Miscellany: polls, preselections and the Coalition’s Gen Z problem

New research argues the Coalition will need to do something dramatic to win favour among emerging generations if it ever wants to govern again.

We’re probably due a Resolve Strategic poll in the coming week, and Newspoll’s quarterly aggregates with state-level results and other breakdowns will likely be upon us shortly. For now, there’s the following poll-wise:

• A JWS Research poll finds 46% intending to vote yes in the Indigenous Voice referendum against 43% for no, with 11% uncommitted. Even allowing for small samples, the state breakdowns have unintuitive results, showing clear leads for yes in Western Australia and no in New South Wales, and statistical ties in Victoria, Queensland and South Australia. The poll was conducted from June 2 to 6 from a sample of 1122. This comes attached to the pollster’s quarterly True Issues survey on issue salience, which as you might expect finds housing and interest rates continuing to track upwards while hospitals, health care and ageing continues to decline from its pandemic-era highs. Thirty-seven per cent rate the government’s performance as very good or good compared with 23% for poor or very poor, both results unchanged on last time.

• The weekly federal voting intention numbers from Roy Morgan have Labor’s two-party lead steady at 57-43, which is presumably influenced by a change in preference flows, because the primary votes have Labor up one to 37.5%, the Coalition down two to 32% and the Greens steady on 13%.

Other news:

• A paper by Matthew Taylor for conservative think tank the Centre for Independent Studies reached the headline-grabbing conclusion that the Coalition stands to lose the next six federal elections if present generational trends continue to play out uninterrupted. While the paper finds evidence that Generation X (born 1965 to 1980) is following the previously established trend towards conservatism as it ages, its analysis of Australian Election Study survey data paints a distinctly unpromising picture for the Coalition among Millennials (born 1981 to 1995) and especially Generation Z (after 1995). The former started from a lower base of Coalition support than previous generations and is showing only tentative movement to conservatism with the onset of middle age (more discernible is movement from the Greens to Labor). The starting point for Gen Z was lower still and has, from an admittedly shallow pool of data, since collapsed altogether, to the extent that Coalition support is now 25% lower than for the population as a whole — although the movement has been to the none-of-the-above category rather than Labor.

• Matthew Killoran of the Courier-Mail reports that right-wing Queensland Senator Gerard Rennick faces four preselection challengers for his third position on the Senate ticket at the Liberal National Party’s state conference next weekend. In addition to those already reported — Nelson Savanh of strategic communications firm Michelson Alexander and private investment fund director Stuart Fraser — are Mitchell Dickens, a former staffer to Rennick and party operative based on the Sunshine Coast, and Sophia Li, a former political adviser who has made a few guest appearances on Amanda Stoker’s program on Sky News. Incumbent Paul Scarr is also under challenge for his top position from Li and Fiona Ward, who was recently overlooked for the Fadden by-election, but is not reckoned to be in any trouble.

• Following earlier reports of a challenge from Mary Aldred, the Sentinel Times reports South Gippsland mayor Nathan Hersey will also run for preselection against Russell Broadbent, the 72-year-old Liberal member for the Victorian seat of Monash.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

1,021 comments on “Miscellany: polls, preselections and the Coalition’s Gen Z problem”

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  1. William, hello from La France profound, where to my shock three cars were torched on Thursday.

    My take is was local white supremicists and drug dealers – it was well planned, and the van of the Police Municipale was the first car torched. They wore balaclavas – there was nothing spontaneous about it.

    Anyway, I would like to increase my monthly contribution, to buy you a couple more coffee. I cannot work out how to change the donation, but probably I am not doing my research well enough.

    let me know the best way to do this.

    and thanks as ever for running this fantastic blog.

  2. The prospect of an end to Gerard Rennick’s chequered Senate career is appealing.

    Even if the field of wannabe replacements — a ‘strategic communication’ staffer, investment fund director, party operative and political adviser — all come from Liberal party central casting.

  3. “New research argues the Coalition will need to do something dramatic to win favour among emerging generations if it ever wants to govern again.”

    ‘New’ research that draws from the same data as, and reaches similar conclusions to, Simon Jackman’s analysis in The Guardian 7 months ago:

    “If and how the Coalition addresses this overwhelming deficit of support among younger generations is perhaps the single biggest question in Australian politics.”

    Of course, we shouldn’t expect original thought from the Centre for Independent (sic) Studies.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/05/millennials-and-gen-z-have-deserted-the-coalition-this-could-be-dire-for-the-opposition

  4. Oliver Sutton @ #2 Sunday, July 2nd, 2023 – 4:40 am

    The prospect of an end to Gerard Rennick’s chequered Senate career is appealing.

    Even if the field of wannabe replacements — a ‘strategic communication’ staffer, investment fund director, party operative and political adviser — all come from Liberal party central casting.

    Which goes to another important point to make about the Liberal and National/LNP vote share/demographic. That, even if they do attract Millennials and Gen Z, they tend to come from the ^ above types of people within that cohort. Whose tendency towards the modern Conservative mindset, small government, reward for individual effort, religious most likely, has already become established. So they have nothing to grow into.

    Of course, one hopes that like Charlotte Mortlock yesterday, they see the error of their ways as they age. 😉

  5. Douglas and Milko @ #1 Sunday, July 2nd, 2023 – 3:29 am

    William, hello from La France profound, where to my shock three cars were torched on Thursday.

    My take is was local white supremicists and drug dealers – it was well planned, and the van of the Police Municipale was the first car torched. They wore balaclavas – there was nothing spontaneous about it.

    Anyway, I would like to increase my monthly contribution, to buy you a couple more coffee. I cannot work out how to change the donation, but probably I am not doing my research well enough.

    let me know the best way to do this.

    and thanks as ever for running this fantastic blog.

    Yes, but you can’t escape the fact that Police killed a 17yo boy, at point blank range, is the match that started the blaze.

  6. “The Foreign Ministers of Australia, Canada and the UK are deeply concerned by recent events in Israel and the West Bank which further reduce the prospects for peace.”

    https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/penny-wong/media-release/joint-statement-australia-canada-and-united-kingdom-following-recent-events-israel-and-west-bank

    These “recent events” are not that recent. They have been going on for decades and it is well past the time to just be “deeply concerned“ about them. Australia should impose (and encourage other countries to impose) trade, investment, diplomatic, academic and sports sanctions on Israel.

    It’s most likely that Israeli actions in the Occupied Territories mean that a two-state solution is no longer possible but a boycott of Israel is probably the only way that some other solution may be achieved.

  7. Resolve Political Monitor has dropped.

    Labor has retained a strong national lead over the Coalition but has lost ground in Queensland during six months of political dispute over the cost of living, cutting support for the federal government in a key state that has also shifted against the Indigenous Voice.

    Queensland voters’ support for Labor has fallen from 37 per cent to 34 per cent since the government soared to record highs in the polls late last year, tightening the race with the Coalition ahead of the July 15 byelection for the Gold Coast seat of Fadden.

    But that reversal has been offset by an increase in Labor’s primary vote from 39 to 43 per cent in NSW and steady support for the party at 42 per cent in Victoria over the past six months, giving the government a powerful lead over the Coalition.

    The exclusive results show Labor increased its primary vote to 41 per cent nationwide over the three months to June, up from 40 per cent in the three months to December last year and significantly higher than the election result of 32.6 per cent last May.

    The findings from the Resolve Political Monitor, conducted exclusively for this masthead and based on responses from 4587 voters from April to June, reveal a primary vote strong enough to cement Labor in power, with gains in more than a dozen seats if the vote was replicated at the next election.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-loses-ground-in-queensland-holds-winning-lead-nationwide-20230627-p5djy5.html

  8. Voters favour Albanese over Dutton as preferred prime minister by 54 to 21 per cent nationwide, with similar results in most states but slightly higher support for Dutton in his home state of Queensland.

    Men prefer Albanese over Dutton as prime minister by 57 to 22 per cent while women prefer Albanese by 51 to 19 per cent, with the remainder undecided.

    And how’s the Trump-heavy strategy going for you, Peter?

    The Coalition has suffered a series of setbacks at a national level, with its primary vote falling from 36 per cent at the election to 31 per cent in the December quarter and 29 per cent in the June quarter.

    The national trend hides movements in states including Queensland, where Labor made big gains last year but has lost ground in the most recent quarter.

    Labor’s primary vote in Queensland rose from 27 per cent at the May election to 37 per cent in the December quarter but fell to 34 per cent in the June quarter.

    That shift has failed to deliver success for the Liberal National Party in Queensland, however, with its support tumbling from 40 per cent at the election to 35 per cent in the December quarter and 33 per cent in the latest quarter.

    The Coalition has not made any gains in any other state since the December-quarter results, slipping in the latest quarter from 32 per cent to 31 per cent in NSW, from 29 per cent to 27 per cent in Victoria, from 26 per cent to 22 per cent in SA and from 30 per cent to 29 per cent in Western Australia.

    Labor’s primary vote in SA rose from 35 per cent at the May election to 46 per cent in the December quarter and was steady at 46 per cent in the June quarter.

    In WA, the party won seats with 37 per cent of the primary vote at the election and gained 38 per cent support in the December quarter, lifting this to 46 per cent in the June quarter. The figures for states such as WA and SA are based on smaller samples to reflect the population size in each state, which means they have a greater margin of error and should be treated with caution.

  9. And The Greens’ strategy to flood Millennial and Gen Z social media, and the media zone, generally, has shown their vote going … nowhere:

    The Greens have held their vote at 12 per cent from the election to the June quarter, highlighting the challenges for the party in galvanising support at a national level to build on its success in winning three Queensland seats in the lower house last May.

    While Greens leader Adam Bandt is campaigning against the government on housing, with a door-knocking appeal for greater action than Labor’s $10 billion housing fund, that strategy is yet to deliver a national gain. This can be difficult to measure because changes in the Greens’ vote are almost always within the margin of error for national polls.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-loses-ground-in-queensland-holds-winning-lead-nationwide-20230627-p5djy5.html

  10. The SMH has details of the summation of Resole Strategic polling over the April – June quarter. Labor still well ahead overall but softening in Qld.

    “ Labor has retained a strong national lead over the Coalition but has lost ground in Queensland during six months of political dispute over the cost of living, cutting support for the federal government in a key state that has also shifted against the Indigenous Voice.

    Queensland voters’ support for Labor has fallen from 37 per cent to 34 per cent since the government soared to record highs in the polls late last year, tightening the race with the Coalition ahead of the July 15 byelection for the Gold Coast seat of Fadden.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-loses-ground-in-queensland-holds-winning-lead-nationwide-20230627-p5djy5.html

  12. Labor and Albanese honeymoon seems to be getting stronger after 14 months since 21st may 2022 federal election

    Qld is the only state which will supports Lib/nats , which only gives them 20 odd seats , they need to find 55+ seats else where

  13. The corrupt lib/nats and their propaganda media units still are not getting it , attacking Labor with personal political attacks have not been working

  15. Attacking Katy Gallagher and Saint Penny Wong (take that, ‘Saint’ Gladys!), doesn’t appear to have worked either.

    Here’s an idea that the Coalition should adopt. Policies. 😐

  16. Resolve, per C@t:

    “Labor’s primary vote in Queensland rose from 27 per cent at the May election to 37 per cent in the December quarter but fell to 34 per cent in the June quarter.

    “That shift has failed to deliver success for the Liberal National Party in Queensland, however, with its support tumbling from 40 per cent at the election to 35 per cent in the December quarter and 33 per cent in the latest quarter.”

    A lot of words to say that, since the last election, Labor’s primary vote is up 7 points and the LNP’s is down 7 points.

  17. In a phone call in late 2020, President Donald Trump tried to pressure Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey (R) to overturn the state’s presidential election results, saying that if enough fraudulent votes could be found it would overcome Trump’s narrow loss in Arizona, according to three people familiar with the call.

    Trump also repeatedly asked Vice President Mike Pence to call Ducey and prod him to find the evidence to substantiate Trump’s claims of fraud, according to two of these people. Pence called Ducey several times to discuss the election, they said, though he did not follow Trump’s directions to pressure the governor.

    The extent of Trump’s efforts to cajole Ducey into helping him stay in power has not before been reported, even as other efforts by Trump’s lawyer and allies to pressure Arizona officials have been made public. Ducey told reporters in December 2020 that he and Trump had spoken, but he declined to disclose the contents of the call then or in the more than two years since. Although he disagreed with Trump about the outcome of the election, Ducey has sought to avoid a public battle with Trump.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/01/trump-2020-election-arizona-governor-doug-ducey/

  18. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    Labor has retained a strong national lead over the Coalition but has lost ground in Queensland during six months of political dispute over the cost of living, cutting support for the federal government in a key state that has also shifted against the Indigenous Voice, writes David Crowe referencing polling which also shews better support in other populous states.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/labor-loses-ground-in-queensland-holds-winning-lead-nationwide-20230627-p5djy5.html
    The bias against voting Liberal or National has grown with each generation since the Baby Boomers and this is fast becoming a crisis for the conservative side of politics, writes James Campbell.
    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/campbell-right-left-out-in-the-cold/news-story/950a3d3e8705fd74334cbf4997c5ae1c
    Don’t believe the spin: Berejiklian was no feminine victim of a bad man, declares Jacqui Maley who says he idea that the former premier was some sort of baffled, guileless feminine victim of a bad man is off-key. It pushes Berejiklian into the submissive role her dodgy boyfriend wanted for her – a woman who was not the boss of her own decisions.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/don-t-believe-the-spin-berejiklian-was-no-feminine-victim-of-a-bad-man-20230630-p5dkti.html
    The Reserve Bank should pause lifting interest rates because a “deflationary shock” is beginning to sweep the global economy, according to the former RBA board member Warwick McKibbin.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/02/rba-should-pause-rate-rises-as-deflationary-shock-sweeps-global-economy-former-board-member-says
    Mike Foley writes that the competition watchdog has urged Queensland gas producers to sign supply deals with local buyers to fill the forecast shortfall as NSW and Victoria face the prospect of winter shortages.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/winter-gas-shortage-risk-for-nsw-victoria-20230630-p5dksm.html
    The new National Anti-Corruption Commission faces high expectations – and a potential mountain of work, predicts Professor A J Brown.
    https://theconversation.com/the-new-national-anti-corruption-commission-faces-high-expectations-and-a-potential-mountain-of-work-208019
    Young people are being “inundated” with gambling ads in their everyday lives, particularly sports betting ads and social casino games, amid unprecedented levels of exposure for at-risk adolescents. Mostafa Rachwani tells us that children between 12 and 17 who are at risk of becoming problem gamblers reported a wide range of sources that promote gambling, including in their home, school, social, digital and media environments.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/02/australian-teens-inundated-with-gambling-ads-amid-unprecedented-levels-of-exposure-reports-show
    The head of five inner-Sydney hospitals has stared down calls to resign after staff at one claimed they had suffered a “death from a thousand cuts”, leading to a massive backlog of unreported scans. The Sydney Local Health District, a state government agency, defended chief executive Teresa Anderson on Friday, after a vote of no confidence in her leadership was carried at a meeting of the medical staff council at Concord Hospital.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/staff-in-revolt-as-thousands-of-scans-go-unchecked-at-sydney-hospital-20230627-p5djuo.html
    It was a murder that shocked the nation and left a man in jail with no hope of parole. Innocent or guilty, that man, Phoung Ngo, deserves to be pardoned, writes Mac Halliday.
    https://michaelwest.com.au/almost-30-years-on-the-man-convicted-of-killing-politician-john-newman-deserves-to-be-pardoned-here-is-why/
    “Donald Trump was allegedly creepy about Ivanka – but will his fans care?”, asks Arwa Mahdawi.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/01/donald-trump-ivanka-miles-taylor-book-claims

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  19. Sounds like another anti-transparency measure from Musk.

    Elon Musk announced Saturday that Twitter will temporarily limit the number of tweets users can read per day — with separate limits for paid and unpaid users — to combat computer programs that comb through posts to extract useful data from the platform.

    It’s unclear how long the limits will last, and what lifting them will depend on. Musk did not respond to a request for comment.

    Under the new limits, verified accounts will be limited to reading 6,000 posts per day while unverified accounts will have access to 600 per day, Musk tweeted. New unverified users, who join the platform after Saturday’s announcement, can only access 300 posts per day.

    On Friday, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO in a tweet expressed dismay at what he characterized as “extreme levels of data scaping” by artificial intelligence companies. He again cited data scraping on Saturday as a reason for imposing the limit. Chatbots like ChatGPT rely on troves of data, mostly scraped from the internet.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/07/01/elon-musk-new-twitter-user-limits/

  20. C@tmomma says:
    Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:08 am
    Resolve Political Monitor has dropped.

    Labor has retained a strong national lead over the Coalition but has lost ground in Queensland during six months of political dispute over the cost of living, cutting support for the federal government in a key state that has also shifted against the Indigenous Voice.
    ————————————-

    C@T

    QLD seems to be an inexplicably hopeless case for Labor federally but no matter as long as things don’t get worse than last election. Much better news nationally though, again, particularly in the broader context of inflation, interest rates, home ownership and renting. The naysayers aren’t gaining any traction.

  21. Scott: “Qld is the only state which will supports Lib/nats …”

    On the latest Resolve analysis it’s actually a statistical tie in Queensland:

    Labor 34%
    LNP 33%

  22. Throttling Twitter is not going to help it. Musk should just let the AI chatbots do their thing. Getting in the way of progress and trying to stop it has never worked for anyone or any legacy media.

  23. Don’t believe the spin: Berejiklian was no feminine victim of a bad man, declares Jacqui Maley who says he idea that the former premier was some sort of baffled, guileless feminine victim of a bad man is off-key. It pushes Berejiklian into the submissive role her dodgy boyfriend wanted for her – a woman who was not the boss of her own decisions.

    Exactly! The spin from the Liberals is offensive to women and bizarre that Berejiklian allowed herself to be portrayed in such a way.

  24. SMH, per BK:

    “Labor … has lost ground in Queensland during six months of political dispute …”

    Interesting spin on Resolve’s finding that Labor has gained a lot of ground — 7 points of primary vote — during the 14 months since the election.

  25. C@t:

    Musk should’ve stuck to EVs. Getting into the world of social media has brought his inner Trumpist troll to the surface.

  26. Oliver Sutton @ #24 Sunday, July 2nd, 2023 – 7:04 am

    SMH, per BK:

    “Labor … has lost ground in Queensland during six months of political dispute …”

    Interesting spin on Resolve’s finding that Labor has gained a lot of ground — 7 points of primary vote — during the 14 months since the election.

    Yes I was looking at that. In fact it’s the LNP which has lost ground in Qld!

  27. Confessions says:
    Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 7:02 am
    Don’t believe the spin: Berejiklian was no feminine victim of a bad man, declares Jacqui Maley who says he idea that the former premier was some sort of baffled, guileless feminine victim of a bad man is off-key. It pushes Berejiklian into the submissive role her dodgy boyfriend wanted for her – a woman who was not the boss of her own decisions.
    Exactly! The spin from the Liberals is offensive to women and bizarre that Berejiklian allowed herself to be portrayed in such a way.
    ———————————————-

    The important point which the corrupt Lib/nats and their propaganda media units are ignoring

    That the Bum Daryl Maguire was a member of the lib/nats coalition , it shows what kind of people they endorse

  28. Oliver Sutton says:
    Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:54 am
    Scott: “Qld is the only state which will supports Lib/nats …”

    On the latest Resolve analysis it’s actually a statistical tie in Queensland:

    Labor 34%
    LNP 33%
    ————————–

    Lol , i take that back , the LNP are in serious trouble

  30. Confessions: “… bizarre that Berejiklian allowed herself to be portrayed in such a way.”

    A desperate defence of the indefensible, after Calamity Glad’s secret love was no secret any more.

    (Edit: OP was Confessions, not C@t)

  31. Confessions @ #23 Sunday, July 2nd, 2023 – 7:02 am

    Don’t believe the spin: Berejiklian was no feminine victim of a bad man, declares Jacqui Maley who says he idea that the former premier was some sort of baffled, guileless feminine victim of a bad man is off-key. It pushes Berejiklian into the submissive role her dodgy boyfriend wanted for her – a woman who was not the boss of her own decisions.

    Exactly! The spin from the Liberals is offensive to women and bizarre that Berejiklian allowed herself to be portrayed in such a way.

    Made my head spin at how quickly the Liberals mobilised in the media to re-sanctify Gladys.

    It’s going to become a bit obvious as a PR strategy though, when the hits keep on coming, as they get nick NACCed paddy-whacked. 😉

  32. C@t: “Made my head spin at how quickly the Liberals mobilised in the media to re-sanctify Gladys.”

    The Liberals are “soft on corruption”, it seems.

  33. “It was a murder that shocked the nation and left a man in jail with no hope of parole. Innocent or guilty, that man, Phoung Ngo, deserves to be pardoned, writes Mac Halliday.”

    He attacked the fabric of democracy for his own benefit by killing a good man in front of his wife and was indirectly responsible for Reba Meagher sitting in parliament.

    Computer says no.

  35. C@tmomma @ 6.08am.
    Re: Resolve Polling.
    Thanks for the precis, thanks for the link.
    It would appear that 1 year on, things are getting better and better.

  36. Today in Moscow:

    Suddenly, Yevgeny Prigozhin is a phantom. Is he in Belarus or St Petersburg? In unconfirmed footage that makes him look like a Bond villain, he struts across a rooftop, shadowed by a muscled bodyguard, takes a seat in a helicopter, and vanishes into the skies of St Petersburg.

    For nearly a decade, Prigozhin has sown scandal in Russia, creating a troll factory empire, leading Russia’s interference into foreign elections and bankrolling the Wagner mercenary group that fought in Ukraine and has propped up dictators in Africa.

    In last weekend’s mutiny, he also called for upheaval, leading an armed rebellion that many fear could turn to score-settling or even looting in Moscow, including the upmarket homes of Moscow’s wealthy Rublyovka district.

    “This call to go get those thieves in Rublyovka was revolutionary,” said Konstantin Remchukov, editor-in-chief of Nezavisimaya Gazeta, who saw Vladimir Putin last week at a closed-door meeting for top editors. “[The elite] truly fear Prigozhin as a possible alternative to Putin. There would be no guarantees, no protection, no rules to the game.”

    Instead, it is Prigozhin’s empire that will now crumble, ending a decade of his schemes and tricks doing some of the Kremlin’s dirtiest work.

    On Friday, Russia blocked the websites of the Ria Fan, Politics Today, Economy Today, Neva News and People’s News online media outlets, part of a constellation of online sites that pushed out fake news in support of Prigozhin’s agenda.

    The St Petersburg-based outlet Rotunda also reported that Prigozhin’s Internet Research Agency, a troll factory where low-paid interns would try to sow anger and distrust by writing aggressive comments under news and social media posts, had also been closed down.

    …

    Long seen as plausibly deniable, he will now be simply ignored as the Russian government seeks to maintain his overseas mercenary empire and its influence in Africa while eliminating Prigozhin’s personal role.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/01/yevgeny-prigozhin-russian-media-erase-warlord-wagner-moscow

  37. These polls make horrible reading for any LNP tragic ( like the little old bloke who is over at Lord’s right now). It seems that nothing short of total change would get the LNP on the right track to victory. I can see the problems they need to address – male dominated representation, their female reps are from that small grouping comfortable with this state of affairs and who mostly present as a bit unusual, infiltration by far out religious groups , the only youth they are attracting are the so called young fogies ( young men and women who dress like 45 year olds ,mainly there to find a good quality HNW partner), inability to change their policies to reflect modern times ( can’t agree to action on climate) business men from the new age supporting more moderate candidates like the teals because of this, adopting the policies of their country cousins which stink on ice in the cities ( even the Queensland capital is ditching the libs) . The only bright spot is the unwavering support of the murdochracy and to a lesser degree Mr Stokes and Ch.9 , problem here is that the young don’t buy into newspapers or commercial tv. In fact I’m officially an oldster and I hardly watch ABC anymore let alone the tripe on 9 and 7. As an ALP supporter who has watched the Lib/ Nat machine win most elections in my lifetime it’s hard to believe this to be true but I do think the Libs ,if not the Nats are in a lot of trouble (Nats support would survive any disaster). I think in future those more well heeled younger people will go to other parties maybe economically conservative yet more progressive in their general outlook than the libs who are now just intent on fighting culture wars to turn back to the pre 60s era. In fact they have the little bloke over in Lord’s right now to thank for at least some of these woes.

  38. Clem atlee, you’re reading posts I haven’t written yet.

    My posts pointed out the inconsistency with what England say about their cricket and how they played it yesterday. An obvious and fair criticism being made across the spectrum today. There are mindless hypocrites in this, but it isn’t me – England and you will see them when you brush your teeth.

    I made no comparison between how Australia played and how England played. But I can. You will find that, yes both used an unpleasant tactic (that needs a rule change to stop) but one team was far more relentless in its use. Maybe you didn’t watch. But if you want to accuse someone of being one eyed, you might want to back it up with more than your own bias.

    SMH says England bowled 98% short balls in that display of bounceball. They didn’t bother trying their quality spin bowler Root. Not one over. Australia bowled Head.

    Still not convinced?

    “Having made history in the morning session, by bowling the shortest average length of any session of Test cricket on record (9.71m), England decimated their own record in the afternoon session, bowling an average length of 11.05m.“
    https://twitter.com/cricvizanalyst/status/1675167497039802368

    https://amp.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/bazball-to-bouncer-barrage-england-finally-play-to-win-not-entertain-20230701-p5dl1o.html

  39. And leaving the pro Conservative headline and narrative behind, support for Labor has INCREASED in Queensland post the election result, placing several Coalition seats at risk including Dutton’s

    The headline is sub 30% support for the Coalition nationwide, virtually wiping out the Liberal Party from the metropolitan and regional Cities areas across Australia

    This with inherited inflation, driven by government pandemic recovery monies (housing on the Balance Sheets of Companies in Australia, remember), supply chain interruptions and the conflict in Eastern Europe now abating globally except for the post Brexit UK where interest rates were increased by a further 50 Basis Points last week

    In regards France, this replicates pro Nazi groups using the cover of an incident to inflict their damage and sow discontent

    We have seen this also in Victoria, Australia with marches in the streets and other activities

    Unfortunately, across Europe these Right Wing groups are gaining traction off the back of the responses to Covid and race

    They have always been there as World Wars attest

  40. Herald Sun 02/07
    Celebrities have been dumped in favour of ‘ordinary’ Australians as the face of the Voice to Parliament’s Yes campaign in response to falling support for the referendum.
    _____________________
    I don’t think they will getting Shaq back anytime soon.
    That was a disaster from Burney, I don’t know what she was thinking.
    It’s gone downhill ever since.

  41. Rebekha Sharkie is putting out a “Dogs of Mayo” 2023/4 calendar. She asked her constituents to send on photos of their dogs for consideration for inclusion.
    I was just informed that our dear departed Jasper will be the July dog.

  43. Taylormade @ #40 Sunday, July 2nd, 2023 – 8:49 am

    Herald Sun 02/07
    Celebrities have been dumped in favour of ‘ordinary’ Australians as the face of the Voice to Parliament’s Yes campaign in response to falling support for the referendum.
    _____________________
    I don’t think they will getting Shaq back anytime soon.
    That was a disaster from Burney, I don’t know what she was thinking.
    It’s gone downhill ever since.

    I think he was out here to do commercials for a betting company anyway, so no harm.

  44. ”
    C@tmommasays:
    Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:13 am
    Voters favour Albanese over Dutton as preferred prime minister by 54 to 21 per cent nationwide, with similar results in most states but slightly higher support for Dutton in his home state of Queensland.

    Men prefer Albanese over Dutton as prime minister by 57 to 22 per cent while women prefer Albanese by 51 to 19 per cent, with the remainder undecided.
    ”

    I am bit concerned that women prefer 51 to 22 Albanese over Dutton as PM when compared to men 57 to 22.
    Why?
    First of all 57% men prefer Albanese
    where as only 51% women prefer Albanese and a whopping 19% women prefer Dutton.
    My question is What are 19% women thinking?

  45. On ‘Insiders’, David Speers brought up the issue of how politicians of ALP and LNP are refusing to call Gladys B as a liar and corrupt person although ICAC says that.

  47. Interesting that Labor’s tirade of cooker abuse at the Greens had no effect on the Green primary in this poll.

    Seems Dutton’s short game strategy of conservative negativity isn’t cutting through on a national level. Hard to see how he survives as leader medium-long term.

  49. Or you could say that The Greens tirade of abuse directed at Labor hasn’t moved the dial in their favour one iota.

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