Without bursting out of the confines of the error margins, the monthly prime ministerial ratings featured in the fortnightly Essential Research poll give Anthony Albanese his highest approval rating to date, up two points to 60%. His disapproval is up one to 27%, which leaves him one point shy of his previous best net approval rating. However, an occasion question on the national direction finds a five-point increase since September for “wrong” to 34% and a two-point drop for “right” to 46%.
Once a lengthy explanatory spiel was out of the way, 50% expressed support and 27% opposition to the government’s multi-employer bargaining laws, and has further results supporting industrial relations policies that strengthen the hand of low-paid workers. The poll also finds 43% of the view that it is inappropriate for politicians to use Twitter, compared with 16% favouring the option that it is a “vital channel” for politicians and 41% for a middle course. The full report is here – the poll was conducted last Wednesday to Monday from a sample of 1035.
JWS Research has also released its occasional True Issues survey on issue salience, distinct from the one a fortnight ago that focused specifically on the budget. Asked unprompted to name the three most important issues, 44% came up with a response the pollster categorised as “cost of living”, up from 38% in August and all the way from 11% a year ago. Housing and interest rates increased over the year from 10% to 19%, which environment and climate change was steady at 26% and hospitals, health and ageing fell eight points to 29%. The poll was conducted October 28 to 31 from a sample of 1000, and also features results on national direction and government performance in various policy fields.
Note that a dedicated thread for discussion of the Victorian election continues in the post below.
OC/AE
“ A_E
If still about
re the Canberra Class discussion from a few days ago. Any truth that inter- service rivalry played a part in the final decision. If they were fixed wing capable the RAAF would have to give up 15- 20 of their F35a s for F35b s, and if they did who would fly them. Anyone can do helicopters even army but for jets it should be RAAF.”
I don’t know if that was true but it would not surprise me, and would hardly be surprising.
Exactly the same argument broke out in Britain between the RAF and RN, over whether there would be F35A (land) or F35B (carrier VTOL) fighters purchased there too. The RN still doesn’t really have enough F35Bs to fully stock either of their two carriers when they go to sea.
https://news.sky.com/story/royal-navy-fury-as-raf-pushes-for-new-jets-that-cannot-fly-from-warships-11568074
rhwombat,
A small comment about Viva Voce exams if I may?
I suffer from really bad stage fright. So, thankfully, in all my time at Uni I only ever had to sit for one Viva after I missed an exam due to illness. It filled me with such dread that I would fail, even though I knew the work, that my mouth went dry constantly throughout and my brain fade became a problem that I had to work really, really hard to overcome. On the other hand written exams were never a problem. I don’t know what the solution is except to say that I am damn glad there weren’t 100% Vivas in my day! Or I would be working in Myer now or something like that.
Sorry all.
Cat last point. To be fair to you it was not you all by yourself that I made my decison to leave the Bludger lounge so you don’t get blame or credit for that decision.
Goodnight
Welcome back, Billy Kaplan!
I often wondered if you’d come back one day.
Billy
I only caught up on the Billy / Guytaur comments after the fact. Are you Guytaur? If so welcome back 🙂
Post long and prosper
(Unbelievable how hard it was to find a free-to-link image of Spock!)
“Scott Morrison, Christian Porter, Alan Tudge, Stuart Robert, Michael Keenan and Marise Payne have received approval for taxpayer-funded legal expenses related to the robodebt royal commission.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/23/taxpayers-to-fund-legal-costs-of-scott-morrison-and-other-former-ministers-related-to-robodebt-royal-commission
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C@tmommasays:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 5:03 pm
Ven,
I’m only combative with commenters that come out with verifiably questionable, if not false, statements as if they are gospel. This place isn’t a Child Care Centre, it’s a place for robust debate about politics. Guytaur’s Bernie Bros-inflected suppositions and statements were proven wrong last time he was around and will always be challenged again if they need to be.
What is wrong with that I don’t know.
On the other hand, if guytaur says something I agree with I will be the first to say that I agree with him. You can’t be fairer than that.
”
C@tmomma
There is nothing wrong being combative from time to time with out being offensive.
Billy seems to take offense on some word and wanted to take a break. I don’t about know that word.
Please note that I was not criticising you.
FS
LOL
@socrates – 5:14pm – re: RN fears over being shanked by the RAF re, the F35B program.
That article is from 2018. ther fears were real, but actually misplaced.
The two QE aircraft carriers are massive assets. There is no way that the UK government would ultimately short change that capability (although it may choose to effectively run the carriers in rotation, and not as the core of two battle groups operating simultaneously for budgetary reasons. Especially now that it is drawing on even the most thick headed how much Brexit has royally fucked Britain’s economic and social future).
The F35 is an awesome asset. However in some ways it threatens to become a victim of its own capability strengths. Whilst the fly away costs are now comparable – or even better – than any fourth generation platform available for purchase – its operating costs (due to all that 5th generation kit it carries and which has to be rigorously maintained) will always be higher than other platforms. Compounding that factor is the extent to which that it turns out that Lockheed Martin were not full of shit after-all and the greatest capability of the f35 has turned out to be fusion and platform teaming: the ability to ‘quarterback’ other platforms in a contested airspace as a force multiplier. Red Flag exercise after Red Flag exercises since 2015 has demonstrated conclusively the power of even a very small number of F35s to obtain complete air superiority (ie. air supremacy) by directing the tactical manoeuvres of fourth generation planes against any adversary – even teams that include the awesome F22. For example, 8 x F35s teamed with two squadrons of F18As would take out 5 squadrons of F15s each and every time with kills rates in excess of 30:1. Even if the Red team had a few F22s to make it interesting, the blue team quarterbacked by the F35s will always win. Moreover, the force multiplier effect of F35s isn’t limited to other fast jets: other platforms – ranging from tanks, frigates, even submarines and of course drones can be quarterbacked by the F35.
Therefore, the thinking now is that a core of F35s should be used in this role and more bang for buck can be obtained by complementing the F35s with things such as loyal wingman drones and digital platformed ‘fourth generation’ fighters (of which there are actually very few examples, but thankfully for the RAAF they include the Super-hornet and Growler – of which we have 35/36 airframes).
From Britain’s perspective the RN can get more bang for buck by limiting the purchase of F35Bs down from the originally planned 133 airframes to somewhere between 70 and 80 and investing extra resources into navalised drones (like our loyal wingman program, of the USN drone refueller program or Turkey’s naval drone program) AND then adding in extra operational squadrons of F35 by cross docking agreements with the US marines. The QE carriers are massively big, so one can expect that future deployments of either the QE or PoW will have an air group comprised of something like the following:
12-16 x British F35Bs (spilt equally between the RN Fleet Air Arm and the RAF);
12 x US Marine F35Bs
Between 12 to 30 odd x loyal wingman drones
3 MQ-25 drone air refuellers
6 helicopters for various functions.
In that environment, the RAF wants 60 odd F35As. Their own experiences in Red Flag exercises with the Eurofighter has demonstrated conclusively how effective a small number of F35s are in quarterbacking a larger number of very capable 4th generation airframes such as the Eurofighter & they want to buy into that capability. It makes for Britain to split their original likely purchase Order of 133 airframes between A and B variants & the Navy should leverage a ‘concession’ in favour of the RAF in return for extra investment in navalised drones.
Oliver Sutton says:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 6:00 pm
“Scott Morrison, Christian Porter, Alan Tudge, Stuart Robert, Michael Keenan and Marise Payne have received approval for taxpayer-funded legal expenses related to the robodebt royal commission.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/23/taxpayers-to-fund-legal-costs-of-scott-morrison-and-other-former-ministers-related-to-robodebt-royal-commission
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That is hypocritical by Morrison and his cronies for a number of reasons
A_E
Thanks for information on the Canberras.
I have been following the arguments since the retirement of the Melbourne and Britain reneging on selling the Invincible. It is difficult to get a definitive answer on whether an aircraft carrier is a) an important part of our defence strategy b) a status symbol c) 30k tonnes of steel with a bullseye attached d) a mixture of the above.
I have a brother who used to work in defence materiel and who used to joke (I hope he was joking) that defence procurement since 1963 had been with the goal of mincing up Jakarta within 24 hours. A couple of even small aircraft carriers parked off Java would certainly give the Indonesians some cause for reflection
David Rowe
“ I have a brother who used to work in defence materiel and who used to joke (I hope he was joking) that defence procurement since 1963 had been with the goal of mincing up Jakarta within 24 hours. A couple of even small aircraft carriers parked off Java would certainly give the Indonesians some cause for reflection”
Aye, in the mid 60s there certainly was a concern about a potential Indonesian threat to australia. Especially because were were actually secretly fighting them in about 1963. However, as anybody who has actually travelled to Indonesia knows, the Indos are simply not capable of threatening a country like Australia, even if they wanted to. Perhaps if the ChiComms took over and transformed their economy THAT threat might have been realised back in the day, but I doubt even the remote threat isn’t even ‘on the board’ these days (however if some sort of Islamic breakaway movement succeeded in splitting up the archipelago state then Australian assets – and Australians themselves may be under threat – just not from invasion though – terrorism, industrial sabotage and hostage taking for ransom perhaps).
The high water mark of the Australian defence goal of being able to mince up Jakarta if needs be was the acquisition of the F111. A squadron of those strike fighter/bombers certainly could properly mince up Jakarta at will. They had the range and speed that – even if based at Darwin – daily – squadron sized sorties could ‘unleash hell’ until the Indos called uncle. For their time, their terrain hugging flight capabilities and their speed made them effectively invulnerable to counter attack.
One thing I have noticed about the current Royal Navy order of battle which is ‘problematic’ to say the least is a complete lack of navalised heavy strike missiles. Both the Type 23 Frigate and Type 45 destroyers only have harpoon anti-ship missiles (which are due to be replaced by naval strike missiles – but these are still comparatively l shorty range and have a light throw weight of explosive warhead). Even the Tomahawks that the Astute Class SSN carry are the Block IV land attack variants, which lack the guidance systems to successfully attack moving targets like ships. Therefore, if the RN cuts back on their embarked F35Bs (which will carry JSMs and LRSAMs) then its not as if the remaining F35Bs could ‘quarterback’ a frigate’s long range strike missiles onto a surface ship 500nm away. … That deficiency is probably a more pressing concern than the development of navalised loyal wingman drones, IMO. The RN probably should contract with the French for braces of their Naval Strike Missiles to put in the Type 45s VLS silos asap.
AE
Thanks and yes I was aware of the systems on the F35 and their significance. I was just responding to the point that they led to rivalry in UK defence over control of a valuable asset.
The Australian (of all places!) printed this article based on an AMWU report today about the need for an interim sub build in order to be ready to build SSNs “in the 1930s or later”. The AMWU is right. It is impossible to go from a cold start to building complete SSNs at full speed. Building the workforce and skills takes years, and that workforce needs something to do in the meantime or they will lose their skills and/or find other jobs.
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/defence/nuclear-build-beyond-us-without-stopgap-subs/news-story/6557947f6b3fe8ae1a1383e4d43fb5c6
If the SSN design Defence has chosen enabled an immediate start on construction, this problem is not an issue. So the best solution is still to choose the SSN we can begin building most quickly, and get on with it. But if Defence is planning a sub choice that won’t start building before the 2030s, two things need to happen:
1. Sack all Defence and Naval senior staff involved in making such a dangerously incompetent decision.
2. Build a Collins replacement SSK in the interim, probably the long range version of the Saab A26.
If item 2 can start quickly, the LOTE project should be scaled back to maintenance only, and the Collins replaced as quickly as possible.
Mass Shooting in Virginia. At Least 10 Dead
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/11/22/2137975/-Mass-Shooting-in-Virginia-At-Least-10-Dead
To the legal eagles
Eleventh Circuit Grills Trump Attorney in Document Case
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/11/22/2137947/-Eleventh-Circuit-Grills-Trump-Attorney-in-Document-Case
The panel consists of three Republican appointees, two of whom were appointed by Trump. Forbes reports that “[t]he judges repeatedly questioned Trump attorney Jim Trusty over whether there was any court precedent to back up the ex-president’s arguments against the Justice Department taking documents from Mar-A-Lago, and Judge Britt Grant noted Trump ‘hasn’t really made much of an effort’ to show he needs access to the documents the DOJ seized.” The judges also expressed the view in their questioning that Trump’s argument amounted to a claim for special treatment because he is a former president. With respect to the need for review because some non-government documents were seized, Judge William H. Pryor, a George W. Bush appointee, we can’t blame “the government if someone has intermingled classified documents with all other personal property.”
One shouldn’t read too much into judges’ questioning at an oral argument. But given the Circuit Court’s prior rebuff of Judge Cannon, the questioning suggests a favorable ruling for DOJ.
It seems to me that Dan has a very calm demeanour, not one that is fearing the election outcome.
Is all the doom ABC reporting just “fake news”?
What a disgusting, disgraceful, shameful statistic.
Albanese loses all credibility if the rate isn’t swiftly addressed.
Snappytom, Yabba and others interested
This article is written by a clergyman.
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/11/21/2137766/–Deus-Vult-uh-maybe-not-Why-It-Only-Appears-an-Entire-Religion-Has-Gone-Insane
Pocock is a hypocrite. He is trying to weaken IR laws as well as delay implementation.
Boerwar says:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:05 pm
Pocock is a hypocrite. He is trying to weaken IR laws as well as delay implementation.
中华人民共和国
Pocock needs to be managed out. He is not supporting decent wages for working families in Australia.
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Rex Douglassays:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 6:57 pm
David Pocock
@DavidPocock
·
6m
1 in 6 children in Australia are now growing up in poverty.
It’s urgent that we raise the rate of Jobseeker. It’s the right thing to do. We all benefit when we look after people in our communities who need support.
What a disgusting, disgraceful, shameful statistic.
Albanese loses all credibility if the rate isn’t swiftly addressed.
”
Why should Albanese lose credibility for a problem which was in the making for atleast last couple of decades and which got worse in the last 9 years?
And with 1 trillion debt how do propose to reduce poverty quickly as you stated? Can you please give the ‘Magic wand’ you seem to possess to reduce poverty to Albanene now so that he reduce it by using ‘magic wand’ and saying magic words?
@socrates: I fear we are too far down the rabbit hole for any sensible replacement SSK program, and even if we were, the SAAB Type A26, isn’t it. As a design, it is less advanced than the design we just cancelled. Unlike the French SAAB-Kockums haven’t actually built a new sub for over 30 years.
Look, Singapore doesn’t need or even want its last two Type SG218s until the mid 2030s (when they are due to retire their two AIP converted Gotland based subs) and given that they have – or will soon receive the first four type SG218s – there appears to be a potential production availability in Keil for ThyssenKrupp Marine to lay down 2-4 type 218SGs for us now, with the RAN taking delivery between around 2028 and 2033. That should see us through to any realistic SSN program that may be fleet operational in 20 years time.
Of course, once again, I emphasise that in lieu of that, Naval Group could deliver us 2 barracuda base design SSNs between 2035-8, which in combination with a local SSN build commencing within 5 years, could see us safely transition directly from the Collins class to an SSN class without the need of any interim SSK. Such a deal would probably need the combined heft of both AUKUS partners and France to pull off, such is the depth of our lack of relevant nuclear industrial capabilities right now. Certainly the Americans would have to be on board, as it would be widely expected that any Australian submarine carry American combat and weapons systems.
But, alas, we are stuck in the AUKUS rabbit-hole and London to a brick I bet that Fort Fumble will come up with some impossibly heroic ‘plan’ to square the circle and have us safely in AUKUS wunderwaffe by 2038. No problems. Which I reckon the current Government will actually sign onto. Alas.
AE
If the Albanese government signs onto that they are going to (rightly) get some kick back from the AMWU.
2038 is in 16 years time. Build time for an SSN is typically 8 to 10 years. That leaves a 6 to 8 year gap.
You could complete a degree in engineering in that time, or an apprenticeship and several years work. The AUKUS workforce will disappear in between.
The workforces are not all the same size either. The ASC workforce needed to do the Collins LOTE (project failure) is less than half the size of an SSK or SSN build workforce. One does not morph into the other overnight.
Vensays:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:01 pm
Snappytom, Yabba and others interested
This article is written by a clergyman.
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/11/21/2137766/–Deus-Vult-uh-maybe-not-Why-It-Only-Appears-an-Entire-Religion-Has-Gone-Insane
Ven,
Thank you for this. In my view the author of the article just about “nailed” it.
BK:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 6:18 pm
[‘David Rowe’]
He rarely fails.
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Ven:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 6:48 pm
[(Extracted from the link you posted). ‘One shouldn’t read too much into judges’ questioning at an oral argument. But given the Circuit Court’s prior rebuff of Judge Cannon, the questioning suggests a favorable ruling for DOJ.’]
I think a lot can be read into judges’ responses to oral arguments. It’s not always indicative but experienced counsel tend to know when their argument is going nowhere, but they still get their fee.
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Welcome back, Billy. If you need a good lawyer, FS would be a smart pick, rarely verbose.
@socrates (and C@t, if she has unblocked me, lol):
A couple of days ago you linked an erudite report by ALLAN BEHM, REAR ADMIRAL PETER BRIGGS (RETIRED), COMMODORE PAUL GREENFIELD RAN (RETIRED):
https://mailchi.mp/nautilus/napsnet-special-reportaustralias-future-submarinesan-explainer?e=1a4f758957#_ftn4
In turn this report cited the following article by Alan Kuperman, published by the Lowy Institute in July this year:
https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/france-can-help-albanese-fix-aukus
However, in my view Emanuel Macron does NOT sound like a fella who is still ‘in the hunt’ for Australian submarine contracts, given the stridency of his AUKUS comments at the conclusion of the G20 summit last week. He sounds decidedly peeved. Consistent with him being told in effect that Australia is locked in 100% with the AUKUS clusterfuck. Certainly the response to my feelers that I sent out when hawking is your excellent paper tends to back that up. Marles and Albanese are as committed to AUKUS subs as Dutton and Morrison. Wunderwaffe or not. A trillion dollars for subs on the never never or not.
Damn the torpedos, full steam ahead No.1!
Scott says:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:48 pm
Lol Upnorth
You found Taylormade in the Victorian election thread
LOL Taylormade
中华人民共和国
Yeah cobber. The bugger was getting away with his humor unmolested.
AE
Yes sadly I have gained the same impression. That is why I think we will now be building or buying interim SSKs of some type. The start date of any US or UK SSN build is too far away for Collins LOTE to do.
What I was trying to say before is, regardless of type chosen, we should start building SSKs ASAP instead of the LOTE project.
Upnorth says:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:57 pm
Scott says:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:48 pm
Lol Upnorth
You found Taylormade in the Victorian election thread
LOL Taylormade
中华人民共和国
Yeah cobber. The bugger was getting away with his humor unmolested.
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Yes , hope the humour keeps coming
Ven says:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:01 pm
Snappytom, Yabba and others interested
This article is written by a clergyman.
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/11/21/2137766/–Deus-Vult-uh-maybe-not-Why-It-Only-Appears-an-Entire-Religion-Has-Gone-Insane
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“ It was here the Long Con began. It took a while, but the civil authorities realized that if they could not destroy the movement then they would simply co-opt it.”
As much as such a concise summary can achieve, it’s not at all bad imo. I was particularly taken with the above sentence because what the Romans did has subsequently been taken to another level in the US by the Republicans in co-opting the Pentecostals in particular in an already significantly ‘religious’ society. They are the Pharisees and Sadducees of Roman times, religious yet political with unusual authority. Instead of fighting them, the Romans essentially empowered them. Albeit that this is an oversimplification, one can see the similarities.
“ Yes sadly I have gained the same impression. That is why I think we will now be building or buying interim SSKs of some type. The start date of any US or UK SSN build is too far away for Collins LOTE to do.”
The impression that Ive got is that ‘the brains’ are as deluded on the Collins LOTE program as they are only a realistic pathway for us to have AUKUS subs in operation in the next 20 years.
The LOTE was originally meant to see us through to 2031 (when HMAS Collins is due to finish its 5th seven year operational cycle) to 2038 (when HMAS Rankin finishes its 5th cycle). When AUKUS was announced, that plan was pushed back by one full operational cycle across the fleet, but given the evidence by the unlamented Byng at Senate estimates last year, it is feasible that the Collins fleet could be expected to undertake a full 7th operational cycle before being replaced by AUKUS subs (even though Rankin suffered a catastrophic valve failure in 3000M of water late last year, which very nearly sent her and her crew to the bottom of the Indian Ocean & that after less than 20 years operational service …).
Over “The Ditch”, Ardern intends next year to hold a plebiscite on reducing the voting age to 16. I think this is fair enough, though a course on civics & citizenship should be a condition precedent.
Mavis
Thanks. I hope I don’t need one even just for a will.
I will bear in mind if I ever do need one.
AE
Yes I have been aware of the slide in Collins LOTE timing assumptions and the Rankin incident. I have to say I am aghast at the thought that naval officers who should know better think it will be OK. We might get lucky, or we might kill people. It is like Schrodinger’s cat. We won’t know for sure till we do it. But most navies experienced in running subs don’t do it.
But none of the people who said it was OK were engineers or submariners. And they will all be safely retired by the time any submarine sinks.
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Socratessays:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:23 pm
AE
Yes I have been aware of the slide in Collins LOTE timing assumptions and the Rankin incident. I have to say I am aghast at the thought that naval officers who should know better think it will be OK. We might get lucky, or we might kill people. It is like Schrodinger’s cat. We won’t know for sure till we do it. But most navies experienced in running subs don’t do it.
But none of the people who said it was OK were engineers or submariners. And they will all be safely retired by the time any submarine sinks.
”
Or dead by the time any submarine sinks both within and outside.
Mastodon update (Aus.Social instance). Reposting here because I know we’ve got a few people who know this sort of thing. And I thought it might provide a “data point” for others in the continuing growth of Mastodon.
Malaysian King tells BN to join unity government; seeks Council of Rulers to resolve election crisis
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/international/malaysian-king-tells-bn-join-unity-government-seeks-council-rulers-resolve-election
“MALAYSIA’S king has decreed that former ruling bloc Barisan Nasional (BN) must be part of a so-called unity government, BN chief Ahmad Zahid Hamidi told Malaysiakini after an audience with the monarch on Wednesday (Nov 23).
Two other coalition leaders were told the same when they were granted the royal audience, Zahid added.
The 30 lawmakers from BN have two choices: form the government with opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim of the multi-ethnic Pakatan Harapan or ex-PM Muhyiddin Yassin who helms the pro-Malay, Islamist bloc called Perikatan Nasional.
The king also called a special meeting of his fellow hereditary sultans on Thursday to discuss who should be prime minister as an unprecedented post-election crisis entered its fourth day.”
Billy Kaplan:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:20 pm
[‘Mavis
Thanks. I hope I don’t need one even just for a will.
I will bear in mind if I ever do need one.’]
Wills were my specialty, the shortest one, which was upheld, was
“All to Mum”, written on a piece of paper, shortly before the testator ended his life. Anyway, welcome back, Billy.
“ I have to say I am aghast at the thought that naval officers who should know better think it will be OK.”
Byng is a Frigate Commander. ScoMo set up his own ‘shadow department’ (who know) comprising of four retired US Admirals, all of whom have a vested interest promoting US SSNs. There are a couple of civilian mandarins involved in this (Keating named one of them at his last La Trobe Uni talk last month, whose name escapes me). The echo chamber was completed by the ASPI brigade and the Parliamentary wolverines.
AUKUS was a marketing scam. Albo and Marles have been sucker punched.
Rex Douglassays:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 6:57 pm
Anyone who thinks it’s an issue that can be “swiftly addressed” has no credibility.
AFR Editorial
“ Sometimes a bad government, especially one headed in an even worse direction than the opposition, just needs to be thrown out of office.”
Paywalled https://www.afr.com/politics/victoria-cannot-afford-more-labor-20221122-p5c07o
I’m calling inappropriate and I look forward to them eating their words this weekend. If the AFR think in any way that a leader and party that knowingly and continually mixes with Mafia is a better choice than Victorian Labor, and are willing to champion such politicians, then they are every bit as bad as the Murdochracy. They know no shame and should be called out for this support.
Would you believe that an asteroid hit Earth in Canada on 19th November, 2022?( And nobody died)
https://earthsky.org/space/asteroid-hit-canada-mere-hours-after-discovery/
Ven
Hello. Are you still over in USA? If yes I had a question.
Looking at the US mid term results, they were not as bad as feared given the state of the US economy. Most Trump candidates suffered, and considering the number of House seats lost to redistricting (gerrymandering) the Democrat lower house vote was generally solid, except for De Santis in Florida.
However one big exception was New York, where there were several Democrat losses, almost enough to lose the house on their own. Any thoughts why so bad in NY?
“ If the AFR think in any way that a leader and party that knowingly and continually mixes with Mafia is a better choice than Victorian Labor, and are willing to champion such politicians, then they are every bit as bad as the Murdochracy. They know no shame and should be called out for this support.”
The AFR is simply furniture in the 9/Faix stable that comprises Costello world.
9/Faix simply reflects the hopes and aspirations of Turnbull Tories.
Just as the Rupeverse simply reflects the cookers that make up the ‘conservative’ wing of the LNP (and the cadres of even more extreme nutters beyond).
7West is a parochial version of both elements.
Their ABC has been hollowed out and now inhabited by quislings who have signed onto the ‘balance’ meme (which comprises ‘voices’ reflecting the Greens, the Teals, Trumble Tories and cranks, but never Labor).
There: our MSM in toto.
#MurdochRoyalCommission? Fine, but merely a good start.
(Cronus)
AFR Editorial
“ Sometimes a bad government, especially one headed in an even worse direction than the opposition, just needs to be thrown out of office.”
I don’t recall the AFR saying that before the Federal election, despite Morrison running up a post war record debt, and no economic improvements in trade, policy, productivity, export competitiveness etc.
The AFR these days is no more than a Murdoch tabloid for those who went to business school.
Cronus says:
Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 8:42 pm
AFR Editorial
“ Sometimes a bad government, especially one headed in an even worse direction than the opposition, just needs to be thrown out of office.”
Paywalled https://www.afr.com/politics/victoria-cannot-afford-more-labor-20221122-p5c07o
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Calling Australia mainstream media ‘corrupt’ is an understatement
I presume that Stutch is responsible for that AFR editorial.
Given the depth of cooker infiltration in the Victorian Liberals Stutch could as easily be damning the German SDP ands calling for them to be booted out in 1932 in favour of you know who, as he is urging regime change in Victoria in 2022.
The supreme court rules that the Scottish parliament cannot hold a second vote without the approval of Westminster.
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