10.21pm. Most of the bugs in my election results facility have resolved now (though there’s still a few odd quirks that I’ll hopefully be able to iron out this evening), so if you have any sort of interest in the late counting, I suggest this is the place to follow it. Certainly it’s the best place to observe results at booth level – a lot of effort has been done to condense these into something manageable out of the needless thicket of detail published by the ECQ. And if you do find that of use, you might also care to tip some pennies into my tip jar, which takes the form of the “become a supporter” button at the top of the page.
10.06pm. The ABC is now projecting (but not calling) 51 seats for Labor, so it seems there may have been a dynamic where the late-reporting pre-polls leaned in their favour & though they may also done put them under a little more pressure from the Greens in McConnel and Cooper.
10.00pm. Antony Green relating that there has been a turn in Labor’s favour in both Townsville and Thuringowa, where the first especially looked doubtful for them through the night.
9.52pm. My live results facility is a lot less screwy now that I’ve turned booth-matching off (although there are still some clangers: Labor is assuredly not winning Hill and Scenic Rim, nor the LNP McConnel and Rockhampton).
9.44pm. The Greens have narrowed the gap against the LNP in the race for second in McConnel, which would give them a chance of overhauling Labor on their preferences if they bridged it. If this is part of a pre-poll trend, it could give them a shot at a third seat. That’s without factoring in Cooper, which is similarly placed and remains a wild card, though there too the Greens are third on the primary vote, and will presumably not do well on postals.
9.43pm. The ABC computer is now calling for Pumicestone for Labor, which means both the networks have Labor in majority government territory.
9.38pm. The Nine Network’s system is apparently more bullish for Labor than the ABC’s, projecting 50 seats.
9.30pm. Three LNP seats starting with C, Chatsworth, Clayfield and Currumbin, are now being rated as LNP retain by the ABC after earlier being rated in doubt.
9.23pm. Antony Green relates that the ECQ’s feed is lacking two-party preferred data for seats in the second half of the alphabet, so presumably the ABC is going off preference estimates for all those seats.
8.38pm. I note that high-profile Clive Palmer candidate Greg Downling is vying for North Queensland First for last past in a large field in Townsville. Palmer’s part is on 0.6% statewide.
8.35pm. I believe we’ve hit the lull in counting that characteristically sets in when the booths have wrapped up their count (easily done in the current climate) and we’re hanging on for the much larger early voting centres.
8.33pm. Labor would lose its majority with a net loss of two seats. They could lose two seats to the Greens — certainly South Brisbane and quite possibly Cooper (the Greens have fallen to third in McConnel). Conversely, they have gained Caloundra. There are a whole bunch of seats they could win off the LNP, but the only one that looks really strong for them is Pumicestone, where they have a strong lead although the count there is slow. However, they are in at least some danger of losing Redlands, Redcliffe, Thuringowa and Townsville, though my money would be on them in first three. What’s clear is that the LNP won’t have a majority — the question is whether enough of the close seats go against Labor to put them in a precarious minority position. But another small Labor majority is at least as likely.
8.18pm. It’s now lineball in Coomera, an LNP-held seat on the Gold Coast.
8.11pm. Counterbalancing the trouble Labor may be in in Redcliffe, the ABC computer suggests the possibility of a Labor boilover in Clayfield, held by former LNP leader Tim Nicholls. My feeling would be that both incumbents will hang on, but time will tell.
8.07pm. I haven’t mentioned Cooper yet, a potential fourth seat for the Greens. Basically it’s a three-way mash-up on the primary vote, and my guess would be that the Greens will win if it’s the LNP that drops out. My assumption was of a strong flow of LNP preferences to the Greens, given the LNP’s tactic of putting Labor last on how-to-votes, but it seems others aren’t so sure.
8.04pm. Steven Miles on the ABC hearing better information for Labor from Redcliffe, if I heard him correctly.
8.03pm. Chatsworth is close, as it usually is, but both my and Antony’s projections have it as a narrow LNP retain.
8.01pm. Antony notes that Labor may have a problem in the north Brisbane seat of Redcliffe, which would be a quirky result if so (causing me to be cautious).
8.00pm. I forgot about Burleigh in my Gold Coast review, where surfing legend Wayne Bartholemew may bed doing the trick for Labor, at least to the extent that it’s close.
7.57pm. The Sunshine Coast trend to Labor is relatively subdued in Glass House, but this being a very tight LNP-held seat, it’s certainly in play.
7.55pm. Down to the wire in Currumbin, but otherwise the Gold Coast doesn’t seem to bringing home any bacon for Labor. There is a big swing to the LNP swing in Bonney for some reason (partly sophomore surge effect).
7.53pm. My Sunshine Coast review missed Nicklin, a normally secure LNP seat (former independent Peter Wellington notwithstanding) where they are only slightly in front.
7.52pm. Also good early numbers for Labor in Hervey Bay, where few were anticipating they would win. This seat’s demographic skews very old.
7.49pm. The Sunshine Coast: Labor will win Caloundra and, early days though it may be, probably Pumicestone. However, that early scare for the LNP in Buderim has at least faded, although they’re not out of the woods. If Labor keeps its majority, it will have this region to thank. Note that I’m including links where my results pages are working fully.
7.45pm. Regional round-up part two: Townsville. The Townsville electorate is again down to the wire, with the ABC computer having the LNP with its nose in front. Labor apparently has its nose in front in both Thuringowa and Mundingburra. The LNP is presumably sweating on some regional late counting trend to deliver them a swag here.
7.44pm. The ABC computer finally calls South Brisbane for the Greens, and Labor are in big trouble in McConnel as well. So clearly two seats for the Greens, and it will be three unless the pre-poll and postal dynamic is different.
7.43pm. Antony makes the well-made point that a different dynamic on pre-polls and postals could, at this of all elections, completely flip things around.
7.42pm. I’ll start looking at it on a region-by-region basis, starting with Cairns. Labor has retained the Cairns electorate with a slight swing; there is now also a swing in Labor’s favour in Barron River, which they will hold. Mulgrave was never in doubt but there’s no swing. So a pretty good show in Cairns overall, despite the tourism slump, perhaps reflecting a general retiree effect.
7.40pm. It’s very tight in Buderim, a Sunshine Coast seat the LNP wouldn’t have counted on losing. I think the deal with my results page is that it’s working well for vanilla Labor-versus-LNP contests once two-party preferred results appear in the system. There’s a lot of screwiness on the entry page, which I only recommend for the links to the electorate results pages.
7.38pm. Also working is my page for Caloundra, where it looks like Labor are home: the ABC computer has it back to a Labor gain, compensating for a Labor loss in South Brisbane that the ABC computer is still being too conservative about. Other than that though everything looks remarkably status quo at this point, but obviously there are still a lot of seats that are too early or too close to call.
7.35pm. My results page for Currumbin, at least, is working well and it has an LNP win probability of 51%.
7.30pm. As Antony notes, a modest swing to Labor in the south-east and the other way round in the regions. As I speak, he has the first real numbers in from Pumicestone, a very tight LNP marginal on the cusp of Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast where the incumbent is retiring, and they’re very encouraging for Labor.
7.26pm. The ABC has the KAP ahead in Cook, but I’d very much doubt that — it will be based on preference estimates, and it would be hard to see them overcoming Labor’s 42.5% to 17.1% lead on primaries. The LNP are second, but the projection would have the KAP overtaking the LNP with the help of One Nation’s 7.0%.
7.24pm. There isn’t a single seat the ABC computer is recording as changing hands, though I suspect it’s being conservative in South Brisbane. Caloundra has been downgraded from Labor gain to Labor ahead.
7.20pm. The Cairns electorate is resisting the dangerous trend for Labor in north Queensland, perhaps reflecting its large population of retirees.
7.18pm. Conversely, so have the LNP in Bundaberg.
7.17pm. Labor has bounced back in Barron River after an early scare.
7.16pm. It does rather look like the Greens will win South Brisbane. Very early days in McConnel, but the tiny early booth that’s in there is also good for the Greens.
7.15pm. Labor is retaining its Brisbane marginals, though not with huge swings.
7.13pm. Currumbin looks likely to be closely watched throughout the evening, being a potential Gold Coast gain for Labor in which there’s currently nothing in it.
7.12pm. The ABC calling Mirani as One Nation retain, and Labor in Aspley, a loseable seat in inner northern Brisbane.
7.07pm. The ABC computer is calling Caloundra for Labor, which is huge if true. Another sign of the election going according to script, with grey voters causing Labor to go well in a few places that traditionally aren’t strong for them, but a challenge for Labor with the dynamic of One Nation voters in north and central Queensland moving to the LNP.
7.01pm. One Nation’s one incumbent, Stephen Andrew in Mirani, is bucking his party’s trend, maintaining a slight lead over the LNP on the primary vote and doing well enough that he should be returned on their preferences if it stays that way.
6.58pm. Where substantial results are in, things seem to be going according to script. In Mundingburra, One Nation is well done, the LNP have got more of the dividend than Labor, there’s a slight swing to the LNP on two-party, and overall it looks close in this marginal Labor-held Townsville seat. Antony Green is also pointing to a fairly solid but very early swing to the LNP in Barron River. I’m providing links where my results facility seems to be working.
6.54pm. My election results facility is bug city, but it seems to be doing its job in Bundaberg, an LNP-held margin where it’s looking tight, and Maiwar, where Greens incumbent Michael Berkman appears to be enjoying a handsome sophomore surge, which should raise Greens hopes for other inner-city seats.
6.51pm. My election results page has perked up. Bottom line is that it will work in a patchy, buggy sort of a way. The aggregated votes at the top of the page have 3273 votes to work with, and they point to a large transfer of votes from One Nation to the LNP, as anticipated.
6.17pm. The front page of my results facility doesn’t seem to be fully firing, which I think is because the mercurial ECQ feed only has headline numbers in it. But if you follow the seat links on the left-hand side, you will see results in seats where it says “0%” for the amount counted. As always, these are small booths from country seats.
6pm. Polls have closed. I have a very ambitious live results set-up here — let’s see how we go, but experience suggests it will be of more use in the late count than on the night. I’ll start promoting it more thoroughly if it seems to be working more-or-less okay.sto
The delicious part is Grace Grace and Jackie Trad both going down.
Great outcome for the Greens – they have well and truly arrived in Queensland State Politics.
It’s Time:
“the old Nationals are holding up the party in the rural”
Yes, we remember!
Tim Nicholls in trouble in Clayfield. The top shelf is calling…
sprockets gone quiet – waiting to see which way the wind blows…
What is it about the right of Qld politics and sports persons of so so ability, Carl Rackemann, Tim Mander and John Connolly.
Will prepoll and postals favour the LNP as much as it has in the past? I don’t think it will.
John Cee
I am waiting for Wednesday to do that. For tonight I am sticking with bottom shelf. It started when I saw the One Nation collapse 🙂
McConnel
Preference count
Labor Party
Grace Grace (MP)
Vote:59.3%
Liberal National
Pinky Singh
Vote:40.7%
Something wacky with Billbowe’s Burleigh prediction. PHON win?!!
Voice endeavour @ #89 Saturday, October 31st, 2020 – 8:48 pm
And Labor gets to choose who and when.
On the ABC panel, a bunch of middle aged men unable to understand why the Greens vote has increased when it has been a world wide trend in a time when young people especially are pressing for action on climate change..
(Compared to the NZ result the Greens increase is not actually all that much).
46 seats to Labor.
I can’t see the LNP managing to cobbler enough backbenchers together for them to form government. For example, I doubt the Greens are going to go for supporting the same group as One Nation.
So it is now just a question of ALP majority or minority government or backbench hari-kari (for example the Greens would be committing suicide to bring on another election).
Shellbell
Dishhead Dowling is standing in Townsville..
shellbell @ #101 Saturday, October 31st, 2020 – 8:55 pm
Because Labor snags the best ones? Liesl Tesch, Wayne Bartholomew, Justin Madden. Then there’s the guy we’ve been trying to get in forever, Steve Waugh. 🙂
LNP who on ABC is just delaying what is already been decided. All talking about prepolls.
How many LNP voters in South Brisbane are going to preference the Greens candidate ahead of sitting Labor Trad? What a dilemna for them.
Greens back into third in McConnel. Also third in Moggill (about 25%, both seats), and that’ll be close – ABC says LNP by 0.6%. If they manage to lose the one seat in Brisbane they kept at the Beattie landslides, there’ll be some seriously angry tories.
About the only votes the Fat Man’s Underwhelming Arsewipe Party appears to have received is from his family and a few sycophants.
Socrates @ #107 Saturday, October 31st, 2020 – 8:56 pm
Like this little lady in America:
Madeline Graham, 18, fed her ballot into the machine at the Sandy Spring, Md., polling place, completing her journey from climate protester to climate voter — becoming one of millions of her generation compelled by their deep worry about the planet to vote for the first time.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2020/10/30/young-voters-climate-change/
Whether majority or minority, LNP cannot win. They have 26 seats with 14 doubtful. Even if they win EVERY doubtful seat, plus Katter’s support, they cannot form government without the Greens as well. No deal with Katter would be palatable to the Greens. So they cannot form government. As Cat said, worst case Labor chooses who they form government with.
Its logical that Labor embraces government with the Greens.
Its a great development and a great result for the QLD Greens! Well done!
Looks like the last 2 Labor Premiers seats will now be represented by the Greens!
C@tmomma @ #119 Saturday, October 31st, 2020 – 8:01 pm
Ummm, she was too young to have voted previously. It will more interesting the olders who have not bothered to vote previously.
Has Clive won a seat yet?
Guardian:
News from Labor in Townsville is reaching the party HQ in Inala that Labor member Scott Stewart is ahead in counts in all nine booths so far in the very very (very) marginal seat of Townsville (0.4%). The LNP really, really wants to win there.
News from Labor in Townsville is reaching the party HQ in Inala that Labor member Scott Stewart is ahead in counts in all nine booths so far in the very very (very) marginal seat of Townsville (0.4%). The LNP really, really wants to win there.
My instinct tells me pre-polls would generally favour the left side of politics?
Socrates @ #87 Saturday, October 31st, 2020 – 8:41 pm
Law & “Business” faculties, mainly – those that matriculate.
Greens MP Michael Berkman is not social distancing.
Well, the ABC is giving Labor 45 seats with 15 in doubt.
Campbell Newman (@CampbellNewman)
Spare me the COVID-19 excuse for what’s happening tonight in Qld. The LNP primary vote was 36pc a year ago. We had a problem prior to the pandemic
October 31, 2020
Morrison campaigned big time in Queensland. He even had to delay National Cabinet because he was not in Canberra.
Make sure you pin election loser to him progressives
Well it’s another up yours to SmoCo!
What COVID-19 has done is cause a lot of seniors to vote against the ‘early openers’. This may show up in the Qld prepolls, as it has in other elections and US polling..
Greens MP Michael Berkman is dodgying the question about preferences from LNP.
“Dishhead Dowling is standing in Townsville”
Kevin Tamati says “Hi!”
It’s Time,
Buderim just flipped to labor on the ABC website.
20% counted in Bonney, and it’s swung 10% to LNP. People must like Sam O’Connor there.
Keppel looks fine for Labor. Big collapse for ON and the LNP haven’t picked up enough of it. Same deal in Maryborough.
Lockyer: 30% split between ON and the ex-ON indie, but it looks like Labor will come second here for the first time in a while.
PHON nicely down. 🙂 But FFS…people actually vote for Palmers mob of lowlife grifters??
One Nation are minus 6% on the last election.
A ringing endorsement…
Fair to say LNP can’t hope to form government without a 4 in front of their first preferences. Their first preferences are a disgrace.
Hope lvt can hold up bravely trolling on and on.
“Morrison campaigned big time in Queensland”
Morrison is now 0 for 4 in elections and by-elections. WA coming up and if they are serious, a by-election for the seat of Banks. Will the father of the nation be building a bird-cage or a spice rack tomorrow to take his mind off it or will he simply kick the first dog around the first back yard?
Channel 9 calls it for Labor (no doubt through gritted teeth): https://www.smh.com.au/politics/queensland/poll-call-queensland-votes-as-wild-weather-is-forecast-20201031-p56abo.html
Wayne Swan sticks it to Scott Morrison. 🙂
Roy Orbison says:
Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 9:14 pm
“Morrison campaigned big time in Queensland”
Morrison is now 0 for 4 in elections and by-elections. WA coming up and if they are serious, a by-election for the seat of Banks. Will the father of the nation be building a bird-cage or a spice rack tomorrow to take his mind off it or will he simply kick the first dog around the first back yard?
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Status quo ante favours the Great White Father !
“WA coming up and if they are serious, ”
Morrison’s support for Palmer in early border opening matters will not be forgotten over here by a lot of the oldies. 🙂
Lars,
Will the father of the nation be building a bird-cage or a spice rack tomorrow to take his mind off it or will he simply kick the first dog around the first back yard?
I lol’d, that’s funny.
Its Time
I think the age of that US environmental voter is Cat’s point. A new generation of young people is reaching voting age, and they are joining electoral rolls. 538 also commented on this. In USA this will be the first election since 1980 when baby-boomers are NOT the largest demographic. We will follow the same trend within a few years.
Wayne Swan on ABC now makes the good point that Scott Morrison has spent a huge amount of time in Qld for the election campaign (probably at Federal taxpayers expense 🙁 ) with nothing to show for it. Is the Scomo brand tarnished?
Labor’s retained government. Only question is if it’s majority or minority, and the smart money would be on majority at this point.
Windhover says:
Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 9:12 pm
Fair to say LNP can’t hope to form government without a 4 in front of their first preferences. Their first preferences are a disgrace.
Hope lvt can hold up bravely trolling on and on.
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Who cares windhover – Labor in minority is a great outcome for democracy in Old! We’ll have to see the pre-polls and postals but it certainly seems that way atm.
Let’s aim for realism here – if we’re claiming that this result is the fault of Morrison, then so would the NSW election and (surely) the federal election also?