Australia Institute gas industry poll (open thread)

A finding of strong support for gas export gaps and windfall profits taxes offers the only relief amid a post-budget polling trough.

The only recent poll I’m aware of is an Australia Institute survey on gas industry policy, which finds overwhelming support for export caps (52% strongly in favour, 28% somewhat so, 5% opposed and 2% strongly opposed) and a windfall profits tax (39%, 31%, 7% and 5%). However, the setting of the questions, which noted that the proposals had been made by former ACCC chair Rod Sims, might be thought encouraging to favourable responses. The poll was conducted November 1 to 4 from a sample of 1001, using an online panel licensed from Dynata. Such a poll wouldn’t normally be enough for me to hang a post on, but a new open thread is needed and I’ve been too consumed by the Victorian election to look into anything else. So there you have it.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Carswell told him it wasn’t a legitimate matter of public interest. If Coorey wrote about it, he’d cut off the supply of privileged information to the AFR and favour a competitor, instead. Today, Carswell says he doesn’t recollect the conversation. This attempt at suppression rankled Coorey and his editors so much that they decided to publish a story they might not have otherwise.

    The paper ran a small piece on page 2 the next day noting that Morrison was on leave overseas, without mention of Hawaii.

    Coorey is like Frytheplanet.. no bottle, terrified of being taken off the tit .

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/only-one-man-could-save-scott-morrison-from-himself-and-he-chose-not-to-20221011-p5bovf.html

  2. Sceptic

    “ Coorey is like Frytheplanet.. no bottle, terrified of being taken off the tit .”

    And yet despite being treated like this, Coorey has continued to be a Liberal shill. His descent into the Airbus Albo meme, despite admitting the importance of this travel, only lowers my opinion of his writing.

  3. It’s becoming quite obvious that gas and, more broadly, energy policies must have a greater and more proactive intervention of governments (Federal and also State/Territory), in order to protect our citizens from circumstances that may well be excused by the usual suspects on various grounds (e.g. Covid, war in Ukraine, etc.), but that suspiciously always end up favouring them with massive profit windfalls.

  4. “Cronus says:
    Monday, November 14, 2022 at 6:44 am
    Sceptic

    “ Coorey is like Frytheplanet.. no bottle, terrified of being taken off the tit .”

    And yet despite being treated like this, Coorey has continued to be a Liberal shill. His descent into the Airbus Albo meme, despite admitting the importance of this travel, only lowers my opinion of his writing.”…

    Coorey lost my respect a long time ago. The man is no more, no less than yet another member of the Liberal party conga line of suckholes…. Pathetic!

  5. Until the lib/nats politically split from their corrupt propaganda media units, the lib/nats combined primary vote at federal/state/territory level may not get to over 40% for a while and remain in opposition , which means Labor governments Australia wide for at least minimum of 3/4 terms

  6. The Liberals WERE planning to do it again! They had planned to switch from Morrison to Frydenburg before the May election!

    Josh Frydenberg had fantasised about becoming prime minister for 30 years but when the opportunity finally arrived he didn’t just shrink from it. When his colleagues asked him to save the Coalition government by challenging Scott Morrison for the prime ministership, Frydenberg went straight to Morrison to tell him about it.

    “There’s unrest in the party room,” he warned the leader in November last year, as he later related to colleagues. He wanted Morrison to know that he was a loyal deputy: “I’ll work with you to try to turn it around.”

    It was the Liberals’ last chance to ask the electorate to be forgiven for Morrison’s sins: by removing him and anointing a new leader in time for the federal election.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/only-one-man-could-save-scott-morrison-from-himself-and-he-chose-not-to-20221011-p5bovf.html

  7. this seems a pease from harcher to triy and revive frydenbergs corear i remember hartcher and the mainstream media talking about how only turnbull could save the liberal party now frydenberg lost his seat dont think hill be coming back i dont think hill ever be pm he fcould of corse atempt to save the victorian liberals to take over when guy losis

  8. Frydenberg is no costellow the other protender to the primeministership dont get the media saying that frydenberg would save the liberals he was morrisons deputy and gave us our worst debt speers showed how out of tuch themsm are with the public when he said after election that frydenberg sghould be leader because its been his ambition sicnce 16 years old thats probaly whiy frydenberg could not relate to the public no one talking about how good albanese has beenin the job after he was under estermated harcher must be upsethe is no longer geting the drip feed from pmo maybi hunt or frydenberg can save vick libs

  9. Aaron newton @ #7 Monday, November 14th, 2022 – 7:16 am

    this seems a pease from harcher to triy and revive frydenbergs corear i remember hartcher and the mainstream media talking about how only turnbull could save the liberal party now frydenberg lost his seat dont think hill be coming back i dont think hill ever be pm he fcould of corse atempt to save the victorian liberals to take over when guy losis

    No, Aaaron newton. If you actually read it before jumping to conclusions, it actually lays out what a doormat with no backbone Josh Frydenburg was.

  10. i think gas reservations would be the best policy rather then short term fixses like the profits tax this could be turned in to a n otther mining tax the gas industry cant complain about reserves because they haveegzisted for years harcher claims frydenberg could save teel seats while he is close to michael crodger and right winger Succar and croger ofcorse was state president during mathew guys last run in 2018 where the liberals had a masive defeat frydenberg chalinged georgio with the backing of dutton and santorow and was a former advisor to howard and downer if frydenberg is a modderit in todays terms who is a conservative he is very similar to morrison with out the personality and showmanship

  11. i think the liberals lobeying ferm c t group crosby textor who as well as morrison over saw the disasteris johnson and trus campaigns have close links to the mining and gas industry ian mcfarlain former nationals federal director went back to minerals cowncil

  12. Who could forget this:

    Morrison starred in a Liberal party advertisement, posted to social media, that spruiked his government’s fire response, portraying it as some sort of success.

    The ad linked to a Liberal party bushfires webpage featuring a prominent button marked “donate” – not to bushfire victims but to the Liberal Party. When this caused instant outcry, the button was removed.

    Morrison would later describe himself as “a bit of a bulldozer”. The country would have welcomed a bulldozer prime minister to lead a national mobilisation against the fires and against the aggravating factor of climate change. All it got was prime ministerial bull.

    To this day, some Liberals continue to defend Morrison’s conduct. A Morrison cabinet minister and now backbencher, Stuart Robert, says: “Dutton and I were available as the decision makers, as the cabinet ministers responsible. The PM was able to go on leave as the decision-making ministers were on deck and we knew what to do.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/only-one-man-could-save-scott-morrison-from-himself-and-he-chose-not-to-20221011-p5bovf.html

    So Dutton was in the loop. But Dutton didn’t even have the backbone to stop Morrison going on holiday to Hawaii.

  13. Well back in november speers and others reported that brag and zimermann wanted frydenberg to chalinge but he refused this would have been the liberals 4th pm

  14. Aaron newtonsays:
    Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:23 am

    i think gas reservations would be the best policy rather then short term fixses like the profits tax …

    Why does it have to be one or the other?

    Surely there both short and longer term issues that need to be dealt with.

  15. so carzqwell was a spin doctor well it makes sence he would faver news corp he worked as chief of staff to the dailey telagraph and news corp for years before joining morrison

  16. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    In the first of a three-part series Peter Hartcher and James Massola examine the moment from which former prime minister Scott Morrison could never recover – and why Josh Frydenberg didn’t save their party.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/only-one-man-could-save-scott-morrison-from-himself-and-he-chose-not-to-20221011-p5bovf.html
    A deal pulled together by then-treasurer Scott Morrison in 2018 to placate WA over its GST revenue was supposed to cost $2.3 billion, but it is on track to surpass $24 billion – just as government debt hits $900 billion, explains Shane Wright.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/cost-of-morrison-s-wa-gst-deal-blows-out-by-20-billion-as-debt-hits-record-high-20221111-p5bxh7.html
    The Coalition’s practice of sacking a bunch of government department heads whenever it gets back to office is clearly calculated to discourage bureaucrats from giving frank advice. Fortunately for us, the Albanese government is not as arrogant, says Ross Gittins who is pleased that Treasury’s advice now back in favour. Gittins gets a lot off his chest here.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/treasury-s-advice-now-back-in-favour-with-the-government-20221113-p5bxr5.html
    Phil Coorey reports that Anthony Albanese and Joe Biden have swapped notes on the eve of a historic meeting between the US President and China’s Xi Jinping which is expected to be dominated by Western concerns about North Korea, Beijing’s designs on Taiwan, its disregard for international law, and its support for Russia in Ukraine.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/albanese-and-biden-unite-over-china-20221113-p5bxsy
    More trade, not less, the key to Australia’s prosperity, says Don Farrell in this AFR op-ed.
    https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/more-trade-not-less-the-key-to-australia-s-prosperity-20221109-p5bwy3
    NDIS Minister Bill Shorten rejected his department’s suggestion that the Productivity Commission run the major new review of the scheme, believing it shouldn’t be “marking its own homework” after conducting two earlier inquiries.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7977441/marking-their-own-homework-why-shorten-rejected-advice-on-ndis-review/?cs=14329
    The world’s biggest carbon pollution reduction project at Chevron’s Gorgon gas plant is working at just one-third capacity after six years, delivering a setback to the credibility of carbon capture and storage as a means to achieve net-zero emissions, explains Peter Milne.
    https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/gas-giant-s-3-2b-effort-to-bury-carbon-pollution-is-failing-20221113-p5bxtw.html
    “‘A political force of nature’: despite scandals and a polarising style, can ‘Dan’ do it again in Victoria?”, wonders Paul Strangio.
    https://theconversation.com/a-political-force-of-nature-despite-scandals-and-a-polarising-style-can-dan-do-it-again-in-victoria-187344
    It appears COVID-19 crisis management policies have impacted voting behaviour — all the more relevant given incumbents campaign primarily to retain their seats, writes Professor Francesco Paolucci, Pablo Arija Prieto, Marcello Antonini and Andrew Greenland.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/covid-19-crisis-management-fodder-for-political-gamers,16958
    Billionaire media scions Lachlan Murdoch and James Packer have a close friendship which has endured the ups and downs of mega-deals including Australia’s ‘Super League’ war, the collapse of One.Tel, the rise of Realestate.com.au and failure of Channel Ten – some of the best and worst moments of Lachlan’s career. This edited extract from Paddy Manning’s new biography of Lachlan Murdoch sheds new light on their tumultuous business history.
    https://michaelwest.com.au/how-james-packer-and-lachlan-murdoch-kept-their-eyes-on-the-prize/
    The Guardian reveals that The Queensland police minister, Mark Ryan, was sent an audio recording of officers joking about beating and burying black people last month, but declined to meet with the whistleblower who sent it. The whistleblower, watch house officer Steven Marshall, had approached Ryan and sought a private meeting, citing “significant” prior alleged reprisals for making complaints via official police channels. Seen together with the inquiry in the NT, this is not a good look for police forces.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/14/queensland-police-minister-was-sent-recordings-of-racist-sexist-police-comments-whistleblower-says
    As Principal Solicitor at the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, my team and I meet people seeking asylum every day. We see their suffering as they struggle to access basic rights in an intimidating and often hostile system, and we see the effect on them of vilification and exclusion in public discourse, writes Hannah Dickinson who says the Nine Network perpetuates tired, politicised, militaristic discourse on refugees.
    https://johnmenadue.com/what-the-media-get-wrong-about-reporting-on-refugee-processing/
    The big four banks raked in $28.5 billion in profits this year, and experts predict rate rises will boost their bottom lines further, writes Clancy Yeates.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/banks-yet-to-feel-economic-pain-as-higher-rates-lift-profits-20221111-p5bxgv.html
    How many staff should parliamentarians have? It depends whether they hold the balance of power. Marian Sawer writes that figures tabled at Senate Estimates by the Finance Department confirm the arbitrary nature of the decision of the Albanese Government to cut the staff entitlement of cross-benchers in the federal parliament.
    https://johnmenadue.com/behind-closed-doors-deciding-which-parliamentarians-get-what/
    With Twitter, Trump and Xi in the news, Sean Kelly wonders if democracy is safe.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/twitter-trump-xi-is-democracy-safe-yet-20221111-p5bxmg.html
    The spectacular collapse of a $30 billion crypto exchange should come as no surprise, explains John Hawkins.
    https://theconversation.com/the-spectacular-collapse-of-a-30-billion-crypto-exchange-should-come-as-no-surprise-194442
    Margot Saville argues that cruise ships shouldn’t be able to flush sick passengers into the community.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/cruise-ships-shouldn-t-be-able-to-flush-sick-passengers-into-the-community-20221112-p5bxpy.html
    The SMH editorial describes the defeat in Kherson as a personal humiliation for Putin.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/defeat-in-kherson-is-a-personal-humiliation-for-putin-20221113-p5bxut.html
    Democrats’ triumph may be miraculous but the US is still split down the middle, writes Michael Cohen.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/13/democrats-victory-miraculous-but-us-still-split-down-middle

    Cartoon Corner

    David Rowe

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  17. Thanks so much BK

    “ The Coalition’s practice of sacking a bunch of government department heads whenever it gets back to office is clearly calculated to discourage bureaucrats from giving frank advice. Fortunately for us, the Albanese government is not as arrogant, says Ross Gittins who is pleased that Treasury’s advice now back in favour. Gittins gets a lot off his chest here.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/treasury-s-advice-now-back-in-favour-with-the-government-20221113-p5bxr5.html”

    Thankfully, Chalmers is doing a good deal to return intellectual rigour and integrity to Treasury and as a result, credibility to governing.

  18. BK @ #18 Monday, November 14th, 2022 – 7:35 am

    The world’s biggest carbon pollution reduction project at Chevron’s Gorgon gas plant is working at just one-third capacity after six years, delivering a setback to the credibility of carbon capture and storage as a means to achieve net-zero emissions, explains Peter Milne.
    https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/gas-giant-s-3-2b-effort-to-bury-carbon-pollution-is-failing-20221113-p5bxtw.html

    I’m just waiting for someone to suggest that Australia can become a “Carbon Capture and Storage Superpower”. To be honest, I’m a little surprised it hasn’t been suggested already. Because Australians are sure to fall for it.

  19. Alpo

    “It’s becoming quite obvious that gas and, more broadly, energy policies must have a greater and more proactive intervention of governments (Federal and also State/Territory), in order to protect our citizens from circumstances that may well be excused by the usual suspects on various grounds (e.g. Covid, war in Ukraine, etc.), but that suspiciously always end up favouring them with massive profit windfalls.”

    This is exactly right. Even economists (e.g. Fed Treasury, ACCC) are saying there is no market response to the current gas price spike, so intervention is needed – and you may have observed that economists tend to favour a market response to most things?

    Reservation policies and strategic reserves are long term responses. The country needs price relief now.

  20. However, we shouldn’t also lose sight of the fact that there are ambitious fellow travellers of a like mind in the Public Service, such as Kathryn Campbell according to Rick Morton in The Saturday Paper, who would do anything to advance their careers and the Coalition agenda. Dehumanising the ‘Public’ that the Public Servants are supposed to serve, is the most obvious characteristic of these types.

  21. Close to 35,000 homes and businesses remain without power and some communities in South Australia’s north have lost access to emergency phone calls as the clean-up from the weekend’s storms continues.

  22. UK Cartoons:




    “In this challenge, Matt you have to read as many letters of complaint from your constituents as you can while being lowered into a tank of barracudas.“ #MattHancock #ImACelebrity

  23. Player One: Carbon Capture Storage Superpower
    The LNP continually suggest this absurd, unworkable and unviable proposition.
    They could propose and build them alongside each of their Modular Nuclear Reactors.
    However, when Chris Bowen asked the Opposition benchers in Parliament, nobody responded by affirming their commitment to a MNR being constructed in their individual electorates.

  24. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/14/it-was-an-avoidable-mistake-for-anthony-albanese-not-to-attend-cop27

    It lasted only three hours, but Joe Biden’s visit to Egypt on Friday afternoon underlined that it was a mistake for Anthony Albanese not to attend the annual UN climate conference known as Cop27.

    Not a disastrous mistake, but an avoidable one, and a lost opportunity. The prime minister has turned down a chance to argue in front of more than 110 other leaders that his still-new government is serious about pushing for greater action – that, in the words of the climate change minister, Chris Bowen, “we’re back” after years as a global laggard. Momentum matters on climate, and Albanese won’t get another chance to make an urgent first impression.

    Yes indeed an opportunity lost. But was it a mistake? A simple lapse of good judgment? I don’t think so. When you look at what was on the agenda at COP27 (explained in the article), I think our underwhelming presence – when world leaders had been specifically asked to attend to highlight the catastrophic lack of action to date and the need to accelerate efforts – was deliberate and intentional.

    And I expect the rest of the world will have gotten the message.

  25. https://www.pollbludger.net/2022/11/14/australia-institute-gas-industry-poll-open-thread/#comment-4009570

    It isn’t an argument, or shouldn’t be, about big or small, but good governance.
    Shrinking or outsourcing, policy, competency and services, and to some extend I get services public or privatised, if not monopolies or monopolistic, was always going to be problematic if you cared about outcomes for the have nots, rather than the haves.
    Let’s see the fICAC/ CIC, campaign finance reform, freedom of information, mandatory and binding referendums, war powers reform …
    Probably a Versailles on Lake Bloody Griffin that focused on DP^C/ COAG, justice, defence, dollars, trade, could work? Change the GST, income tax, payroll tax, stamp duty and let the state/ local govs do more. The states at least seem to learn from each other.
    For sure the balance between social and liberal democracy dowunder shifted towards extreme disaster capitalism, fascism, modern equivalent of Social Darwinism most recently on display during weather events, pandemic, etc.
    Let’s see it rebalanced, given 2022, 2007, 1983, 1972 wins by more progressive side of pollyTICs …
    Then again, even Tonicchio in 2013 had axe the tax, stop the boats, no cuts to …

  26. “ The Johannes Leak’s cartoons: The price we have to pay for living in a democracy….

    …. So be it…..”

    The worst of it is he’s pretty hopeless at what he does, rarely a trace of wit, irony, originality. Today he’s just making stuff up.

  27. Macca RB @ #29 Monday, November 14th, 2022 – 8:22 am

    Player One: Carbon Capture Storage Superpower
    The LNP continually suggest this absurd, unworkable and unviable proposition.

    I haven’t heard the word “Superpower” used in this particular context, but then you hear the word used so often in Australia that perhaps I just failed to notice it.

  28. There seems a presumption by some that Morrison was/is the problem for the Liberal Party

    I would put that Morrison progressing as he did was the result of the multitude of problems which have beset the Liberal Party over the last 40 years

    In confirmation I put the comment of Malcolm Fraser, that the Liberal Party is no longer a liberal party

    It is a pity Fraser is no longer alive to put this statement once again before us

    It is noted that relations of former Liberal Party identities are now in the parliament described as “Teals” and occupying former “blue ribbon” Liberal Party seats

    Which begs the question of where the “small l” Liberals such as Chaney, McPhee, Georgiou et al are today – and who replaced them as Liberal Party MP’s in those seats?

    The writing has been on the wall across State and Territory elections, Labor holding a clean suite during the Howard years of “weapons of mass destruction”, “kid’s overboard”, so fear campaigns basically, aligned with ever reducing tax rates, the result of going to every election offering more tax cuts

    Then interest rates, where low interest rates are a mechanism for giving impetus to a struggling economy

    Plus there is media and media bias

    To me the core is the 2 ideological statements attributed to the Liberal Party of today, that austerity delivers confidence and that confidence will trickle down AND that the most effective form of regulation is self regulation.

    So who do these ideologies benefit?

    Those living in the suburbs OR Corporate Australia (noting also the beneficiaries of tax cuts)?

    Then you get to the infiltration of fundamental religious groups, their assention confirmed by Morrison as pm, a factor of the Bible Group dominant faction

    Just for starters

    Malcolm Fraser was absolutely correct

    The trouble is he was no longer around to carry the headline

    And media do not pick up the cugalls on his behalf

    Instead we see media giving bias advantage to the dysfunctional Liberal Party in the course of an election campaign in Victoria

    Refer the Cormack Court proceedings which may be resolved by Court Orders but not in fact

  29. The Hun this morning has a headline “A new poll reveals that Liberal leader Matthew Guy’s focus on this key election issue may offer him his best hope of winning.”

    Front page of dead tree edition:

    Seems to suggest health is a big issue but Labor to win.

    EDIT – I’m slow again, William has a post on this poll.

  30. LOL

    Former prime ministers Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Theresa May and David Cameron attend the Remembrance Sunday ceremony at the Cenotaph on Whitehall

  31. And just to add, you could look to the GOP in the USA, which survives now behind Trump.

    But there is a very fundamental difference to Australia.

    The GOP ALSO have guns, and the Gun Lobby.

    The Liberal Party in Australia does not have a very influential pro-gun lobby in its corner.

    Guns are not an issue in Australia.

    They are a major issue in the USA.

    And in regards Victoria and polling, in the lead up to the last State election the headlines were a “nail biter election result”.

    The public got it right.

    Media and their polls did not.

  32. “Steve777 says:
    Monday, November 14, 2022 at 8:33 am
    “ The Johannes Leak’s cartoons: The price we have to pay for living in a democracy….

    …. So be it…..”

    The worst of it is he’s pretty hopeless at what he does, rarely a trace of wit, irony, originality. Today he’s just making stuff up.”

    I am happy to separate his technical, drawing abilities: good.
    From his attempt at political satire: very predictable and unimaginative, with a rather copious content of propagandistic lies, as you correctly suggest.

  33. MaccaRB , MN reactors don’t emit carbon .
    that’s why the loonies have jumped ship on carbon capture and storage to MNR’s , because CPAS is
    totally unviable in all respects.

  34. “Jaeger says:
    Monday, November 14, 2022 at 9:10 am
    LOL

    Former prime ministers Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Theresa May and David Cameron attend the”… funeral of the Conservative party?


  35. Aaron newtonsays:
    Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:19 am
    Frydenberg is no costellow the other protender to the primeministership dont get the media saying that frydenberg would save the liberals he was morrisons deputy and gave us our worst debt speers showed how out of tuch themsm are with the public when he said after election that frydenberg sghould be leader because its been his ambition sicnce 16 years old thats probaly whiy frydenberg could not relate to the public no one talking about how good albanese has beenin the job after he was under estermated harcher must be upsethe is no longer geting the drip feed from pmo maybi hunt or frydenberg can save vick libs

    Aaron Newton
    Frydenburg is as hard right as Michael Kroger. May not be RRWNJ like Credlin but he is hard right alright. Trying to portray him as moderate is laughable.
    Costello, Kroger and Kennett changed Victorian Liberal party forever. It might have benefited them for about 20 years but if you play with sludge you will be covered with it at some point.

  36. “Boerwar says:
    Monday, November 14, 2022 at 9:02 am
    The single biggest concern coming out of the mid-Terms is that the Dems are losing large slabs of the Latino vote.”

    WRONG!
    Read:

    “Latino voters remained solidly Democratic in their voting preferences in 2022, with 64% of Latinos reporting that they voted for a Democratic House candidate, compared to 33% who reported they voted for Republican candidates. ”

    You may be confused with the good result for the GOP in Florida, where indeed there is a large population of Latinos. But Latinos are spread all over the country these days. What happens with the Florida Latinos is that they are to a great extent Cubans who escaped the communist regime of that island, and therefore they are anti-Communist, pro-Republican voters. More recent immigrants from Latin America lean to the progressive side, after escaping poverty or authoritarian regimes that were/are politically Neoliberal-Conservative (right-wing).

  37. Keltasays:
    Monday, November 14, 2022 at 9:17 am

    P.S. i forgot to mention MNR’S only emit that lovely stuff called Radiation

    Only if there’s a major problem with it.

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