints at all.
No novated lease, or rebates available, but EVs are not retaining value even a little bit, so you can probably save big on even a young used EV from a legacy manufacturer.
97 cents buys you an orange at Coles.
How hard is that?
https://www.coles.com.au/browse/fruit-vegetables/fruit/oranges?srsltid=AfmBOopsUlzWJKIIvtpbZof5tu2BSKnHxwNU6Xf_kSsui_Zkp7WimxdN
Quote from a scientific article on recent cases of scurvy in western Sydney:
The recently reported cases of scurvy reflect poor-quality diets that don’t include sufficient fruit and vegetables. Half of Australians aged over 18 meet the recommended guidelines of eating two or more daily serves of fruit.
Only 7% of the population meet the guidelines for vegetables – five to six or more servings for men depending on age, and five or more for women. Only one in 20 (5.1%) adults meet both.
The situation is not limited to Australia. In the United Kingdom, it has been claimed wartime diseases such as scurvy are being seen in children because of diets high in junk food, which are worse for them than rationing was 70 years ago.
https://www.uow.edu.au/media/2016/explainer-what-is-scurvy-and-is-it-making-a-comeback.php