Sticky wicket (open thread)

Schemes hatched by WA Liberals seeking a quick path out of the wilderness; a new Tasmanian state poll; nothing doing on the federal poll front.

I was hoping Newspoll might be back in the game three weeks after election day, but it seems normal service is yet to resume. Presumably Essential Research will have numbers of some sort tomorrow, but it remains to be seen if they will encompass voting intention. I hope to have more to offer shortly on whether other pollsters are still in the game in the immediate term, or whether they have pulled stumps for the time being. That just leaves me with the following miscellany to relate by way of a new open thread post:

Joe Spagnolo of the Sunday Times reported yesterday on a plan within the Western Australian Liberals to have former test cricketer and national team coach Justin Langer lead the party into the next state election in 2025. The suggestion is that the current leader, David Honey, might be persuaded to relinquish his seat of Cottesloe, one of only two lower house seats the party retained at the 2021 election. It is an any case “widely accepted that Dr Honey won’t lead the WA Liberals to the next election”, with Vasse MP Libby Mettams “his likely replacement” – indeed his only possible replacement out of the existing ranks of the Liberals’ lower house contingent.

Katina Curtis and Shane Wright of the Sydney Morning Herald have taken the trouble to compile the results of the 75,368 telephone votes cast by those in COVID-19 isolation, finding that Labor, Greens or independents candidates out-performed on them on two-candidate preferred relative to the overall results in all but eight lower house seats. Kevin Bonham is quoted in the article noting that infections are more prevalent of left-leaning demographics, namely the young and those employed in exposed occupations, though I also tend to think there may be a greater tendency for those on the right of politics to keep their illnesses to themselves.

• One bit of poll news at least: the latest quarterly Tasmanian state poll from EMRS has been published, the first since Jeremy Rockliff succeeded Peter Gutwein as Premier. It finds the Liberals down two points since March to 39%, Labor down one to 30%, the Greens up one to 13% and others up two to 18%. Rockliff leads Labor’s Rebecca White 47-34 as preferred premier, compared with Gutwein’s lead of 52-33 in March. The poll was conducted May 27 to June 2 through telephone interviews from a sample of 1000.

Lydia Lynch of The Australian reports that Julie-Ann Campbell, Queensland Labor’s outgoing state secretary and now associate partner with consultancy firm EY, is “expected to run for federal politics” – specifically for the seat of Moreton, which Graham Perrett has held for Labor since 2007.

There’s a fair bit going on at the site at the moment, so here’s a quick run-through the subjects of recent posts with on-topic discussion threads, as opposed to the open thread on this post:

• The future direction of the Liberal Party, with debate raging as to whether it should focus on recovering blue-ribbon seats from the teal independents or cutting them loose and pursuing a new course through suburban and regional seats traditionally held by Labor;

• The three state by-elections looming in the Queensland seat of Callide, the South Australian seat of Bragg and the Western Australian seat of North West Central;

• The ongoing count from the federal election, which remains of interest in relation to several Senate contests, with the pressing of the button looking reasonably imminent in South Australia and the two territories.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. I think it would be interesting to do a study to see what the ratio of Self Funded Retirees and Age Pensioners is in each seat that the Liberals still hold. I bet there would be a strong correlation. By Liberals I mean those who sit in the Liberal Party Room in Canberra.

  2. Is this the same John Anderson who used to be DPM?

    Queen’s Birthday 2022 Honours List
    The Order of Australia, Meritorious and Military awards

    Companions (AC) in the General Division
    John Duncan ANDERSON
    NSW

    For eminent service to rural and regional development, to leadership in international agricultural research and food security, to social commentary, and through contributions to not-for-profit organisations.

    And if they’re giving ACs out for ‘social commentary’, then I deserve one too! 😀

  3. You can tell that the list of gongs was made up before the Coalition lost power:

    Lawrence James ANTHONY (AO)
    QLD

    For distinguished service to the people and Parliament of Australia, to political institutions, to business, and youth leadership organisations.

  4. Good to see this:

    Mary-Louise MCLAWS (AO)
    NSW

    For distinguished service to medical research, particularly to epidemiology and infection prevention, to tertiary education, and to health administration.

    Not so sure about this one:

    Officers (AO) in the Military Division

    David Peter COGHLAN
    For distinguished service in the field of Defence capability acquisition and sustainment as Head of Land Systems Division and Head Armoured Vehicle Division.

  5. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    The problems that contributed to the defeat of the Morrison government will soon be Anthony Albanese’s to solve – and the list of crises is getting longer, writes Sean Kelly, who hopes that, like Howard, Albanese will not preside over a dive in ministerial standards.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/as-honeymoon-ends-albanese-will-have-to-identify-and-fix-crises-20220612-p5at3d.html
    Education levels, particularly among women, and not income, are a key reason why voters have shifted away from the federal Liberal party towards independents and Labor, opines Ross Gittins.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/education-is-why-federal-voting-patterns-are-changing-20220612-p5at2f.html
    Australia’s national energy market operator has intervened to cap electricity wholesale prices in Queensland for what is thought to be the first time ever after a sustained period of extreme prices in the east coast’s building energy crisis, reports Angela Macdonald-Smith.
    https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/energy-market-operator-caps-qld-power-price-as-crisis-builds-20220612-p5at5o
    The Australian’s Joe Kelly writes that Beijing has ended its diplomatic deep-freeze of Australia after a breakthrough meeting in Singapore between Richard Marles and his Chinese counterpart, Wei Fenghe, with “full and frank” discussions focusing on rising tensions in the Pacific and South China Sea.
    https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/richard-marles-and-wei-fenghe-take-first-step-tobeijing-thaw/news-story/9efe2b60e0b87eda82cb9e7d3e4d19ce
    Richard Marles’ meeting with the Chinese Defence Minister, General Wei Fenghe is a welcome sign the temperature of the Canberra/Beijing relationship may go down and normal interstate professional management of differences and common interest resume. But Greg Sheridan says that it is abundantly and emphatically not a sign that our problems with China are over.
    https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/resolute-dialogue-a-strong-start-to-lowering-heat-in-canberrabeijing-relationship/news-story/a43a47bfb323160bdddc70d27553260e
    Our new Defence Minister Richard Marles may believe diplomacy will make China play nicer, but Neville Chamberlain made that mistake with Hitler, writes Andrew Bolt who reckons Marles, in promising ‘respect’ for China, signals weakness.
    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/andrew-bolt/richard-marles-promising-respect-for-china-signals-weakness/news-story/6410d371ee605e850b9741ad0f581fd1?amp
    Dominic Perrottet’s long-held goal to radically overhaul stamp duty and introduce a broad-based land tax will be one of the major reforms in the government’s final pre-election budget. The SMH can confirm Perrottet will embark on the significant reform, which will mean some home buyers will be able to opt in to an annual land tax rather than an upfront stamp duty payment.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/nsw-to-phase-out-stamp-duty-introduce-property-tax-20220612-p5at3p.html
    Josh Butler tells us that providers and peak bodies have welcomed a planned crackdown on fraud and other criminal activity inside the national disability insurance scheme, warning organised gangs and dodgy services have for too long undermined the system and disadvantaging vulnerable people.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jun/13/ndis-crackdown-welcomed-by-advocates-as-organised-gangs-infiltrate-scheme
    Jordan Baker explains how a judge has found former police commissioner Mick Fuller’s involvement in the Teachers’s Pet podcast raises crucial questions about the application of justice.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/the-top-cop-the-journalist-and-the-lunch-that-nearly-halted-a-murder-trial-20220608-p5as6d.html
    Professor of surgery, Mark Ashton, says that, worse than the Wild West, cosmetic cowboys must be reined in.
    https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/worse-than-wild-west-cosmetic-cowboys-must-be-reined-in-20220511-p5akil.html
    The Age has long supported Australia becoming a republic. It makes no sense that a modern democratic nation that governs itself remains beholden to a non-elected ruler who lives on the other side of the globe. It’s editorial warns that the latest push can afford no mistakes.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/push-towards-republic-can-afford-no-mistakes-20220611-p5at0b.html
    Dr Tim Woodruff has written an open letter to the new Minister for Health.
    https://johnmenadue.com/letter-to-new-health-minister-mark-butler/
    Colin Kruger says that no sector will be watching the consumer crunch more closely than the buy now, pay later operators. The BNPL outfits have little room to manoeuvre as they try to convince the market that they have a future as a viable stand-alone business and won’t be killed off by a feature on your Apple or Commonwealth Bank app.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/buy-now-pay-later-on-the-brink-the-entire-market-is-collapsing-20220602-p5aqkf.html
    Outgoing Victorian Liberal MP Tim Smith has backed the federal Coalition’s nuclear energy push, despite the state Coalition distancing itself from the debate, writes Annika Smethurst.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/smith-backs-dutton-s-nuclear-push-as-colleagues-dodge-debate-20220612-p5at31.html
    Zoe Samios reports that media executives have called on the Albanese government to urgently reform defamation laws, warning expensive legal battles are crippling the industry and investment in public interest journalism.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/unfavourable-legislation-media-executives-call-for-defamation-law-reform-20220612-p5at2o.html
    And the SMH editorial says that, in the interests of integrity and accountability, new federal Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus, and his state and territory counterparts, must act swiftly to rebalance the law to make it safer to expose the truth and carry out public-interest journalism, and so uphold the public’s right to know.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/legal-threat-to-journalists-puts-public-interest-at-risk-20220612-p5at5a.html
    Supposing the Morrison Government wanted to turn successive failures to destroy the ABC’s credibility into a success story, it could not do better than make significant Murdoch appointments to the ABC board, writes Paul Begley.
    https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/abcs-murdochracy-creep-no-accident,16454
    Nick McKenzie tells us that border security officials failed to thoroughly search the mobile phone of one of Australia’s most notorious paedophiles at Melbourne Airport in 2015 despite being warned the 64-year-old was a suspected child sex offender travelling overseas with a minor.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/border-force-missed-evidence-of-sexual-abuse-then-it-continued-for-years-victim-20220609-p5asjl.html
    Boris Johnson’s spineless cabinet of mediocrities are too feeble to wield the dagger, writes Andrew Rawnsley who says that, by failing to finish off a broken leader, they are prolonging their party’s agonies with grim consequences for the country.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2022/jun/12/boris-johnson-spineless-cabinet-too-feeble-to-wield-dagger
    In a potential breakthrough toward the first significant new US gun law in decades, a bipartisan group of senators announced an agreement on a framework for a firearms safety bill with enough Republican support to advance in the narrowly divided Senate. It hardly scratches the surface of the problem, though.
    https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/gun-reform-deal-reached-by-us-senators-with-key-republican-backing-20220613-p5at63.html

    Cartoon Corner

    A David Rowe classic

    Jim Pavlidis

    Megan Herbert

    A Glen Le Lievre gif
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1535873856489271296
    Mark Knight

    Spooner

    From the US







  6. When you are appointed as a judge to the general disclaim of everyone

    “Other notable inclusions were Tim Carmody”

    2022 Queen’s Birthday Honours for “significant service to the law, and to the judiciary”

  7. Thanks BK

    C@tmomma says: Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 9:05 pm Dr Fumbles, “Scott Morrison is truly delusional. He must be constantly bugging Peter Dutton with his crazy ideas. He’s worse than the manic Kevin Rudd!” There’s no point just changing the brand if nothing else changes. Voters see through that in a heartbeat and we’ve already seen and heard from the Coalition that they don’t intend changing anything, because they can’t.

    I also find it odd that Sussan Ley needs to undertake a tour to find out why women are unhappy with the Coalition. She’s a woman and if she doesn’t understand by now after all she has seen then she never will. She too is just hopelessly out of touch.

  8. Three weeks after the election and notwithstanding the energy crisis and inflation and interest rates, feeling so much better about Australia. Now if only the media would simply ignore the opposition like they have for the past nine years, things will be even better. They don’t deserve our consideration.

  9. ”… and the list of crises is getting longer, writes Sean Kelly, who hopes that, like Howard, Albanese will not preside over a dive in ministerial standards.”

    We can’t have a “dive” in Ministerial standards. The Morrison Government left them in the gutter. The only way is up and early signals are promising.

  10. (posted this to wrong thread, reposting it here)

    Got a vote compass follow up survey, they wanted me to describe what sort of racist, sexist, anti-religious person i am (for the record im only the latter, but dont go out of my way to advertise it).

    Survey asks how i feel about various races, religions, sexes on a sliding scale from -5 to +5

    I wasnt going to complete the survey, but instead i went to the next page and sabotaged all my results because i was offended by the question…

    Honestly, how can any person answer such questions in that detail, like one race is -2 compared to -3 for others ?

    Interested to hear what others think about questions like this as far as doing proper surveys go.

    https://imgur.com/a/oM6dE2B

  11. I did a survey for The Healthy Brain Initiative on the weekend and they had a question whereby you were asked to describe your living conditions. I live with my adult son who is not dependent on me. Do you think they had that option? It was either, ‘Living with Dependent Children’ or ‘Living Alone’. Weird. There’s a shedload of people whose adult children still live with them because they can’t afford, and neither can you afford, for them to do otherwise.

    I think the whole survey industry live in a bubble and they think based upon their own circumstances. So, asking you to grade your attitude to race, religion etc is a reflection of how their own mind works due to being in that bubble all the time.

  12. BK, im just dumbfounded, i wouldn’t know where to start;

    How to rank say white people vs atheists (to pick on the myself)

    I was going to put “People in General” at -5 after reading the question.

  13. From the other thread – the link below has a 5 minute audio segment from 2GB where the NSW Liberal bloodletting, spurred on by the Ben Fordham and Murdoch boosters, gets ugly…

    sprocket_ says:
    Monday, June 13, 2022 at 7:55 am
    The split in the NSW Liberal Party is becoming toxic; and the future looks grim with contributions like this today from Hard Right aligned minister David Elliot unloading on Moderate Matt Kean.

    Elliot had been courted by the Morrison Club to run for Parramatta, a seat for which the preselection was one of a dozen purloined by the Morrison/Hawke Junta. Showing some awareness of the prevailing breeze, Elliot declined the offer. And stayed with the Perottet Hard Right.

    So Hard/Conservative/Religious Right on one side, the Moderates on the other. And a desire for another cult of personality candidate like Morrison to emerge and upset the apple cart through naked ambition and bastardry.

    Not a great future to look forward to for the Liberal rank and file.

    Perhaps they can console themselves as the party disintegrates with outbursts like this one on 2GB this morning, where David Elliot accuses Matt Kean of treachery in undermining the Morrison campaign..

    The NSW Transport Minister has slammed his Treasurer over revelations he was undermining the Coalition’s election victory.

    David Elliott has told Ben Fordham: “Matt Kean’s behaviour is nothing short of treachery and will be repaid in kind”.

    “I’m disgusted.

    “It’s the sort of thing I have come to expect… from a certain former Liberal PM.”

    According to The Australian’s Sharri Markson, Matt Kean was encouraging journalists to ask tough questions to the Prime Minister about selecting Katherine Deves as the candidate for Warringah.

    In one exchange, he urged a journalist to “pap” Roads Minister Natalie Ward to get her opinion on the topic.

    Matt Kean denies he was briefing against his own Government.

    Ben said, “I think Dominic Perrottet is going to have to act here”.

    “People have had a gutful of Matt Kean.”

    https://www.2gb.com/nothing-short-of-treachery-transport-minister-slams-colleague-matt-kean/

  14. I haven’t seen a scale like this before bug1. While not an expert in measuring bigotry, I have developed a a couple of psychometric scales in my time and have been sitting on HREC boards on and off for about a decade, where I have come across more than a couple.

    You may want to have a chat with the Canadians.

    https://voxpoplabs.com/about/#1499


  15. BKsays:
    Monday, June 13, 2022 at 7:31 am
    bug1
    I also got that survey and found it a bit strange.

    Could it possible that the people, who prepared the questionnaire, prepared it before federal election and thought that LNP will win that election because of Stockholm syndrome.
    Hence, they might have thought that they were preparing data for LNP to modify their Religious Discrimination Bill.

  16. Love the idea of a Liberal leadership challenge in WA.

    “I’m voting for me.”
    “I’m voting for me.”
    “OK, let’s go to preferences….”

  17. Good morning bludgers, how can it not be with a Labor Government running the place. Thanks BK for the dawn patrol.

    Had to smile yesterday reading Marles is in dialogue with the Chinese defence minister and Albanese has been invited to France to visit with Macron, the Biloela family at home, Penny Wong smashing it as Foreign Minister and Billy boy taking a review of the NDIS as his No1 priority. Every day Labor are starting to heal wounded political relationships and healing our standing in the International community- what a mess SFM left behind in so many areas. We can hope for a better future under this Government. That’s all most are asking of our Government these days. No miracles, just a decent crack at a good life.

  18. HREC:

    Hood River Electric Cooperative?
    Human Research Ethics Committees?
    Houston Real Estate Council?
    Human Resources?


  19. C@tmommasays:
    Monday, June 13, 2022 at 7:44 am
    shellbell @ #NaN Monday, June 13th, 2022 – 7:10 am

    Stack of lawyers in the AO section.

    Pleased for Jack Rush QC. Robert McLlelland?

    Was that like a reward for McLlelland doing over the ALP?

    How did Robert McLlelland screwed ALP?
    Looks like the Queen’s Birthday 2022 Honours List is prepared before election.

  20. Matt Kean is the only thing keeping the NSW Coalition competitive going into next March’s state election. They’d definitely be out on their ear if it wasn’t for him. Though his clandestine moves to kill the Koala doesn’t impress me.

  21. Ven @ #NaN Monday, June 13th, 2022 – 8:20 am


    C@tmommasays:
    Monday, June 13, 2022 at 7:44 am
    shellbell @ #NaN Monday, June 13th, 2022 – 7:10 am

    Stack of lawyers in the AO section.

    Pleased for Jack Rush QC. Robert McLlelland?

    Was that like a reward for McLlelland doing over the ALP?

    How did Robert McLlelland screwed ALP?
    Looks like the Queen’s Birthday 2022 Honours List is prepared before election.

    I believe he testified against Labor in the TURC.

  22. Steve777 @ Monday, June 13, 2022 at 8:19 am
    “HREC:

    Hood River Electric Cooperative?
    Human Research Ethics Committees?
    Houston Real Estate Council?
    Human Resources?”

    Apologies. I would like to select door #2 please.

  23. Sandman,
    To your list I would add, bringing people back inside Services Australia to run the call centre, thus taking away billions from Serco and other private multinational conglomerates.


  24. sprocket_says:
    Monday, June 13, 2022 at 8:09 am
    From the other thread – the link below has a 5 minute audio segment from 2GB where the NSW Liberal bloodletting, spurred on by the Ben Fordham and Murdoch boosters, gets ugly…

    sprocket_ says:
    Monday, June 13, 2022 at 7:55 am
    The split in the NSW Liberal Party is becoming toxic; and the future looks grim with contributions like this today from Hard Right aligned minister David Elliot unloading on Moderate Matt Kean.

    Elliot had been courted by the Morrison Club to run for Parramatta, a seat for which the preselection was one of a dozen purloined by the Morrison/Hawke Junta. Showing some awareness of the prevailing breeze, Elliot declined the offer. And stayed with with the Perottet Hard Right.

    So Hard/Conservative/Religious Right on one side, the Moderates on the other. And a desire for another cult of personality candidate like Morrison to emerge and upset the apple cart through naked ambition and bastardry.

    Not a great future to look forward to for the Liberal rank and file.

    Perhaps they can console themselves as the party disintegrates with outbursts like this one on 2GB this morning, where David Elliot accuses Matt Kean of treachery in undermining the Morrison campaign..

    The NSW Transport Minister has slammed his Treasurer over revelations he was undermining the Coalition’s election victory.

    David Elliott has told Ben Fordham: “Matt Kean’s behaviour is nothing short of treachery and will be repaid in kind”.

    “I’m disgusted.

    “It’s the sort of thing I have come to expect… from a certain former Liberal PM.”

    According to The Australian’s Sharri Markson, Matt Kean was encouraging journalists to ask tough questions to the Prime Minister about selecting Katherine Deves as the candidate for Warringah.

    In one exchange, he urged a journalist to “pap” Roads Minister Natalie Ward to get her opinion on the topic.

    Matt Kean denies he was briefing against his own Government.

    Ben said, “I think Dominic Perrottet is going to have to act here”.

    “People have had a gutful of Matt Kean.”

    https://www.2gb.com/nothing-short-of-treachery-transport-minister-slams-colleague-matt-kean/

    One word “Nice”.

  25. Morning all. Thanks BK for the roundup. A fairly quiet day considering the significant number of successes Albo and colleagues are achieving.

    Like you and Bug, Xanthippe also got the vote compass follow up survey. She works in statistics and thought it nonsensical.

  26. Cat
    “ Officers (AO) in the Military Division

    David Peter COGHLAN
    For distinguished service in the field of Defence capability acquisition and sustainment as Head of Land Systems Division and Head Armoured Vehicle Division.”

    I see the tradition of honouring all ADF heads above a certain rank continues. Why not honour every medical chief or every uni professor too? Prejudice.

    This choice is particularly awkward because Coghlan headed the branch of the army that analysts are suggesting was over expanded during Australia’s Iraq and Afghanistan commitments and should have been shrunk years ago.

    This US paper analysed Australia’s defence spending in 2013. Even then it said we should have been cutting back on expensive armoured vehicles and putting more money into nuclear subs, long range missiles and aircraft. Instead we have failed to get the latter and are on track to waste $31 billion on the former.
    So much honourable service (to weapons manufacturers).
    https://csbaonline.org/uploads/documents/Gateway_to_IndoPacific1.pdf

  27. Soc,
    It’s why I suggested that that particular ‘honour’ must have been recommended by Dutton and Morrison. It just made no sense to me after the mistakes in that Division that have been made. Though your explanation that, even those who fail up are rewarded, makes sense.

  28. Boerwar @ #NaN Monday, June 13th, 2022 – 8:47 am

    Got a problem? No probs. Just lie:

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/coalition-compo-claim-not-true-marles/ar-AAYmCVZ?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=a969ad585ea546f9a3104242f3511628&fbclid=IwAR2RkI731nYzy8g-X4f3QHd6395MJVtJ8ZLdlwWMomMKIIiqLnyY-NJJAlA

    The Coalition got 3 days of media coverage on their terms out of it though, signifying how willing the media is to take a stance against the new federal government, even if it is based on a lie.

  29. So much expertise on defence procurement right here on PB, Labor really needs to tap into and make use of it.

  30. House price ‘crash’ watch:
    13 days into June, % change month to date, June qtr to date:

    Brisbane +0.4% +2.9%
    Adelaide +0.6% +4.4%
    Perth +0.3% +1.9%
    Sydney -0.5% -1.7%
    Melbourne -0.3% -0.9%

    Stephen Koukoulas

  31. A recession does seem on the cards – most likely next year.

    A lot of people will get burned by rising interest rates – how many people bought into the RBA no rate rises before 2024 rhetoric?

  32. I didn’t do vote compass this time around yet still got the follow up survey in my inbox. Binned it.

    C@t – Was it the Healthy Brain Initiative (now out of a Melbourne university)? I’ve been part of that for a number of years and I agree their surveys are a bit silly. The annual food survey (if I didn’t fill in the final “is there anything else you’d like to tell us?”) would look like I eat nothing … because I don’t eat carbs virtually at all and only certain proteins. The ‘mood’ questions are very repetitive.

    But I enjoy the quizzes!

  33. Cat

    Yes I agree this was a very Morrisonesque honours list. A reward for all those who unquestioningly followed the party line.

    Good to see lots of medicos honoured. From Xanthippe’s experience in the Adelaide W&C Hospital I still don’t think most people have any understanding of how many extra hours of work doctors and nurses did during the pandemic. Huge.

    Why we needed to honour 37 separate ADF members when the main event was the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan I do not understand. And why still pretend the National Party is a major force in Australian politics?

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