Essential Research has not published voting intention numbers with its latest fortnightly poll, which hopefully doesn’t portend anything. It does include the pollster’s monthly leadership ratings, which find Anthony Albanese steady at both 46% approval and 43% disapproval, while Peter Dutton is down two to 36% and steady on 43%. A monthly “national mood” question has 34% rating that Australia is heading in the right direction, up one, which wrong direction steady at 48%.
Of those voting no at the referendum, 41% favoured “will divide Australia in the constitution on the basis of race” as the preferred reason out of four options, with “not enough detail” at 27%, “won’t make a real difference” at 19% and “will give Indigenous Australians rights and privileges that other Australians don’t have” at 13%. On the Israel-Palestine conflict, 37% professed themselves satisfied with the government’s response with 19% dissatisfied. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1125.
The latest voting intention numbers for Roy Morgan have Labor’s two-party lead out from 53-47 to 54-46, from primary votes of Labor 35% (up two), Coalition 34% (steady) and Greens 14% (up half).
A 50yo Hayden would’ve beaten the ATM govt in 2019.
c@t: “And you don’t think that explains Matt Gaetz? ”
I still prefer to see him as Jack Nicholson chasing Shelley Duval around that big hotel in the Rockies. I think he’s crazy and destructive all by himself, and doesn’t need Trump or anyone else to wind him up.
Rex Douglas says:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 5:12 pm
“Bill Shorten, who could have saved us from three years of Morrison. The country would be in better shape now had he won, as expected, in 2019.”
A 50yo Hayden would’ve beaten the ATM govt in 2019.
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Your mind is fascinating. How did you come up with this concept? Does it involve a Hot Tub Time Machine? 🙂
NB:- I watched the film. Please do not ask why I was subjected to it. At least the producers paid for a decent soundtrack.
Rainman @ #940 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 4:41 pm
Because, unlike you, we respect our Moderator’s request to not discuss the issue you are itching to discuss. You should respect the authority of the Moderator here on this blog too. There are other sites where you can sound off about your support for Hamas (yes, you code it behind a generalised support of innocent Palestinians, which no one here disagrees with, actually). Just like the protests. Where they only decry the ‘catastrophe’ on the Palestinian side. When there are two sides to the ‘catastrophe’, but only one side started it.
And that’s it from me, because I’m adult enough to realise that there’s nothing to be gained by biased, inflammatory rhetoric about this subject.
meher baba @ #952 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 5:13 pm
I heard yesterday from Rick Wilson that he lives off ‘Red Bull and crushed up ED medicines’. 😆
In how many ways would a government shut down in the US have an effect on Australia?
A bit left-field, this question I’m putting to the board. If taking money out of a domestic economy is (ceteris paribus) deflationary, why doesn’t anyone mount the argument that foreign aid can help combat a cost-of-living crisis?
Meanwhile on this site, everybody seems obsessed with who will be the Speaker in the US.
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And cricket. Submarines. Good places for lunch in Clare. And huntsmen spiders. And occasionally the amount or lack of precipitation. And how my mums black pudding is soooooo black, even the white bits are black.
C@tmomma
Dear self appointed Deputy Sheriff,
My post was in relation to Australian politics.
Cheers,
Rainman
Boewar: US shutdown effect on Australia
1. Fall in stock markets worldwide that would impact workers super and retirees investments
2. Major fall in our export markets (particularly food) and unemployment to rise
3. Fall in the $A means imports costs up including petrol prices
4. Fall in our GDP also means a fall in tax receipts and increased deficit
5. Rise in interest rates to protect the $A
Rainmansays:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 5:11 pm
Holden Hillbilly:
‘No funding for Israel, Ukraine…’
Sounds good to me.
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Why? Between Russia and Ukraine, civilians are only being killed, raped, assaulted, tortured, imprisoned, abducted, displaced, looted and traumatised on one side: Ukrainians, by Russians. Surely, you can’t have meant to express satisfaction at those millions of innocent civilians being attacked in those ways by Russia without any support from the US to resist this attempted genocide?
Paul. Good Q. My guess is percentages. We spend something like 0.2% of gni on aid. Double it and it wouldn’t make much of a diff to inflation. Also, some of the aid money comes back in the form of profit and wages to Australian companies, staff and consultants and possibly goods as well.
That qualifier doesn’t really narrow the field down as, typically, the best people I can think of have never become Prime Minister.
Paul @ #957 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 5:23 pm
Because the Right Wing employ cutting aid to other countries as a tool in their Culture War toolbox, they therefore wouldn’t support it as an economic measure. Also, to be deflationary it would have to be a lot of aid, I would imagine.
Ashasays:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:26 pm
I’d be astonished if there was a single person who remembered the Shaq endorsement by the time they were actually voting.
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I remembered it, but I always remember cringeworthy stunts.
It’s up there with Gillard on the patrol boat out looking for people smugglers.
For Rainman, and anyone else indulging in bogus moral equivalency between Ukraine and Russia, this was reported today:
“The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine released a report on on Oct. 20 investigating on rape and torture in occupied Ukrainian territories. The Commission found new evidence that Russian authorities committed a number of war crimes, including willful killing, torture, rape and other sexual violence, and the deportation of children to the Russian Federation.
The Commission emphasized that new research further demonstrates that Russian authorities use torture “in a widespread and systematic way in various types of detention facilities which they maintained.” Additionally, the report documented a number of instances in which “Russian soldiers burst into houses of villages they occupied, raped women and a girl, and committed additional war crimes against the victims and their family members.”
Previous reports on sexual and gender-based violence focused on nine provinces in Ukraine and the Russian Federation. This most recent report investigated Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, and discovered multiple cases of rapes and sexual violence in a district of Kherson province.
Among the cases investigated, victims of rape ranged from a 16-year-old girl and women aged from 19 to 83 years. One of the victims was a 16-year-old pregnant girl, three were older women, some living alone, or with young children, or with family members living with a disability. Sexual violence cases were perpetrated with use of force or psychological coercion. Most of the incidents occurred after Russian soldiers broke into the victims’ homes.”
https://kyivindependent.com/un-commission-releases-report-on-rape-and-torture-in-occupied-territories/
People visit internet forums for many reasons, one of them being simple enjoyment. And it’s generally more enjoyable to point and laugh at a rabble of conservative idiots over in the US than it is to argue pointlessly about a horrible, neverending war that started before most of us were born and will probably still be going long after we have all died of old age.
Taylormade @ #965 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 5:43 pm
And Scott Morrison crash tackling that little kid.
The only thing I really remember about the Shaq incident is being floored by just how many people here have never heard of Shaquille O’Neal!
Taylormadesays:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 5:43 pm
I remembered it, but I always remember cringeworthy stunts.
It’s up there with Gillard on the patrol boat out looking for people smugglers.
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I think ScoMo the Hairdresser takes that particular biscuit. Don’t you? Or maybe ScoMo getting a little too physically vigorous tackling a young boy in a football match. What do you think?
Not only do I not remember this, it’s literally the first I’ve ever heard of it.
Rainman @ #959 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 5:32 pm
Yes, it was a neat way to express your general opinion.
C@tmommasays:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 5:47 pm
And Scott Morrison crash tackling that little kid.
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Snap!
Asha @ #969 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 5:19 pm
The character from Shaq Fu?
Asha @ #971 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 5:20 pm
Gillard, like plenty of other women in the ALP (and the left of centre in general), live rent-free in Taylormade’s head.
When it comes to cringeworthy moments in Australian politics, surely nothing will ever beat this:
https://youtu.be/W07iytEr9lY?si=HVIsKAD36BMmBfSn
Paul @ #970 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 5:50 pm
Or Scott Morrison doing Barre exercises. Did he wear a tutu?
Oh, I remember a good one. Scott Morrison going to Christmas Island, paid for by the taxpayers, to make an announcement that he could’ve made in Canberra.
Australia’s foreign aid spending is overwhelmingly used to mobilise labour, goods, and services that are supplied by the Australian domestic economy. Therefore it doesn’t reduce the aggregate spending power of Australian households and businesses.
A bit of a personal favourite is Abbott’s “Here’s your bloody broom back”, unceremoniously handing the prop back to a helper a few seconds before the cameras stopped rolling.
Wat:
And the star of that celebrated 90s classic, Kazaam.
TK & C@t, yes, volume matters for policies to really impact price inflation. What a pity it is so difficult to frame ‘more foreign aid’ as ‘less upward pressure on prices here’ and ‘fewer push factors for asylum seekers there’.
Paul:
‘Why? Between Russia and Ukraine, civilians are only being killed, raped, assaulted, tortured, imprisoned, abducted, displaced, looted and traumatised on one side: Ukrainians, by Russians. Surely, you can’t have meant to express satisfaction at those millions of innocent civilians being attacked in those ways by Russia without any support from the US to resist this attempted genocide?’
Wars only end in one of two ways:
1/Total victory.
In my opinion, it is highly unlikely Ukraine will ever drive the Russians into the Black Sea.
2/ Negotiated settlement.
In my opinion, this is the only realistic way this war will end.
In my opinion, US support for Ukraine will ensure a perpetual war, which will lead to the never ending deaths of innocent civilians. Surely, you don’t want that?
Asha @ #980 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 5:24 pm
No, that was Sinbad. And the movie was called Shazaam. 😛
Let’s not forget Tony Abbott – who, frankly, was the king of cringe. Although, it didn’t stop him from becoming PM in the end.
Also, this might be unpopular to some on here but every time Rudd tried to act cool or in on a joke, it was cringey AF.
Nicholassays:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 5:53 pm
Australia’s foreign aid spending is overwhelmingly used to mobilise labour, goods, and services that are supplied by the Australian domestic economy. Therefore it doesn’t reduce the aggregate spending power of Australian households and businesses.
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Nicholas, thank you, that is an extremely good point. I wonder how easy it would be, politically, to earmark at least some of the foreign aid we give as unconditional money gifts, to be spent ‘over there’ as they see fit and not necessarily involving our own productive effort to supply? That would at least solve the ‘boomerang inflation’ effect your speaking of here.
Also, any politician (regardless of where they are on the political spectrum) who memes. Please stop.
‘Rainman says:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 5:56 pm
Paul:
‘Why? Between Russia and Ukraine, civilians are only being killed, raped, assaulted, tortured, imprisoned, abducted, displaced, looted and traumatised on one side: Ukrainians, by Russians. Surely, you can’t have meant to express satisfaction at those millions of innocent civilians being attacked in those ways by Russia without any support from the US to resist this attempted genocide?’
Wars only end in one of two ways:
1/Total victory.
In my opinion, it is highly unlikely Ukraine will ever drive the Russians into the Black Sea.
2/ Negotiated settlement.
In my opinion, this is the only realistic way this war will end.
In my opinion, US support for Ukraine will ensure a perpetual war, which will lead to the never ending deaths of innocent civilians. Surely, you don’t want that?’
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Classic Putinista tankie line.
Rainmansays:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 5:56 pm
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Absolutely, this war, like all others bar WW2, will end in negotiations. The question is whether Ukraine, as the innocent victim of this invasion, should be in effect forced to desist from resisting that invasion while they are still in a position where their negotiating position vis-a-vis Moscow is still relatively disadvantageous to them. I think we in the West owe it to the Ukrainians to do our best to equip them to fight their best against this monstrous invasion, at least until it is apparent that a negotiation will result in the complete departure of hostile Russian forces from Ukraine.
Remember, the documented human rights abuses by Russian soldiers against Ukrainian civilians under occupation demonstrates why it is inhuman to expect them to just be ceded to Moscow’s authority. The killings, rapes, tortures, imprisonment, abduction and looting may very well not suddenly cease just because the world colludes in turning its collective gaze away, under the cloak of ‘sovereignty ceded to Moscow’.
Paul – Or foreign investment by Australians would be something that could be encouraged to decrease domestic spending.
Then there was the time Scott Morrison tried out using a giant mop on the floor of a flood-zone basketball court that was reportedly already clean. 😀
Paul, on Ukraine:
Well said
Boerwar
‘Classic Putinista tankie line.’
Saw that coming.
I vaguely recall Albo introducing some Afro American guy he referred to as “the shack” and they said something about the Voice, but the memory soon disappeared, overwritten by all the other stuff going on then and since. Hardly anyone would remember, except maybe fans of whatever sport he plays. It had no impact one way or the other.
Rainman says:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 6:15 pm
Boerwar
‘Classic Putinista tankie line.’
Saw that coming.
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No prize there. It’s bleeding obvious. Funny how the same people here who want Ukraine abandoned to its fate are desperate to save lives elsewhere.
The attempt to use Shaquille O’Neal in the Voice campaign has to be one of the strange things to happen in the whole referendum. It disappeared without much of whimper either. The only thing he did was to make Linda Burney look tiny.
B.S. Fairmansays:
Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 6:11 pm
Paul – Or foreign investment by Australians would be something that could be encouraged to decrease domestic spending.
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BSF, that as well. Coupled with some way of putting the flow of earnings off those investments into some sort of ‘deep freeze’, to be accessed when economic activity needs a boost.
Maybe if they had brought in Jordan instead, the referendum might have stood a chance. 😛
A year later, and I’m still just as baffled by the existence of people who have managed to spend their entire lives in a western, English-speaking country without knowing who Shaq is. It’s got nothing to do with whether you are into basketball or not (I’ve never watched an NBA game in my life), it’s just something that gets absorbed through osmosis from hearing the gazillion or so references and jokes that have been made about the guy in various forms of media since the early 90s. It’s like having never heard of Michael Jackson or Brad Pitt or Princess Diana.
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2023/10/will-spirit-of-hare-clark-be-killed-by.html
Will The Spirit Of Hare-Clark Be Killed By Farce?
The fairness of Tasmania’s electoral system is under threat from bumbling major party politicians.
Asha @ #998 Saturday, October 21st, 2023 – 6:08 pm
I can imagine a few people on here just sneered at it as “Yank rubbish” back in the 90s, and blocked their ears to it.